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A88693 Suspension reviewed, stated, cleered and setled upon plain scripture-proof. Agreeable to the former and late constitutions of the Protestant Church of England and other reformed churches. Wherein (defending a private sheet occasionally written by the author upon this subject, against a publique pretended refutation of the same, by Mr W. in his book, entituled, Suspension discussed.) Many important points are handled; sundry whereof are shortly mentioned in the following page. Together with a discourse concering private baptisme, inserted in the epistle dedicatory. / By Samuel Langley, R.S. in the county palatine of Chester. Langley, Samuel, d. 1694. 1658 (1658) Wing L405; Thomason E1823_2; ESTC R209804 201,826 263

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for_o say_v he_o p._n 90._o we_o have_v ordinary_a case_n enough_o in_o be_v for_o the_o full_a exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n have_v we_o power_n from_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n to_o convent_n offender_n before_o we_o authoritative_o and_o to_o inflict_v punishment_n upon_o they_o after_o their_o legal_a conviction_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o their_o crime_n and_o shall_v not_o rather_o be_v a_o ludibrium_fw-la to_o bold_a offender_n than_o any_o way_n reform_v they_o to_o the_o former_a part_n whereof_o i_o answer_v do_v he_o never_o see_v the_o ordinance_n of_o lord_n and_o commons_o of_o march_n 29_o 1648._o entitle_v the_o form_n of_o church_n government_n to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n agree_v upon_o by_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o assemble_v in_o parliament_n after_o advice_n have_v with_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n be_v that_o but_o a_o toleration_n or_o be_v it_o ever_o repeal_v but_o some_o minister_n 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sublimi_fw-la ac_fw-la divinâ_fw-la potestate_fw-la nec_fw-la christiani_n ultrâ_fw-la aut_fw-la durare_fw-la aut_fw-la esse_fw-la jam_fw-la possumus_fw-la si_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la ventum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la perditorum_fw-la minas_fw-la atque_fw-la infidias_fw-la pertimescamus_fw-la and_o after_o non_fw-la id_fw-la circo_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la relinquenda_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la solvenda_fw-la censura_fw-la quoniam_fw-la convitijs_fw-la infestamu●_n aut_fw-la terroribus_fw-la quatimur_fw-la etc._n etc._n §._o 5._o to_o his_o four_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v most_o of_o it_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v late_o mention_v whereby_o it_o appear_v if_o minister_n be_v not_o the_o great_a hinderer_n of_o church_n order_n they_o may_v see_v that_o presbyterated_a church_n have_v power_n from_o the_o state_n authoritative_o to_o send_v for_o offender_n yea_o to_o give_v oath_n if_o need_v require_v but_o as_o long_o as_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o compel_v they_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n herein_o by_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o maintenance_n for_o neglect_v hereof_o as_o well_o as_o for_o total_a neglect_n of_o preach_v they_o can_v see_v sufficient_a authority_n for_o their_o act_n herein_o that_o question_n mr._n w._n here_o propound_v whether_o parochial_a suspension_n with_o classical_a power_n in_o be_v by_o toleration_n civil_a be_v a_o universal_a remedy_n against_o all_o the_o evil_n that_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastical_a cognizance_n lanswer_v negative_o who_o say_v it_o be_v but_o do_v mr._n w._n thence_o evince_v the_o consequence_n of_o my_o fore-recited_a argument_n to_o be_v invalid_a good_a reader_n respice_fw-la titulum_fw-la look_v to_o what_o mr_n w._n be_v answer_v to_o all_o along_o and_o then_o judge_v whether_o it_o be_v handsome_a he_o of_o many_o shall_v have_v tell_v the_o world_n how_o he_o fear_v my_o brain_n be_v almost_o mar_v as_o he_o do_v p._n 89._o i_o be_o behold_v to_o he_o for_o his_o care_n of_o i_o but_o i_o can_v desire_v he_o shall_v be_v for_n