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A69802 The Lancashire Levite rebuk'd, or, A farther vindication of the dissenters from popery, superstition, ignorance and knavery unjustly charged on them by Mr. Zachary Taylor in his two books about the Surey demoniak in a letter to himself. Carrington, John, d. 1701. 1698 (1698) Wing C642A; ESTC R173402 30,143 34

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in its Institution But if that Term will not yet please I told you we would yet part Friends or it shall be your Fault for I love not to contend de Lana Caprina Therefore if you will call it a Humane Appointment and then Is it lawful for any body to command things in the Worship of God of the same nature c. Obj. 1. And now Dissenters say the Cross is such a Humane Appointment and how do you answer this Sol. I might have found the Cross in Baptism to be no Humane Sacrament if I would have consulted Can. 30. p. 14. say you Repl. Sir I am not so prejudiced against the C. of E. but I will very willingly hear what she can say for her self yea I would justify her as far as I am able And if you knew me I think you would not be so harsh in your Censures of me Therefore that I might not be partial or unjust I did consult her Rubrick and Offices and Canons particularly Can. 30. and this you will find anon Obj. 2. Their second Argument was They think it not lawful some of them to kneel in receiving the Bread and Wine in the Lord's Supper Sol. To this you say My Friend is bewildred c. and you ask me a very important Question Do the Papists receive Wine in that Sacrament Now for this time rather than fall out with you I 'll answer you The Papists do receive Wine in that Sacrament unless the Priests be no Papists Just such a Learned Question once was asked in as good earnest as yours Pray' Sir will you tell me one thing What 's that Is the Pope a Papist Am I now bewildred Having told you of Dissenters Offence at Kneeling I thought good to conceal their Argument not that they are contemptible but that I durst not Vouch for them and so eased you of the trouble of Answering them Yet desired modestly your help to answer one thing I had heard some of them object which I could not answer my self Obj. The thing was this Some of them think it hard that for doing or offering to do as the Apostles did at the Sacrament of the Lord●s Supper they should be peremptorily denied that Ordinance When by the same Reason if the Apostles were on Earth and offered to do as they did even in the Presence and with the Approbation of their Master they must be denied it Now really Mr. T. you are very unkind here for you give me no help to answer them but twit me with my Ignorance when I had confessed it in this Case and had told you I was not able to answer them Was this ingenuous When in earnest I would have thanked you according to promise But what say you to this Scruple of Dissenters Sol. You cry A sad Story if it be true and is this all No here 's more When-ever you can prove that the Apostles used the Posture that the Presbyterians now do I will engage our Church shall indulge you and your Brethren in the capricious Liberty of their pretended Consciences Really a great and kind Undertaking For my self you know I need not the Indulgence but I should be glad of it for honest Dissenters sake Yet I much question the Performance For if you should give it to any that Kneel not the Penalty is Suspension by Can. 27. And I doubt you would scarce run such a Hazard for the capricious Scruplers Repl. Yet I fancy the Presbyterians will say They do use the same Posture for they Sit Which was their Table-Gesture You will say I know the Apostles Posture was Discumbency or a kind of Leaning and Lolling in one another's Bosom But again they will say Whatever the Manner was whether cross-leg'd or with their Feet under them or Leaning sideway on their Elbow still it was Sitting however Yet still my Scruple remains For if Christ's Apostles were now on Earth and would receive it in the same Gesture they did receive it from their Master and not Kneel they must be denied it by the C. of E. on pain of Suspension For let Men be never so pious holy and good they must Kneel or else be left in the same Predicament with the most prophane Drunkards Swearers c. Yea much worse which I almost tremble to write for these if they will but Kneel cannot be denied nor are they that ever I heard of Obj. 3. Dissenters Third Argument The imposing and tying of Men to a particular Form of Worship without Authority from God from which none shall vary is an Invasion of GOD's Prerogative and an Impeaching of his Wisdom as if Men knew better than himself what Form or manner of Service were fittest for him And what say you to this Sol. 1. You tell me of a Parliament c. Repl. But I think Dissenters here meddle not with Parliaments but with the Ch. of Engl. in their Canons and Book of Common Prayers and other Rites and Ceremonies c. Sol. 2. You say I am a pleasant Spark indeed and then ask me another grave Question Tell me is Reading GOD's Word Repeating his own Commandments Professing our Christian Faith Addressing our selves to him in his beloved Son 's own Name making Laws for him to obey Repl. I answer this is not making Laws for him no obey But why did you ask this Question I could also ask you Questions but why should we trouble our selves and others with asking and answering impertinent Questions This looks like a Blind to escape the Force of Dissenters Arguments unobserved For they will say 1. That it's Terms of Communion which God hath not commanded in his Word and it 's the Ch. of Engl.'s Form of Worship which they mean which is imposed which God must have or none and which all must use or be punished This is making Laws for God to obey 2. For Reading of God's Word and Praying in his own Son's Name they do constantly so Worship God because God himself hath enjoined it But what 's this to their Argument I think I may promise in behalf of Dissenters If the C. of E. will impose no more on them than these necessary things they will chearfully obey and thankfully comply 3. But if God must not have his Worship in Baptism unless the Minister do also Sign with the Sign of the Cross and God shall not have his Worship in the Lord's Supper unless Men will receive the Bread and Wine Kneeling or if God shall not have his Worship in Prayer unless the Minister say over so many Pater-nosters and observe so many Ups and Downs so many Cringes and different Postures in one and the same Service Standing up at the same Scripture read at one time not at another Saying Aloud at one time not at another Then Dissenters think this an Imposing upon God making Laws for him to obey and that with a Penalty for he must have this or none And 'till you have fairly answer'd this I shall not think Dissenters so