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A13156	An ansvvere to a certaine libel supplicatorie, or rather diffamatory and also to certaine calumnious articles, and interrogatories, both printed and scattered in secret corners, to the slaunder of the ecclesiasticall state, and put forth vnder the name and title of a petition directed to her Maiestie: vvherein not onely the friuolous discourse of the petitioner is refuted, but also the accusation against the disciplinarians his clyents iustified, and the slaunderous cauils at the present gouernement disciphred by Mathew Sutcliffe.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.	1592 (1592)	STC 23450; ESTC S117875	163,829	254

vs with their consistoriall presumptiō and yet did we not deale against their churches For that I wrote against the presbyterie I did it in respect that the same was obtruded to our church by a certaine vnlearned bold Italian that I wrote in Latine the cause was the Italians and Bezaes dealing for their presbyterie in Latine and also to let others vnderstād that our cause is such as we are able well to defend against Beza and all consistorials whatsoeuer and therefore seeing we meane not to obtrude our gouernement to them and so professe in our bookes let thē keepe their consistorie to thēselues and make much of it that it fal not to the ground for it is in very weake case Bezaes simple discourse doth yeeld it no comfort If any doe come forth to reply I do protest it is he that maketh the stirre and not I. and therefore for cōmon ease it were best for al to keepe silence but if they meane to prate of the glory of the consistory which our platformers esteeme as an idoll they must expect an answere and let not Beza thinke that his fond disputes against vs in his late three halfe penie pamphlet shall passe for oracles To returne to the libeller I answere that neither is it true that we handle the matter doubtfully for we are all resolued in our positiōs against thē nor that they hold their opinions resolutely for neither concerning the institution partes authoritie nor office of their consistorie doe any two of them agree neither doth it seeme probable that euer they wil agree they are at such contention among themselues for neither doe they knowe what they would haue nor wherefore Secondly I say that this argument is most simple and mishapen for suppose that two or three should handle the cause of the Church simplie it were no reason for the ignorance and simple dealing of two or three that the Chuch should be ouerturned and that new lawes and lordings shoulde come in place yet this is his wise conclusion because all doe not agree in all pointes that the matter must be called in question and bishops be displaced that certaine coate cardes in short ierkins may come in place to rule all either by their diuine inspiration or else according as Th. Cartw. the oracle of discipline shall determine which reason if it were admitted then howsoeuer we reteine the present gouernement yet shall wee for euer be discharged of the consistorie the patrons whereof contrarie one another most absurdly in infinit places write most irresolutely and strangely Lastly to bring the ecclesiastical state into question He alledgeth first that our lawes expect a further reformation that such as haue written against papistes puritans haue found imperfectiōs in our gouernemēt Which if he meane in the frame of our discipline or in respect that we haue bishops or want consistories he is abused they neither expect such a reformatiō nor auow any such thing by a certaine statute of K. Henry 8 power was giuen to 32 persons to gather into one body such lawes ecclesiastical as were nether repugnant to the lawes of the realme nor prerogatiue royall That they had as the petitioner saith authoritie to correct good lawes or to make new lawes is the first vntrueth The second vn trueth is That D. Cranmer other learned men did collecte the lawes into one booke for the booke that came forth with the title of Correctio legum Angliae was gathered not by D. Cranmer but by D. Haddon and that very simply without iudgemēt insomuch as al men of iudgemēt disliked it afterward himselfe also was ashamed of it nay contrary to the authoritie giuen him by statute he tooke vpon him not to gather lawes together but to gather a packe of new fancies together and to make new lawes coontrarie to the Ecclesiasticall lawes of the realme yea contrarie to equitie and reason as I shall iustifie if any will challenge me for it The lawes of nursing of children and marriages will verifie all that I say yea and his owne testimonie giuen of it Last of all the lawe whereby this collection of lawes was authorised is now repealed and not necessarie For albeit all doe not yet some knowe what is lawe but suppose ecclesiastical lawes that are in force should begathered together doeth it therefore followe that ecclesiasticall lawes must be all changed howsoeuer it is let not the aldermen bragge of these lawes for therein the authoritie of Bishops is confirmed churchaldermen not so much as mentioned they must therefore looke in some other place for in this booke their Consistorial conceites are not to be found In the booke of Common prayer there is a Commination prescribed to be vsed vntil an order of discipline practised in the primitiue Church should be restored But what maketh that for the establishment of the consistoriall discipline which was neither in the primitie Church nor in the cogitation of the authors of that booke the meaning of the booke is onely that the commination there mentioned shoulde be vsed vntil such time as in the time of Lent offenders might be brought to humble themselues as they did in the primitiue Church and that more fauour might be giuen to the execution of ecclesiastical lawes which is that discipline which they desire these felowes withstand and therefore hereafter I thinke wil not call for discipline for if the same were once executed then would not euery contentious person degorge his malice against lawe nor libellers and scismatickes be suffered to declaime against the state nor euery vnlearned mate be suffered to preach false doctrine and reuell at all antiquitie Neither doeth it followe because in the ordination of Mininisters it is saide take thou authoritie to preach the worde of God that euery Minister is apointed a preacher and that none are to be appointed Ministers but such as can preach which is that they desire And this libeller affirmeth for the exception which doth abbridge the lawe is 1 This practise is condemned by the law inciuile est ff de legebus cautelously and malitiously left out wherein he sheweth that his cause cannot stand but by forging and forcing the wordes are Take thou authoritie to preach where thou shalt be so appointed These fellowes disdaine appointmēt would runne before they be sent but vnlesse many had more learning and discretion it were better that some of those that take on them to preach were set to reade and such as runne so fast were made to sit still In Flaunders according to the rules of this discipline they would needes at the first haue euery one to preach but when they sawe the great inconuenience that came of it they put them to reade Caluins homilies on Iob. but suppose that in the point of discipline of Lent or in the number and qualities of preachers we haue not that we desire doeth it therefore followe that the Ecclesiasticall state

AN ANSWERE TO A CERTAINE LIBEL SVPPLICATORIE OR RATHER Diffamatory and also to certaine Calumnious Articles and Interrogatories both printed and scattered in secret corners to the slaunder of the Ecclesiasticall state and put forth vnder the name and title of a Petition directed to her Maiestie Wherein not onely the friuolous discourse of the Petitioner is refuted but also the accusation against the DISCIPLINARIANS his clyents iustified and the slaunderous cauils at the present gouernement disciphred by Mathew Sutcliffe These dreamers defile the flesh and despise gouernment and speake euill of them that are in authoritie Iude vers 8. Etsi loqui nesciant tacere tamen non possunt Hierom. Neither can they well speake nor wisely holde their peace 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They pretend and seeke the reward of Phinees zeale but doe the workes of Zimri Imprinted at London by the DEPVTIES of CHRISTOPHER BARKER Printer to the QVEENES most excellent MAIESTIE 1592 TO THE HONORABLE SIR EDMVND ANDERSON LORD CHIEFE IVSTICE OF HER MAIESTIES COVRT OF COMMON PLEAS ALthough my good Lord I cannot without griefe remember the daungerous and hurtfull effectes of the late stirres which certaine factious persons haue made both in the Church and common wealth about the new consistoriall gouernement yet seing diseases cannot be wel cured vnlesse they be made knowen nor well knowen vnlesse the patient declare them I could not refraine from vttering them being one of that Church and state that hath so long suffered them yea though not I onely but all others whom they concerne should of importune shamefastnes conceale them yet would they not being so great be concealed It is well knowen what scandale thereof hath growen to religion diuers wicked persons are thereby confirmed in their atheisme weake christians are either driuen backe to poperie or discouraged from comming forward to embrace religion the Seminaries abroad are replenished with many towardly schollers seeking that abroad which they dispaire to finde at home sectes euil opinions growe vp lyke noysome weedes in diuers corners those that should and would represse them are by domesticall stirres of secret enemies thuarted hindered The Papists take thereby incouragement and hope for innouation 1 De schism lib. 3. quo bello Catholici indies plures constantiorésque in fide sunt facti saith he speaking of his false Catholikes and Romaine peruerse taith Sanders in his booke as he calleth it of schisme doth bragge That through these contentions the Romanistes dayly multiplied among vs and grewe more resolute they also from these domesticall braules made by some against our Church doe drawe an argument to harden mens hartes against religion and the authors of religion both 2 In lib de cansis cur catholisis c. Vlenbergue and Rosse in their seditious treatises against vs doe much insist vpon that poynt and it is a common obiection made by the enemie yea a matter not lightly feared of frendes For learning hath lost almost all reputation while these vnlearned and vnwise confistorians declame against learning and seeke no further diuinitie then Caluins and Bezaes and Iunius his glosses and commentaries and without ground of learning and artes as it were with vnwashen feete enter into the Lordes sanctuarie while the fathers and auncient writers of the Church are despised and euery man taketh vpon him to interprete scriptures after his owne foolish conceite and forceth them to serue their owne changeable humors they runne into diuers daungerous opinions I reporte me to the strange doctrine of 2 Theologia sacra Fenner and his Maister T.C. in their new booke of Consistoriall diuinitie of the lawe gospell sacraments and ecclesiasticall gouernement there is scarce any poynt deliuered without error but those are faultes of a lighter marke in respect of poyntes concerning the diuine essence and the Trinitie whereof they talke strangely In the 3 Theologia sacra lib. 1. diuine nature they confound essence and person and deuide the persons of the Trinitie into two members and make the sonne together with the holy ghost to proceede from the father where all religion saith that he is borne of the father which is the characteristicall difference of that person further they affirme that the holy ghost proceedeth from the father 4 Ibidem without mentioning the sonne they teach also that hatred as it is attributed to God is the essence of God And while they would commend their fond preaching and disgrace the scriptures Iohn Penrie 5 In his supplicat one of the great disciplinarian prophets eyther like a dolt or if he defend it a blasphemous heretike Maketh Christ to be the word preached therein destroying Christes eternall essence and diuinitie in 6 The booke was offered to the parliament by common consent of this faction that it might throughout England be recented their Communion booke they haue taken out two articles of the Creede namely that of Christes buriall and Christes descending into hell and added a newe Article viz. of their new fantasticall discipline a compendious and short way to erect their new kingdome for articles of our Creede are rather to be beleeued then to be disputed of In their Creede also they make Christ to be borne of the virgine according to the flesh diuiding Christ into two parsons with Nestorius lastly for here I meane not to speake of all they forget A petition in their braue paraphrase of the Lords prayer which matters are very shamefull and yet not to be denyed for their owne worthles bookes conuince them While they haue refused the olde order of preaching and followed the stile of Bezaes vaine and verball sermons whereof I and many others that haue heard and read them are witnesses their expositions be eyther verball or fantasticall or both their prayers for the most part are disordered fancies yea some times malicious inuectiues full rather of wordes then deuotion conceiued without studie and vttered without iudgement which kinde of 1 Matth. 6.7 verball babling Christ condemneth as heathenish To leaue matters of the Church we see how schooles are decayed and how both learning and rewardes of learning are dayly diminished and all this while these vnworthie fellowes first thinke that all learning is conteined in Caluins institutions and Bezaes opuscula and secondly measure euery mans merites by their owne foote and allow no more to others then they suppose they deserue themselues taking away all hope of honor or rewarde by making the ignorant iudge of the merite of learning and talking of certaine strange positions of fortie pound pensions as if fortie or a hundred pounds yeerely were the vttermost reward that learning coulde deserue and euery other sort of men were worthie of most high rewardes and preferment the number of schollers decreasing in both the Vniuersities doth declare how much men are discouraged and examples of this sacrilegious discipline otherwhere receiued doe shewe what further wracke is to be feared hereafter The gouernours both of