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A03797 Certaine greevances, vvell vvorthy the serious consideration of the right honorable and high Court of Parliament Set forth by way of dialogue, or conference betweene a countrey gentleman, and a minister of Gods word; for the satisfying of those that doe clamour, and maliciously revile them that labour to have the errors of the Booke of common prayer reformed. By Levves Hevves, minister of Gods Word. Hughes, Lewes, fl. 1620. 1640 (1640) STC 13917.5; ESTC R212825 20,742 44

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CERTAINE GREEVANCES VVELL VVORTHY THE SERIOVS CONSIDERATION OF THE RIGHT HONORABLE AND HIGH COVRT OF PARLIAMENT Set forth by way of Dialogue or Conference betweene a Countrey Gentleman and a Minister of Gods word for the satisfying of those that doe clamour and maliciously revile them that labour to have the errors of the Booke of Common Prayer reformed By LEVVES HEVVES Minister of Gods Word Printed in the Yeare 1640. A DIALOGVE OR CONFERENCE BETWEENE A COVNTREY Gentleman and a Minister of Gods word about the Booke of Common Prayer Gentleman I Am very glad that I have met with you and did long to speake with you that you might satisfie me in some things concerning the booke of Common Prayer therefore I pray you tell me truely as I hope you will is there any thing in it contrary to Gods word Minister Yes verily it is full of Popish errours and doth appoint horrible blasphemies and lying fables to bee read to the people in stead of Gods holy word and hath caused the Church of England to groane under the abominations of the Church of Rome even from the infancie of it in Queene Elizabeths time untill this houre and now there is great hope that a time of refreshing and deliverance is at hand through the blessing of God on this Parliament Gent. I never heard any blasphemie or lying fable read in the Church Min. I thinke so because it may bee that you were never in the Church on those dayes wherein they are appointed to be read Gent. Upon what dayes are they appointed to be read Min. On the fourth of October in the forenoone it appointeth an horrible blasphemie to bee read for the first lesson out of the 12 of Tobie and the ninth verse where it is written that Almes doe save from death and purge away all sinne which is a maine ground of Popery and an horrible blasphemy against Christ and his blood that clenseth us from all sinne 1 Iohn 1.7 Also in the 15. verse of that chapter it is written that there are seven Angels that doe present our prayers which is an other horrible blasphemie against Christ who only doth present our prayers Rev. 8.3 4. Gent. These are horrible blasphemies indeede I pray you let me heare some of the fables that are in it Min. On the fourth of October in the afternoone it appointeth a lying fable to bee read out of the 11. of Tobie where it is written that Tobie going to the doore to meete his Son Tobias comming from Rages did stumble and that his sonne ran unto him and laid the gall of a fish to his eyes and that the whitenesse did scale off and hee restored to his sight On the 30. of September another lying fable is appointed to be read of an Angell that was sent to scale the whitenesse from his eyes and to give Sara the daughter of Raguel to his sonne Tobias in marriage and to bind Asmodeus an evill spirit that was in love with her and had killed seven men that had beene married unto her On the first of October an other lying fable is appointed to be read how Tobie being about to send his sonne Tobias to Rages in Media for a wife did bid him go and look for a man to goe with him that he went found an Angell brought him to his Father who promised to give the Angell wages and agreed with him what hee should have by the day and sent him with his sonne and his dog On the third of October another lying fable is appointed to bee read how Tobias being come from Rages did call the Angell unto him bad him take a servant and two Camells and goe to Rages for money and that the Angell went and carried writings which he delivered to Gabael who brought baggs of money sealed up which hee delivered to the Angell Gent. O horrible how have the Bishops deluded King Edward the sixt Queene Elizabeth King Iames and our gratious King Charles and the whole estate and made them beleeve that there was nothing in the Service Book contrary to Gods word God Almighty deliver us from them now that you have shewed me the blasphemies and lying fables shew also what are the Popish errours that are in it and first tell me whether the Service book doth command that all both Ministers and people shall bow their bodies when the name Jesus is read Min. The Bishops onely without any warrant from God but from the Pope Gent. I have heard that the Name Iesus was a common name among the Jewes was it so Min. Yes Syrach of Ierusalem had a son whose name was Iesus Eccles. 50.23 also Ioshua the son of Nun was called Iesus Acts 7.57 and one of Saint Pauls fellow labourers was called Iesus Col. 4.11 Gent. Why doe the Bishops make an Idoll of the name Iesus by causing men to bow their bodies and to put off their hat when it is read Min. Because they mistake the word of God where it is written that at the name of Iesus every knee shall bow both of things in heaven of things on earth and of things under the earth Phil. 2.10 Gent. What is the name of Jesus Min. As by the name of our gratious King Charles is meant not the name Charles which is a common name but the authority and power that God hath given him over all people within his owne dominions as when men are prest to the Kings service they are prest in the Kings name that is by vertue of authority and power from the King even so as by the name of King Charles is meant his authority and power c. so by the name of Jesus is meant the authority and power that God hath given him over all things in heaven and in earth and under the earth Gent. What is meant by things in heaven Min. By things in Heaven are meant the holy Angels and soules of the faithfull that have no knees Gent. What is meant by things on earth Min. By things on earth are meant all mankinde living on earth whether they be Elect or Reprobate Gent. What is meant by things under the earth Min. By things under the earth are meant the devills and damned soules in hell Gent. What is meant by bowing of the knee Min. By bowing of the knee is meant subjection Isa. 45.23 and not bowing of the body when the name Iesus is read as Pope Anastatius did command An. 404. Gent. What is meant by bowing of every knee of things in heaven of things on earth and of things under the earth Min. Thereby is meant that all the holy Angels and Saints in heaven and all mankind on earth and all the Devils and damned soules in hell shall submit themselves to Christ and acknowledge him to be Lord of all and to have power over all to save and to condemne whom he will Gent. What doe you thinke of them that kneele when they receive the Communion bread Min. The Papists say
day the twelfth Chapter from the seventh verse to the thirteenth is appointed to be read for an Epistle it being no Epistle but a prophecie of a battell fought in heaven betweene Michaell and his Angells and the Dragon and his Angels and of the victory that Michaell and his Angels had over the Dragon and his Angels and of the casting of the Dragon and his Angels out of Heaven Gent. What is meant by Heaven Min. By heaven is meant not the highest heaven but the Church of Christ militant here on earth Gent. What is meant by Michaell and his Angels Min. By Michaell and his Angells are meant Christ and his true followers especially the faithfull Preachers of the Gospell Gent. What is meant by the Dragon and his Angels Min. By the Dragon and his Angels are meant the Devill and the Heathen persecuting Emperours and the Popes Gent. What is meant by the battell Min. By the battell is meant persecutions raised by the Heathen persecuting Emperours and the Popes and popish Princes against the Christian Religion and the professors thereof Gent. What is meant by the victory that Michael and his Angells had over the Dragon and his Angels Min. By the victory is meant the victories that Christ gave to Constantine the Christian Emperour and that he hath doth and daily will give to Christian Princes fighting his battell against Antichrist and his partakers and to the faithfull Preachers against false Teachers Gent. What is meant by the casting of the Dragon and his Angells out of heaven Min. Thereby is meant the utter confusion and overthrow of Antichrist by the spirit of Christs mouth that is by the preaching of the Gospell so as he shall be deprived of all dignitie and shall have no place in heaven that is in the Church of God to domineere any more as thankes be to God the Archbishop of Canterbury is deprived of all dignity and shall never have place againe in heaven I meane in the Church of God to domineere as he hath done Gent. Why is this Prophecy appointed to be read on Michaelmas day Min. It is appointed to be read on Michaelmasse day of purpose to pervert the meaning of our Saviour Christ by misse-applying to Michaell and all Angels in the highest Heaven the victory that Christ hath and daily doth and will every day more and more give to true Christians that doe follow him fighting his battell against Antichrist Gent. I doe heare many finde fault with new orders that the Bishops have made I pray you tell me what those orders are Min. They have made an order that the Communion Table shall be turned to an Altar as Pope Sixtus did to usher in Popery about the yeare of our Lord 264. and that Churchwardens shall present their Minister if he doe not admonish the people to resort to him and open their griefe of conscience that they may receive the benefit of absolution as appeareth by Bishop Wren his Booke of Articles Chap. 4. Art 22. and that no prayer shall be made in the Church for sick persons but according to the order prescribed in the Service Booke Bishop Wren did binde the Churchwardens of his Diocesse by an Oath to present their Minister if he did use any other forme of prayer Gent. What forme of prayer doth the service Booke prescribe for sick persons Min. It prescribeth no forme to be used in the Church Gent. What then Min. The Minister must goe home to their houses and salute them as the Masse-Priest doth saying Peace be in this house and to all that dwell in it and when he is come where the sicke person is he must kneele and reade three or foure lines of the Letany and Lord have mercy upon us and the Lords Prayer till he comes to the last Petition and hath read halfe of it Lead us not into temptation the other halfe but deliver us from evill he must leave as the Masse Priest doth for the Clark to reade and then as soone as the Clark hath read it the Minister must as the Masse-Priest doth skip over the conclusion For thine is the Kingdome power and glory for ever and in stead thereof he and the Clark must read five versicles of a line or halfe a line long and a short prayer and an exhortation and the Creed and then absolve the sick person from all his sinnes in the Name of the Father Sonne and holy Ghost and begins the absolution with an untruth saying that Christ hath left power to his Church to absolve all sinners that doe truly repent and beleeve in him The truth is that Christ hath not given power to his Church to forgive sinnes and that there is no Church that doth take upon it to forgive sinnes but the Synagogue of Sathan the Church of Rome and so many of the Lord Bishops and of the Clergie of England as are Popish whose errour is grounded upon their misse-taking of the words of our Saviour Christ to Peter I will give thee the keyes of the kingdome of heaven and whatsoever thou shalt binde on earth shall be bound in heaven whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven Gent. What is meant by the kingdome of heaven Min. By the kingdome of heaven is meant the Church of Christ on earth where Christ doth rule and raigne by his word and holy Spirit in the hearts and consciences of the Elect and is commonly called the kingdome of grace Gent. What is meant by the keyes of the kingdome Min. By the keyes of the kingdome are meant the grace and power that Christ gave to Peter and the rest of the Apostles and their successors to preach the Gospell Gent. It is written Luke 11.52 that Christ did reprove the Interpreters of the Law because they did take away the key of knowledge from the people what is meant by the key of knowledge Min. By the key of knowledge is meant the opening and shewing the true sense and meaning of the Scriptures whereby the people are brought to the knowledge of God and of him whom he hath sent Jesus Christ Gent. It is written Mat. 23.13 that the Scribes and Pharisees did shut up the kingdome of heaven against men how did they lock and shut it up Min. They did lock and shut the people out of heaven by their unfaithfulnesse and idlenesse in opening and shewing the true sense and meaning of the Scriptures and by their false expounding and interpreting of the Scriptures Gent. Christ said to Peter Whatsoever thou shalt binde on earth shall be bound in heaven What is meant by loosing and binding on earth and in heaven Min. By loosing and binding on earth and in heaven is meant the authoritie and power that Christ gave to Peter and to the rest of the Apostles and to every faithfull Preacher not to forgive sinnes but to declare and pronounce forgivenesse of sinnes to all that by their preaching shall be brought to true faith and repentance and that as verily