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A33981 The vindication of liturgies, lately published by Dr. Falkner, proved no vindication of the lawfulness, usefulness, and antiquity of set-forms of publick ministerial prayer to be generally used by, or imposed on all ministers, and consequently an answer to a book, intituled, A reasonable account why some pious nonconformists judge it sinful, for them to perform their ministerial acts in by the prescribed forms of others : wherein with an answer to what Dr. Falkner hath said in the book aforesaid, the original principles are discovered, from whence the different apprehensions of men in this point arise / by the author of the Reasonable account, and Supplement to it. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1681 (1681) Wing C5345; ESTC R37651 143,061 307

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formam_fw-la precandi_fw-la proponit_fw-la ac_fw-la nominatim_fw-la inquit_fw-la luc._n 11._o cum_fw-la oratis_fw-la dicite_fw-la verba_fw-la et_fw-la recitationem_fw-la certam_fw-la prescribit_fw-la ut_fw-la antea_fw-la praescripserat_fw-la johannes_n teneamus_fw-la ergo_fw-la et_fw-la recitemus_fw-la formam_fw-la divino_fw-la consilio_fw-la traditam_fw-la in_o english_a but_o because_o in_o recitation_n attention_n be_v difficult_a therefore_o lazy_a person_n decline_v recitation_n but_o the_o church_n always_o propose_v they_o and_o command_v they_o to_o be_v use_v both_o in_o public_a and_o private_a the_o psalm_n be_v therefore_o compose_v with_o the_o great_a wisdom_n and_o christ_n himself_o propose_v a_o form_n of_o prayer_n and_o particular_o say_v lu._n 11._o when_o you_o pray_v say_v he_o both_o prescribe_v word_n and_o a_o certain_a recital_n as_o before_o john_n have_v do_v let_v we_o hold_v and_o recite_v that_o form_n which_o our_o lord_n have_v give_v we_o then_o he_o 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prayer_n may_v be_v proper_o call_v the_o gift_n of_o vocal_a prayer_n i_o affirm_v it_o the_o vindicator_n deny_v it_o chap._n 1._o 5_o quest_n whether_o in_o act_n of_o external_a institute_v worship_n or_o any_o part_n of_o it_o any_o thing_n can_v be_v call_v order_n or_o decency_n or_o be_v say_v to_o be_v pious_a religious_a devout_a and_o for_o edification_n antecedaneous_o or_o without_o respect_n to_o the_o divine_a will_n reveal_v in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o in_o holy_a writ_n i_o deny_v it_o the_o vindicator_n affirm_v it_o chap._n 4_o etc._n etc._n 6_o quest_n whether_o consider_v the_o infirmity_n of_o our_o nature_n a_o person_n in_o prayer_n can_v keep_v his_o thought_n as_o close_v to_o and_o have_v his_o affection_n as_o warm_v in_o the_o duty_n read_v a_o form_n as_o in_o speak_v from_o his_o own_o conception_n i_o deny_v it_o the_o vindicator_n affirm_v pag._n 75._o 7_o quest_n whether_o where_o god_n have_v leave_v minister_n or_o people_n a_o liberty_n to_o 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