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A61696 An assertion for true and Christian church-policie wherein certain politike objections made against the planting of pastours and elders in every congregation are sufficiently answered : and wherein also sundry projects are set down ... Stoughton, William, 1632-1701. 1642 (1642) Wing S5760; ESTC R34624 184,166 198

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