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A09106 A quiet and sober reckoning vvith M. Thomas Morton somewhat set in choler by his aduersary P.R. concerning certaine imputations of wilfull falsities obiected to the said T.M. in a treatise of P.R. intituled Of mitigation, some part wherof he hath lately attempted to answere in a large preamble to a more ample reioynder promised by him. But heere in the meane space the said imputations are iustified, and confirmed, & with much increase of new vntruthes on his part returned vpon him againe: so as finally the reconing being made, the verdict of the Angell, interpreted by Daniel, is verified of him. There is also adioyned a peece of a reckoning with Syr Edward Cooke, now L. Chief Iustice of the Co[m]mon Pleas, about a nihil dicit, & some other points vttered by him in two late preambles, to his sixt and seauenth partes of Reports. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1609 (1609) STC 19412; ESTC S114160 496,646 773

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and_o other_o place_n do_v hold_v the_o same_o now_o and_o it_o be_v the_o peculiar_a doctrine_n of_o berengarius_fw-la and_o his_o adherent_n to_o deny_v the_o real_a presence_n ergo_fw-la the_o protestant_n of_o england_n at_o this_o day_n can_v be_v charge_v with_o that_o doctrine_n and_o do_v not_o every_o body_n see_v the_o vanity_n of_o this_o inference_n wherefore_o his_o conclusion_n be_v to_o be_v note_v i_o let_v pass_v say_v he_o a_o doze●_n such_o crimination_n cast_v by_o he_o upon_o protestant_n which_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o his_o own_o doctor_n may_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v lewd_a and_o intolerable_a slander_n whereto_o i_o answer_v that_o hitherto_o he_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o show_v any_o one_o we_o shall_v see_v what_o he_o will_v say_v afterward_o but_o in_o the_o mean_a space_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o modest_a reader_n to_o judge_v where_o the_o lewdness_n do_v remain_v if_o any_o be_v 66._o and_o to_o this_o consideration_n i_o add_v another_o that_o whereas_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n do_v charge_n calvin_n and_o caluinist_n with_o two_o principal_a error_n of_o the_o pelagian_n the_o one_o that_o which_o now_o have_v be_v handle_v of_o deny_v original_a sin_n in_o child_n and_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a pelagian_n and_o the_o second_o of_o deny_v the_o difference_n of_o venial_a and_o mortal_a sin_n and_o hold_v that_o by_o every_o least_o sin_n we_o lose_v our_o justice_n and_o consequent_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a bellarmine_n cite_v for_o the_o same_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n hierome_n who_o ascribe_v that_o for_o heresy_n unto_o the_o pelagian_n and_o whereas_o in_o like_a manner_n he_o prove_v the_o same_o heresy_n not_o only_o to_o be_v hold_v by_o luther_n and_o melancthon_n but_o also_o by_o calvin_n in_o diverse_a part_n of_o his_o work_n as_o lib._n 2._o instit._fw-la cap._n 8._o §_o 85._o lib._n 3._o cap._n 4._o §_o 28._o etc._n etc._n m._n morton_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o clear_a calvin_n in_o the_o former_a charge_n ●●out_v original_a sin_n though_o so_o unlucke_o as_o you_o ●●ue_v hear_v say_v never_o a_o word_n against_o this_o second_o ●●out_v the_o distinction_n of_o venial_a and_o mortal_a sin_n pelagianisme_n ●herby_o be_v evident_a in_o all_o probability_n that_o he_o admit●●ed_v that_o for_o true_a and_o consequent_o yield_v secret_o ●●at_a caluinist_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o pelagian_n in_o this_o he●●sy_n though_o he_o storm_v sharp_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v against_o bellarmine_n for_o charge_v calvin_n with_o any_o point_n 〈◊〉_d pelagianisme_n at_o all_o and_o this_o fraud_n or_o frailty_n he_o con●itteth_v common_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o heresy_n ●●iected_v deny_v the_o one_o weak_o and_o by_o his_o silence_n ●●anting_v the_o other_o as_o now_o by_o experience_n you_o shall_v 〈◊〉_d the_o second_o injurious_a ●●i●ction_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n for_o false_a imputation_n of_o the_o novatian-heresy_n §._o viii_o from_o the_o fourteen_o heresy_n wherein_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n show_v the_o protestant_n to_o participate_v ●ith_o the_o pelagian_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n morton_n starve_v back_o to_o the_o six_o 63._o of_o participation_n with_o the_o no●●tians_n in_o these_o word_n he_o that_o be_v bellarmine_n make_v protestant_n guilty_a say_v he_o of_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novation_n in_o take_v from_o the_o church_n all_o power_n of_o reconciliate_a man_n un●●_n god_n when_o as_o his_o own_o joan._n author_n do_v note_n that_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n be_v this_o videlicet_fw-la to_o deny_v ●ny_a man_n that_o shall_v sin_v after_o baptism_n all_o hope_n of_o remission_n 〈◊〉_d sin_n although_o he_o shall_v repent_v yea_o and_o also_o bellar●ine_n himself_o in_o behalf_n of_o protestant_n confess_v ●lse_o where_o that_o they_o require_v repentance_n and_o faith_n in_o christians_n that_o they_o may_v be_v justify_v and_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n nor_o this_o only_a but_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o we_o say_v he_o and_o protestant_n about_o repentance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o conversion_n unto_o god_n igitur_fw-la wi●h_a detestation_n of_o sin_n or_o as_o it_o consist_v in_o outward_a sign_n of_o sorrow_n weep_v confession_n and_o outward_a chasticements●_n yea_o and_o almost_o all_o o●_n they_o allow_v a_o outward_a rite_n of_o absolution_n but_o the_o only_a controversy_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o pennance_n be_v proper_o a_o sacrament_n ●he_v contradiction_n be_v this_o to_o impute_v unto_o protestant_n an_o heresy_n which_o take_v away_o all_o manner_n o●_n repentance_n &_o hope_n of_o remission_n for_o sin_n past_a &_o yet_o to_o acknowledge_v in_o they_o a_o contrary_a orthodoxal_a truth_n which_o be_v to_o pro●es●e_v a_o necessity_n of_o repentance_n &_o reconciliation_n &_o remission_n of_o ●●nnes_n thus_o far_o he_o 68_o and_o if_o we_o stand_v attent_a in_o this_o place_n we_o shall_v see_v no_o less_o fraudulent_a deal_n then_o in_o the_o former_a if_o not_o more_o to_o make_v appearance_n of_o contrariety_n &_o difference_n between_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n &_o other_o catholic_n author_n morton_n about_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n which_o though_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v yet_o do_v it_o not_o infer_v as_o every_o man_n may_v see_v the_o principal_a conclusion_n o●_n the_o question_n that_o there_o be_v wilful_a malice_n but_o all_o be_v full_a of_o fraud_n as_o you_o will_v perceive_v and_o the_o reason_n be_v not_o so_o much_o i_o suppose_v for_o that_o he_o delight_v himself_o in_o lie_v wilful_o as_o before_o have_v be_v touch_v as_o the_o necessity_n of_o his_o cause_n which_o drive_v he_o to_o use_v the_o help_n of_o these_o shift_n or_o else_o to_o say_v nothing_o and_o this_o be_o i_o force_v often_o to_o note_v to_o the_o reader_n for_o that_o it_o be_v light_o a_o perpetual_a observation_n in_o he_o 69._o his_o dri●t_n then_o be_v if_o you_o mark_v it_o well_o to_o argue_v cardinal_n bellamine_n of_o falsity_n in_o that_o he_o affirm_v the_o protestant_n of_o our_o day_n to_o join_v with_o the_o old_a heretic_n the_o novatian_n haeresis_fw-la in_o take_v from_o the_o church_n all_o power_n of_o reconcile_a man_n unto_o god_n for_o those_o be_v bellarmine_n word_n though_o curtal_o recite_v by_o m._n morton_n out_o of_o his_o latin_a text_n as_o present_o you_o shall_v see_v and_o to_o contradict_v the_o cardinal_n in_o this_o he_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n that_o say_v that_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o ●●uatians_n be_v to_o deny_v any_o man_n who_o shall_v sin_v aft●r_a baptism_n 〈◊〉_d hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n although_o he_o shall_v repent_v antonianum_fw-la but_o ●ow_o these_o two_o be_v neither_o contradictory_n nor_o con●●ary_a if_o they_o be_v well_o consider_v for_o that_o the_o novation_n be_v hold_v to_o teach_v both_o these_o point_n lapsi_fw-la first_o &_o principal_o that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n leave_v in_o the_o church_n ●●to_fw-mi priests_z to_o reconcile_v and_o remit_v sin_n to_o such_o as_o ●●ll_v after_o baptism_n especial_o into_o grievous_a sin_n 〈◊〉_d testify_v s._n cyprian_n in_o a_o special_a epistle_n against_o no●●tianus_n and_o s._n ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr poenitentia_fw-la and_o uther_n and_o this_o first_o part_n of_o their_o error_n be_v contra●●ues_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la against_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n or_o power_n ●●_o priest_n to_o remit_v sin_n and_o herein_o all_o author_n do_v ●●ree_a but_o the_o second_o part_n of_o their_o error_n go_v fur●●er_o as_o some_o do_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n 〈◊〉_d testify_v 1._o suarez_n though_o alij_fw-la other_o be_v of_o different_a opinion_n which_o be_v to_o deny_v furthermore_o besides_o ●●e_z sacrament_n all_o virtue_n of_o penance_n whatsoever_o whe●●er_o private_a or_o sacramental_a especial_o in_o great_a sin●es_n as_o by_o the_o word_n of_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n here_o recite_v ●ay_v seem_v to_o appear_v ●0_n of_o these_o two_o error_n then_o the_o first_o and_o not_o ●●e_z second_o be_v ascribe_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o the_o protestant_n ●o_o wit_n that_o they_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o penance_n as_o 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o sacrament_n that_o be_v to_o say_v as_o it_o contain_v not_o ●nly_o a_o private_a detestation_n of_o sin_n in_o the_o sinner_n but_o ●●so_o the_o absolution_n or_o remission_n thereof_o by_o the_o priest_n 〈◊〉_d the_o public_a minister_n of_o the_o church_n the_o other_o ●●rour_n of_o deny_v all_o use_n of_o private_a repentance_n ey●●er_o inward_o or_o outward_o by_o sorrow_n sigh_n tear_n ●nd_v the_o like_a be_v not_o ascribe_v to_o protestant's_n by_o bellar●ine_n so_o as_o for_o m._n morton_n to_o bring_v in_o the_o one_o as_o contradictory_n to_o the_o other_o that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n say_v that_o the_o novatian_n do_v deny_v all_o power_n of_o penance_n therefore_o bellarmine_n say_v
not_o true_o that_o they_o deny_v the_o sacramental_a use_n thereof_o or_o for_o so_o much_o as_o protestant_n do_v not_o concur_v with_o the_o nova●ians_n in_o the_o one_o they_o do_v not_o in_o the_o other_o be_v a_o most_o absurd_a kind_n of_o reason_v call_v by_o logician_n à_fw-fr dispara●i●_n fo●_n that_o both_o may_v be_v true_a and_o one_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o for_o it_o be_v most_o true_a which_o bellarmin_n say_v that_o novatianorun_n error_n praecipuus_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o principal_a error_n of_o the_o novatian_n which_o word_n principal_a import_v that_o they_o have_v other_o error_n beside_o be_v crafty_o cut_v o●_n by_o m._n mort._n be_v that_o there_o be_v not_o power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o recon●le_a man_n to_o god_n but_o only_o by_o baptism_n which_o last_o word_n also_o bu●_n only_o by_o baptism_n be_v by_o m._n mort._n and_o by_o the_o same_o be_v shift_v ou●_n of_o the_o text_n for_o that_o they_o have_v relation_n to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o who_o it_o appertain_v by_o public_a &_o ordinary_a office_n to_o baptize_v and_o in_o this_o the_o protestant_n be_v accuse_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o concur●●_n with_o they_o in_o denial_n of_o penance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n 71._o and_o together_o with_o this_o it_o may_v be_v true_a that_o beside_o this_o praecipuus_fw-la error_n contradiction_n the_o principal_a error_n the_o novatian_n some_o or_o all_o deny_v the_o fruit_n of_o all_o kind_n of_o private_a and_o particular_a penance_n as_o sorrow_n tear_n punishment_n of_o the_o body_n and_o th●_n like_a wherein_o diverse_a protestant_n do_v not_o agree_v with_o they_o nor_o yet_o be_v accuse_v thereof_o whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o all_o this_o counterfeit_a contradiction_n which_o m._n morton_n have_v so_o much_o labour_v to_o establish_v here_o between_o bellarmine_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o castro_n vega_n &_o maldona●e_v on_o the_o other_o come_v to_o be_v right_o nothing_o at_o all_o for_o that_o bellarmine_n speak_v express_o of_o penance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n and_o in_o that_o sense_n only_o say_v that_o the_o protestant_n deny_v it_o together_o with_o the_o novatian_n as_o they_o do_v also_o the_o use_n of_o chrism_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n which_o be_v a_o other_o error_n of_o they_o object_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o protestant_n as_o much_o as_o the_o forme_a but_o whole_o dissemble_v by_o m._n morton_n the_o other_o three_o author_n as_o they_o do_v not_o exclude_v but_o rather_o include_v the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n yet_o do_v they_o m●ke_v ●ention_n of_o the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o novatian_a error_n ●●at_o seem_v to_o deny_v all_o penance_n in_o general_a whe●●er_o sacramental_a or_o not_o sacramental_a and_o of_o this_o ●●e_v not_o protestant_n accuse_v by_o bellarmine_n 6._o but_o expre●●y_v rather_o exempt_v by_o the_o word_n which_o here_o m._n ●orton_n set_v down_o of_o he_o so_o as_o for_o he_o to_o play_v ●●on_o his_o own_o voluntary_a equivocation_n and_o mistake_v of_o the_o word_n pennance_n &_o novatian_a heresy_n about_o the_o ●●me_n be_v toto_fw-la gross_a a_o illusion_n wherefore_o if_o you_o ●●ease_v let_v we_o brief_o see_v how_o many_o false_a trick_n he_o ●●eth_v in_o this_o place_n ●2_n the_o first_o of_o all_o may_v be_v that_o whereas_o cardinal_n ●●llarmine_fw-la to_o prove_v that_o our_o modern_a protestant_n do_v symbolise_v and_o agree_v with_o the_o old_a novatian_a heresye_n corruption_n allege_v two_o particular_a instance_n the_o one_o in_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o remit_v sin_n by_o ●●e_z sacrament_n of_o penance_n the_o other_o in_o deny_v the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o holy_a chrism_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n ●_o morton_n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o the_o second_o repli_v only_o to_o the_o first_o by_o a_o equivocation_n as_o you_o have_v ●●ard_v and_o yet_o if_o the_o second_o only_o be_v true_a bellarmine_n 〈◊〉_d justify_v in_o note_v the_o protestant_n of_o novatianisme_n ●nd_v therefore_o to_o deny_v the_o one_o &_o dissemble_v the_o other_o ●ust_z needs_o proceed_v of_o wit_v fraud_n grant_v that_o which_o be_v chief_o in_o controversy_n to_o wit_n that_o protestant's_n do_v hold_v in_o somewhat_o novatianisme_n ●3_n the_o second_o fraud_n be_v for_o that_o in_o recite_v cardinal_n bellarmine_n charge_n against_o protestant_n he_o cut●eth_v from_o the_o latin_a sentence_n of_o bellarmine_n be_v very_o small_a &_o short_a in_o itself_o both_o the_o beginning_n &_o end_n to_o wit_n praecipuus_fw-la error_n &_o post_fw-la baptismum_fw-la as_o you_o have_v hear_v and_o that_o for_o the_o cause_n which_o now_o i_o have_v declare_v 74._o three_o he_o do_v bring_v in_o guylful_o the_o foresay_a testimony_n of_o castro_n vega_n &_o maldonate_fw-it as_o contrary_a to_o bellarmine_n whereas_o they_o speak_v of_o a_o other_o thing_n to_o wit_n of_o penance_n in_o another_o sense_n &_o besides_o this_o do_v all_o express_o set_v down_o the_o two_o error_n o●_n the_o novatian_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o do_v deny_v as_o wel●_n the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n as_o also_o the_o private_a use_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v a_o particular_a virtue_n and_o that_o the_o protes●an●●_n of_o our_o day_n do_v concur_v with_o they_o in_o the_o fi●st●_fw-la tho_o not_o in_o the_o second_o and_o that_o he_o can_v not_o bu●_n evident_o see_v and_o know_v this_o and_o so_o do_v write_v it_o against_o his_o conscience_n to_o deceyve_v the_o reader_n 75._o four_o when_o m._n morton_n do_v allege_v b●llarmine_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la justis_fw-la cap._n 6._o to_o confess_v that_o protestant_n do_v require_v repentance_n in_o christian_n that_o they_o may_v be_v justify_v he_o well_o know_v that_o this_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o he_o have_v say_v before_o in_o his_o accusation_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr notis_n ecclesiae_fw-la cap._n 9_o that_o protestant_n do_v join_v with_o the_o novatians_n in_o deny_v all_o 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