page_n 84._o they_o among_o we_o which_o be_v unbaptise_v do_v sin_n grienous_o if_o they_o do_v not_o present_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o they_o which_o be_v once_o baptize_v must_v not_o be_v baptize_v again_o chap._n 19_o page_n 156._o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v of_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n receive_v true_a baptism_n etc._n etc._n chap_n 7._o page_n 79._o and_o chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o 89._o and_o chap._n 20._o page_n 156._o 157._o the_o false_a profession_n of_o christ_n in_o popery_n do_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o true_a christ_n be_v not_o in_o popish_a baptism_n cap._n 23._o pa._n 174._o whether_o infant_n ought_v rather_o to_o be_v keep_v unbaptise_v then_o to_o be_v present_v to_o popish_a baptism_n chap._n 23._o page_n 180._o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n may_v be_v baptize_v in_o a_o reform_a church_n if_o some_o of_o the_o religion_n do_v present_v they_o to_o baptism_n &_o do_v undertake_v the_o godly_a education_n of_o they_o cha_n 17._o pag._n 150._o there_o have_v be_v &_o may_v be_v true_a baptism_n out_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n 21._o page_n 158._o though_o true_a baptism_n be_v among_o the_o donatist_n out_n of_o the_o church_n august_n do_v not_o give_v leave_n to_o any_o of_o the_o church_n to_o present_v their_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v there_o cap._n 21._o pa._n 159._o they_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a supper_n which_o be_v administer_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o 89._o 95._o 98._o none_o unbaptise_v may_v receive_v the_o holy_a supper_n chap._n 8._o page_n 90._o 91._o 92._o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o administer_v the_o holy_a supper_n in_o a_o private_a house_n if_o some_o caution_n be_v observe_v chap._n 15._o page_n 141._o 142._o every_o legal_a uncleanness_n be_v not_o join_v with_o sin_n chap._n 9_o page_n 113._o the_o regenerate_a can_v fulfil_v the_o law_n of_o god_n cha_n 26._o pa._n 199_o a_o table_n of_o divers_a gross_a error_n and_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n contain_v in_o m._n penryes_n treatise_n etc._n etc._n master_n penry_n say_v that_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v neither_o prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n for_o so_o there_o can_v be_v no_o magistrate_n out_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o any_o in_o the_o church_n but_o such_o as_o be_v prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v impious_a to_o think_v nor_o contain_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o magistracy_n nor_o yet_o separate_v from_o his_o outward_a call_n for_o the_o very_a outward_a calling_n be_v it_o that_o give_v life_n unto_o the_o magistracy_n though_o the_o person_n sustein_v it_o want_v gift_n to_o discharge_v the_o same_o the_o reason_n hereof_o be_v evident_a because_o the_o magistracy_n be_v a_o human_a constitution_n as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v 1._o pet._n 2.13_o be_v appropriate_v unto_o his_o possession_n upon_o whosoever_o man_n bestow_v the_o same_o if_o he_o be_v capable_a to_o 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magistrate_n within_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o garnish_v with_o the_o above_o name_v gift_n therefore_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n my_o answer_n be_v i_o confess_v that_o absurd_a magistrate_n have_v be_v and_o be_v many_o time_n advance_v in_o the_o church_n i_o grant_v they_o shall_v not_o either_o by_o the_o corruption_n or_o error_n of_o the_o electour_n but_o i_o deny_v your_o argument_n my_o reason_n be_v it_o be_v great_a wickedness_n to_o think_v because_o gross_a electour_n prefer_v unfit_a man_n and_o so_o fail_v in_o their_o duty_n that_o almighty_a god_n have_v fail_v in_o prescribe_v what_o kind_n of_o man_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v his_o lieutenant_n m._n penry_n add_v that_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o magistracy_n i_o dissent_v from_o he_o in_o this_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o birth_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o 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to_o no_o other_o purpose_n then_o to_o edify_v by_o read_v be_v not_o wholesome_a doctrine_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 99_o this_o be_v a_o blasphemous_a absurdity_n m._n penryes_n reason_n for_o it_o be_v most_o absurd_a and_o childish_a i_o refer_v you_o to_o my_o answer_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 100_o 101._o and_o to_o a_o proposition_n which_o i_o have_v handle_v chap._n 4._o pag._n 62._o etc._n etc._n m._n penry_n write_v that_o it_o be_v false_a to_o say_v that_o the_o recital_n of_o the_o sum_n of_o christ_n sermon_n that_o be_v the_o word_n of_o institution_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o edify_a word_n he_o say_v it_o mainteyn_v charm_v chap._n 8._o pag._n 88_o 89._o this_o be_v a_o blasphemous_a absurdity_n if_o every_o part_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n do_v edify_v i_o trust_v the_o sum_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n sermon_n ought_v to_o have_v singular_a allowance_n if_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v singular_a allowance_n it_o may_v not_o be_v indict_v and_o arraign_v for_o maintenance_n of_o charm_a m._n penry_n say_v that_o the_o people_n can_v sanctify_v a_o sabbath_n without_o a_o sermon_n his_o word_n be_v these_o they_o be_v no_o minister_n who_o flock_n by_o their_o ministry_n can_v not_o sanctify_v the_o sabbath_n our_o reader_n be_v such_o etc._n etc._n in_o his_o addition_n pag._n 60._o m._n penry_n account_v the_o public_a read_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o public_a prayer_n no_o part_n of_o the_o sanctification_n of_o the_o sabbath_n if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o sabbath_n be_v not_o so_o well_o sanctify_v without_o as_o with_o a_o godly_a sermon_n i_o will_v have_v agree_v unto_o he_o m._n penry_n make_v the_o person_n to_o give_v credit_n to_o the_o holy_a word_n his_o word_n be_v these_o the_o word_n of_o god_n utter_v be_v not_o a_o
call_n at_o all_o first_o luther_n which_o have_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n have_v no_o external_a call_n at_o all_o second_o in_o your_o judgement_n either_o no_o baptism_n be_v deliver_v by_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n or_o baptism_n if_o any_o be_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v administer_v by_o private_a man_n for_o they_o which_o have_v no_o call_n at_o all_o be_v private_a man_n i_o need_v not_o drive_v you_o to_o absurd_a consequent_n you_o cast_v yourself_o headlong_o into_o they_o as_o into_o a_o dangerous_a quavemire_n your_o treatise_n wherein_o you_o have_v sow_v gross_a error_n thick_a and_o threefold_a be_v witness_n enough_o of_o this_o be_v not_o your_o disciple_n most_o unhappy_a which_o depend_v on_o you_o as_o on_o another_o pope_n you_o ask_v whether_o there_o be_v a_o ministry_n out_o of_o the_o church_n what_o my_o judgement_n be_v appear_v hereafter_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o deny_v not_o that_o there_o be_v true_a baptism_n therefore_o consequent_o a_o ministry_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n which_o you_o say_v be_v no_o church_n caiphas_n priesthood_n have_v both_o search_v and_o find_v you_o out_o it_o bewray_v your_o gross_a ignorance_n chap._n 8._o they_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a supper_n which_o be_v deliver_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n by_o unpreach_v minister_n i._o penry_n you_o know_v m._n some_o what_o i_o mean_v by_o a_o unpreach_a minister_n namely_o every_o one_o learned_a or_o unlearned_a that_o can_v show_v himself_o by_o the_o good_a trial_n of_o his_o gift_n to_o have_v that_o fitness_n to_o reach_v whereof_o we_o read_v 2._o tim._n 2._o 1._o tim._n 3._o which_o ability_n the_o lord_n do_v not_o ordinary_o bestow_v upon_o any_o in_o these_o our_o day_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o art_n especial_o the_o two_o handmaid_n of_o all_o learning_n rhetoric_n and_o logic_n and_o the_o two_o original_a tongue_n wherein_o 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baptize_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n i._o penry_n the_o rest_n of_o your_o book_n be_v now_o to_o be_v examine_v your_o conclusion_n pag._n 22._o that_o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n be_v right_o baptize_v as_o touch_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n i_o do_v not_o gainsay_v your_o reason_n be_v weak_a for_o how_o can_v we_o prove_v your_o conclusion_n if_o man_n shall_v deny_v popish_a baptism_n to_o be_v true_a baptism_n as_o i_o do_v not_o you_o know_v and_o he_o shall_v do_v i_o great_a injury_n which_o will_v lay_v that_o to_o my_o charge_n be_v it_o sufficient_a for_o we_o to_o say_v they_o be_v catabaptist_n which_o deny_v popish_a baptism_n how_o can_v this_o be_v prove_v and_o this_o shall_v not_o prove_v the_o matter_n doubt_v of_o r._n some_o do_v you_o answer_v of_o this_o fashion_n this_o be_v as_o far_o off_o as_o york_n from_o london_n the_o sum_n of_o your_o answer_n be_v that_o my_o reason_n be_v weak_a &_o that_o you_o deny_v not_o my_o 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england_n receive_v no_o sacrament_n many_o gross_a absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o very_o many_o be_v unbaptise_v and_o if_o they_o be_v unbaptise_v they_o sin_v grievous_o in_o not_o present_v themselves_o to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n i._o penry_n shall_v we_o say_v that_o they_o sin_n in_o not_o present_v themselves_o to_o be_v baptize_v to_o who_o shall_v they_o present_v themselves_o who_o will_v baptize_v they_o r._n some_o what_o mean_a scholar_n in_o either_o of_o the_o university_n yea_o what_o russet_a coat_n in_o the_o country_n will_v shape_v such_o a_o answer_n in_o stead_n of_o answer_v my_o reason_n you_o ask_v i_o two_o question_n i_o must_v be_v content_a to_o answer_v there_o be_v no_o remedy_n your_o first_o question_n be_v shall_v we_o say_v that_o they_o sin_n in_o not_o present_v themselves_o to_o be_v baptize_v my_o answer_n be_v they_o do_v sin_n no_o learned_a and_o godly_a man_n doubt_n of_o it_o my_o reason_n be_v first_o baptism_n be_v externus_fw-la character_n that_o be_v the_o outward_a mark_n and_o badge_n of_o a_o christian_n so_o write_v that_o famous_a man_n m._n fox_n cap._n 14._o in_o apocal._n second_o the_o contempt_n of_o circumcision_n be_v grievous_o punish_v gen._n 17._o yea_o the_o angel_n will_v have_v kill_v moses_n because_o his_o son_n be_v not_o circumcise_v exod._n 4._o three_o they_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o have_v excellent_a grace_n present_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n which_o baptism_n before_o they_o have_v not_o so_o do_v many_o in_o jerusalem_n after_o peter_n sermon_n act._n 2._o many_o in_o samaria_n after_o philip_n sermon_n act._n 8._o many_o in_o corinth_n after_o paul_n sermon_n act._n 18._o your_o second_o question_n be_v to_o who_o shall_v they_o present_v themselves_o who_o will_v baptize_v they_o my_o answer_n be_v after_o a_o public_a profession_n of_o their_o faith_n in_o the_o christian_n assembly_n they_o must_v present_v themselves_o to_o be_v baptize_v of_o the_o minister_n so_o do_v cornelius_n in_o caesarea_n act._n 10._o lydia_n in_o philippi_n acts._n 16._o crispus_n and_o gaius_n in_o corinth_n act._n 18.1_o cor._n 1._o and_o a_o jew_n of_o late_a year_n in_o london_n i_o speak_v now_o of_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o be_v unbaptise_v i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o gather_v of_o this_o that_o i_o shut_v our_o infant_n from_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o baptism_n if_o you_o shall_v you_o deserve_v rather_o to_o be_v censure_v by_o the_o magistrate_n then_o to_o be_v confute_v by_o argument_n r._n some_o if_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v by_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n and_o by_o unpreach_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n receive_v no_o sacrament_n a_o great_a number_n have_v sin_v gross_o in_o partake_v the_o holy_a supper_n my_o reason_n be_v none_o uncircumcised_a may_v eat_v the_o passeover_n exo._n 12.48_o therefore_o none_o unbaptise_v may_v receive_v the_o holy_a supper_n i._o penry_n admit_v 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will_v he_o be_v as_o clear_a ofpride_n and_o contempt_n of_o writer_n caluine_n beza_n etc._n etc._n man_n of_o excellent_a learning_n be_v cast_v off_o by_o he_o even_o in_o those_o weighty_a cause_n wherein_o they_o shake_v hand_n with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o do_v not_o belie_v he_o i_o charge_v he_o just_o it_o shall_v appear_v so_o by_o god_n grace_n in_o this_o treatise_n the_o question_n between_o he_o and_o i_o be_v not_o whether_o ignorant_a man_n may_v either_o enter_v into_o or_o continue_v in_o the_o holy_a ministry_n for_o my_o resolution_n be_v negative_a that_o be_v that_o they_o ought_v not_o but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o such_o as_o be_v and_o be_v baptize_v by_o popish_a priest_n and_o ignorant_a minister_n have_v and_o do_v receive_v a_o sacrament_n and_o whether_o the_o godly_a communicant_a be_v pollute_v by_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n at_o the_o hand_n of_o unpreach_v minister_n the_o most_o famous_a man_n and_o church_n be_v peremptory_a for_o i_o and_o against_o he_o yea_o m._n penry_n himself_o join_v with_o i_o in_o many_o part_n of_o his_o treatise_n in_o some_o other_o part_n i_o confess_v he_o sing_v a_o other_o song_n absurd_a for_o matter_n and_o out_o of_o tune_n for_o manner_n this_o inconstancy_n of_o he_o proceed_v from_o a_o vain_a humour_n which_o as_o a_o whirlwind_n do_v strange_o carry_v and_o overcarrie_a he_o it_o be_v not_o in_o my_o hand_n to_o heal_v he_o if_o it_o be_v i_o will_v with_o all_o my_o heart_n i_o will_v pray_v unto_o god_n to_o cure_v he_o cathedram_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la habet_fw-la qui_fw-la corda_fw-la docet_fw-la all_o that_o i_o desire_v of_o the_o godly_a reader_n be_v that_o he_o will_v read_v my_o treatise_n before_o he_o give_v sentence_n otherwise_o i_o may_v just_o charge_v he_o to_o bring_v not_o iudicium_fw-la but_o praejudicium_fw-la that_o be_v to_o be_v very_o partial_a let_v he_o in_o god_n name_n compare_v my_o argument_n and_o answer_n with_o my_o adversary_n and_o weigh_v they_o in_o equal_a balance_n if_o he_o do_v not_o see_v clear_o and_o feel_v sensible_o his_o gross_a error_n &_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n his_o eye_n be_v dim_a his_o finger_n be_v benumb_v that_o he_o may_v have_v present_a and_o speedy_a view_n of_o the_o pearl_n in_o his_o book_n i_o have_v set_v down_o in_o a_o table_n diverse_a strange_a particular_n if_o they_o seem_v harsh_a and_o rough-hewen_a blame_v m._n penry_n for_o they_o come_v out_o of_o his_o forge_n yea_o i_o dare_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o if_o the_o spider_n web_n be_v good_a cloth_n and_o the_o cockatrice_n egg_n wholesome_a meat_n than_o such_o point_n as_o i_o refute_v in_o this_o treatise_n be_v very_o excellent_a divinity_n i_o be_o not_o alone_a of_o this_o judgement_n the_o worthy_a divine_n in_o this_o land_n jump_o with_o i_o and_o do_v mislike_v and_o condemn_v his_o absurdity_n it_o please_v god_n to_o assist_v i_o gracious_o in_o the_o pain_n i_o have_v take_v i_o thank_v his_o majesty_n very_o humble_o for_o it_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o he_o will_v give_v a_o blessing_n unto_o it_o the_o lord_n give_v we_o grace_n to_o see_v and_o know_v our_o ignorance_n to_o be_v true_o humble_a to_o grow_v in_o godly_a knowledge_n and_o not_o in_o anabaptistical_n and_o blasphemous_a fancy_n london_n septemb_n 19_o 1588._o necessaria_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la necessaria_fw-la discimus_fw-la a_o table_n of_o some_o principal_a particular_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n almighty_a god_n never_o call_v any_o to_o be_v magistrate_n but_o he_o furnish_v they_o according_o chap._n 3._o pag._n 59_o 60._o 61._o magistracy_n be_v god_n ordinance_n not_o a_o devise_n of_o man_n chap._n 13._o page_n 136._o 137._o the_o read_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v edify_v chap._n 4._o pag._n 62._o 63._o 64._o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o credit_n in_o itself_o chap._n 8._o page_n 102._o the_o popish_a church_n be_v a_o church_n though_o not_o a_o sound_n church_n chap._n 17._o pag._n 147._o 148._o 149._o 151._o and_o chap._n 23._o pag._n 176._o whosoever_o say_v or_o write_v that_o our_o queen_n be_v a_o schismatique_a for_o separate_v herself_o &_o her_o subject_n from_o the_o popish_a church_n if_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v a_o church_n in_o any_o regard_n make_v a_o gross_a and_o popish_a collection_n and_o be_v at_o the_o least_o a_o unduetifull_a subject_n chap._n 17._o page_n 151._o whether_o no_o more_o fellowship_n be_v to_o be_v have_v with_o papist_n in_o religion_n matter_n then_o with_o pagane_n idolater_n cap._n 23._o pa._n 181._o amightie_a god_n never_o call_v any_o to_o the_o holy_a ministry_n either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n but_o he_o furnish_v they_o with_o gift_n fit_a for_o that_o holy_a function_n chap._n 2._o pag._n 55._o 56._o etc._n etc._n such_o as_o be_v in_o the_o ministry_n and_o have_v gift_n in_o no_o measure_n aught_o to_o be_v remove_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 9_o page_n 110._o none_o unbaptise_v may_v be_v a_o public_a teacher_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n chap._n 8._o page_n 93._o popish_a priest_n have_v a_o calling_n though_o a_o faulty_a one_o chap._n 18._o page_n 154._o 155._o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n make_v he_o a_o minister_n to_o we_o which_o be_v not_o call_v by_o almighty_a god_n cap._n 12._o pa._n 132._o they_o be_v sacrifice_n and_o sacrament_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o ignorant_a leviticall_a priest_n chap._n 8._o pa._n 104._o the_o godly_a be_v not_o pollute_v which_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n at_o the_o hand_n of_o unpreach_v minister_n chap._n 9_o page_n 108._o 110._o 113._o 114._o 115._o and_o chap._n 14._o page_n 138._o a_o sermon_n be_v not_o require_v necessary_o to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o sacrament_n chap._n 7._o
ignorant_a man_n which_o be_v not_o acquaint_v with_o god_n book_n be_v keep_v and_o thrust_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a ministry_n unless_o they_o will_v be_v partaker_n of_o great_a sin_n and_o consequent_o of_o great_a plague_n a_o sufficient_a teacher_n be_v a_o rare_a blessing_n for_o he_o set_v the_o lord_n plough_v forward_o and_o be_v god_n hand_n to_o deliver_v heavenly_a treasure_n if_o good_a care_n shall_v be_v have_v by_o our_o prince_n our_o bishop_n our_o patron_n to_o go_v on_o in_o advance_v and_o make_v choice_n of_o such_o both_o governor_n and_o pastor_n god_n religion_n church_n university_n will_v flourish_v more_o notable_o and_o consequent_o god_n glory_n our_o gracious_a prince_n shall_v be_v more_o sound_o honour_v the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n shall_v be_v singular_o encourage_v to_o serve_v god_n to_o fight_v for_o the_o religion_n for_o their_o prince_n for_o their_o country_n against_o any_o either_o foreign_a or_o home_o enemy_n and_o god_n favour_n and_o blessing_n shall_v be_v multiply_v upon_o our_o queen_n upon_o we_o and_o upon_o our_o posterity_n almighty_a god_n will_v accept_v this_o at_o our_o hand_n for_o great_a thankfulness_n for_o his_o late_a mercy_n in_o preserve_v the_o english_a both_o fleet_n and_o nation_n and_o amaze_a &_o disperse_v the_o popish_a fleet_n by_o his_o mighty_a hand_n this_o gracious_a and_o notable_a favour_n of_o god_n have_v daunt_v god_n &_o our_o enemy_n in_o all_o popish_a kingdom_n and_o church_n and_o have_v put_v life_n into_o god_n servant_n in_o all_o nation_n &_o church_n that_o profess_v the_o religion_n the_o lord_n for_o his_o christ_n sake_n grant_v that_o we_o may_v be_v reverent_o mindful_a of_o and_o humble_o thankful_a to_o his_o majesty_n for_o this_o deliverance_n and_o that_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o danger_n we_o use_v the_o 83._o and_o 68_o psalm_n to_o entreat_v god_n favour_n so_o we_o may_v ever_o sing_v the_o 124._o and_o 46._o psalm_n to_o publish_v god_n mercy_n and_o to_o testify_v our_o thankfulness_n for_o this_o gracious_a conquest_n chap._n 3._o almighty_a god_n never_o call_v any_o to_o magistracy_n but_o he_o furnish_v they_o according_o the_o egyptian_n be_v hard_a master_n to_o the_o israelite_n they_o keep_v they_o very_o short_a in_o egypt_n when_o almighty_a god_n will_v bless_v the_o israelite_n with_o freedom_n and_o government_n he_o furnish_v moses_n notable_o for_o that_o excellent_a service_n he_o give_v he_o singular_a wisdom_n courage_n etc._n etc._n if_o he_o have_v not_o moses_n have_v be_v utter_o unfit_a for_o such_o a_o famous_a match_n moses_n complain_v unto_o the_o lord_n that_o he_o alone_o be_v not_o able_a to_o govern_v the_o israelite_n almighty_a god_n for_o the_o ease_n of_o moses_n appoint_v 70._o elder_n of_o israel_n to_o help_v in_o that_o government_n that_o those_o ancient_n may_v carry_v themselves_o profitable_o in_o that_o charge_n the_o lord_n do_v garnish_v they_o according_o num._n 11._o moses_n before_o his_o death_n desire_v the_o lord_n to_o appoint_v one_o to_o succeed_v he_o in_o the_o government_n that_o the_o israelite_n may_v not_o be_v as_o sheep_n without_o a_o shepherd_n num._n 27._o god_n pleasure_n be_v that_o josua_n shall_v be_v the_o man_n deut._n 34._o he_o do_v so_o assist_v and_o furnish_v he_o with_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n with_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n courage_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o become_v very_o famous_a in_o peace_n in_o war_n at_o and_o after_o his_o die_a day_n the_o church_n &_o common_a wealth_n of_o the_o israelite_n decay_v great_o &_o be_v at_o a_o low_a ebb_n in_o king_n saul_n time_n that_o both_o church_n and_o common_a wealth_n may_v be_v reviue_v the_o lord_n advance_v his_o servant_n david_n to_o the_o kingdom_n he_o do_v beautify_v he_o with_o extraordinary_a grace_n as_o with_o precious_a diamond_n david_n be_v very_o religious_a very_o wise_a very_o valiant_a very_o religious_a for_o he_o bring_v home_o the_o lord_n ark_n very_o 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