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A61683	A letter sent to a friend containing some reflections upon a late book intituled, The Roman church vindicated, and M.S. convicted of a false witnesse against her Wherein is declar'd, that the Pope may excommunicate and depose Kings according to the judgement of their greatest doctors, decrees and practices of several Popes, and Canons of their most approved councils; and the author convicted of most notorious falsities, &c. By J.S. B.D.	Stopford, Joshua, 1636-1675.	1675 (1675)	Wing S5743; ESTC R222081	29,048	37

eminent S. Austin de Civit. dei lib. 20 c. 8. in Psal 70. Calvin Instit lib. 4. c. 2. n. 12. All most false That there was no visible Church but the Popish Church for 1260 p. 95. years before Luther Napper upon the Revel p. 145. Perkins upon the Creed p. 400. and in his Reformed Catholick p. 307. All false That the Hebrew Doctors have corrupted the Scriptures Calvin Instit p. 97. lib. 1. c. 13. n. 9 False That S. Hierom thought it not safe to recur to those Hebrew Copies where the Septuagint differs from them In Epist ad Gal. cap. 3. False That the first Reformers and their Successors have entirely condemned p. 117. and rejected the Fathers both in general and particular as blind ignorant and full of Errours Luther de servo Arbitrio p. 434. Calvin in Heb. c. 7. v. 9. Instit lib. 4. c. 12. n. 19. 30. Humsred de vita Jeweli p. 212. Fulkes Retentive against Bristow p. 55. Wotton defence of Perk us p. 491. Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 6. p. 423. All false That the ten Commandements belong not to Christians Luther Serm. p. 124. de Mose and approved by Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 8. Sect. 91. Luther in Gal. cap. p. 227. That it is Heresy to require good works to Salvation Luth. Serm. de piscat Petri p. 154 All false in this Gentleman's sence for they constantly affirm that the ten Commandements belong to Christians as a Rule of life and that good works are necessary to salvation That the Church of England doth acknowledge in her Marginal Notes p. 164. upon Joh. 14. 12. That Believers in every Age have power to work Miracles False That infinite Miracles have been wrought by the Reliques of Saints p. 168. Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 10 p. 866. False That the real Presence is confirm'd by many Miracles acknowledged p. 169. by Dr. Humfrey in his Jesuitisme p. 2. rat 5. p. 626. and Centurists Cent. 4. col 431. And that famous one in the Town of Knoblock an 1510. is related as a certain truth by Osiander ●ent 16. cap. 14. p. 28. All most false That several Miracles are confessed by the C●n●urists to prove the p. 170. Mass to be a true Sacrifice Purgatory and Prayer for the dead Cent. 6. Col. 819. Cent. 7. Col. 577. All most false That the Miracles wrought by S. Oswald and others are approved by p. 179. Holinshead in his Chron. Vol. 1. p. 115. 170. False That the formentioned Miracles and many others of the seventh Age p. 180. are acknowledged by the Centurists Cent. 7. cap. 10. Col. 533. and Osiander Epitom Cent. 7. False That many undoubted Miracles were wrought in the 8. 9. 10. and 11. Ages in confirmation of the use of Images the Veneration of holy Reliques Invocation of Saints and the Sacrifice of the Mass offered for the Living and the Dead Osiander Epit. Cent. 8. p. 47. and 92. Item p. 24. 25. The Centurists Cent. 8. cap. 13. Cent. 9. cap. 13. Osiander Epit. Cent. 9. p. 63. All most false That the Miracles of S. Dunstan are recorded and approved by Holinshead Vol. 1. 165. and others in the same Age by the Conturists Cent. 10. cap. 13. and Osiander Epit. Cent. 10. p. 125. All most false That the Miracles wrought in the Eleventh Age by S. Ansolm O●●●o p. 181. and others in confirmation of the Sacrifice of the Mass and Invocation of Saints are confessed by Osiander Epit. Cent. 9. 10. 11. p. 213. False That infinite Miracles were done by Malachias in the twelveth Age whereof some were seen and acknowledged by many hundreds of People Holinshead Chron. p. 55. False That many Miracles were done by S. Bernard and acknowledged by the p. 182. Centurists Cent. 12. col 1634. 1635. 1649. and Osiander Cent. 12. lib. 4. cap. 6. p. 310. And that these moved Whitaker to give him the just Character of a true Saint De Eccles p. 369. All most false He further tells us That signal Miracles were wrought in the thirteenth Age by S. Dominick and S. Francis even while they were preaching against the Albigensian Errours whom Satan had seduced to deny those known Doctrines of Gods Church viz. Purgatory Prayers for the dead Confession Extream Unction the Popes Authority Images Traditions And in the next page assures us That the Miracles wrought in the 15 th Age are admired and reverenced by Protestants themselves But for both these we must take his bare word and how can he in reason expect this from us who stands convicted of above a hundred notorious Lyes Perhaps here you 'l say That the Printer has mistaken many of the Quotations and therefore we cannot in justice charge them on the Author Or that he hath taken them upon the Credit of other Writers But to the first I answer 1. That the Printer cannot be charged with any mistake in reference to many nay most of the Quotations I have mention'd 2. That about two Months ago I writ to this Gentleman and have great assurance that my Letter came to his Hands and desired him that if there were any Errata's in the Citations he would be pleased to send me a corrected Book and it should be faithfully return'd But to this day I never heard from him And to the second Plea viz. That he hath taken these Citations upon the Credit of other Writers which I believe to be a great truth I answer That to take things upon trust in Controversial Points argues much weakness and imprudence but to do this and not give his Reader the least intimation of it argues great unfaithfulness and dishonesty that will not admit of any Excuse And to evidence his great Proficiency in this Catholick Vertue I could give you many other Instances but for Brevity's sake I 'le mention but one which you may find p. 190. and will appear most notorious upon your comparing of it with p. 127. of my Book Here he confidently tells the World that all that the Bishops of Bononia as they are alledged in the last page but one of my Book do affirm i● That private mens constructions of the Bible have raised great storms and differences and that the Doctrines preached by Christians or the Romish Church se●m contrary to those contained in the Bible But the advice of those Bishops to the Pope was related by me in these words Let that little suffice which is wont to be read in the Mass and more then that let no Mortal be allow'd to read For so long as men were content with that little your affairs succeeded according to desire but quite otherways since so much of the Scriptures was publickly read In short this is the Book which above all others hath raised these storms and ten pests And truly if any one read that Book the Scriptures and observe the Customes and Practices of our Church will see that there is no agreement betwixt them and that the Doctrine which we preach is altogether different from and sometimes cont●●ry to that contained in the Bible Now can any Man pick out of these Words or will any one but a frontless Romanist affirm that the sense of them is That private mens constructions of the Bible have raised great storms and differences c. I grant we are to put the most favourable construction upon another's Words and Actions Yet I take that Caution in their Canon-Law to be extravagant viz. That if a P●p●st see one of their Priests k●ssing a Woman he 's bid to believe that the Priest is only giving her good Counsel For though Charity be can did and ingenuous yet 't is not blind and block●sh And that their Charity must have these debasing Qualifications who endeavour to excuse this Gentleman is obvious to any I hav found him guilty of about an hundred and fifty false Quotations and observed near halfe that number that are wholly impertinent besides many that I have not time to examine Sir if these Roman Factors dare publish such notorious Falsities to the World we may easily guess what pretty Stories they tell their deluded Proselytes in secret Let us commiserate their Condition who have committed their Souls to the Conduct of these Spiritual Mountchancks and admire Gods discriminating Mercy who hath delivered us from their Fatal delusions Sir I am Your most Obliged and faithful Servant I. S.

Provincial or not confirmed by the Pope and therefore no Doctrines of the Church But here according to this Gentleman a few Bishops in France and Doctors of Sorbonne have power to make most fundamental Decrees and Doctrines without the Popes Approbation nay against his express Will 2. We find the French Bishops and Sorbonne Doctors asserting the contrary Doctrine In the year 1589 the Leaguers propounded two Questions to the Doctors of Sorbon 1. Whether the People of France may not be discharged from the Oath of Allegiance made to Henry 3 2 Whether the People may with a safe Conscience take up Arms against him And after earnest Prayers that the Spirit of God would direct them a solemn Mass and most diligent discussion of the ‡ de Serres p. 870. * And that the greatest part of the Clergy of France were of the same judgment will not be deny'd by any that hath look't into their Historians Points they answer 1. That Henry both by the Civil and Po●t●fical Law is fallen from his dignity 2. That the People of France may lawfully fight against him 3. That these Decrees be sent to the Pope for his Confirmation Boucher de justa Henrici 3. abdicatione And accordingly a Letter was drawn up and sent to Rome in which they most humbly beseech his Holyness for three things 1. That they may be declar'd absolved from their Oath to Henry 3. 2. That he would decree the War just which they had undertaken against that Oppressor of Publick Religion and Liberty 3. That in this necessary Work he would assist them with his Prayers to God Almighty and with a Jubile of Indulgence that others thereby might be provoked to joyn with them Idem p. 393. To which the good old Gentleman return'd a very gracious Answer and for their greater encouragement issued out his Bull against King Henry and all his Adherents Idem p. 403. And this Author tells us p. 377 the Faculty of Sorbon had done no more than what is incumbent on Lawyers Confessors Parish Priests and Doctors who ought to assert and vindicate the power and dignity of the Roman See Upon the publishing of this Bull the people were greatly encouraged in their Rebellion against their Soveraign whom they no more call King but only Henry de Valois Heretick Tyrant and what not Nay they ●ut him out of the Canon and declared it unlawful to pray for him in Publick Boucher p. 380. And this Author p. 418 informs us That so wonderfully powerfull was this Bull against Henry and his Adherents that by a Miracle one at Venice but offering to speak in behalf of the King sunk presently down and no sooner was carried home but he died And a little after the same Doctors return'd these Answers to certain de Serres p. 894. Quaeries in reference to Henry 4. their lawful King 1. That all Catholicks by Divine Law are forbid to admit any into the Throne that is an Heretick or a favourer of Heresy 2. That those who favour the said Henry are deserters of Religion and continually in a mortal sin so those who for love to their Religion do oppose him do very much merit both of God and Men. And as on the one hand those who assist the King will be Eternally damned so on the other hand 't is most meet to conclude that they who are slain in this Cause against the said Henry shall obtain an eve●lasting Reward and be crowned with the Trophies of Martyrdom See them at large in Mr. Foulis History of Romish Treasons c. p. 566. But about 4 years after when the King had vanquish'd the Leaguers and entred Paris those Sorbon Doctors change their Note make void all former Decrees and profess great Zeal and Loyalty to King Henry 4. Idem p. 591. And what was the Opinion of their Bishops in Lewis 13. time is clear from this following Story Lewis 13. being come to his Majority summoned the three Estates to meet Two of them viz. the Clergy and Nobles presently concluded That the Council of Trent should be published and received in France But the third Estate made this Decree That his Majesty shal be humbly desired that it may be established by the three Estates for a fundamental Law That the King being acknowledged Head in his Dominions holding his Crown and Authority only from God there 's no Power on Earth whatsoever Spiritual or Temporal that hath any Right over his Kingdom either to depose our Kings or dispence with or absolve their Subjects from the Fidelity and Obedience which they owe to their Soveraign for any cause or pretence whatsoever This startles the Clergy who with the Nobles set themselves against the third Estate with a Resolution to quash their Loyal Deecre And to effect this they desired Cardinal Perron a man of great Eloquence and Learning to discuss the Point in an Oration to the third Estate This Cardinal being attended with some Lords and Bishops as Representatives of their respective Estates and to signify that he spake not only his own but their Opinions too went to them where he made a very long * And the Pope gave him thanks for his Speech if K. James may be credited p. 383. Speech to shew the unreasonableness and absurdity of the foresaid Proposition endeavouring to prove by Reason that sometimes Kings should and by Example that sometimes they had been deposed He affirmed that this was the current doctrine in France till the time of Calvin And for the contrary doctrine viz. That Kings are not deposable by the Pope He calls a D●ctrine that bre●ds Shis●ns a Gate that leads into all Heresy and to be held in so high a degree of detestation that rather then yield to it he and his fellow Bishops would chuse to burn at a Stake Sir By this you see how Romish Doctors can alter their Judgements and preach contrary Doctrines according to the present Exigency of Affairs This Cardinal Perron saith our King James p. 386 was a Follower of Henry 4. even when deposed by the Pope and in a certain Assembly holden at the Jacobins in Paris he withstood the Popes Nuntio to his face when the said Nuntio labour'd to make this Doctrine touching the Popes temporal Soveraignty pass for an Article of Faith But in this Speech to the third Estate he confidently affirms that whosoever maintains this Doctrine to be wicked that Popes have power to depose Kings they teach men to believe that there hath not been any Church for many Ages past and that the Church is the very Synagogue of Antichrist Herein hath he very wel acommoda●ed himself to the Times ibid. And that ingenuous Co●fession of the Jesuits in Paris is observable The Court of Parliament having censur'd Anto●ius Sanct●rellus his Book which was printed at Rome by Pe●mission of the Super●ours and Approbation of Vitel●scus General of the Jesuits sent for these Gentlemen and demanded Whether they believ'd as their General did

is offer'd by him to ground our belief upon We have charged their Church with the Alteration of several places in the Ancient Fathers let this Gentleman prove those places to have been corrupted either by Hereticks or Transcribers and we 'l beg her pardon and call them from henceforth Charitable Corrections At present we cannot but think it strange that the Fathers should be so often printed by the Roman Church with so much professed care and fai●hfulness expressed in their Prefaces and for so long pass for Authentick without one Syllable of any Corruption and yet in this last Century when Pro●estants began to read them and urged from them so many express Testimonies against their Novel Doctrines they should be charged with so many Corruptions by Hereticks and Transcribers Here we must either condemn her former negligence or suspect her present honesty and whether of the two is obvious to any man But we cannot saith he suspect the Ancient Fathers to be corrupted by their Church to multiply Witnesses for Popery for those very Fahers whose Sayings or Corruptions She corrects afford plentiful Proofs of the Roman Church's Faith from those sound parts which are not call'd in Question either by the Catholick or the Protestant Church witness Perron Bellar. c. p. 116. If all the Fathers be so express for Popery why then have their most eminent Doctors urged so many spurious Treatises according to their own Confessions and falsely alledged others Let any Person look into Coccius Bellarmin Canisius c. who trade most with the Fathers and examine how many of those places are convicted of Forgery by Baronius Bellar Erasmus Sixtus Senensis Possevin c. and he must either deny what this Gentleman hath so confidently affirmed or grant that these great Champions and profound Scholars had been little conversant in the Fathers For take those spurious Treatises our and their large Folio's would dwindle into little Quarto's 'T is time to leave this and pass to his next Chap. where he lays down these three Propositions which contain and he might have added confirm the contracted Venome and Quintessence of all my objected Cases p. 137 1. That the Church of Rome hath universally degenerated from her wholesome and Primitive use and faithful dispensation of that most important Sacrament of Penance seeing that contrary to the express sense of Antiquity she daily and every where allows her Priests to admits evidently impenitent wilfully and uncorrected and daily relapsing sinners and all sorts without exception to the Sacred benefit of Absolution and Communion Not one Confessarius in ten Thousand daring once in twenty years to make use of the retaining part of his power for fear of incurring the shameful Censure of singularity 2. That the Primitive Practice of large and severe Injunctions is unwarrantably perverted into that fatal indulging of a five Paters or a Rosaries Pennance A Custom wofully experienced to beget in sinners a damnable presumption that Gods mercy is at the beck of the Courteous Confessor 3. That the universally established Doctrine and use of Indulgences do expresly thwart the Primitive sense and Practice of that Juridical Part lull Gods People into a presumptuous security and evacuate the Apostles Counsel to work out our salvation with fear and trembling Now in vindication of his Holy Mother three things are urged by him 1. That Pope Alexander 7. in the General Congregation at Rome an 1659. declared That the Doctrines held forth by those Casuists I mention'd are false erroneous scandalous dangerous p. 129. I confess this is as plausably urged as any thing I have met with in his whole Book yet there 's little in it when all things are well considered There had been for some years sharp Contests between the Jansenists and Jesuits in France and how Pope Alexander 7. stood affected towards the latter is clear from his severe Censures of several Books that were written against them In the Year 1657. he condemned the Provincial Letters Congreg 66. Sommaires des Declarations des Curez de Paris Congreg 69. Jesuitarum Atheismus detectus Congreg 84. Alphonsi de Vargas Toletani Relatio ad Principes Christianos de Stratagem Sophismat Politicis Societatis Jesu Congreg 85. c. But this would not do the work for the devout sort of Catholicks to use their own Words were scandalized at those Doctrines of the Jesuits and Hereticks made their advantages of them Therefore the Pope an 1665. not 1659. as our Adversary affirms censured certain Propositions delivered by those Casuists which were most insisted on by their Adversaries and offensive to some devout Catholicks We see now what 't was that put the Pope upon this Censure viz. the present State of Affairs in France and not any dis-like of the Doctrines for had they been really displeasing to his Holiness 1. He would have condemned the Authors of them and prohibited their Books which was not done 2. He would not have been so severe upon those Doctors that writ against them 2. He urgeth the severe Penances imposed by the Primitive Church upon notorious Offenders of which he gives us p. 146 an Instructive Index to use his own expression extracted out of Gratian c. And then assures his Reader that these are enough to confront the Minister's pretended List and acquaint us with the careful and strict Proceedings of those best Ages of the Catholick Church p150 But what is this to the present Church of Rome which as he told us before hath universally degenerated from her wholesom and primitive use and faithful dispensation of that most important Sacrament of Pennance The Roman Church whilst a Virgin was as severe as now she is become remiss and what the Whore obtains for twelve pence the honest Virgin had scarce granted for a Penance of twelve years It was not then as now at Rome where Dispensations and Pardons are presently got at a small rate according to their Taxa Cancellariae Apostolicae This Gentleman seems to question whether such a Book was ever printed and allowed by their Church I thought this was sufficiently clear'd from the pregnant Testimonies of their own Writers which he neither hath nor can object against And for his further satisfaction I will produce the Book when he or any other shall call upon me But suppose saith he p. 151. the World had seen or the Pope allow'd a Book of that Model yet I am so just as to clear the Church of that imputation and to acknowledge that not only some Sorbonists but even the Inquisitors of Rome have stigmatiz●d it Certainly this Gentleman deserves to be stigmatiz'd for an impudent Lyar. 1. I affirm saith he that some Sorbonists have condemned this Book But where doth he find any mentiond by me except Espencaeus whose pious Censure the Roman Church is so far from approving that the Spanish Inquisitors have commanded it to be blotted out in their Expurgatory Index p. 60. 2. I acknowledge saith he that the Inquisitors