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A45460 A reply to the Catholick gentlemans answer to the most materiall parts of the booke Of schisme whereto is annexed, an account of H.T. his appendix to his Manual of controversies, concerning the Abbot of Bangors answer to Augustine / by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing H598; ESTC R9274 139,505 188

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be_v deceive_v and_o there_o i_o acknowledge_v infallibility_n upon_o this_o ground_n whether_o of_o nature_n or_o of_o grace_n of_o common_a dictate_v or_o of_o religion_n that_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o god_n to_o lie_v to_o deceive_v or_o to_o be_v deceive_v but_o that_o the_o whole_a canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n though_o i_o full_o believe_v this_o also_o and_o have_v not_o the_o least_o doubt_n to_o any_o part_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o account_v not_o myself_o infallible_a in_o this_o belief_n nor_o can_v any_o church_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o unless_o they_o be_v otherwise_o privilege_v by_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o affirm_v it_o nor_o any_o that_o believe_v that_o church_n be_v infallible_a in_o their_o belief_n and_o as_o that_o privilege_n be_v not_o yet_o prove_v by_o any_o donation_n of_o god_n to_o belong_v to_o any_o church_n particular_o to_o the_o roman_a so_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v and_o prove_v infallible_o it_o can_v be_v no_o competent_a medium_n to_o induce_v any_o new_a act_n of_o infallible_a belief_n the_o want_n of_o which_o may_v denominate_v we_o either_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n num._n 40_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n this_o be_v certain_a that_o i_o that_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o believe_v any_o thing_n infallible_o in_o this_o matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o infallible_a must_v yet_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o believe_v her_o fallible_a or_o else_o i_o can_v not_o by_o this_o gentleman_n be_v adjudge_v a_o schismatic_a for_o so_o believe_v and_o then_o this_o suppose_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o in_o his_o opinion_n i_o believe_v untrue_o that_o sure_o be_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v infallible_o the_o matter_n be_v visible_a i_o can_v think_v fit_a to_o enlarge_v on_o it_o num._n 41_o one_o thing_n only_o i_o must_v far_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o ground_n which_o he_o here_o have_v on_o which_o he_o find_v his_o exception_n against_o the_o solidity_n of_o my_o discourse_n call_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n that_o we_o that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o num._n 42_o the_o matter_n in_o that_o place_n chap._n ii_o sect._n 12._o lie_n thus_o in_o examine_v the_o nature_n of_o schism_n i_o have_v occasion_n to_o mention_v one_o not_o real_a but_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppose_v first_o that_o our_o ancestor_n have_v criminous_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o suppose_v second_o that_o we_o their_o posterity_n repent_v and_o desire_v to_o reform_v their_o sin_n and_o to_o be_v reunite_v to_o they_o yet_o suppose_v three_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v to_o our_o reunion_n any_o condition_n which_o be_v unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v in_o this_o conjuncture_n i_o say_v we_o can_v not_o just_o be_v charge_v for_o continue_v that_o separation_n num._n 43_o this_o fiction_n of_o case_n i_o can_v not_o think_v have_v any_o weak_a part_n in_o it_o for_o as_o it_o suppose_v that_o on_o one_o side_n which_o i_o know_v a_o romanist_n will_v not_o grant_v viz_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v any_o condition_n unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v so_o it_o suppose_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o which_o we_o can_v no_o way_n grant_v viz_o that_o our_o ancestor_n criminous_o separate_v but_o this_o i_o know_v be_v ordinary_a to_o be_v do_v in_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppositio_fw-la non_fw-la ponit_fw-la be_v the_o acknowledge_a rule_n my_o suppose_v either_o of_o these_o be_v not_o the_o take_v they_o for_o grant_v and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o i_o foresee_v that_o objection_n that_o the_o romanist_n who_o acknowledge_v not_o any_o such_o hard_a condition_n require_v to_o our_o reconciliation_n will_v conceive_v this_o a_o impossible_a case_n and_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o that_o acknowledge_v not_o their_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v a_o supposition_n mean_v as_o before_o a_o fiction_n of_o case_n which_o be_v found_v in_o the_o possibility_n of_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n and_o make_v the_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n what_o i_o have_v offend_v herein_o i_o can_v imagine_v for_o 1._o i_o only_o set_v a_o fiction_n of_o case_n do_v not_o take_v their_o infallibility_n for_o a_o thing_n confest_o false_a nor_o in_o that_o place_n so_o much_o as_o dispute_v against_o it_o only_o i_o say_v that_o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v before_o i_o say_v it_o that_o their_o infallibility_n be_v not_o acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o so_o that_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n be_v to_o we_o i_o e._n in_o our_o opinion_n a_o thing_n possible_a and_o so_o for_o disputation_n sake_n supposable_a in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o i_o suppose_v that_o which_o i_o be_o know_v not_o to_o believe_v and_o if_o this_o gentleman_n be_v thus_o severe_a i_o shall_v despair_v to_o approve_v my_o discourse_n to_o he_o num._n 44_o second_o that_o i_o make_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n be_v not_o with_o any_o appearance_n of_o reason_n suggest_v by_o he_o it_o come_v in_o mere_o as_o a_o incidentall_a last_o branch_n the_o least_o necessary_a most_o unconsiderable_a of_o any_o and_o that_o which_o may_v have_v be_v spare_v then_o or_o leave_v out_o now_o without_o any_o weaken_n of_o or_o disturb_v the_o discourse_n num._n 45_o three_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o i_o proceed_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o this_o be_v still_o of_o the_o same_o strain_n i_o make_v but_o one_o supposition_n viz_o in_o case_n she_o make_v any_o unlawful_a act_n the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n and_o that_o one_o certain_o be_v not_o in_o the_o plural_a more_o or_o indefinite_o certain_a supposition_n num._n 46_o that_o i_o put_v this_o one_o case_n as_o possible_a and_o then_o proceed_v to_o consider_v what_o be_v by_o the_o principle_n acknowledge_v by_o all_o particular_o by_o mr._n knot_n to_o be_v do_v in_o that_o one_o case_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o strict_a law_n of_o discourse_n which_o i_o have_v meet_v with_o and_o if_o in_o compliance_n with_o this_o gentleman_n i_o must_v deny_v myself_o such_o liberty_n and_o yet_o yield_v he_o so_o much_o great_a on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o i_o must_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o a_o defence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v require_v to_o grant_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n infallible_a i._n e._n to_o yield_v not_o only_o that_o she_o speak_v all_o truth_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a she_o shall_v speak_v any_o thing_n but_o truth_n who_o yet_o by_o enter_v on_o this_o theme_n i_o undertake_v to_o contradict_v and_o to_o prove_v injurious_a in_o censure_v we_o for_o schismatic_n this_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v a_o hard_a task_n indeed_o the_o very_a same_o as_o if_o i_o be_v require_v to_o begin_v a_o duel_n by_o present_v and_o deliver_v up_o all_o weapon_n into_o the_o enemy_n hand_n to_o plead_v a_o cause_n and_o introduce_v my_o defence_n by_o confess_v myself_o guilty_a of_o all_o that_o the_o plaintiff_n do_v or_o can_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o charge_v upon_o i_o num._n 47_o and_o if_o these_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o a_o dispute_n these_o will_v questionless_a be_v hard_a whatsoever_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o reunion_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v and_o moreover_o this_o gentleman_n will_v be_v as_o infallible_a as_o his_o church_n and_o then_o it_o be_v pity_n he_o shall_v lavish_a out_o medicine_n that_o be_v so_o secure_v by_o charm_n that_o he_o shall_v defend_v his_o cause_n by_o reason_n which_o have_v this_o one_o so_o much_o cheap_a expedient_a to_o answer_v a_o whole_a book_n in_o one_o period_n num._n 48_o and_o so_o much_o for_o his_o animadversion_n on_o this_o second_o chapter_n which_o be_v no_o excellent_a presage_n of_o that_o which_o we_o be_v to_o expect_v in_o the_o ensue_a chap._n iii_o exception_n to_o the_o three_o chapter_n answer_v sect._n i._n the_o division_n of_o schism_n justify_v of_o schism_n against_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n of_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n num._n 1_o the_o exception_n against_o the_o three_o chap_n be_v reducible_a to_o 4_o head_n the_o first_o about_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o division_n of_o schism_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o his_o three_o chapter_n what_o be_v chief_o to_o be_v note_v to_o our_o purpose_n be_v that_o his_o division_n be_v insufficient_a for_o he_o make_v schism_n to_o be_v only_o against_o monarchical_a power_n or_o against_o fraternal_a
it_o be_v to_o we_o to_o stand_v with_o the_o romanist_n in_o full_a authority_n num._n 8_o three_o this_o be_v in_o perfect_a concord_n with_o the_o decree_n of_o gratian_n be_v in_o the_o aforesaid_a body_n of_o their_o canon_n law_n approve_v and_o set_v out_o by_o pope_n gregory_n xiii_o annex_v to_o that_o decree_n of_o gratian_n distinct_a 99_o c._n 1._o num._n 9_o and_o four_a whereas_o this_o gentleman_n say_v that_o as_o soon_o as_o occasion_n serve_v i_o will_v tell_v you_o this_o epistle_n of_o anacletus_fw-la be_v of_o no_o authority_n i_o must_v say_v 1._o that_o i_o have_v no_o where_o that_o i_o remember_v ever_o say_v so_o 2._o that_o this_o gentleman_n can_v without_o divine_v tell_v i_o now_o what_o i_o shall_v do_v hereafter_o 3._o that_o occasion_n not_o yet_o require_v it_o of_o i_o but_o anacletus_fw-la affirm_v what_o i_o affirm_v i_o have_v no_o temptation_n to_o do_v so_o and_o so_o as_o yet_o he_o can_v have_v no_o pretence_n to_o make_v use_n of_o this_o subterfuge_n 4._o that_o there_o be_v thing_n call_v argumenta_fw-la ad_fw-la homines_fw-la argument_n that_o may_v bind_v he_o who_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n from_o which_o they_o be_v draw_v though_o they_o conclude_v not_o he_o that_o allow_v not_o those_o authority_n and_o such_o be_v this_o of_o anacletus_fw-la his_o epistle_n to_o a_o romanist_n num._n 10_o and_o by_o the_o same_o logic_n that_o he_o can_v infer_v that_o anacletus_n authority_n be_v undue_o produce_v by_o i_o who_o as_o he_o but_o think_v will_v not_o stand_v to_o anacletus_n authority_n i_o may_v sure_o conclude_v that_o anacletus_n authority_n be_v due_o produce_v by_o i_o because_o against_o he_o who_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v must_v stand_v to_o anacletus_n authority_n num._n 11_o a_o three_o testimony_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n i_o shall_v now_o add_v which_o must_v again_o have_v force_n with_o a_o romanist_n that_o of_o anicetus_n ad_fw-la episcopos_fw-la galliae_fw-la which_o follow_v there_o in_o the_o 2._o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la canonici_fw-la primarum_fw-la civitatum_fw-la episcopos_fw-la apostoli_fw-la &_o successores_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la regulariter_fw-la patriarchas_fw-la &_o primate_fw-la esse_fw-la constituerunt_fw-la the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n regular_o appoint_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o prime_a city_n shall_v be_v primate_fw-la and_o patriarch_n and_o till_o somewhat_o be_v produce_v to_o the_o contrary_a as_o it_o be_v sure_a here_o be_v nothing_o offer_v by_o this_o gentleman_n this_o may_v at_o the_o present_a suffice_v in_o this_o place_n sect._n iu._n the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a power_n of_o patriarch_n the_o power_n of_o convoke_v counsel_n a_o prerogative_n of_o supremacy_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o over_o patriarch_n proof_n from_o the_o counsel_n and_o canon_n apostolic_a and_o the_o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la and_o pope_n gregorys_n argue_v num._n 1_o the_o last_o exception_n concern_v the_o supreme_a power_n of_o patriarch_n or_o the_o no_o superiority_n of_o any_o ecclesiastical_a power_n over_o they_o thus._n num._n 2_o then_o he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o power_n over_o the_o patriarch_n his_o proof_n be_v because_o the_o emperor_n use_v his_o secular_a authority_n in_o gather_v of_o counsel_n conclude_v that_o because_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o gather_v general_a counsel_n therefore_o he_o have_v no_o authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o how_o unconsequent_a that_o be_v i_o leave_v to_o your_o judgement_n num._n 3_o that_o there_o be_v no_o supreme_a power_n in_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n nor_o in_o any_o other_o above_o that_o of_o primate_fw-la and_o patriarch_n but_o only_o that_o of_o the_o emperor_n in_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n as_o of_o every_o sovereign_a prince_n in_o his_o dominion_n i_o think_v sufficient_o prove_v by_o this_o that_o the_o power_n of_o convoke_v counsel_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o to_o the_o prince_n in_o every_o nation_n and_o the_o emperor_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o i_o deem_v this_o a_o sufficient_a proof_n not_o because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o branch_n of_o a_o supreme_a authority_n imaginable_a or_o which_o be_v claim_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n save_v only_o this_o but_o i._o because_o this_o of_o convoke_a counsel_n be_v certain_o one_o such_o prerogative_n of_o the_o supreme_a power_n inseparable_a from_o it_o and_o he_o that_o have_v not_o that_o have_v not_o the_o supreme_a power_n as_o in_o any_o nation_n some_o prerogative_n there_o be_v which_o always_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o imperial_a majesty_n and_o wherever_o any_o one_o of_o they_o true_o be_v there_o be_v the_o supreme_a power_n and_o it_o be_v treason_n for_o any_o but_o the_o supreme_a to_o assume_v any_o one_o of_o they_o and_o one_o of_o that_o number_n be_v call_v of_o national_a assembly_n and_o second_o because_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v as_o avowed_o challenge_v this_o power_n of_o convoke_v general_a counsel_n as_o any_o other_o i_o can_v have_v name_v or_o insist_v on_o and_o true_o that_o be_v the_o only_a reason_n why_o i_o specify_v in_o this_o because_o this_o of_o all_o other_o be_v most_o eminent_a in_o itself_o most_o characteristical_a of_o the_o supreme_a power_n and_o most_o challenge_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o most_o due_a to_o he_o in_o case_n he_o be_v the_o universal_a pastor_n num._n 4_o and_o then_o where_o there_o be_v several_a branch_n of_o a_o power_n all_o resident_a in_o the_o same_o subject_n inseparable_o from_o the_o absence_n of_o one_o to_o collect_v the_o absence_n of_o all_o i_o must_v still_o think_v a_o solid_a way_n of_o probation_n and_o can_v discern_v the_o infirm_a part_n or_o inconsequence_n of_o it_o if_o i_o can_v it_o will_v be_v no_o difficult_a matter_n to_o repair_v it_o and_o supply_v the_o imperfectnesse_n of_o the_o proof_n by_o what_o be_v put_v together_o in_o the_o 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