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superioure_n parent_n in_o the_o five_o commandment_n 49._o but_o we_o with_o good_a warrant_n do_v aver_v that_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v resist_v of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o in_o general_a the_o deny_v of_o obedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n be_v of_o great_a obligation_n and_o moment_n and_o first_o we_o prove_v this_o by_o a_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o diverse_a degree_n of_o that_o care_n which_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v of_o the_o salvation_n of_o other_o for_o this_o care_n tie_v we_o to_o three_o thing_n to_o wit_n first_o to_o the_o do_v of_o that_o which_o may_v be_v edificative_a and_o may_v give_v a_o good_a example_n to_o all_o second_o to_o the_o eschew_v of_o that_o which_o may_v be_v scandalous_a or_o a_o evil_a example_n to_o all_o that_o be_v to_o the_o eschew_v of_o every_o thing_n which_o be_v either_o sin_n or_o have_v a_o manifest_a show_n of_o sin_n three_o to_o abstain_v even_o from_o that_o which_o although_o 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precept_n make_v way_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n for_o our_o superior_n be_v set_v over_o we_o to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o may_v make_v we_o to_o do_v our_o duty_n to_o all_o other_o and_o consequent_o our_o obedience_n to_o they_o be_v a_o mean_v institute_v by_o god_n to_o procure_v our_o obedience_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n now_o will_v you_o know_v what_o follow_v out_o of_o this_o let_v your_o own_o amesius_n who_o word_n be_v more_o gracious_a unto_o you_o than_o we_o tell_v you_o it_o see_v say_v he_o cap._n citato_fw-la §_o 6._o humane_a society_n have_v the_o place_n of_o a_o foundation_n or_o ground_n in_o respect_n of_o other_o duty_n of_o justice_n and_o charity_n which_o be_v command_v in_o the_o second_o table_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o these_o crime_n which_o direct_o procure_v the_o perturbation_n confusion_n and_o eversion_n of_o it_o be_v more_o grievous_a than_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o 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