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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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2._o 3._o etc._n etc._n fabricius_n say_v who_o foresee_v this_o misery_n and_o dissipation_n of_o the_o church_n by_o sacramentary_n
be_v abate_v whereas_o now_o it_o be_v double_v yea_o tripled_a by_o this_o unfaithful_a deal_n and_o so_o the_o last_o error_n will_v be_v worse_o than_o the_o first_o 8._o for_o though_o senensis_n do_v present_o answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o s._n ambrose_n and_o some_o chrysost_n some_o august_n chrysost_n other_o that_o he_o and_o they_o speak_v of_o the_o perfect_a and_o consummate_a felicity_n which_o the_o soul_n expect_v to_o enjoy_v after_o the_o resurrection_n of_o their_o body_n thus_o say_v he_o we_o have_v interpret_v the_o sentence_n of_o ambrose_n aug._n chrysost_o annotat_fw-la 64._o &_o 169._o lib._n 1._o annot_fw-mi 264._o in_o this_o book_n and_o elsewhere_o yet_o d._n field_n suppress_v that_o resolution_n and_o so_o expose_v this_o good_a father_n unto_o the_o mercy_n of_o all_o enemy_n that_o will_v calumniate_v his_o name_n this_o be_v the_o faithfulness_n and_o such_o be_v the_o exactness_n of_o d._n field_n to_o conduct_v his_o reader_n into_o the_o true_a apprehension_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n purpose_n in_o the_o religious_a duty_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a 9_o with_o these_o &_o other_o device_n parallelable_n thereunto_o he_o have_v replenish_v that_o whole_a book_n whole_a 17._o in_o the_o three_o book_n chapter_n wherein_o he_o treatise_v of_o this_o matter_n &_o conclude_v it_o with_o this_o reproachful_a derision_n of_o bellarmine_n true_o i_o be_o weary_a in_o follow_v of_o he_o in_o these_o sense_n less_o foolery_n but_o the_o reverend_a cardinal_n have_v now_o gain_v a_o just_a defence_n for_o himself_o from_o d._n field_n unjust_a accusation_n of_o other_o man_n and_o may_v take_v comfort_n in_o this_o plea_n be_o i_o better_a than_o my_o father_n i_o be_o well_o content_a to_o bear_v my_o part_n in_o their_o fortune_n and_o to_o participate_v in_o their_o disgrace_n yea_o consider_v the_o dignity_n of_o their_o person_n the_o excellency_n of_o our_o common_a cause_n and_o the_o disposition_n of_o he_o who_o stand_v out_o in_o defiance_n of_o i_o and_o it_o and_o they_o i_o regard_v not_o the_o folly_n of_o his_o malice_n but_o i_o compassionate_a the_o misery_n of_o his_o case_n chap._n ii_o d._n field_n accuse_v bellarmine_n unjust_o of_o trifle_v and_o senseless_a foolery_n in_o the_o question_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a calvin_n do_v true_o confess_v that_o the_o protestant_n repugn_v antiquity_n in_o this_o matter_n 1._o let_v the_o reader_n observe_v say_v 97._o say_v pag._n 97._o d._n field_n what_o it_o be_v that_o 9_o that_o de_fw-fr notis_n eccles_n c._n 9_o bellarmine_n be_v to_o prove_v and_o he_o shall_v find_v that_o he_o do_v nothing_o but_o trifle_n for_o he_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o 10._o that_o instit_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 5._o §._o 10._o caluin_n confess_v that_o more_o than_o 1300._o year_n since_o the_o popish_a doctrine_n and_o custom_n of_o payer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v prevail_v and_o be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n throughout_o the_o world_n this_o if_o he_o will_v prove_v he_o must_v argue_v thus_o the_o custom_n of_o pray_v to_o deliver_v the_o soul_n of_o man_n out_o of_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n be_v the_o custom_n and_o practice_v which_o the_o roman_a church_n defend_v and_o caluin_n impugn_v but_o this_o custom_n caluin_n confess_v to_o have_v be_v in_o use_n more_o than_o 1300._o year_n since_o therefore_o caluin_n acknowledge_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v most_o ancient_a and_o to_o have_v be_v receive_v 1300._o year_n ago_o the_o minor_a proposition_n of_o this_o reason_n be_v false_a and_o caluin_n in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o bellarmine_n protest_v against_o it_o most_o constant_o affirm_v that_o the_o father_n know_v nothing_o of_o purgatory_n and_o therefore_o much_o less_o of_o prayer_n to_o deliver_v man_n from_o thence_o so_o he_o 2._o i_o turn_v unto_o the_o disputation_n of_o bellarmine_n where_o he_o proove_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o caluin_n and_o some_o other_o that_o many_o doctrine_n now_o impugn_a by_o the_o protestant_n and_o defend_v by_o the_o catholic_n be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n among_o other_o particularity_n in_o his_o discourse_n the_o cardinal_n allege_v this_o sentence_n of_o john_n caluin_n viz._n it_o be_v receive_v into_o use_n above_o 1300._o year_n ago_o to_o make_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a but_o those_o ancient_n i_o confess_v be_v etc._n be_v abrepti_fw-la in_o errorem_fw-la etc._n etc._n carry_v away_o into_o a_o error_n whence_o it_o follow_v in_o my_o poor_a capacity_n that_o caluin_n do_v confess_v that_o he_o and_o his_o reform_a church_n be_v opposite_a unto_o antiquity_n in_o this_o doctrine_n for_o do_v he_o not_o impute_v it_o unto_o the_o father_n as_o a_o error_n and_o do_v he_o not_o censure_v they_o most_o indign_o in_o this_o behalf_n say_v that_o they_o yield_v herein_o unto_o their_o natural_a affection_n and_o unto_o 337._o unto_o thus_o the_o puritan_n pervert_v the_o testimony_n of_o epiph._n etc._n etc._n &_o say_v they_o write_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n &_o manner_n of_o their_o age_n etc._n etc._n see_v d._n bancroft_n in_o his_o survey_n pag._n 337._o custom_n but_o be_v destitute_a of_o precept_n and_o example_n in_o the_o scripture_n 3._o nay_o he_o go_v yet_o far_o and_o in_o the_o sublimity_n of_o his_o pride_n he_o say_v whereas_o augustine_n report_v that_o monica_n desire_v to_o have_v a_o commemoration_n make_v of_o she_o at_o the_o 13._o the_o confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 13._o altar_n after_o her_o decease_n this_o be_v a_o old_a wife_n request_n which_o the_o son_n never_o examine_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o according_a to_o his_o natural_a affection_n will_v have_v it_o allow_v of_o other_o but_o do_v not_o the_o gentle_a mounseur_fw-fr understand_v or_o do_v he_o not_o regard_v that_o neither_o the_o old_a wife_n as_o his_o eldershipp_n speak_v in_o his_o lucianicall_a vain_a nor_o her_o son_n do_v perform_v any_o thing_n herein_o but_o what_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v warrant_v and_o prescribe_v unto_o they_o do_v he_o not_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v aërian_a heresy_n to_o impugn_v this_o duty_n and_o can_v the_o mother_n or_o the_o son_n neglect_v the_o same_o without_o a_o singular_a offence_n and_o just_a suspicion_n of_o that_o crime_n 4._o wherefore_o though_o caluin_n have_v confess_v his_o dislike_n of_o antiquity_n in_o this_o doctrine_n do_v afterward_o frame_v his_o cunning_a exception_n against_o the_o papist_n and_o derive_v it_o in_o such_o sort_n that_o they_o forsooth_o can_v not_o glory_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o partake_v with_o their_o error_n forasmuch_o as_o she_o affirm_v nothing_o of_o purgatory_n whereof_o they_o dream_v etc._n etc._n yet_o i_o see_v that_o this_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o his_o cog_a art_n and_o dice_a skill_n as_o 59_o as_o caluinus_fw-la jud_n viz._n pag_n 59_o d._n hunnius_n write_v whereby_o he_o elude_v the_o grave_a and_o most_o perspicuous_a scripture_n to_o the_o great_a advantadge_n of_o jew_n arrian_n and_o such_o like_a pestiferous_a enemy_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n again_o as_o sundry_a testimony_n in_o the_o ancient_n do_v assure_v i_o that_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v refer_v unto_o the_o benefitt_a and_o comfort_n of_o their_o soul_n so_o for_o the_o conviction_n of_o protestant_n and_o for_o demonstration_n of_o their_o repugnancy_n unto_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o her_o most_o venerable_a time_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o to_o know_v that_o caluin_n do_v abundant_o declare_v his_o improbation_n thereof_o &_o that_o therefore_o bellarmine_n do_v not_o trifle_n in_o this_o issue_n 5._o for_o we_o must_v distinguish_v here_o betwixt_o this_o action_n which_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o church_n and_o her_o intention_n therein_o caluin_n confess_v the_o first_o and_o litigate_v about_o the_o second_o now_o it_o be_v evident_a unto_o i_o that_o the_o cardinal_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n do_v allege_v he_o precise_o in_o the_o first_o respect_n but_o as_o for_o the_o second_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o far_a dispute_n 6._o that_o this_o be_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o cardinal_n i_o be_v induce_v to_o conceive_v not_o only_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o excellent_a understanding_n but_o also_o by_o a_o plain_n and_o substantial_a overture_n in_o his_o own_o work_n for_o 6._o for_o de_fw-fr purgator_n l._n 1._o c_o 6._o discuss_v the_o question_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a he_o reprove_v caluin_n in_o 4._o point_n first_o because_o he_o condemn_v himself_o by_o his_o own_o mouth_n inasmuch_o as_o he_o free_o agnize_v the_o great_a antiquity_n and_o large_a propagation_n thereof_o and_o yet_o fear_v not_o to_o say_v that_o the_o father_n be_v carry_v away_o into_o a_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n second_o because_o
he_o pretend_v that_o the_o father_n in_o their_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v seek_v to_o express_v a_o kind_a affection_n unto_o they_o but_o intend_v not_o to_o procure_v ease_n unto_o their_o soul_n which_o untruth_n because_o it_o be_v notorious_a and_o suggest_v out_o of_o malice_n bellarmine_n call_v it_o a_o lie_n and_o say_v that_o it_o be_v refute_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o 110._o of_o euchir_n ad_fw-la laur._n c._n 110._o augustine_n himself_o 7._o i_o pretermitt_v the_o two_o other_o point_n it_o be_v a_o copious_a satisfaction_n for_o i_o to_o understand_v that_o bellarmine_n do_v distinguish_v here_o betwixt_o the_o action_n and_o the_o intention_n and_o consequent_o that_o d._n field_n do_v calumniate_v a_o worthy_a person_n to_o defend_v the_o inexcusable_a folly_n of_o our_o genevian_a apostle_n who_o deprave_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o excessive_a liberty_n of_o his_o spirit_n chap._n iii_o d._n field_n do_v nothing_o but_o trifle_n in_o his_o accusation_n of_o bellarmine_n and_o defence_n of_o calvin_n his_o untrue_a construction_n of_o the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n the_o great_a contradiction_n of_o protestant_n in_o this_o point_n be_v all_o guilty_a of_o this_o heresy_n and_o consequent_o no_o catholic_n §._o 1._o d._n field_n refute_v by_o s._n epiphanius_n and_o s._n augustine_n 1._o as_o the_o confession_n of_o caluin_n and_o practice_v of_o our_o congregation_n do_v inform_v i_o that_o the_o protestant_n renounce_v the_o custom_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o whole_o disclaim_v the_o action_n itself_o so_o many_o forcible_a reason_n do_v resolve_v i_o that_o the_o papist_n retain_v the_o action_n do_v likewise_o herein_o preserve_v the_o intention_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n notwithstanding_o the_o gloss_n of_o d._n field_n who_o to_o confirm_v and_o establish_v the_o injury_n which_o he_o have_v already_o do_v unto_o the_o cardinal_n annex_v this_o passage_n immediate_o unto_o the_o 1._o the_o after_o those_o word_n to_o deliver_v man_n from_o thence_o see_v before_o chap._n 2._o num_fw-la 1._o former_a viz._n but_o bellarmine_n will_v reply_v that_o the_o custom_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a be_v most_o ancient_a we_o answer_v the_o custom_n of_o remember_v the_o depart_a name_v their_o name_n at_o the_o holy_a table_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o holy_a mystery_n and_o offer_v the_o eucharist_n that_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n for_o they_o be_v a_o most_o ancient_a and_o godly_a custom_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o way_n dislike_v by_o us._n and_o sure_o it_o appear_v this_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o aerius_n be_v condemn_v of_o heretical_a rashness_n in_o that_o he_o dare_v condemn_v this_o laudable_a and_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o dead_a 2._o how_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o sure_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n &_o c_o behold_v the_o proof_n epiphan_n haeresi_fw-la 75._o but_o sure_o this_o be_v a_o miserable_a proof_n for_o when_o i_o consult_v with_o epiphanius_n i_o find_v that_o our_o forefather_n aërius_n do_v pick_v a_o quarrel_n against_o this_o religious_a duty_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o we_o do_v at_o this_o day_n say_v if_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a may_v be_v profitable_a unto_o the_o dead_a then_o let_v a_o man_n live_v as_o he_o li●t_v only_o let_v he_o procure_v some_o to_o pray_v for_o he_o when_o he_o be_v dead_a ne_fw-la quid_fw-la patiatur_fw-la that_o he_o may_v suffer_v no_o pain_n 3._o here_o i_o consider_v that_o if_o the_o catholic_n church_n against_o which_o aërius_n contend_v in_o the_o vanity_n of_o his_o heart_n do_v not_o believe_v and_o teach_v that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n be_v offer_v and_o prayer_n be_v pour_v forth_o to_o relieve_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a not_o all_o but_o some_o afflict_v with_o temporal_a pain_n the_o exception_n of_o aërius_n be_v senseless_a and_o the_o defence_n of_o epiphanius_n be_v absurd_a for_o as_o the_o first_o do_v object_n that_o opinion_n unto_o the_o church_n so_o the_o second_o deni_v it_o not_o nay_o he_o declare_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a be_v beneficial_a unto_o the_o dead_a 4._o but_o this_o point_n be_v more_o excellent_o clear_v unto_o i_o by_o s._n augustine_n the_o best_a and_o most_o faithful_a witness_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n for_o this_o worthy_a father_n contex_v a_o catalogue_n of_o heresy_n register_v this_o heresy_n among_o the_o rest_n viz._n 53_o haeres_fw-la 53_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v nor_o offer_v sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a a_o fancy_n beget_v by_o aërius_n and_o by_o he_o first_o hatch_v into_o the_o world_n treatise_n see_v the_o peroration_n of_o s._n augustine_n treatise_n 5._o now_o whereas_o quod-vult-deus_a unto_o who_o s._n augustine_n direct_v the_o aforesaid_a catalogue_n desire_v to_o receive_v instruction_n how_o he_o shall_v deport_v himself_o against_o all_o heresy_n and_o what_o opinion_n he_o shall_v intertayn_v thereof_o the_o reverend_a father_n make_v this_o short_a and_o weighty_a answer_n it_o be_v a_o superfluous_a demand_n to_o ask_v what_o the_o catholic_n church_n think_v of_o particular_a of_o as_o namely_o of_o this_o particular_a all_o these_o heresy_n for_o it_o suffice_v thou_o to_o know_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v hold_v and_o maintain_v the_o contrary_a assertion_n unto_o each_o 6._o wherefore_o it_o now_o remain_v that_o i_o shall_v acquaint_v myself_o with_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o her_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a since_o she_o defend_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n unto_o aërius_n in_o these_o laudable_a and_o christian_a office_n as_o s._n augustine_n prescribe_v unto_o his_o well_o respect_a friend_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o success_n of_o my_o study_n and_o meditation_n in_o this_o point_n you_o may_v see_v 4._o see_v book_n 1._o part_n 1._o chap._n 2._o §._o 4._o before_o where_o this_o matter_n be_v more_o particulary_a discuss_v there_o you_o shall_v find_v that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o these_o thing_n be_v precise_o to_o relieve_v some_o soul_n and_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o aërius_n teach_v the_o contrary_a hereunto_o vomit_v out_o this_o heresy_n viz._n we_o must_v not_o pray_v nor_o offer_v sacrifice_n for_o the_o soul_n afflict_v with_o a_o temporal_a pain_n and_o this_o be_v lick_v up_o by_o s._n luther_n our_o great_a reformer_n 8._o thus_o the_o papist_n concur_v with_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o protestant_n join_v hand_n with_o aërius_n to_o deride_v and_o subvert_v the_o same_o and_o now_o i_o perceive_v that_o 3._o that_o ratione_fw-la 3._o edm._n campian_n do_v not_o object_v this_o infelicity_n unto_o we_o without_o a_o grave_a consideration_n and_o necessary_a cause_n viz._n the_o protestant_n be_v enforce_v to_o venditate_fw-la such_o a_o church_n as_o lay_v in_o obscure_a and_o dark_a corner_n unless_o perhaps_o they_o will_v rejoice_v in_o some_o heretical_a progenitour_n aerius_n jovinian_a vigilantius_n berengarius_fw-la etc._n etc._n from_o who_o they_o have_v beg_v the_o fragment_n of_o certain_a pestilent_a opinion_n §._o 2._o how_o some_o protestant_n seem_v to_o defy_v aërius_n and_o how_o other_o yield_v he_o their_o protection_n their_o contradiction_n vanity_n and_o falsehood_n 1._o i_o find_v that_o our_o author_n be_v here_o distract_v into_o variable_a and_o uncertain_a conceit_n some_o in_o their_o subtlety_n dissemble_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o matter_n and_o some_o in_o their_o vanity_n neglect_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o in_o the_o first_o rank_n this_o learned_a doctor_n may_v challenge_v a_o due_a place_n and_o he_o shall_v be_v assist_v with_o his_o compeer_n m._n jewel_n and_o ph._n melancthon_n man_n of_o great_a account_n the_o one_o come_v forth_o with_o this_o plausible_a suggestion_n apolog._n suggestion_n juell_n in_o apolog._n we_o hold_v untrue_o hold_v therefore_o not_o this_o of_o aërius_n but_o here_o you_o speak_v untrue_o none_o of_o those_o 80._o heresy_n which_o be_v mention_v by_o epiphanius_n nor_o any_o of_o those_o which_o be_v record_v by_o augustine_n the_o other_o flourish_v at_o random_n say_v express_o 22._o express_o melancth_v in_o apolog_n augustana_n confess_v art_n 22._o we_o do_v not_o forbid_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o much_o less_o do_v we_o defend_v aërius_n etc._n etc._n 3._o in_o the_o second_o rank_n the_o magdeburgian_o gentleman_n of_o the_o free_a spirit_n that_o ever_o live_v to_o censure_v the_o sacred_a write_v the_o holy_a counsel_n the_o reverend_a father_n and_o all_o antiquity_n in_o ignominious_a sort_n may_v vendicate_v the_o high_a room_n the_o thing_n 401._o thing_n centur._n 4._o c._n ●_o col_fw-fr 401._o say_v these_o good_a fellow_n which_o augustine_n and_o epiphanius_n note_v as_o error_n in_o aerius_n seem_v not_o so_o but_o rather_o the_o contrary_n and_o so_o in_o
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against_o the_o same_o the_o particular_a content_n in_o each_o book_n in_o the_o first_o book_n and_o first_o part_n contain_v the_o doctrinal_a reason_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o purgatory_n prove_v by_o the_o clear_a authority_n of_o scripture_n matth._n 12.32_o §_o 2._o the_o father_n judgement_n touch_v the_o say_a parcel_n of_o holy_a scripture_n §_o 3._o three_o reason_n which_o move_v i_o to_o follow_v the_o doctrinal_a exposition_n of_o the_o father_n rather_o than_o of_o caluin_n luth._o etc._n etc._n chap._n 2._o §_o 1._o of_o a_o trial_n by_o the_o father_n protestant_n in_o england_n condescend_v thereunto_o §_o 2._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n the_o same_o appear_v by_o the_o rule_v assign_v by_o protestant_n to_o know_v what_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n §_o 3._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a &_o purgatory_n do_v mutual_o prove_v each_o other_o §_o 4._o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n unto_o which_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n appeal_v do_v intend_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n to_o relieve_v some_o soul_n depart_v and_o afflict_v with_o temporal_a pain_n §_o 5._o the_o collusion_n of_o d._n field_n in_o deliver_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n in_o her_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 6._o reason_n persuade_v i_o rather_o to_o follow_v s._n august_n &_o the_o ancient_a church_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a congregation_n in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o first_o book_n contain_v the_o moral_a reason_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o the_o providence_n of_o god_n preserve_v a_o visible_a church_n in_o all_o age_n §_o 2._o this_o visible_a church_n be_v free_a from_o damnable_a error_n the_o protestant_n looseness_n and_o confusion_n in_o their_o delineation_n of_o the_o church_n §_o 3._o protestant_n condemn_v purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o heretical_a and_o blasphemous_a §_o 4._o 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world_n to_o come_v 6._o wherefore_o see_v that_o the_o protestant_n exposition_n be_v form_v against_o discretion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o warrantable_a by_o any_o other_o parcel_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v to_o be_v interpret_v in_o this_o manner_n i_o be_v fearful_a to_o be_v entangle_v by_o their_o collusion_n and_o because_o i_o will_v deal_v unpartial_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o such_o consequence_n as_o this_o be_v i_o hold_v a_o very_a indifferent_a course_n whereby_o i_o may_v not_o attribute_v any_o thing_n unto_o my_o own_o judgement_n nor_o yet_o detract_v from_o their_o estimation_n and_o therefore_o i_o remit_v this_o point_n unto_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o bless_a father_n know_v well_o that_o it_o be_v a_o precept_n of_o the_o high_a 32.7_o high_a deut._n 32.7_o ask_v the_o father_n and_o they_o shall_v tell_v thou_o the_o ancient_n and_o they_o shall_v show_v thou_o and_o thus_o do_v d._n toby_n matthew_n apply_v this_o text_n campiani_n text_n see_v d._n humphrey_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la 5._o rat_n edm._n campiani_n when_o he_o flourish_v in_o his_o concionall_a answer_n to_o remove_v that_o disgrace_n which_o 5._o which_o rat._n 5._o edm._n campian_n have_v fasten_v upon_o he_o and_o not_o unjust_o as_o many_o man_n conceive_v 7._o beside_o since_o it_o be_v the_o monition_n of_o s._n 14.32_o s._n 1._o cor._n 14.32_o paul_n that_o the_o spirit_n of_o prophet_n be_v subject_a unto_o the_o prophet_n the_o rule_n of_o equity_n do_v prescribe_v that_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o holy_a write_v the_o few_o shall_v yield_v unto_o the_o most_o and_o the_o late_a unto_o the_o former_a they_o also_o be_v more_o competent_a judge_n to_o determine_v a_o strife_n who_o never_o be_v actor_n personal_o in_o the_o contention_n §._o 2._o the_o father_n judgement_n of_o this_o scripture_n 1._o i_o be_v assure_v by_o d._n 170._o d._n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 170._o field_n that_o s._n
pitiful_a conceit_n wherefore_o i_o direct_v my_o thought_n uto_o these_o 4._o consideration_n which_o here_o ensue_v first_o that_o it_o be_v a_o vanity_n in_o we_o protestant_n sometime_o to_o other_o to_o so_o do_v d._n field_n here_o and_o zanch._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 4._o and_o other_o accept_v this_o liturgy_n as_o compose_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o sometime_o to_o 235._o to_o so_o do_v m._n jewel_n &_o m._n powell_n de_fw-fr antichr_n p._n 235._o reject_v it_o for_o our_o own_o advantadge_n because_o we_o can_v not_o just_o insist_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o author_n by_o way_n of_o proof_n which_o we_o ourselves_o deny_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o he_o for_o though_o it_o have_v force_n against_o he_o that_o admit_v it_o yet_o it_o be_v of_o no_o efficacy_n for_o he_o that_o refuse_v it_o second_o that_o s._n cor._n s._n iwetur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la non_fw-la lachrymis_fw-la sed_fw-la pr●cibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n hom._n 41._o in_o epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n chrysostome_n do_v pray_v and_o exhort_v other_o to_o pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o therefore_o in_o all_o probability_n his_o liturgy_n and_o his_o doctrine_n do_v conspire_v substantial_o in_o this_o issue_n three_o i_o find_v that_o when_o the_o church_n offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n for_o the_o apostle_n martyr_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v by_o way_n of_o missae_fw-la of_o see_v gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 85._o in_o can._n missae_fw-la thanskgiving_n not_o of_o petition_n and_o this_o be_v confirm_v unto_o i_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n viz._n the_o faithful_a do_v know_v by_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o church_n that_o we_o pray_v not_o for_o martyr_n as_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o martyr_n be_v recognize_v by_o we_o as_o citizen_n of_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n but_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o as_o be_v yet_o in_o temporal_a pain_n or_o at_o least_o conceive_v to_o be_v so_o by_o we_o and_o thus_o to_o wit_n respective_o unto_o this_o end_n we_o make_v our_o supplication_n unto_o god_n in_o their_o behalf_n farther_n as_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_o deliver_v say_v place_n say_v parte_fw-la 1._o lect_v 2._o super_fw-la marcum_fw-la see_v biel._n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n gerson_n by_o the_o learned_a divine_n that_o there_o be_v a_o addition_n or_o increase_v of_o accidental_a felicity_n in_o the_o saint_n so_o it_o be_v not_o inconvenient_a if_o in_o this_o respect_n also_o we_o recommend_v they_o unto_o god_n in_o our_o devotion_n 3._o fourthly_a though_o d._n field_n in_o his_o great_a wisdom_n than_o integrity_n do_v conceal_v it_o and_o so_o the_o tempter_n make_v his_o assault_n upon_o our_o saviour_n cast_v thyself_o down_o headlong_o for_o it_o be_v write_v 4._o matth._n 4._o he_o shall_v geve_v his_o angel_n charge_n over_o thou_o that_o thou_o dash_v not_o thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n but_o he_o omit_v a_o principal_a point_n viz._n that_o they_o may_v keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n yet_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o same_o liturgy_n do_v plain_o refute_v his_o pretence_a exposition_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o thus_o he_o say_v by_o the_o supplication_n of_o these_o patriarch_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n have_v respect_n unto_o we_o o_o lord_n like_n if_o d._n field_n will_v stand_v unto_o this_o liturgy_n to_o gather_v the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n by_o it_o he_o must_v admit_v also_o such_o a_o exaltation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o will_v hardly_o stand_v with_o his_o like_n and_o he_o add_v immediate_o remember_v all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v who_o sleep_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o resurrection_n and_o make_v they_o to_o be_v at_o rest_n where_o the_o light_n of_o thy_o countenance_n be_v see_v 4._o thus_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n if_o their_o say_n be_v full_o relate_v and_o true_o weigh_v do_v hold_v a_o just_a correspondency_n herein_o and_o each_o of_o they_o in_o the_o essential_a point_n do_v follow_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o same_o church_n wherefore_o though_o 8._o though_o contra_fw-la henric._n 8._o luther_n do_v base_o esteem_v of_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n and_o cyprian_n if_o they_o be_v repugnant_a unto_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o i_o see_v necessary_a reason_n why_o i_o shall_v prefer_v one_o augustine_n before_o ten_o thousand_o luther_n field_n and_o all_o such_o as_o be_v exorbitant_o carry_v against_o the_o stream_n and_o course_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n §._o 6._o reason_n which_o move_v i_o rather_o to_o believe_v and_o to_o follow_v s._n augustine_n herein_o and_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o his_o time_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a church_n a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part_n with_o a_o admonition_n to_o all_o caluinian_a reader_n 1._o when_o i_o have_v bring_v my_o discourse_n unto_o this_o effect_n as_o you_o have_v already_o see_v i_o consider_v serious_o in_o my_o private_a meditation_n that_o whereas_o we_o protestant_n make_v a_o glorious_a show_n of_o antiquity_n we_o d._n field_n pag._n 47._o assume_v that_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o papist_n note_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o we_o universality_n succession_n etc._n etc._n to_o justify_v our_o religion_n thereby_o it_o will_v prove_v a_o most_o ridiculous_a suggestion_n if_o in_o this_o particular_a itself_o we_o hold_v not_o conformity_n with_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n here_o also_o by_o the_o way_n i_o remember_v that_o s._n 53._o s._n heres_fw-la 53._o augustine_n register_n the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n in_o the_o number_n whereof_o be_v his_o derision_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a conclude_v in_o the_o peroration_n of_o his_o treatise_n that_o whosoever_o maintain_v any_o of_o the_o precedent_a opinion_n he_o be_v not_o a_o catholic_n christian_n 2._o how_o near_o this_o censure_n appertain_v unto_o we_o protestant_n the_o 2._o the_o see_v book_n 2._o part._n 1_o chap._n 2._o sequel_n will_v declare_v mean_a while_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o observe_v with_o i_o how_o plausible_o and_o artificial_o d._n field_n demean_v himself_o to_o escape_v the_o pressure_n of_o that_o difficulty_n which_o be_v to_o heavy_a for_o he_o to_o bear_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a say_v 98._o say_v pag._n 98._o he_o that_o many_o particular_a man_n extend_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 1._o dead_a viz._n then_o he_o have_v deliver_v before_o see_v §._o 5._o num_fw-la 1._o far_o and_o out_o of_o their_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n use_v such_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o i_o think_v dare_v not_o justify_v and_o so_o it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o of_o the_o father_n be_v lead_v into_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o not_o all_o as_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v fall_v from_z the_o truth_n as_o bellarmine_n 3._o bellarmine_n see_n book_n 2._o part._n 1._o chap._n 3._o falfe_o impute_v unto_o caluin_n who_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n 3._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o m._n doctor_n do_v clear_o insinuate_v that_o such_o father_n as_o extend_v this_o religious_a duty_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a beyond_o the_o narrow_a compass_n which_o be_v assign_v by_o 5._o by_o insi_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n 5._o caluin_n and_o 139._o and_o pag._n 98._o &_o 139._o himself_o do_v follow_v a_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n herein_o and_o that_o they_o do_v fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n i_o be_v desirous_a to_o know_v without_o lie_n obscurity_n and_o circuition_n the_o best_a sanctuary_n of_o our_o evil_a cause_n either_o from_o d._n field_n or_o from_o any_o discreet_a protestant_n in_o christendom_n howbeit_o i_o may_v contract_v my_o speech_n and_o say_v in_o europe_n for_o our_o new_a faith_n have_v scarce_o peep_v out_o of_o her_o confine_n whether_o s._n cyrill_n of_o jerusalem_n concur_v absolute_o with_o the_o papist_n in_o this_o point_n 4._o see_v before_o §._o 4._o and_o whether_o s._n augustine_n conspire_v with_o he_o and_o whether_o s._n 18._o s._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr divin_v offic_n c._n 18._o isidore_n consent_v with_o they_o both_o unless_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v believe_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o the_o faithful_a after_o this_o life_n she_o will_v not_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n unto_o god_n for_o their_o soul_n &_o final_o whether_o all_o other_o join_v with_o they_o herein_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n or_o not_o and_o if_o they_o do_v i_o be_v desirous_a to_o see_v what_o one_o man_n there_o be_v beside_o aërian_a heretic_n in_o who_o the_o truth_n be_v visible_o preserve_v 4._o here_o i_o give_v myself_o unto_o a_o long_a and_o earnest_a meditation_n remember_v a_o renown_a sentence_n of_o s._n 118._o epist_n 118._o augustine_n
donatist_n see_v s._n august_n epist_n 48._o and_o say_v nesciebamus_fw-la hîc_fw-la esse_fw-la veritatem_fw-la nec_fw-la eam_fw-la discere_fw-la volebamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o know_v not_o that_o the_o truth_n be_v here_o neither_o will_v we_o learn_v it_o but_o thanks_n be_v unto_o god_n who_o have_v take_v away_o our_o fear_n and_o teach_v we_o by_o experience_n how_o vain_a and_o empty_a those_o suggestion_n be_v which_o lie_v fame_n have_v cast_v out_o against_o his_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o end_n of_o the_o first_o part._n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o first_o book_n contain_v a_o moral_a reason_n which_o persuade_v i_o to_o intertayn_v the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a chap._n i._n the_o providence_n of_o god_n in_o preserve_v a_o visible_a church_n free_a from_o any_o damnable_a error_n do_v confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a §._o 1._o the_o first_o consideration_n touch_v a_o visible_a church_n i_o considere_v first_o that_o god_n have_v promise_v unto_o we_o a_o perpetuity_n of_o his_o church_n both_o by_o his_o son_n and_o servant_n for_o thus_o say_v his_o only_a beget_v 20_o matth._n 2d_o 20_o i_o be_o with_o you_o always_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n 2._o a_o comfortable_a say_n o_o saviour_n jesus_n i_o not_o in_o body_n but_o in_o spirit_n be_o yea_o i_o will_v be_v also_o but_o 8.58_o but_o before_o abraham_n i_o be_o joh._n 8.58_o thus_o i_o express_v myself_o because_o i_o be_o eternal_a and_o immutable_a with_o you_o not_o in_o your_o person_n only_o but_o in_o your_o succession_n for_o ever_o and_o not_o invisible_o by_o grace_n alone_o but_o visible_o also_o in_o a_o sincere_a profession_n of_o the_o truth_n always_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n my_o church_n shall_v endure_v throughout_o all_o generation_n thus_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n make_v unto_o david_n historical_o concern_v his_o seed_n etc._n psal_n 88_o etc._n etc._n be_v refer_v mystical_o unto_o christ_n in_o who_o seed_n to_o wit_n his_o church_n it_o be_v &_o must_v be_v absolute_o perform_v 3._o i_o have_v yet_o a_o far_a assurance_n from_o god_n by_o his_o servant_n 4.11_o ephes_n 4.11_o for_o thus_o say_v s._n paul_n he_o christ_n have_v give_v we_o apostle_n prophet_n evangelist_n man_n of_o extraordinary_a vocation_n in_o the_o beginning_n pastors_n and_o doctor_n man_n of_o ordinary_a vocation_n to_o the_o end_n for_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o saint_n for_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n until_o we_o all_o meet_v in_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n into_o a_o perfect_a man_n into_o the_o measure_n of_o the_o age_n of_o the_o fullness_n of_o christ_n 4._o this_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n i_o know_v to_o be_v diverse_o and_o preposterous_o sense_v as_o well_o by_o the_o whitgift_n the_o m._n cartwright_n against_o d._n whitgift_n presbyterian_o against_o the_o formalist_n as_o by_o the_o kellison_n the_o d._n soteliffe_n against_o d._n kellison_n protestant_n against_o cath._n the_o first_o exclude_v archbish._n &_o the_o second_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n exclude_v the_o pope_n but_o i_o secure_v myself_o in_o the_o true_a and_o genuine_a interpretation_n thereof_o which_o do_v infallible_o and_o clear_o demonstrate_v unto_o i_o these_o two_o point_n first_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n must_v perpetual_o subsist_v without_o decay_n second_o that_o it_o must_v be_v visible_o extant_a without_o obscurity_n and_o concealment_n for_o how_o can_v pastor_n preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o administer_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n where_o people_n be_v not_o assemble_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o gather_v into_o a_o society_n of_o faith_n 5._o as_o for_o the_o example_n of_o eliah_n i_o always_o esteem_v it_o a_o lamentable_a suggestion_n in_o this_o case_n for_o his_o complaint_n 19_o complaint_n 3._o reg._n 19_o i_o be_o leave_v alone_o extend_v only_o unto_o the_o kingdom_n of_o israel_n wherein_o he_o then_o converse_v and_o wherein_o he_o with_o many_o other_o be_v persecute_v by_o jezabell_n under_o ahab_n her_o infortunate_a husband_n but_o at_o the_o same_o time_n the_o law_n be_v read_v the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v pure_a religion_n be_v profess_v and_o protect_v in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o judah_n under_o josaphat_n a_o bless_a prince_n 22.43_o prince_n 3._o reg._n 22.43_o walk_v in_o the_o good_a way_n of_o asa_n his_o father_n this_o josaphat_n suruive_v unto_o the_o 3.2_o the_o 4._o reg._n 3.2_o coronation_n of_o joram_n the_o young_a son_n of_o ahab_n and_o so_o the_o example_n of_o eliah_n can_v not_o be_v of_o any_o force_n to_o defend_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o protestant_n concern_v the_o invisibility_n of_o the_o church_n 6._o wherefore_o see_v how_o d._n 14._o apolog._n cathol_a part_n 1._o lib._n 1._o c._n 14._o morton_n do_v still_o reinforce_v this_o point_n though_o clear_v sufficient_o by_o sundry_a catholic_n even_o in_o the_o confession_n of_o a_o learned_a protestant_n in_o england_n from_o who_o mouth_n i_o receive_v this_o instruction_n many_o year_n ago_o as_o though_o the_o aforesaid_a complaint_n of_o eliah_n pertain_v likewise_o unto_o the_o kingdom_n of_o judah_n i_o do_v often_o and_o great_o wonder_v that_o such_o a_o man_n against_o his_o own_o conscience_n shall_v deal_v so_o fraudulent_o in_o this_o behalf_n for_o first_o he_o say_v that_o lombard_n do_v give_v this_o exposition_n viz._n when_o the_o daughter_n of_o ahab_n be_v marry_v unto_o likewise_o unto_o the_o son_n of_o josaphat_n the_o young_a son_n of_o ahab_n be_v call_v lord_n likewise_o joram_n the_o king_n of_o judah_n than_o all_o the_o jew_n seem_v to_o be_v idolater_n so_o that_o eliah_n think_v himself_o to_o be_v leave_v alone_o and_o upon_o this_o authority_n of_o lombard_n the_o doctor_n build_v his_o exception_n against_o the_o former_a answer_n now_o be_v this_o i_o beseech_v you_o a_o ingenious_a and_o honest_a deportment_n in_o the_o doctor_n thus_o to_o press_v the_o authority_n of_o lombard_n who_o he_o know_v to_o be_v singular_o mistake_v herein_o and_o to_o err_v most_o plain_o against_o the_o historical_a evidence_n of_o sacred_a scripture_n second_o the_o doctor_n be_v please_v to_o colour_n and_o cloak_n the_o say_a exposition_n of_o lombard_n with_o the_o name_n of_o s._n ambrose_n and_o for_o this_o purpose_n he_o frame_v his_o quotation_n in_o the_o margin_n thus_o lombard_n in_o rom._n cap._n 11._o ex_fw-la ambrosio_n but_o i_o find_v that_o as_o s._n ambrose_n have_v not_o one_o syllable_n to_o justify_v this_o exposition_n in_o the_o least_o degree_n so_o peter_n lombard_n himself_o do_v not_o assume_v it_o from_o he_o nor_o once_o use_v his_o name_n therein_o howbeit_o both_o before_o and_o after_o he_o glean_v up_o some_o sentence_n from_o that_o excellent_a father_n be_v this_o a_o faithful_a course_n in_o a_o minister_n of_o simple_a truth_n 7._o renounce_v the_o opinion_n of_o our_o inuisibilist_n as_o a_o impious_a and_o contemptible_a fancy_n i_o embrace_v a_o position_n of_o etc._n of_o pag._n 19_o etc._n etc._n d._n field_n which_o though_o it_o be_v mingle_v with_o some_o corruption_n and_o untruth_n in_o his_o discourse_n yet_o in_o itself_o it_o be_v very_o effectual_a &_o sincere_a the_o church_n can_v not_o be_v invisible_a in_o respect_n of_o profession_n and_o this_o profession_n be_v know_v even_o unto_o the_o profane_a and_o wicked_a of_o the_o world_n again_o it_o can_v not_o be_v but_o that_o they_o church_n apply_v this_o rule_n to_o the_o protestanticall_a church_n who_o be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n must_v by_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n make_v themselves_o know_v in_o such_o sort_n that_o by_o their_o profession_n and_o practice_v they_o may_v be_v discern_v from_o other_o man_n 8._o for_o this_o cause_n s._n augustine_n say_v in_o a_o plain_n and_o familiar_a kind_n of_o speech_n throughout_o see_v the_o 3._o conversion_n of_o england_n part._n 2._o chap._n 1._o throughout_o digito_fw-la ostendimus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la we_o show_v forth_o the_o church_n with_o our_o finger_n in_o this_o place_n and_o in_o that_o here_o she_o be_v conspicuous_a and_o thus_o she_o have_v descend_v unto_o we_o by_o a_o fair_a and_o spectable_a succession_n 9_o non_fw-la sic_fw-la protestant_n non_fw-la sic_fw-la as_o for_o the_o protestant_n it_o be_v not_o so_o with_o they_o their_o church_n be_v hatch_v in_o corner_n and_o enclose_v long_o in_o cymmerian_a darkness_n wherefore_o as_o the_o good_a sinful_a woman_n complain_v mournful_o say_v 20.13_o joh._n 20.13_o they_o have_v take_v away_o my_o lord_n and_o i_o know_v not_o where_o they_o have_v lay_v he_o so_o i_o be_v enforce_v to_o take_v up_o a_o just_a complaint_n against_o all_o novelize_a heretic_n and_o say_v they_o have_v take_v away_o the_o church_n of_o my_o lord_n
3._o example_n lib._n 3._o c._n 3._o s._n irenaeus_n pronounce_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a must_v necessary_o repair_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n why_o for_o she_o be_v of_o more_o powerful_a principallity_n than_o the_o rest_n whence_o be_v that_o because_o she_o be_v found_v by_o the_o two_o glorious_a apostle_n s._n peter_n and_o s._n paul_n against_o the_o plain_n evidence_n whereof_o harding_n whereof_o against_o d._n harding_n m._n jewel_n assume_v that_o irenaeus_n do_v refer_v this_o more_o powerful_a principallity_n unto_o the_o emperor_n and_o unto_o the_o civil_a state_n but_o all_o history_n do_v proclaim_v that_o the_o christian_n be_v cruel_o persecute_v in_o those_o time_n and_o that_o they_o have_v no_o intercouse_n with_o the_o political_a affair_n behold_v also_o a_o other_o example_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n for_o whereas_o 3.15_o whereas_o in_o 1._o timoth_n 3.15_o s_n ambrose_n do_v positive_o affirm_v ibid._n affirm_v answ_n to_o the_o rhem._n testam_fw-la ibid._n that_o damasus_n then_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v rectour_n of_o the_o church_n d._n fulke_o frame_v a_o answer_n to_o this_o effect_n the_o church_n be_v then_o afflict_v with_o arrianisme_n and_o because_o damasus_n do_v oppose_v himself_o eminent_o against_o it_o he_o may_v be_v call_v the_o rectour_n of_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o so_o as_o the_o same_o title_n may_v belong_v also_o unto_o other_o bishopp_n which_o poor_a elusion_n suit_v well_o with_o the_o palpable_a vanity_n of_o m._n cartwright_n just_o reprove_v by_o 27._o by_o survey_v chap._n 27._o d._n bancroft_n in_o this_o behalf_n pretend_v that_o s._n chrysostom_n vigilancy_n over_o the_o church_n of_o pontus_n and_o of_o thracia_n be_v none_o other_o than_o such_o as_o every_o godly_a minister_n ought_v to_o have_v over_o all_o church_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n 6._o wherefore_o i_o shall_v now_o remit_v myself_o unto_o the_o consideration_n of_o all_o wise_a and_o ingenious_a man_n whether_o that_o true_a censure_n which_o ibid._n which_o ibid._n d._n bancroft_n the_o l._n archb._n of_o cant_n have_v pass_v upon_o the_o presbyterian_a faction_n may_v not_o have_v a_o convenient_a application_n unto_o the_o whole_a fraternity_n of_o our_o gospel_n viz._n when_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o sundry_a matter_n impugn_a by_o they_o they_o be_v urdge_v with_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n they_o either_o shift_v they_o off_o with_o their_o own_o false_a gloss_n or_o if_o that_o serve_v not_o their_o turn_n they_o disgrace_v they_o as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v and_o so_o reject_v they_o etc._n etc._n 13._o 2._o sam._n 13._o as_o when_o amnon_n have_v incestuous_o abuse_v his_o sister_n he_o dismiss_v she_o with_o contempt_n chap._n four_o d._n field_n show_v himself_o a_o 16●_n a_o this_o be_v his_o censure_n of_o bellarmine_n pag._n 16●_n notable_a trifler_n in_o the_o question_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o the_o utter_a confusion_n of_o his_o book_n and_o the_o protestanticall_a church_n 1._o no_o particular_a in_o d._n field_n high_o esteem_v book_n do_v more_o lively_o discover_v unto_o i_o the_o just_a correspondency_n betwixt_o his_o cause_n and_o conscience_n than_o this_o which_o now_o ensue_v but_o for_o the_o more_o clear_a and_o perfect_a understanding_n hereof_o i_o must_v entreat_v you_o gentle_a reader_n to_o reflect_v upon_o the_o 2._o the_o chap._n 1._o §._o 1._o num_fw-la 1._o &_o 2._o precedent_n and_o diligent_o to_o review_v what_o be_v the_o pith_n and_o quintessence_n of_o his_o book_n and_o wherein_o it_o do_v consist_v for_o you_o must_v remember_v that_o as_o the_o strength_n of_o samson_n lie_v in_o his_o hair_n 16._o judic._n 16._o so_o the_o supportation_n of_o d._n fields_n church_n and_o book_n stand_v chief_o in_o this_o issue_n viz._n 74._o viz._n d._n field_n pag._n 74._o the_o thing_n whereupon_o the_o difference_n grow_v betwixt_o the_o romish_a faction_n and_o we_o be_v never_o receive_v general_o by_o the_o church_n 2._o the_o several_a point_n of_o difference_n as_o be_v most_o material_a he_o lay_v down_o to_o the_o number_n of_o twenty_o and_o seven_o in_o a_o 3._o a_o chap._n 7._o book_n 3._o chapter_n frame_v to_o this_o purpose_n where_o he_o assign_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o romish_a faction_n and_o the_o reform_a church_n touch_v 75._o touch_v it_o be_v the_o one_o and_o twenty_o point_n pag._n 75._o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a precise_o in_o these_o word_n that_o church_n wherein_o our_o father_n live_v and_o die_v do_v not_o hold_v the_o torment_a of_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o salvation_n in_o a_o part_n of_o hell_n hundred_n of_o year_n by_o devil_n in_o corporal_a fire_n out_o of_o which_o prayer_n shall_v deliver_v they_o wherefore_o in_o the_o 21._o the_o chap._n 21._o appendix_n unto_o which_o he_o reserve_v the_o proof_n of_o all_o his_o assertion_n deliver_v in_o this_o chapter_n he_o accommodate_v his_o stile_n in_o this_o manner_n touch_v purgatory_n whether_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v purdge_v be_v purgd_v by_o 11._o by_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr purg._n l._n 2._o c._n 11._o material_a fire_n or_o no_o it_o be_v doubtful_a likewise_o touch_v the_o 6._o the_o ibid._n c._n 6._o place_n the_o roman_a church_n have_v define_v nothing_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o more_o certainty_n touch_v the_o 9_o the_o ibid._n c._n 9_o continuance_n of_o sinful_a soul_n in_o their_o purgation_n etc._n etc._n thus_o than_o we_o see_v that_o notwithstanding_o any_o thing_n define_v in_o the_o church_n the_o soul_n of_o gregory_n of_o of_o some_o but_o not_o of_o all._n remember_v your_o deal_n with_o s_n gregory_n man_n may_v be_v purdge_v from_o all_o the_o dross_n of_o sinful_a remainder_n and_o free_v from_o all_o punishment_n in_o the_o very_a moment_n of_o dissolution_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n that_o we_o say_v 3._o i_o deal_v not_o now_o with_o the_o conclusion_n which_o m._n doctor_n have_v artificial_o draw_v out_o of_o his_o premise_n but_o i_o come_v unto_o his_o poynt-devise_a itself_o and_o the_o detection_n thereof_o whereby_o the_o very_a sinew_n of_o his_o book_n and_o church_n be_v cut_n in_o sunder_o and_o dissolve_v 4._o whereas_o his_o promise_n be_v to_o explicate_v what_o those_o thing_n be_v whereupon_o the_o difference_n grow_v betwixt_o the_o romish_a faction_n and_o we_o &_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o say_v thing_n wherein_o this_o difference_n now_o stand_v betwixt_o we_o be_v never_o entertain_v by_o the_o church_n but_o only_o by_o some_o particular_a man_n he_o yield_v not_o the_o true_a difference_n in_o this_o matter_n nor_o propose_v the_o question_n as_o in_o learning_n and_o honesty_n it_o become_v so_o grave_a a_o man_n and_o special_o have_v thus_o oblige_v himself_o thereunto_o by_o a_o extraordinary_a venditation_n for_o your_o ingenuity_n will_v acknowledge_v that_o whereas_o in_o this_o dispute_n and_o so_o in_o many_o more_o we_o must_v distinguish_v the_o matter_n of_o substance_n from_o matter_n of_o circumstance_n forasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o have_v fundamental_a unity_n in_o the_o first_o howsoever_o there_o may_v be_v accidental_a diversity_n in_o the_o second_o the_o matter_n of_o substance_n here_o be_v precise_o this_o viz._n whether_o after_o this_o life_n a_o temporal_a pain_n be_v inflict_v upon_o some_o soul_n or_o not_o the_o matter_n of_o circumstance_n be_v whether_o hell_n be_v the_o place_n whether_o fire_n be_v the_o instrument_n whether_o devil_n be_v the_o tormentor_n whether_o the_o duration_n of_o this_o pain_n be_v 10._o 20._o 100_o year_n etc._n etc._n 5._o the_o point_n controverse_v betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n herein_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o substance_n and_o thereupon_o the_o difference_n do_v arise_v for_o the_o question_n be_v a_o sit_z whether_o simple_o there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n not_o quid_fw-la sit_fw-la whether_o it_o be_v of_o this_o or_o that_o quality_n and_o nature_n it_o be_v de_fw-fr subjecto_fw-la whether_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n after_o this_o life_n not_o the_o praedicato_fw-la of_o those_o particular_n which_o belong_v thereunto_o we_o all_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o hell_n wherein_o the_o devil_n and_o reprobate_n shall_v drink_v their_o full_a in_o the_o cup_n of_o everlasting_a wrath_n but_o where_o the_o design_a place_n or_o what_o the_o instrument_n of_o sensible_a pain_n be_v etc._n etc._n we_o may_v probable_o collect_v we_o can_v not_o clear_o define_v or_o to_o instance_n in_o a_o more_o gracious_a and_o comfortable_a subject_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o consider_v how_o we_o all_o believe_v that_o our_o lord_n jesus_n do_v suffer_v and_o die_v and_o be_v bury_v and_o arise_v and_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n but_o with_o what_o kind_n of_o whip_n he_o be_v scourdge_v at_o what_o age_n he_o decease_v how_o many_o
hour_n he_o lie_v in_o the_o grave_n etc._n etc._n we_o may_v conjecture_v we_o can_v determine_v we_o have_v semblable_a reason_n but_o no_o invincible_a proof_n 6._o wherefore_o d._n field_n have_v not_o propound_v unto_o we_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o protestant_n and_o catholic_n but_o that_o difference_n alone_o which_o be_v mere_o betwixt_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o who_o teach_v most_o consonant_o uniform_o and_o perpetual_o that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o temporal_a pain_n inflict_v in_o the_o future_a life_n thus_o they_o grant_v the_o thing_n itself_o and_o presuppose_v it_o as_o analytic_a as_o poster_n analytic_a aristotle_n say_v that_o subiectum_fw-la must_v be_v praecognitum_fw-la the_o subject_n must_v be_v foreknowen_a and_o admit_v before_o we_o will_v demonstrate_v any_o thing_n upon_o the_o same_o and_o then_o afterward_o they_o dispute_v concern_v other_o accidental_a point_n such_o as_o be_v here_o remember_v by_o d._n field_n and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o the_o liberty_n of_o school_n which_o may_v well_o consist_v with_o the_o purity_n of_o religion_n it_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o wit_n without_o destruction_n of_o faith_n the_o sun_n delight_v to_o run_v his_o course_n as_o a_o giant_n 18.6_o psal_n 18.6_o and_o yet_o he_o never_o exceed_v his_o annual_a or_o diurnal_a confine_n for_o he_o know_v his_o rise_n 103.19_o psal_n 103.19_o and_o his_o go_v down_o likewise_o the_o catholic_n may_v liberal_o expatiate_v in_o these_o point_n provide_v always_o that_o they_o contain_v themselves_o within_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o compass_n of_o approve_a truth_n otherwise_o 2.37_o 2._o reg._n 2.37_o as_o it_o be_v death_n for_o shemei_n to_o transgress_v the_o precinct_n assign_v unto_o he_o by_o solomon_n so_o it_o be_v at_o their_o peril_n if_o they_o go_v beyond_o the_o limit_n which_o the_o spouse_n of_o the_o wise_a solomon_n have_v prescribe_v in_o this_o case_n 7._o 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soil_n be_v fertile_a the_o situation_n pleasant_a and_o the_o air_n healthful_a i_o will_v prevent_v he_o and_o say_v sir_n there_o be_v no_o such_o country_n and_o therefore_o your_o demand_n of_o the_o fertility_n pleasure_n and_o healthfulness_n be_v superfivous_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n 8._o thus_o i_o be_v now_o sufficient_o instruct_v to_o perceive_v that_o though_o d._n field_n do_v glory_n in_o these_o position_n viz._n the_o thing_n whereupon_o the_o difference_n grow_v betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o romish_a faction_n be_v never_o receive_v general_o by_o the_o church_n and_o dedicat_fw-la and_o see_v his_o ep_n dedicat_fw-la the_o thing_n which_o papist_n now_o publish_v as_o article_n of_o faith_n purgatory_n be_v in_o that_o number_n be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n wherein_o they_o and_o we_o viz._n waldensians_n albigensian_o lutheran_n etc._n etc._n who_o be_v sometime_o actual_a and_o true_a member_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n live_v together_o in_o one_o church_n one_o that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o our_o father_n wickliff_n luther_n &c._n &c._n be_v papist_n &_o not_o separate_v from_o the_o visible_a communion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n communion_n yet_o he_o do_v miserable_o collude_v herein_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n which_o in_o so_o principal_a a_o author_n throw_v down_o his_o gauntlet_n of_o defiance_n in_o such_o manner_n be_v a_o very_a lamentable_a case_n 9_o for_o where_o be_v that_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a communion_n who_o deny_v purgatory_n or_o show_v any_o doubtfulness_n therein_o against_o the_o essential_a doctrine_n in_o which_o the_o true_a difference_n betwxit_fw-la the_o papist_n and_o protestant_n do_v stand_v most_o eminent_o at_o this_o day_n i_o do_v employ_v much_o time_n i_o search_v into_o the_o volume_n of_o antiquity_n i_o neglect_v no_o mean_n to_o gain_n all_o possible_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o thing_n and_o yet_o i_o can_v not_o find_v so_o much_o as_o the_o shadow_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o see_v before_o pag._n 54._o etc._n etc._n how_o purgatory_n have_v be_v deny_v and_o by_o who_o by_o who_o this_o particular_a be_v impugn_a unless_o he_o be_v in_o the_o number_n of_o such_o as_o depart_v from_o the_o visible_a society_n of_o the_o church_n 10_o thus_o necessity_n compel_v i_o to_o infer_v that_o d._n field_n have_v disable_v his_o own_o book_n and_o overthrow_v his_o church_n papist_n may_v triumph_v in_o the_o victory_n which_o their_o chief_a enemy_n have_v wrought_v in_o their_o behalf_n yea_o they_o may_v joyful_o applaud_v the_o excellency_n of_o their_o cause_n which_o enforce_v her_o great_a adversary_n to_o prostitute_v themselves_o unto_o such_o base_a and_o dishonest_a course_n 7._o confess_v l._n 5._o c._n 7._o 11._o final_o therefore_o as_o s._n augustine_n be_v in_o despair_n to_o receive_v contentment_n from_o any_o manichee_n when_o faustus_n the_o most_o renown_a in_o that_o sect_n yield_v no_o sufficient_a 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among_o themselves_o say_v m._n rogers_n about_o the_o time_n which_o
they_o that_o be_v torment_v shall_v abide_v in_o purgatory_n for_o some_o have_v give_v out_o how_o the_o poor_a soul_n there_o be_v continual_o in_o torment_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n as_o 7._o as_o de_fw-fr offic_n mort_fw-fr l._n 7._o diony_n carthusianus_n other_o as_o 7._o as_o de_fw-fr offic_n mort_fw-fr l._n 7._o durandus_n noviss_n de_fw-fr 4._o noviss_n do_v think_v that_o they_o have_v rest_n sometime_o as_o upon_o sunday_n and_o holy_a day_n other_o be_v of_o mind_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v set_v free_a and_o at_o liberty_n because_o their_o punishment_n be_v but_o temporal_a etc._n etc._n 2._o here_o be_v a_o ample_a testimony_n of_o a_o unfaithful_a heart_n for_o whereas_o this_o man_n of_o great_a experience_n be_v please_v to_o affirm_v that_o some_o papist_n imprison_v the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n until_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o that_o by_o this_o opinion_n they_o dissent_v from_o other_o who_o conceive_v that_o their_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o such_o perpetuity_n and_o length_n he_o offer_v a_o general_a injury_n unto_o they_o all_o and_o more_o particular_o unto_o that_o author_n who_o he_o allege_v to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v most_o untrue_a that_o carthusianus_n do_v deliver_v such_o a_o fancy_n or_o that_o he_o be_v of_o such_o opinion_n witness_v that_o little_a treatise_n de_fw-la modo_fw-la liberandi_fw-la animam_fw-la è_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la witness_v his_o clear_a assertion_n that_o soul_n 30._o soul_n dialog_n de_fw-fr particulari_fw-la iudicio_fw-la any_fw-la i_o cap._n 30._o be_v cleanse_v in_o purgatory_n mount_v up_o and_o fly_v into_o the_o celestial_a paradise_n etc._n etc._n 3._o what_o evidence_n therefore_o have_v m._n rogers_n to_o justify_v this_o imputation_n i_o find_v none_o but_o this_o ensue_a noviss_n de_fw-fr 4._o noviss_n dionysius_n report_v a_o certain_a vision_n of_o a_o englishman_n who_o behold_v a_o soul_n grievous_o afflict_v in_o a_o place_n of_o torment_n from_o which_o he_o 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doubtful_a of_o your_o truth_n for_o i_o have_v diligent_o and_o careful_o revolue_v the_o author_n and_o yet_o i_o find_v no_o such_o assertion_n in_o all_o that_o book_n peradventure_o you_o rely_v upon_o they_o who_o lie_v unto_o you_o and_o so_o you_o have_v tell_v a_o tale_n after_o a_o crete_n as_o for_o example_n you_o 115._o you_o pag._n 115._o affirm_v that_o if_o hierome_n have_v not_o be_v at_o chalcedon_n that_o council_n have_v err_v what_o be_v your_o proof_n b._n jewel_n det_fw-la fol._n 58._o though_o here_o your_o experience_n do_v fail_v you_o for_o s._n hierome_n be_v gather_v unto_o his_o father_n many_o year_n before_o the_o celebration_n of_o that_o council_n yet_o your_o great_a fault_n be_v your_o credulity_n in_o believe_v b._n jewel_n upon_o his_o naked_a word_n which_o have_v be_v the_o destruction_n of_o many_o soul_n §._o 2._o s._n gregory_n note_v for_o a_o papist_n by_o m._n rogers_n how_o eckius_fw-la be_v abuse_v by_o he_o 1._o papist_o agree_v not_o 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my_o heart_n even_o while_o i_o be_v a_o member_n actual_o of_o the_o protestanticall_a church_n that_o in_o my_o secret_a thought_n i_o can_v not_o but_o acquitt_v the_o papist_n from_o the_o crime_n of_o disobedience_n and_o undutifulnesse_n unto_o the_o state_n forasmuchas_fw-es they_o make_v not_o themselves_o contrary_a unto_o it_o but_o it_o be_v make_v contrary_a unto_o they_o the_o change_v be_v in_o the_o state_n which_o propound_v a_o new_a faith_n &_o not_o in_o they_o who_o conserve_v the_o old_a and_o so_o much_o brief_o touch_v the_o popery_n of_o that_o illustrious_a saint_n 3._o as_o for_o the_o particular_a wherewith_o he_o be_v chardged_a by_o m._n rogers_n it_o be_v no_o shame_n nor_o disreputation_n unto_o he_o 16._o he_o tom._n 10._o homil_n 16._o s._n augustine_n himself_o be_v no_o less_o deep_o engage_v therein_o say_v that_o there_o idle_a speech_n evil_a and_o sordid_a thought_n and_o the_o multitude_n of_o light_a sin_n which_o infect_v the_o purity_n of_o 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rogers_n do_v abuse_v his_o author_n and_o deceive_v his_o reader_n for_o the_o position_n of_o b._n of_o see_v tom._n 1._o luh_o wittember_n fol._n 241._o b._n eckius_fw-la be_v this_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n do_v satisfy_v for_o the_o pain_n of_o sin_n from_o the_o guilt_n whereof_o they_o be_v absolve_v before_o and_o make_v not_o satisfaction_n in_o this_o life_n so_o than_o it_o be_v a_o falsehood_n in_o m._n rogers_n to_o pretend_v that_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o eckius_fw-la mortal_a sin_n be_v purge_v etc._n etc._n for_o eckius_fw-la affirm_v that_o the_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o &_o consequent_o the_o sin_n itself_o there_o remain_v a_o temporal_a pain_n to_o be_v inflict_v upon_o the_o soul_n for_o better_a illustration_n of_o which_o point_n it_o may_v please_v thou_o gentle_a reader_n to_o observe_v with_o i_o that_o as_o by_o mortal_a sin_n we_o be_v oblige_v unto_o a_o double_a penalty_n to_o wit_n eternal_a &_o temporal_a so_o whensoever_o the_o guilt_n be_v pardon_v the_o eternal_a which_o be_v most_o proper_o consequent_a unto_o it_o be_v pardon_v likewise_o but_o not_o the_o temporal_a thus_o the_o prophet_n give_v david_n his_o absolution_n thy_o sin_n be_v forgive_v add_v also_o thou_o shall_v not_o die_v 12_o 2._o reg._n 12_o and_o yet_o he_o impose_v a_o penance_n to_o wit_n the_o child_n shall_v die_v the_o reason_n whereof_o be_v this_o 2._o this_o see_v how_o bell●rmine_n press_v this_o against_o caluin_n in_o his_o four_o book_n de_fw-fr penitent_a cap._n 2._o because_v thou_o have_v make_v the_o enemy_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o blaspheme_v &_o so_o it_o be_v a_o affliction_n for_o sin_n past_a &_o not_o only_o a_o caution_n against_o sin_n to_o come_v for_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o god_n do_v rather_o intend_v the_o safety_n of_o his_o child_n than_o the_o punishment_n of_o their_o sin_n yet_o he_o punish_v sin_n in_o his_o
child_n &_o the_o pain_n be_v more_o durable_a than_o the_o fault_n as_o joh._n as_o tract_n 124._o joh._n s._n augustine_n speak_v lest_o the_o fault_n shall_v seem_v small_a if_o the_o pain_n be_v finish_v with_o it_o 6._o now_o as_o the_o temporal_a pain_n of_o sin_n be_v just_o reserve_v after_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n so_o it_o be_v not_o always_o inflict_v in_o this_o life_n 13._o de_fw-fr civit._n d●l_n 21._o c._n 13._o but_o sometime_o in_o the_o next_o wherefore_o s._n augustine_n confess_v that_o god_n do_v design_n poenas_fw-la temporarias_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la praeteritis_fw-la distinguish_v immediate_o and_o say_v poenas_fw-la temporarias_fw-la alij_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la vit_fw-mi a_o tantùm_fw-la alij_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la alij_fw-la &_o hîc_fw-la &_o illîc_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la 7._o thus_o i_o find_v a_o double_a reason_n of_o purgatory_n the_o first_o because_o some_o small_a sin_n wherewith_o grace_n may_v consist_v in_o the_o soul_n be_v there_o expiate_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o guilt_n and_o pain_n the_o second_o because_o some_o temporal_a pain_n reserve_v by_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n after_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o guilt_n by_o his_o mercy_n be_v there_o sustain_v by_o they_o who_o have_v not_o be_v exercise_v with_o condign_a penance_n in_o this_o life_n and_o here_o arise_v a_o proper_a solution_n unto_o the_o subtlety_n of_o d._n field_n 103._o see_v before_o pag._n 103._o who_o will_v conclude_v that_o if_o all_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o which_o be_v the_o cause_n the_o effect_n must_v cease_v which_o be_v punishment_n etc._n etc._n for_o though_o the_o obligation_n unto_o eternal_a punishment_n cease_v actual_o upon_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n yet_o the_o obligation_n unto_o temporal_a punishment_n do_v remain_v by_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n &_o his_o ordinance_n concur_v with_o our_o desert_n be_v a_o sufficient_a cause_n to_o produce_v such_o effect_n therefore_o till_o his_o justice_n be_v satisfy_v the_o cause_n of_o punishment_n do_v still_o endure_v 8._o to_o conclude_v whereas_o m._n rogers_n will_v enforce_v a_o absurdity_n upon_o eckius_fw-la &_o other_o man_n as_o though_o they_o be_v distract_v into_o great_a variety_n of_o opinion_n concern_v the_o cause_n of_o purgatory_n he_o misreport_v their_o intention_n for_o though_o some_o few_o man_n do_v conceive_v that_o all_o venial_a sin_n be_v waste_v and_o take_v away_o from_o the_o soul_n immediate_o upon_o her_o separation_n from_o the_o body_n yet_o i_o see_v that_o they_o and_o all_o other_o papist_n to_o speak_v in_o my_o old_a language_n do_v concordable_o and_o uniform_o teach_v that_o no_o mortal_a sin_n such_o as_o 146._o as_o see_v d._n field_n pag._n 146._o exclude_v grace_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o 69._o and_o see_v s._n au._n enchirid._n ad_fw-la laur._n c._n 69._o exclude_v the_o soul_n from_o heaven_n be_v purdge_v after_o this_o life_n otherwise_o then_o in_o reference_n unto_o temporal_a pain_n 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it_o etc._n etc._n 2._o after_o this_o obscure_a and_o uncertayn_a oracle_n he_o resolve_v most_o plain_o that_o he_o and_o his_o church_n will_v not_o digress_v from_o aërius_n in_o this_o point_n and_o therefore_o he_o add_v we_o do_v not_o disapprove_v that_o which_o aërius_n think_v and_o augustine_n have_v relate_v that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o pray_v nor_o to_o offer_v oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a because_o this_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o any_o precept_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o mortuis_fw-la which_o he_o quote_v aug._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la augustine_n also_o do_v seem_v to_o signify_v when_o he_o say_v that_o this_o commendation_n of_o the_o dead_a ●s_n a_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n thus_o aërius_n be_v iustify_v against_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o his_o heresy_n be_v prefer_v before_o the_o catholic_a faith_n but_o of_o this_o matter_n i_o have_v entreat_v more_o particular_o he_o particular_o pag._n 14._o i_o want_v d._n hunfrey_n his_o book_n when_o i_o cite_v his_o opinion_n which_o i_o have_v faithful_o deliver_v &_o though_o the_o word_n rectè_fw-la be_v not_o in_o my_o author_n yet_o it_o i●_n sufficient_o imply_v in_o he_o before_o 3._o the_o thing_n which_o i_o yield_v now_o unto_o your_o consideration_n be_v the_o subtle_a and_o artificial_a collusion_n of_o this_o renown_a doctor_n for_o whereas_o he_o pretend_v scripture_n negative_o against_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o s._n augustine_n have_v only_a custom_n to_o maintain_v it_o i_o find_v that_o s._n augustine_n premise_v scripture_n in_o defence_n thereof_o &_o then_o confirm_v it_o by_o that_o authority_n which_o to_o 118._o to_o epist_n 118._o impugn_v be_v the_o part_n of_o most_o insolent_a madness_n for_o 1._o for_o de_fw-fr curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mort_fw-fr cap._n 1._o say_v he_o we_o read_v in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o 4●_n the_o 2._o 12._o 4●_n maccabee_n that_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a but_o if_o this_o be_v read_v no_o where_o in_o the_o old_a
s._n cypriaen_n do_v record_v it_o that_o there_o be_v one_o god_n one_o christ_n one_o holy_a ghost_n and_o that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v one_o bishop_n in_o the_o catholic_n church_n not_o one_o without_o other_o but_o one_o above_o other_o as_o s._n 84._o s._n epist_n 84._o leo_n the_o pope_n write_v unto_o a_o grecian_a bishop_n we_o have_v call_v thou_o in_o partem_fw-la solicitudinis_fw-la non_fw-la in_o plenitudinem_fw-la potestatis_fw-la into_o a_o part_n of_o our_o care_n not_o into_o the_o fullness_n of_o our_o power_n and_o this_o sentence_n 3._o sentence_n de_fw-fr considerate_a l._n 3._o s._n bernard_n bring_v unto_o the_o consideration_n of_o eugenius_n the_o pope_n sometime_o his_o praefat_fw-la his_o ibid._n l._n 1._o praefat_fw-la son_n by_o institution_n but_o now_o his_o father_n in_o administration_n of_o the_o church_n to_o conclude_v the_o inequality_n of_o all_o other_o bishopp_n be_v by_o humane_a law_n the_o pope_n superiority_n be_v by_o divine_a right_n 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d●un_fw-la ips●m_fw-la esse●m_fw-la coelis_fw-la etc._n etc._n m._n powell_n protestation_n in_o the_o first_o leaf_n in_o his_o book_n papam_fw-la &_o papatum_fw-la oderit_fw-la i_o will_v not_o ask_v m._n powell_n by_o what_o authority_n he_o have_v canonize_v martin_n luther_n for_o i_o know_v that_o he_o have_v a_o warrant_n from_o z_o luther_n himself_o say_v jam_fw-la by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n one_o of_o the_o true_a saint_n wherefore_o as_o the_o athenian_n make_v a_o decree_n quoniam_fw-la alexander_n vult_fw-la esse_fw-la deus_fw-la esco_o so_o since_o luther_n will_v be_v a_o saint_n let_v he_o be_v so_o by_o my_o consent_n 9_o but_o now_o for_o the_o correspondency_n betwixt_o gerson_n and_o luther_n the_o second_o effectuate_a that_n which_o the_o first_o desire_v if_o you_o will_v believe_v d._n field_n in_o their_o reformation_n consider_v i_o beseech_v you_o the_o resemblance_n and_o similitude_n of_o these_o thing_n he_o that_o reject_v the_o pope_n shall_v not_o 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beatitude_n in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o saint_n what_o and_o yet_o have_v luther_n accomplish_v that_o reformation_n which_o gerson_n do_v expect_v risum_fw-la teneatis_fw-la amici_fw-la 10._o i_o will_v knit_v up_o this_o matter_n with_o the_o counsel_n of_o ecclesiae_fw-la of_o part_n 1._o the_o eupt_a ●hri●●_n &_o ecclesiae_fw-la gerson_n which_o he_o prescribe_v unto_o the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n say_v the_o church_n must_v entreat_v the_o pope_n the_o vicegerent_n of_o christ_n in_o etc._n in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v vicarius_fw-la christi_fw-la by_o spiritual_a influence_n etc._n etc._n external_a administration_n with_o all_o honour_n and_o call_v he_o father_z for_o he_o be_v her_o lord_n and_o head_n we_o may_v not_o expose_v he_o unto_o detraction_n etc._n etc._n and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o he_o make_v his_o protestation_n nolo_fw-la de_fw-la sanctissimo_fw-la domino_fw-la nostre_fw-fr &_o christo_fw-la domini_fw-la velut_fw-la os_fw-la in_o coelum_fw-la ponendo_fw-la loqui_fw-la i_o will_v not_o speak_v of_o our_o most_o holy_a lord_n and_o the_o lord_n anoint_a as_o it_o be_v by_o set_v my_o face_n against_o heaven_n but_o do_v the_o cham_n of_o saxony_n thus_o demean_v himself_o towards_o his_o spiritual_a father_n no_o but_o set_v his_o face_n against_o heaven_n he_o utter_v the_o word_n of_o blasphemy_n and_o intolerable_a reproach_n against_o all_o dignity_n withstand_v his_o violence_n papal_a imperial_a and_o regal_a and_o thus_o he_o discover_v himself_o to_o be_v guide_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o aerius_n concern_v who_o it_o be_v 75._o be_v epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 75._o report_v that_o ipsi_fw-la sermo_fw-la furiosus_fw-la magis_fw-la quàm_fw-la erat_fw-la humana_fw-la conditionis_fw-la do_v not_o 64._o not_o pag._n 64._o d._n field_n also_o approximate_a unto_o they_o both_o we_o have_v not_o receive_v say_v he_o the_o mark_n of_o this_o antichrist_n the_o pope_n and_o child_n of_o perdition_n in_o our_o forehead_n nor_o swear_v to_o take_v the_o foam_n of_o his_o impure_a mouth_n and_o froth_n of_o his_o word_n of_o blasphemy_n true_o you_o never_o learn_v this_o tempestuous_a language_n from_o your_o worthy_a guide_n but_o from_o your_o great_a reformer_n 11._o i_o have_v insist_v long_o in_o the_o particular_a evidence_n wherefore_o i_o will_v deal_v more_o brief_o in_o the_o general_n out_o of_o which_o i_o have_v select_v these_o two_o ensue_a 12._o the_o first_o concern_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n a_o qva_fw-la certitudo_fw-la fidei_fw-la petenda_fw-la est_fw-la say_v 5._o say_v part._n 1._o serm._n coram_fw-la alexandro_n papa_n 5._o gerson_n from_o whence_o we_o must_v receive_v the_o certainty_n of_o our_o faith_n from_o thence_o we_o englishmen_n receive_v our_o faith_n by_o the_o vigilancy_n of_o s._n gregory_n the_o glorious_a pope_n of_o bless_a memory_n for_o ever_o from_o thence_o the_o britanne_n receive_v their_o faith_n in_o their_o second_o conversion_n by_o the_o fatherly_a provision_n of_o eleutherius_fw-la a_o renown_a martyr_n from_o thence_o the_o indian_n and_o sundry_a people_n who_o sit_v in_o darkness_n and_o shadow_n of_o death_n have_v late_o receive_v the_o abundant_a light_n of_o the_o gospel_n mean_a while_n the_o protestant_n disseminate_a do_v disseminate_a see_v tertull_n prescript_n cap._n 42._o old_a heretic_n follow_v the_o same_o course_n as_o protestant_n now_o do_v heresy_n at_o home_n and_o revile_v they_o who_o plant_v the_o catholic_n religion_n abroad_o 12._o now_o for_o this_o particular_a assertion_n deliver_v here_o by_o the_o worthy_a guide_n of_o god_n church_n i_o will_v remit_v i_o unto_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o discreet_a and_o ingenious_a reader_n to_o take_v a_o resolution_n from_o his_o own_o heart_n whether_o gerson_n or_o any_o man_n who_o maintain_v the_o same_o principle_n with_o he_o can_v tolerate_v the_o protestanticall_a reformation_n which_o be_v rear_v up_o against_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o found_v in_o the_o ruin_n thereof_o 14._o the_o segond_n general_a evidence_n be_v yet_o more_o potent_a and_o effectual_a than_o the_o rest_n for_o it_o shall_v now_o sensible_o appear_v unto_o you_o that_o gerson_n damn_v your_o article_n and_o detest_v the_o true_a progenitour_n of_o your_o gospel_n observe_v therefore_o a_o memorable_a protestation_n of_o this_o worthy_a guide_n constant_n guide_n part._n 3._o dialog_n apoget_n de_fw-fr council_n constant_n the_o council_n of_o constance_n be_v celebrate_v especial_o for_o the_o extirpation_n of_o religion_n of_o protestant_n religion_n heresy_n and_o error_n which_o be_v attempt_v first_o by_o imprison_v the_o offender_n and_o by_o commit_v some_o of_o they_o husse_n and_o jerome_n of_o prage_n unto_o the_o fire_n the_o bohemian_o exhibit_v 45._o error_n of_o wickliff_n unto_o the_o council_n the_o english_a man_n bring_v in_o more_o than_o 200._o for_o the_o condemnation_n whereof_o i_o be_v as_o 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do_v never_o loose_a grace_n also_o and_o consequent_o he_o do_v never_o sin_n mortal_o because_o a_o mortal_a sin_n exclude_v inherent_a exclude_v grace_n inherent_a grace_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o this_o i_o will_v prove_v unto_o you_o by_o d._n field_n who_o 176._o who_o pag._n 176._o accuse_v the_o papist_n to_o be_v liar_n of_o the_o worst_a memory_n whence_o it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o every_o second_o page_n in_o their_o writing_n if_o not_o every_o second_o line_n 147._o pag._n 147._o be_v a_o refutation_n of_o the_o first_o do_v perplex_v himself_o about_o this_o matter_n very_o strange_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o few_o line_n and_o involu_v himself_o in_o manifest_a contradiction_n 4._o for_o first_o he_o say_v that_o the_o elect_n notwithstanding_o any_o degree_n of_o sin_n they_o run_v into_o retayn_v that_o grace_n which_o can_v and_o will_v procure_v pardon_n for_o all_o their_o offence_n in_o which_o respect_n also_o he_o say_v that_o the_o reprobate_n have_v 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