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A86484 A rejoynder to Master Samuel Eaton and Master Timothy Taylor's reply. Or, an answer to their late book called A defence of sundry positions and scriptures, &c. With some occasionall animadversions on the book called the Congregational way justified. For the satisfaction of all that seek the truth in love, especially for his dearly beloved and longed for, the inhabitants in and neer to Manchester in Lancashire. / Made and published by Richard Hollinworth. Mancuniens. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing H2496; Thomason E391_1; ESTC R201545 213,867 259

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then_o confident_o carp_v at_o the_o expression_n as_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n but_o now_o the_o case_n be_v alter_v yourselves_o do_v use_v it_o 4._o this_o implicit_a covenant_n or_o consent_v employ_v in_o action_n be_v in_o our_o congregation_n for_o among_o we_o christian_n that_o dwell_v in_o a_o vicinity_n or_o neighbourhood_n as_o have_v be_v show_v chap._n 2._o that_o they_o ought_v be_v one_o congregation_n they_o choose_v or_o submit_v unto_o and_o maintain_v the_o same_o individual_a officer_n as_o john_n thomas_n frequent_a the_o same_o numerical_a meeting_n place_n sacrament_n and_o other_o ordinance_n and_o so_o be_v distinguish_v from_o other_o congregation_n of_o christian_n dwell_v in_o other_o vicinitye_n submit_v to_o and_o maintain_v other_o officer_n as_o
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a_o yoke_n or_o covenant_n on_o our_o people_n which_o god_n have_v not_o lay_v on_o they_o for_o prevent_v of_o some_o inconvenience_n which_o god_n law_n do_v not_o enable_v we_o to_o prevent_v 2._o if_o there_o be_v any_o local_a bound_n as_o by_o scripture_n rule_n have_v be_v show_v there_o aught_o to_o be_v that_o inconvenience_n must_v necessary_o happen_v but_o to_o this_o i_o have_v speak_v before_o chap._n 2._o 3._o the_o place_n in_o eph._n 2.22_o be_v apparent_o not_o mean_v of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n but_o of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o city_n the_o household_n the_o temple_n and_o all_o the_o christian_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v not_o the_o whole_a city_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d fellow-citizen_n with_o the_o saint_n not_o the_o whole_a household_n but_o of_o the_o household_n not_o all_o the_o temple_n or_o building_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v build_v together_o with_o other_o 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away_o from_o the_o lord_n their_o god_n to_o go_v to_o serve_v other_o god_n or_o that_o they_o will_v not_o serve_v or_o worship_v image_n will_v this_o make_v they_o one_o church_n together_o and_o if_o it_o do_v not_o how_o can_v you_o say_v this_o be_v a_o church-covenant_n 4._o this_o be_v not_o a_o express_v vocal_a covenant_n on_o the_o people_n part_n which_o you_o be_v to_o prove_v necessary_a to_o the_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v make_v with_o they_o that_o be_v absent_a as_o well_o as_o with_o they_o that_o be_v present_a now_o they_o that_o be_v absent_a however_o they_o be_v include_v do_v not_o can_v not_o if_o they_o that_o be_v present_a do_v make_v a_o solemn_a express_v verbal_a covenant_n mr_n cotton_v opinion_n you_o shall_v hear_v hereafter_o sect._n 2._o when_o i_o answer_v that_o a_o covenant_n in_o general_n do_v not_o make_v a_o church_n nor_o a_o marriage_n and_o that_o scripture-covenant_n be_v not_o with_o appropriation_n and_o 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of_o the_o brethren_n band_n do_v they_o not_o put_v it_o into_o their_o b●●ds_n in_o command_v they_o to_o look_v out_o seven_o man_n rejoynd_a if_o you_o have_v faithful_o transcribe_v all_o my_o foresay_a answer_n it_o may_v have_v prevent_v these_o exception_n for_o 1._o that_o if_o they_o have_v be_v the_o strict_a presbyterian_o in_o the_o world_n they_o can_v have_v have_v elder_n of_o no_o more_o church_n present_v then_o there_o be_v 2._o the_o people_n do_v not_o set_v they_o before_o the_o apostle_n that_o the_o apostle_n may_v give_v direction_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n may_v ordain_v they_o which_o yourselves_o yield_v to_o be_v a_o authoritative_a act_n 3._o though_o the_o people_n do_v nominate_v and_o propound_v some_o person_n which_o they_o have_v look_v out_o according_a to_o the_o direction_n yet_o those_o so_o nominate_v be_v not_o officer_n by_o their_o election_n before_o the_o apostle_n approve_v they_o pray_v and_o impose_v hand_n on_o they_o for_o the_o 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