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A82555	The Quakers confuted, being an answer unto nineteen queries; propounded by them, and sent to the elders of the church of Duckenfield in Cheshire; wherein is held forth much of the doctrine and practise concerning revelations, and immediate voices, and against the holy Scriptures, Christs ministry, churches and ordinances &c. Together with an answer to a letter which was written and sent by one of them to a family of note and quality in the said county, which pleaded for perfection in this life, and for quaking. By Samuel Eaton, teacher of the Church of Christ heretofore meeting at Duckenfield, now in Stockport in Cheshire.	Eaton, Samuel, 1596?-1665.; Waller, Richard, d. 1657.	1654 (1654)	Wing E125; Thomason E719_8; ESTC R9865	69,620	98

more of like nature But there is scarce the shew of an answer to any thing in ours though it be very large and tedious Some of the un-favory and un-Christian expressions I have gathered out and presented to publike view that all persons that have to do with them may know what scurrilous language they may expect instead of an Answer I find many busie minds giving senses upon Scripture O flesh be silent before the Lord who art giving senses Who speaks with thine own will Thou hast uttered forth thy folly Who are unlearned therefore thou art wresting the Scriptures The same turns upon their own back and pate Thou livest in corrupt nature and pleadest for it A servant to the Devil maintaining his Kingdom Thou art led Captive doing the work of the Devil Thou art a witness against him and them who are in the second birth Thou art deceiving with vain words In the wisdom of the world thou art Shewing a contrary spirit to the Apostle Shewing thy self in the first birth and not in the second Litterally learned but not spiritually Had you the Spirit you would not wrest Scripture to your own destruction The confusion is in your own minds Let Pauls condition alone for you know nothing of it You are not compleat in Christ but without in the world It is the busie mind that would be exalted If I should answer to every sense you give I should make fools wise God will scatter the proud and there you are and there is your portion Your exernal mind and imagined wisdom which is from below There is an Image in your mind which neither knows Christ nor the way nor the Scripture That sense giving heals up the beast that hath a wound Here you sit as Judges of the Saints conditions speaking you do not know what of the Gospel of Moses of the Law of Justification of Sanctification Of these ye know nothing but have busie minds uttering forth your folly None of these can you witness to not the Law not Moses not Justification not Sanctification not the Gospel in the inward man but in the Notion It is babled and disputed upon as you do Friends give over your babling Give over your disputing and rabling and rambling with an unclean mind Look to your selves and gad not abroad for that is the woman thae abides not in her own house Paul did not tell you these words but you are thieves and steal his words You live in that nature by whom offences come But here you are not in this light nor can witness this blood nor the confession of your sin You are in the Generation of the Pharisees contending against Christ Children of the Devil and in that Generation are ye pleading for sin and not for faith You have one of the beasts colours of profession You appear beautifull as every harlet doth None in your Church and Generation can bridle his tongue Herein thou shewst thy self and thy Religion to be vain You are evil beasts and slow bellies You are Blinded Fogged Misted with the corruptions of a dark mind You are liars which would draw somthing out of Johns words Here you stand up for the Devils Kingdom You have uttered forth your folly without knowledge The world by wisdom knows not God and there are you You are in the same nature who justifie them who are for condemnation The earth within is that which pleads for the Devils Kingdom Thou shewest thy self to be of the same Adulterous Generation of the Scribes and Pharises You have uttered forth many lyes and slanders and scandalous speeches You are in Cains nature murthering the righteous one You are spewing forth your venom against an harmless people As dogs ye snarl and bite them that are guided by the Spirit of God You speak a vain divination You are yet under the dominion of Satan You have uttered forth your folly and filthiness They that say they are Iews and are not but are of the Synagogue of Satan there are you This is some of that mire and dirt which as the Sea they cast up against us meerly for the cause of that Letter which we sent to one of their wives who stood related to us But this is not all for the whole Reply consists of such kind of Language save that here and there there is some small intermixture of some Scriptures produced for the Justification of Perfection anh Quaking which I see no cause to return any further answer to because the answer that is already given in the Letter that we sent which is now presented to publike view may be equally applied to such Scriptures which are here added as to those other Scriptures which I met with before and will remain in like force These are the persons who alone pretend to the Spirit and to the second birth and do not onely lay us but all the Saints in all the World under the condemnation of such who have not the spirit and are in the first birth and not in the second But what spirit it is that Dwells and Acts and Rules in them doth appear from their expressions for their speech bewraies them These things have I presented for this end and purpose to obstruct their way and stop their further proceedings that by their impostures they may pevail no longer If God shall be pleased to give his blessing to my endeavors herein it will be a good reward of my labors however I have discharged my duty and shall have peace in that There was a paper given unto me containing the confession of Iohn Gilpin a Quaker Which is now printed for publike view that all may take notice what spirit it is that possesseth these persons and may fear and tremble at Gods just Judgements who delivers up them to Satan who cast off him FINIS There is lately Printed and sold by Thomas Brewster at the three Bible in Pauls Church-yard near the West and these Books viz. A discovery of Mystical Antichrist Displaying Christs Banners but attempting to lay waste Scriptures Churches Christ Faith Hope c. Containing an examination of the Doctrines and ways of the Quakers in York-shirie Written by John Pomroy Pa. Glissen Ioseph Kellet Milk for Babes in Christ or Meditations Observations and Experiences Divers Cases of Conscience Resolved c. by M. Fynch Preacher of the Gospel in Lincoln-shire Sions glory Discovered in the Churches and Ordinances before the fulness of the Iews come in by I. Prowd Three Treatises 1. A Discovery of the unsupportable burthen of sin 2. The Resolution of a soul to return to God that is sensible of his withdrawings 3. The Entertainment that such meet within their returnings by P. Hobson The Resurrection of the Witnesses and Englands fall from Rome by M. Cary. Refractoria Disputatio Or the Thwarting Conference In a Discouse between different Interests Disputing about the Dissolution of the late Parliament and other Changes of State A stop to the mad multitude being an Answer to a scurrilous book published against the peace of this Commonwealth Entituled The Grand Politick Informer A Description of Ierusalem as it flourished in Christs time With a large Map Explaining 268. places therein and in the Suburbs thereof shewing the several places of the Acts and sufferings of Jesus Christ and his holy Apostles As also of the Kings and Prophets c. Also seven general Rules for expounding Scriptures that speak of Christs coming and Kingdom and calling the Iews by H. Jessey Vindicae Justificationis Gratuitae Justification without conditions or the free Justification of a sinner and the absoluteness of the New Covenant Explained Confirmed and Vindicated from the Exceptions Objections c. Cast upon it by the asserters of conditional Justification viz. Mr. Baxter Mr. Woodbridge Mr. Cranford By W. Eyre Minister of the Gospel and Pastor of a Church at New-Sarum

Davids Psalms be sung Many strick at that who will assent unto the singing of other Psalms which are compiled by a special gift Answ There are reasons which are weighty which do carry thereunto 1. Psalms which were immediately inspired by the Spirit of God are most Divine and Heavenly and do contain the most admirable Doctrine 2. The Scripture is given for every use to be read sung pre●ched out of confened of medicated on and to be the matter of our prayers also And those parts of it which we finde to be Psalms we ought to make use of as Psalms and sing them And though we have liberty to sing other spiritual Songs of our own or others making after we have wel digested them as well as to read other godly Books besides the Scriptures yet as our reading of other Books will not excuse our omission of reading the Scripture so our singing of other spiritual Songs will not excuse our omission of singing Scriptures Psalms 3. Davids Psalms were brought into the Church of God in Hezekiahs time and an express command given to the Levites to sing praise to the Lord with the words of David and of Asaph the Seer which is a president and a pattern for Saints to follow 4. There are Commands laid upon the Churches of Christ and upon particular Christians to sing Psalms Hymns and spiritual Songs unto the Lord and nothing suggested unto them concerning the matter of them And doth Christ put a service upon use people and nor afford them any straw or matter to perform the same with There was no need else Christ would not have been wanting There were Psalms Hymns and spiritual Songs complied by David to their hands for such Titles we shall meet with in the Book of the Psalms A Psalm of David familiarly a Song often in Hymn sometimes as in the Title of 145 Psalm 5. The Ex 〈…〉 of the Apostle to the Church at Coloss is to let the word of Christ dwell in them 〈◊〉 in all wisedom teaching and admonishing them selves in psalms c. what is this but a clear suggestion that the word of Christ which is some part of Scripture should be famliar unto them and become the matter of their Psalms for their instruction For is there not first an injunction Let the word of Christ dwell in your And is there not after wards a direction how to perfom it and one way is by teaching and admonishing themselves in Psalms 6. It is less warrantable because there is no president for it and more dangerous because of some evil consequences that may attend it to bring in other Psalms of mens compiling and not Scriptural into the Church of God and to impose them upon the people For the people that must act in singing must first know them to be consonant to the Scripture and must have a right understanding of them that they may sing to their edification and them there must either be a book of such Psalms so brought in and imposed which every Saint must have or else the whole Church must be gathered together every time there is singing to peruse such Psalms which must be allowed to be sung amongst them but Scripture is silent concerning such wayes and seemes to give other direction And though he that had a gift brought his Psalm into the Church 1 Cor. 14. 26. yet for ought appears he sung it alone and then the rest might judge and say Amen or not say Amen as they approved or disapproved of it And it was not imposed upon the Church to be sung But the Apostle Paul layes singing of Pslams Hymns and spiritual songs upon the whole Chruch and there are no orders of Musitians now or office of singing Choriston as in the Old Testment but all the people are the Choristers in the dayes of the New Testament to sing Psalms and Songs c. And the Apostle James layes at injunction upon every particular Saint if he be merry to sing Psalmi Jam. 5. 13. But hath every particular Saint a gift to compile a Psalm If not what must such a Saint do Therefore there must of necessity be use made of Scripture-Psalms And as for singing them in Meeter the Hebrews had their Poetrie according to which they both compiled and sung their Psalms And it is but sutable that every Nation should have the liberty of their own proper and peculiar Poetrie among themselves to praise God by and meeter is that which is congruons to our English Poetry Concerning putting on of Hats in reading Psalms and putting them off in singing them I shall not much contest But this I say that reverence is that which is sutable to all Gods Ordinances and because the putting off the Hat doth shew reverence it would be very comely when Scripture is read but if it be otherwise I judge it not to be want of reverence in such a person because reverence may be shewed and not tied to one posture therefore I leave persons to their liberty Yet there is a difference in Ordinances in some we have an immediate address to God and in such we use more reverence as when we pray or give thanks we do not send one to God with our requests but we go our selves to him immediately but in preaching and reading it is otherwise we have not immediate communion with God but God sends by whom he will send his Message to us and speaketh not immediately but by another and so there is no irreverence though the like degree of reverence be not given And hence it comes that we may use a different posture and gesture though the same words be spoken if they be spoken in an Ordinance of a divers nature As if words of prayer he read as a part of Scripture then they are Gods speaking to us by another but if we our selves make use of such words and put them into our own prayers then they become our speaking to God in our immediate addresses unto him and so the Hat may be put on in the former and yet ought to be put off in the latter the like may be said of singing and reading Davids Psalms They are different Ordinances and may require different postures There is also difference betwixt speaking and hearing he that is the speaker though it be but in a civil Assembly shews more reverence speaking to many then they that hear him do to him and is usually uncovered when they that are spoken to are covered and in Religious Assemblies it is so also he that speaketh though it be in the name of God is uncovered when yet the people that are spoken to are usually covered But in singing of Psalms they are all Speakers and have to do with God shewing their holy joy in him and in his word and therefore are all uncovered But the custome of the Churches of God in these things if there be not palpable superstition in them is much to be respected and not rashly departed from

is necessary for such Secondly The Apostle seems to speak of such an annointment which they had received which had already taught them by which they should abide in Christ and not be seduced as those words shew Even us it hath taught you you shall abide c. Now indeed the Spirit of God hath taught us of all things in the Scriptures which were of his inspiring whereto if we attend we shall abide in the Truth and not be misled by Seducers and to this teaching of the Spirit in the Scriptures we need not that any teaching of man should be added but as we are taught in them Thirdly The words You need not that any man teach you but as the annointing teacheth you are hyperbolical expressions there is an excess in them as in many places of Scriptute as where it is said If all things should be written which Jesus said and did the whole world would not contain the the Books that would be written The meaning is there would be very many Books written if all should be written And in vers 20 of this very Chapter the Apostle tells them that they knew all things it is an excessive speech for no one knoweth all things but God Christ himself as man knew not all things who yet had the Spirit not according to measure but beyond it the meaning then is they had much knowledge and knew many things and so they needed not that any man teach them that is they knew so much already of the Doctrine of the Gospel that if onely they persevered in that which they knew they might be kept without much teaching it is to be understood in a comparative sense not in an absolute consideration as to exclude all teaching but to exclude much of that teaching which others do require and it respects the abundance of knowledge which they had in comparison of Believers of former times before the Gospel was revealed as from the Prophesie from which these words of John were fetcht appears Jer. 31. 34. They shall teach no more man his Neighbour and every man his Brother saying know the Lord for they shall all know me from the least of them unto the greatest of them saith the Lord Knowledge should so abound in the dayes of the Gospel that they should not need teaching so much as in the times of the Law For it points at the days of the Gospel after Christ should be revealed of which Christ saith That he that is least in the Kingdom of Heaven should be greater then John the Baptist who yet was greater then al the Prophets so exceedingly should Light shine in Gospel-times but that teaching should be absolutely excluded was not the Apostles meaning for though they never did need it less yet they never had it more then in the days of the Apostles and of the Primitive Churches For there were many who were eminently gifted besides Pastors and Teachers who did teach And it is to be observed that the Spirit was never given so plentifully in any Age as in that Age wherein so much outward teaching was so that there is no such measure of reception of the Spirit that can thrust out outward teaching while we are here yea and John himself thought there was need of teaching while he tells them of an unction that they had received and that they knew all things and needed not that any one should teach them for vers 36. he saith These things have I written unto you in reference to them that seduce you that is least you should be carried away from the Truth by them he taught them to stand fast in the Truth they had received Fourthly It holds forth that they were not neither should be Babes which knew nothing themselves were able to judge of nothing themselves but do depend wholly and really upon others to teach them and were led wholly as others guide them in this sense they should not need teaching for there was a light set up in their souls and they had the Spirit of God which is a light and enables them to discern with such clearness that they believe not because others tell them so but because they can look into the Truth themselves Concerning the last words of that question viz. that the Promise was eternal Life to him that did abide in the anointing because there is no such Scripture that saith so and because no course we take in our teaching doth tend as hath been shewed to withdraw from the anointing therefore I shall not insist upon them Querie 18. Whether you do not bewitch the people and draw them from the Spirit of God within them to observe those Sacraments and Ministery maintained and other practises in Church-meetings things which God never commanded to tell the people of a Sacrament and following your outward Teaching who stand praying in the Synagogues and are called of men Masters which Christ d●d forbid Mat. 23. And have the chiefest places in the Assemblies Whether these be not called Antichrists which act contrary to the Commands of Christ yea or no Answ In this Question besides the repetition of former things they strike at Sacraments at the teaching and praying of Pastors and Elders for to them they speak in al their questions at the posture of standing in prayer at the places of meeting calling them Synagogues in a derisive way at the Title of Master which is put upon them and charge them with ambition in assuming chiefest places which they say such take I must clear up the truth in all these particulars First Concerning Sacraments there are no Ordinances on foot amongst us which we call by that name though there Concorning Sacraments might be a defence for it but there are Ordinances which others call Sacraments and we call them Seals of the Covenant which are to confirm Faith in the Covenant of God concerning Remission of sin by the blood of Christ and other Grace of the like nature which is vouchsafed in Christ and they are Baptism and the Lords Supper and they are both of them instituted by Jesus Christ Mat. 28. 19. 1 Cor. 11. 23. and they both point at Christs Death and the shedding of his Blood Rom. 6. 3. 1 Cor. 1. 26. Mat. 26. 28. and they serve to Seal Remission of sins by Christs Blood Act. 22. 16. Mat. 26. 28. and indeed both of them are to put us in remembrance of Christ and that which Christ hath instituted who dares abrogate And those that destroy the Seals therein attempt the destruction of the Covenant for Seals are the ratification of Covenants or at least they do despise Gods grace of condescendency who for the cause of our weakness in belief of his Covenants vouchsafeth to grant us Seals to confirm them And Gods Covenants have never been without Seals and though there hath been change of Seals yet Seals are as old one or other of them and are to last as long as the Covenants and the Lords Supper