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A53704 An enquiry into the original, nature, institution, power, order and communion of evangelical churches. The first part with an answer to the discourse of the unreasonableness of separation written by Dr. Edward Stillingfleet, Dean of Pauls, and in defence of the vindication of non-conformists from the guilt of schisme / by John Owen. Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1681 (1681) Wing O764; ESTC R4153 262,205 445

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Instance in the Primitive Churches That which is first in any kind gives the Measure of what follows in the same kind and Light into the Nature of them Whereas therefore the Schisme that was among the Churches about the Observation of Easter was the first that fell out unto the Disturbance of their Communion I shall give a breif account of it as far as the Question in hand is concerned in it It is evident that the Apostles did with care and diligence teach the Doctrine of Christian Liberty warning the Disciples to stand fast in it and not submit their Necks unto any Yoke of Bondage in the things of the Worship of God especially the Apostle Paul had frequent Occasions to treat of this subject And what they taught in Doctrine they established and confirmed in their Practice For they enjoyned nothing to be observed in the Church but what was necessary and what they had the Command of Christ for leaving the Observation of things indifferent unto their Original Indifferency But whereas they had decreed by the Direction of the Holy Ghost some necessary Condescensions in the Gentile Believers towards the Jews in case of Offence or Scandal they did themselves make use of their Liberty to comply with the same Jews in some of their Observances not yet unlawful Hereon there ensued in several Churches different Observations of some Rites and Customes which they apprehended were countenanced by the Practise of the Apostles at least as it had been reported unto them For immediately after the Decease of the Apostles very many Mistakes and Vntruths were reported concerning what they said did and practised which some diligently collected from Old Men it may be almost delirant as Eusebius gives an Instance in Papias lib. 3. cap. 36. And even the great Irenaeus himself was imposed upon in a Matter directly contrary to the Scripture under a Pretence of Apostolical Tradition Among those Reports was that of the Observation of Easter And for a while the Churches continued in these different Observances without the least disturbance of their Communion each one following that which it thought the most probable Tradition for Rule of Scripture they pretended not unto But after a while they began to fall into a Contest about these things which began at Laodicea which Church was as likely to strive about such things as any other For Eusebius tells us that Melito the Bishop of Sardis wrote two Books about Easter beginning the first with an Account that he wrote them when Servilius Paulus was Proconsul there being then a great stir about it at Laodicea Euseb. lib. 4. cap. 25. But as it falls out on such Occasions much talk and disputing ensuing thereon the differences were encreased until one side or Party at Variance would make their Opinion and Practise the Rule and Terms of Communion unto all other Churches But this was quickly condemned by those who were Wise and Sober For as Zozoman affirmes they accounted it a frivolous or foolish thing to differ about a Custom whereas they agreed in all the principal Heads of Religion And thereon he gives a large Account of different Rites and Observances in many Churches without any breach of Communion among them adding that besides those enumerated by him there were many others in Cities and Villages which they did in a different manner adhere unto Hist. lib. 7. cap. 19. At length this Matter fell into the handling of Victor Bishop of Rome And his Judgment was that the Observation of Easter on the Lords Day and not on the fourteenth day of the first Month precisely according to the Computation of the Jews in the Observation of the Passover was to be imposed on all the Churches of Christ every where It had all along until his time been judged a thing indifferent wherein the Churches and all Believers were left unto the use of their own Liberty He had no pretence of any Divine Institution making it necessary the Writers of those days constantly affirming that the Apostles made no Canons Rules or Laws about such things He had Persons of as great Worth as any in the World as Melito Polycrates Polycarpus that opposed him not only as unto the Imposition of his Practice on others but as unto his Error as they judged in the Matter of Fact and Right Yet all this could not hinder but that he would needs have the Reputation of the Father of Schismes among the Churches of Christ by his Impositions and cut off all the Asian Churches from Communion declaring them and their Members Excommunicate Euseb. lib. 5. cap. 23. The Noise hereof coming abroad unto other Churches great Offence was taken at it by many of them and Victor was roundly dealt withal by sundry of them who agreed with him in Practise but abhorred his Imposition of it and making it a Condition of Church Communion Among those who so opposed and rebuked him Irenaeus was the most Eminent And I shall observe some few things out of the Fragment of his Epistle as it is recorded by Euseb. lib. 5. cap. 23. And 1. He tells us that he wrote unto Victor in the name of those Brethren in France whom he did preside amongst The Custom of considering things of this Nature with all the Brethren of the Church and writing their Determination in their Name was not yet grown out of use though the Practise of it now would be esteemed Novel and Schismatical 2. He tells Victor that there were great varieties in this thing as also in the Times and Seasons of Fasting which did not saith he begin or arise in our days but long before was introduced by such who being in Places of Rule rejected and changed the common and simple Customs which the Church had before The Dr. therefore need not think it so strange that an Alteration in Church Order and Rule should fall out in after Ages when long before Irenaeus's time such Changes were begun 3. He gives hereon that excellent Rule 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Difference of Fastings and consequently things of an alike Nature commends the Concord or Agreement of Faith This was the first Effect of a Departure from the only Rule of Unity and Communion among the Churches which was given by Christ himself and his Apostles As hereby great Confusion and Disorder was brought upon the Churches so it was the first publick inroad that was made on the Doctrine of the Scripture concerning Christian Liberty And as it was also the first Instance of rejecting Men otherwise found in the Faith from Communion for Non-Conformity or the Non-Observance of Humane Institutions or Traditions which had therein an unhappy Consecration unto the use of future Ages so it was the first notorious Entrance into that Usurpation of Power in the Roman Bishops which they carried on by degrees unto an absolute Tyranny Neither was there ever a more pernitious Maxime broached in the Primitive Times nor which had a more effectual Influence into the Ruine
in his laborious endeavour to stigmatize all Protestant Dissenters from the Church of England with the odious name of Schismaticks I have therefore altered nothing of what I had projected either as to Matter or Method in this first Part of the Discourse designed on the whole Subject of Church Affairs For as I have not found either Cause or Reason from any thing in the Doctors Book to make the least change in what I had writt●n so my principal Design being the Instruction and confirmation of them who have no other Interest in these things but only to know and perform their own Duty I was not willing to give them the trouble of perpetual diversions from the Matter in hand which all Controversial Writings are Subject unto Wherefore having premised some general Considerations of things insisted on by the Dr. of no great Influence into the Cause in hand and vindicated one Principle a supposition whereof we rely upon namely the Declension of the Churches in the Ages after the Apostles especially after the End of the second Century from the Primitive Institution of their State Rule and Order in the Preface I shall now proceed to consider and examine distinctly what is opposed unto the Defence of our Innocency as unto the Guilt of Schisme But some things must be premised hereunto As 1. I shall not depart from the state of the Question as laid down by our selves on our part as unto our Judgement of Parochial Churches and our Refraining from Communion with them Great Pains is taken to prove the several sorts of Dissenters to be departed farther from the Church of England then they will themselves allow and on such Principles as are disavowed by them But no Disputations can force our Assent unto what we know to be contrary unto our Principles and Perswasions 2. We do allow those Parochial Assemblies which have a settled unblamable Ministry among them to be true Churches so far as they can pretend themselves so to be Churches whose Original is from occasional Cohabitation within Precincts limited by the Law of the Land Churches without Church-Power to choose or ordain their Officers to provide for their own Continuation to admit or exclude Members or to reform at any time what is amiss among them Churches which are in all things under the Rule of those who are set over them by vertue of Civil Constitutions forraign unto them not submitted willingly unto by them and such for the most part as whose Offices and Power have not the least countenance given unto them from the Scripture or the Practice of the Primitive Churches Such as are Chancellours Commissaries Officials and the like Churches in which for the most part through a total Neglect in Evangelical Discipline there is a great Degeneracy from the exercise of Brotherly Love and the Holiness of Christian Profession whatever can be ascribed unto such Churches we willingly allow unto them 3. We do and shall abide by this Principle that communion in Faith and Love with the Administration of the same Sacraments is sufficient to preserve all Christians from the Guilt of Schisme although they cannot communicate together in some Rites and Rules of Worship and Order As we will not admit of any presumed Notions of Schisme and inferences from them nor allow that any thing belongs thereunto which is not contrary to Gospel Love Rules and Precepts in the Observance of Christs Institutions so we affirm and shall maintain that men abiding in the Principles of Communion mentioned walking peaceably among themselves refraining Communion with others peaceably wherein they dissent from them ready to joyn with other Churches in the same Confession of Faith and in the Defence of it and to concur with them in promoting all the real ends of Christian Religion not judging the Church state of others so as to renounce all Communion with them as condemning them to be no Churches continuing in the occasional exercise of all Duties of Love towards them and their Members are unduely charged with with the Guilt of Schisme to the disadvantage of the Common Interest of the Protestant Religion amongst us 4. Whereas there are two parts of the Charge against us the one for refraining from total communion with Parochial Assemblies which what it is and wherein it doth consist hath been before declared the other for gathering ourselves into another Church Order in particular Congregations as the Reasons and Grounds of the things themselves are distinct so must they have a distinct consideration and be examined distinctly and apart These things being premised I shall proceed to examine what the Reverend Doctor hath further offered against our former Vindication of the Non-conformists from the charge of Schisme and I desire the Reader to take notice that we delight not in these contentions that we desire nothing but mutual Love and Forbearance but we are compelled by all Rules of Scripture and natural Equity to abide in this Defence of ourselves For whereas we are charged with a Crime and that aggravated as one of the most heynous that men can incur the Guilt of in this World and to justifie men in severities against us being not in the least convinced in our Consciences of any Accessions thereunto or of any Guilt on the account of it I suppose the Doctor himself will not think it reasonable that we should altogether neglect the Protection of our own Innocency In the Method whereinto he hath cast his Discourse he begins with the reinforcement of his Charge against our refraining from total Communion with Parochial Assemblies If the Reader will be pleased to take a reveiw of what is said in the preceding Discourse unto this Head of our Charge in several Chapters he will easily perceive that either the Reasonings of the Doctor reach not the Cause in hand or are insufficient to justifie his Intention which I must say though I am unwilling to repeat it is by all ways and means to load us with the Guilt and disreputation of Schisme That which I first meet withal directly unto this Purpose is Part 2. pag. 157. The Forbearance of Communion with the Church of England in its Parochial Assemblies that is in the way and manner before described he opposeth with two Arguments The first respects those who allow occasional Communion with Parochial Churches but will not comply with them in that which is constant and absolute For he says if the first be lawful the latter is necessary from the commands we have to preserve the Peace and Vnity of the Church And the not doing it he says is one of the provoking sins of the Non-conformists but whether it be a sin or no is sub Judice that it is provoking unto some is sufficiently evident I shall not make this any part of my Contest Those who have so expressed their Charity as to give countenance unto this pretended Advantage will easily free themselves from the force of this Inference For it must be remembered that
are at all concerned in the Rhetorical Discourse of Dr. Still concerning the first Reformers and their Reformation neither do we at all delight in reflecting on any of the Defects of it desiring only the Liberty avowed on Protestant Principles in the Discharge of our own Duty Nor Secondly Are we any more concerned in the long story that ensues about the Rise and Progress of Separation from the Church of England with the Mistakes of some in Principles and Miscarriages in Practise who judged it their Duty to be Separate For as in our refraining from total Communion with the Parochial Assemblies of the Church of England we proceed not on the same Principles so we hope that we are free from the same Miscarriages with them or any of an alike Nature But it is also certain that after the great Confusion that was b●ought on the whole State and Order of the Church under the Roman Apostacy many of those who attempted a Reformation fell into different Opinions and Practises in sundry things which the Papists have made many a long story about We undertake the Defence only of our own Principles and Practises according unto them Nor do we esteem our selves obliged to justifie or reflect on others And it were no difficult Task to compose a Story of the proceedings of some in the Church of England with reference unto these Differences that would have as ill an Aspect as that which is here reported Should an Account be given of their unaccountable Rigor and Severity in that through so many years yea Ages they would never think of the least Abatement of their Impositions in any one Instance though acknowledged by themselves indifferent and esteemed by others unlawful although they saw what woful Detriment arose to the Churches thereby Yea how instead thereof they did to the last of their Power make a Progress in the same course by attempting new Canons to enflame the Difference and encreased in Severities towards all Dissenters should an Account be given of the Silencings Deprivings Imprisonings by the High Commission Court and in most of the Diocesses of the Kingdom of so great Numbers of Godly Learned Faithful Painful Ministers to the unspeakable disadvantage of the Church and Nation with the Ruine of the most of them and their Families the Representation of their Names Qualifications evident usefulness in the Ministry with the Causes of their Sufferings wherein the Observance of some Ceremonies was openly preferred before the Edification of the Church and a great Means of the Conversion of Souls would give as ill a Demonstration of Christian Wisdom Love Moderation Condescension Zeal for the Propagation of the Gospel as any thing doth on the other hand in the History before us It would not be omitted on such an Occasion to declare what Multitudes of pious peaceable Protestants were driven by their Severities to leave their Native Country to seek a Refuge for their Lives and Liberties with freedom for the Worship of God in a Wilderness in the Ends of the Earth and if it be said that what some did herein they did in discharge of the Duties of their Office I must say I shall hardly acknowledge that Office to be of the Institution of Christ whereunto it belongs in a way of Duty to ruine and destroy so many of his Disciples for no other cause but a desire and endeavour to serve and worship him according unto what they apprehend to be his Mind revealed in the Gospel Should there be added hereunto an Account of the Administration of Ecclesiastical Discipline in the Courts of Chancellors Commissaries Officials and the like as unto the Authority and Causes with the way and manner of their proceedings in the exercise of their Jurisdiction with the woful Scandals that have been given thereby with an Addition of sundry other things which I will not so much as mention I suppose it would as much conduce unto Peace and Reconciliation among Protestants as the Story here given us by our Author But setting aside the Aggravations of things gathered out of Controversial Writings wherein few men do observe the due Rules of Moderation but indulge unto themselves the Liberty of severe Censures and sharp Reflections on them they do oppose the Sum and Truth of the Story concerning these things may be reduced into a narrow Compass For 1. It is certain that from the first dawning of the Reformation in this Nation there were different Apprehensions among them that jointly forsook the Papacy as unto its Doctrine and Worship about the State Rule Order and Discipline of the Church with sundry things belonging unto its Worship also I suppose this will not be denyed 2. There doth not remain any Record of a due Attempt and Endeavour for the composing these Differences before one certain way was established by those in Power And whereas the State and condition wherein they were at that time from the confusions about Religion that were then abroad and the pertinaciousness of the Generality of the People in an Adherence unto their old ways and Observances in Religion with a great Scarcity in able Ministers the greatest part of the Bishops and Clergy disliking the whole Reformation they found themselves as they judged necessitated to make as little Alteration in the present state of things as was possible so as to keep up an Appearance of the same things in the Church which had been in former use On these Grounds the State and Rule of the Church was continued in the same form and posture that it was before under the Papacy the Authority of the Pope only being excluded and the Power of disposal of Ecclesiastical Affairs usurped by him declared to be in the King So also in imitation of that Book of Worship and Service which the People had been accustomed unto another was established with the Ceremonies most obvious unto popular Observation 3. This Order was unsatisfactory unto great Numbers of Ministers and others who yet considering what the necessity of the Times did call for did outwardly acquiesce in it in several Degrees in hopes of a farther Reformation in a more convenient season Nor did they cease to plead and press for it by all quiet and peaceable meanes abstaining in the mean time from the use of the Ceremonies and full compliance with Episcopal Jurisdiction 4. Hereon those who were for the Establishment having secured their Interests therein and obtained Power began after a while to Oppress Excommunicate Silence Deprive and Imprison those who dissented from them and could not come up unto a full practical compliance with their Institutions and Rules Yet the Generality of those so silenced and deprived abode in Privacy under their Sufferings hoping for a Reformation at one time or another without betaking themselves unto any other Course for the Edification of themselves or their People 5. After sundry years some men partly silenced and deprived as unto their Ministry and partly pursued with other Censures and Penalties began
to give place unto severe Thoughts of the Church of England and its Communion and withdrawing themselves into forreign Parts openly avowed a Separation from it And if the extremities which many had been put unto for their meer Dissent and Nonconformity unto the Established Rule which with a good Conscience they could not comply with were represented it might if not excuse yet alleviate the Evil of that Severity in Separation which they fell into 6. But hereon a double Inconvenience yea Evil did ensue whence all the Advantages made use of in this Story to load the present Cause of the Nonconformists did arise For 1. Many of those who refused to conform unto the Church in all its Constitutions yet thought it their Duty to wait quietly for a National Reformation thinking no other possible began to oppose and write against them who utterly Separated from the Church condemning its Assemblies as Unlawful And herein as the manner of men is on such Occasions they fell into sharp Invectives against them with severe Censures and Sentences concerning them and their Practice And 2. Those who did so separate being not agreed among themselves as unto all Principles of Church-Order nor as unto the Measures of their Separation from the Church of England there fell out differences and disorders among them accompanied with personal Imprudencies and Miscarriages in not a few Neither was it ever scarcely otherwise among them who first attempted any Reformation unless like the Apostles they were infallibly guided These mutual Contests which they had among themselves and with the Nonconformists who abode in their private Stations in England with their Miscarriages also were published unto the World in their own Writings and those of their Enemies Hinc omnis pendet Lucilius These were the things that gave advantage unto and are the Substance of the History of our Author concerning Separation wherein all I can find unto our present Instruction is that Iliacos intra muros peccatur extra There are and ever were Sins Faults Follies and Miscarriages among all sorts of Men which might be farther evidenced by recounting on the other hand what were the Ways Acts and Deeds at the same time of those by whom the others were cast out and rejected And whereas it was the Design of the Reverend Author to load the Cause and Persons of the present Nonconformists with Prejudice and contempt it is well fallen out in the Merciful disposal of things towards and amongst us by the Providence and Grace of God that he is forced to derive the principal Matter of his Charge from what was done by a few private Persons three or fourscore years agoe and more in whose Principles and Practises we are not concerned And as for the Difference that fell out more lately among the Divines in the Assembly at Westminster about the Ways Means and Measures of Reformation and mutual Forbearance which he gives us a large account of in a long Transcription out of their Writings I must have more Health and Strength and Leisure than now I have which I look not for in this World before I esteem my self concerned to ingage in that contest or to Apologize for the one side or other The things in Agitation between them had no Relation unto or present Dissent from the Church of England being here insisted on meerly to fill up the story with Reference unto the General End designed Neither to my Knowledge did I ever read a Book wherein there was a greater Appearance of Diligence in the Collection of Things Words Sayings Expressions Discourses unto other Ends which might only cast Odium on the Cause opposed or give advantage for Arguings unto a seeming Success very little or no way at all belonging unto the Cause in hand than there is in this of our Reverend Author though much in the same way and kind hath been before attempted But Separation it is and Schisme which we are all charged withal and the Evil thereof is aggravated in the Words of the Author himself and in large Transcriptions out of the Writings of others Schisme indeed we acknowledge to be an Evil a great Evil but are sorry that with some a pretended unproved Schisme is become almost all that is Evil in the Churches or their Members so that let men be what they will drenched yea overwhelmed in Ignorance Vice and Sin so they do not separate which to be sure in that state they will not do for why should he who hath Plague Sores upon him depart from the Society of them that are infected they seem to be esteemed as unto all the concerns of the Church very unblameable The Truth is considering the present State and Condition of the Inhabitants of this Nation who are generally Members of the Church of England how the Land is filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel God giving us every day renewed Tokens and Indications of his Displeasure no compliance with his Calls no publick Reformation being yet attempted it seems a more necessary Duty and of more importance unto them upon whom the care of such things is incumbent to endeavour in themselves and to ingage a Faithful Ministry throughout the Nation both to give a due Example in their Conversations and to Preach the Word with all diligence for the turning of the People from the Evil of their ways then to spend their time and strength in the Mannagment of such Charges against those who would willingly comply with them as unto all the great Ends of Religion amongst men But this must be farther spoken unto I say therefore 1. In General that whereas the whole Design of this Book is to charge all sorts of Nonconformists with Schisme and to denounce them Schismaticks yet the Author of it doth not once endeavour to state the true notion and nature of Schisme wherein the Consciences of Men may be concerned He satisfies himself in the Invectives of some of the Antients against Schisme applicable unto those which were in their days wherein we are not concerned Only he seems to proceed on the general Notion of it that it is a Causeless Separation from a true Church which departs from that of the Romanists who will allow no Separation from the Church but what is Causeless To make Application hereof unto us it is supposed 1. That the Church of England is a true Church in its National Constitution and so are all the Parochial Churches in it which can be no way justified but by a large extensive Interpretation of the Word True For there is but one sort of Churches instituted by Christ and his Apostles but National and Parochial Churches differ in their whole kind and therefore cannot both of them be of a Divine Original 2. That we are Members of this Church by our own Consent How we should come to be so otherways I know not If we are so by being born and baptized in England then those who are born beyond Sea and baptized there
are made Members of this Church by an Act of Parliament for their Naturalization and no otherwise 3. That we separate from this Church in things wherein we are obliged by the Authority of Christ to hold communion with it which neither is nor will ever be proved nor is it endeavoured so to be by any Instances in this Treatise 4. That to with-hold Communion from Parochial Assemblies in the Worship of God as unto things confessedly not of Divine Institution is Schisme that kind of Schisme which is condemned by the Antient Writers of the Church Upon these and the like suppositions it is no uneasie thing to make vehement Declamations against us and severe Reflections on us all is Schisme and Schismaticks and all of the same kind with what was written against by Cyprian and Austin and others a great many But the true state of the Controversie between him and us is this and no other namely Whether a Dissent in and Forbearance from the Communion of Churches in their state and kind not of Divine Institution or so far as they are not of Divine Institution and from Things in other Churches that have no such Divine Institution nor any Scriptural Authority to oblige us unto their Observance be to be esteemed Schisme in them who maintain and professedly avow Communion in Faith and Love with all the true Churches of Christ in the World This is the whole of what we are concerned in which where it is spoken unto it shall be considered But because there were in the Primitive Churches certain Persons who on Arbitrary Principles of their own consisting for the most part in gross and palpable Errors which they would have imposed on all others did separate from the Catholick Church that is all other Christians in the World and all the Churches of Christ condemning them as no Churches allowing not the Administration of Sacraments unto them nor Salvation unto their Members whom the Antient Church condemned with great severity and that justly as guilty of Schisme their Judgment their Words and Expressions are applyed unto us who are no way concerned in what they speak of or unto We are not therefore in the least terrified with what is alledged out of the Antients about Schisme no more then he is when the same Instances the same Authorities the same Quotations are made use of by the Papists against the Church of England as they are continually For as was said we know that we are no way concerned in them And suppose that all that the Dr. alledgeth against us be true and that we are in the wrong in all that is Charged on us yet I dare refer it to the Dr. himself to determine whether it be of the same nature with what was Charged on them who made Schismes in the Church of old I suppose I guess well enough what he will say to secure his Charge and it shall be considered where it is spoken But as was said the great and only Design of the Author of this Book is to prove all Non-conformists to be Schismaticks or guilty of the Sin of Schisme How he hath succeeded in this Attempt shall be afterwards considered And something I have spoken in the ensuing Discourse concerning the Nature of Schisme which will manifest how little we are concerned in this Charge But yet it may not be amiss in this place to mind both him and others of some of those Principles whereon we ground our Justification in this Matter that it may be known what they must further overthrow and what they must establish who shall persist in the Mannagement of this Charge that is indeed through want of Love in a design to heighten and perpetuate our Divisions And The first of these Principles is That there is a Rule prescribed by our Lord Jesus Christ unto all Churches and Believers in a due Attendance whereunto all the Vnity and Peace which he requireth amongst his Disciples do consist We acknowledge this to be our Fundamental Principle Nor can the Rhetorick or Arguments of any man affect our Consciences with a sense of the Guilt of Schism until one of these things be proved namely Either First That the Lord Christ hath given no such Rule as in the Observance whereof Peace and Unity may be preserved in his Church Or Secondly That we refuse a compliance with that Rule in some one Instance or other of what therein he hath himself appointed Unless one or the other be proved and that strictly and directly not pretended so to be by perpetual Diversions from the things in Question no vehement Assertions of any of us to be Schismaticks nor Aggravations of the Guilt of Schisme will signifie any thing in this Cause But that our Principle herein is according unto Truth we are fully perswaded There is a Rule of Christs giving which whosoever walk according unto Peace shall be on them and Mercy as on the whole Israel of God Gal. 6.16 And we desire no more no more is needful unto the Peace and Unity of the Church And this Rule whatever it be is of his giving and Appointment No Rule of Mens Invention or Imposition can by its Observance secure us of an Interest in that Peace and Mercy which is peculiar unto the Israel of God God forbid we should entertain any such Imagination We know well enough men may be through Conformists to such Rules unto whom as unto their present state and condition neither Peace nor Mercy do belong For there is no Peace to the Wicked He who hath directed and commanded the end of Church Unity and Peace hath also appointed the Meanes and Measures of them Nothing is more disagreeable unto Nothing more inconsistent with the Wisdom Care and Love of Christ unto his Church than an Imagination that whereas he strictly enjoynes Peace and Unity in his Church he hath not himself appointed the Rules Bounds and Measures of them but left it unto the Will and Discretion of Men. As if his Command unto his Disciples had been Keep Peace and Vnity in the Church by doing and observing whatever some men under a Pretence of being the Guides of the Church shall make necessary unto that End Whereas it is plainly otherwise namely that we should so keep the Peace and Unity of the Church by doing and observing all whatever that he commands us And besides we strictly require that some one Instance be given us of a Defect in the Rule given by Christ himself which must be supplyed by humane Additions to render it compleat for the End of Church Peace and Unity In vain have we desired in vain may we for ever expect any Instance of that kind This Principle we shall not be easily dispossessed of And whilst we are under the Protection of it we have a safe Retreat and shelter from the most vehement Accusations of Schisme for a Non-compliance with a Rule none of his different from his and in some things contrary unto his for the
ways and means countenanced with the least semblance or appearance of Truth to load the Non-Conformists and their Cause with the Imputation of things invidious and burdensome should fix upon their Prayers by vertue of the Grace and Gift of Prayer which they have received ascribing the Original of its Vse unto the Artifice and Insinuation of the Jesuites as he doth Pref. pag. 14 15. But because I look on this as a thing of the greatest importance of all the Differences between them and us as that wherein the Life of Religion the Exercise of Faith and the Labour of Divine Love do much consist the Nature and Necessity of that kind of Prayer which is here reflected on and opposed shall God willing be declared and vindicated in a peculiar Discourse unto that Purpose For the Differences that are between us cannot possibly have any more pernicious consequence then if we should be influenced by them to oppose or condemn any Principles or Exercise of the Duties of Practical Holiness as thinking them to yeild matter of advantage to one Party or another The great pains he hath taken in his Preface to prove the Non-conformists to have been the means of furthering and promoting Popery in this Nation might as I suppose have been omitted without a●● disadvantage unto himself or his Cause For the thing it self is not true as it is utterly impossible to affect the Minds or Consciences of the Non-conformists with a sense of it because they have a thousand witnesses in themselves against the Truth of the Charge so it is impossible it should be believed by any who are in the least acquainted with their Principles or have their Eyes open to see any thing that is doing at this day in Religion But as there are many palpable Mistakes in the account he gives of things among our selves to this Purpose so if on the other hand any should out of Reports Surmizes Jesuites Letters and Politicks particularly those of Contzen Books written to that purpose against them Agreement of Principles notorious compliance of some Bishops and others of the same way with the Papists some dying avowedly such Stories of what hath been said at Rome and elsewhere which are not few nor unproveable concerning the Inclinations of many unto a fair composition of things with the Church of Rome the deportment of some before and since the Discovery of the Plot with such other Topicks as the Discourse of our Author with respect unto the Non-conformists will furnish them withal as also from the woful Neglect there hath been of instructing the People in the Principles of Religion so as to implant a sense of the Life and Power of it on their Souls with all things that may be spoken on that Head with reference unto the Clergy under their various distributions with the casting out of so great number of Ministers who they knew in their own Conscience to be firmly fixed against Popery and its Interest in this Nation and could not deny but they might be useful to instruct the People in the Knowledge of the Truth and encourage them by their Example unto the Practice of it if any I say should on these and the like grounds not in a way of Recrimination nor as a Requital of the Drs. Story but meerly as a necessary Part of the Defence of their own Innocency charge the same guilt of giving occasion unto the growth encrease and danger of Popery in this Nation on the Episcopal Party I know not now how they could be well blamed for it nor what will be done of that kind For they who will take Liberty to speak what they please must be content sometimes to hear what will displease For my part I had rather if it were possible that these things at present might be omitted and that all those who are really united in opposition unto Popery as I am assured in particular that this Reverend Author and I am would rather consider how we might come out of the danger of it wherein we are then at present to contest how we came unto it This I speak seriously and that under the consideration of this Discourse which upon the Account of sundry Mistakes in Matter of Fact of great Defects in point of Charity with a design to expose others unto reproach for their great Crimes of being willing to be a little freed from being beaten fined punished and imprisoned by their means and on their Accounts is as apt to excite new Exasperations and to provoke the Spirits of them concerned as any I have read of late However the Defence of our own Innocency must not be forsaken But Cumque superba foret Babylon spolianda Trophaeis It is not Praise-worthy to abide in these contests beyond Necessity This Discourse indeed of the Reverend Author is encreased into so large a Volume as might justly discourage any from undertaking the Examination of it who hath any other necessary Duties to attend unto But if there be separated from it the consideration of Stories of Things and Persons long since past wherein we are not concerned with the undue Application of what was written by some of the Antients against the Schismes in their days unto our present Differences as also the Repetition of a Charge that we do not refrain Communion from the Parochial Churches on the Grounds and Reasons which we know to the contrary that we do with the Report and Quotations of the Words and Sayings of Men by whose Judgement we are not determined with frequent Diversions from the Question by attempting Advantages from this or that passage or Expression in one or another and the Rhetorical Aggrevations of things that might be plainly expressed and quickly issued and the controversie may be reduced into a narrower Compass It is acknowledged that the Differences which are amongst Protestants in this Nation are to be bewailed because of the Advantages which the Common Enemy of the Protestant Interest doth endeavour to make thereby Howbeit the Evil Consequences of them do not arise from the Nature of the things themselves but from the Interests Prejudices and byassed Affections of them amongst whom they are Nor shall any man ever be able to prove but that on the Doctrinal Agreement which we all profess provided it be real we may notwithstanding the Differences that remain enjoy all that Peace and Union which are prescribed unto the Churches and Disciples of Christ provided that we live in the exercise of that Love which he enjoyneth us which whilst it continues in the Profession of the same Faith it is impossible there should be any Schisme among us Wherefore whereas some are very desirous to state the Controversie on this supposition that there is a Schisme among us and issue it in an Enquiry on which side the blame of it is to be laid wherein they suppose they need no farther Justification but the Possession of that Church State which is Established by Law I shall willingly forego
place unto all the Members of it was a particular Congregation 6. The things that he ascribeth unto this Leader to be done at this general meeting of the Church every Lords day were 1. That he prayed 2. That after the reading of the Scripture he preached 3. That he consecrated the Eucharist the Elements of the Bread and Wine being distributed by the Deacons unto the Congregation 4. That he closed the whole Worship of the day in prayer 7. In the Consecration of the Sacramental Elements he observes that the President prayed at large giving thanks to God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 So vain is the pretence of some that in the Primitive times they consecrated the Elements by the Repetition of the Lords prayer only After the participation of the Eucharist there was a Collection made for the poor as he describeth it at large what was so gathered being committed to the Pastor who took care for the distribution of it unto all sorts of poor belonging unto the Church Hereunto was added as Tertullian observes the Exercise of Discipline in their Assemblies whereof we shall speak afterwards The close of the Administration of the Sacrament Justin gives us in these words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Pastor again according to his ability or power poureth forth or sends up prayers the people all joyfully crying Amen c. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is as Origen expounds the Phrase often used by himself 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 lib. 8. ad Cels. according unto the present Ability given unto him This was the state the Order and the Worship of the Church with its Method in the days of Justin Martyr This and no other is that which we plead for Unto these times belongs the most excellent Epistle of the Churches of Vienna and Lyons in France unto the Brethren in Asia and Phrygia recorded at large by Eusebius Hist. lib. 5. cap 1. Their design in it is to give an account of the holy Martyrs who suffered in the persecution under Marcus Antoninus I am no way concerned in what state Irenaeus was in the Church at Lyons whereon after the writing of this Epistle he was sent to Eleutherius the Bishop of Rome which he gives an account of Chap. 4. He is indeed in that Epistle called a Presbyter of the Church although as some suppose it was sundry years after the death of Pothinus whom they call Bishop of Lyons into whose room he immediately succeeded And Eusebius himself cap. 8. affirming that he would give an account of the Writings of the antient Ecclesiastical Presbyters in the first place produceth those of Irenaeus But these things belong not unto our present contest The Epistle we intend was written by the Brethren of those Churches and it was written to the Brethren of the Churches in Asia and Phrygia after the manner of the Scripture wherein the fraternity or Body of the Church was designed or intended in all such Epistles From them was this Epistle and unto those of the same sort was it written not from one Bishop unto another And as this manifests the concern of the Brotherhood in all Ecclesiastical Affairs so with all other circumstances it evidenceth that those Churches were particular or Congregational only Nor is there any thing in the whole Epistle that should give the least intimation of any other Church state know● unto them This Epistle as recorded by Eusebius gives us as noble Representation of the Spirit and Communion that was then among the Churches of Christ being written with Apostolical simplicity and gravity and remote from those Titles of Honour and affected swelling words which the faigned writings of that Age and some that are genuine in those that followed are stuffed withal Tertull●an who lived about the end of the second Century gives us the same account of the State Order and Worship of the Churches as was given be●ore by Justin Martyr Apol. ad Gen. cap. 39. The Description of a Church he first lays down in these words Corp●s sumus de conscientia Religionis Disciplinae unitate spei foedere We are a Body united in the Conscience of Religion or a conscientious Observation of the Duties of Religion by an Agreement in Discipline whereby it was usual with the Antients to express Universal Obedience unto the Doctrine and commands of Christ and in a Covenant of Hope For whereas such a Body or Religious Society could not be united but by a Covenant he calls it a Covenant of Hope because the principal respect was had therein unto the things hoped fo● They covenanted together so to live and walk in the Discipline of Christ or Obedience unto his commands as that they might come together unto the enjoyment of Eternal Blessedness This Religious Body or Society thus united by Covenant did meet together in the same Assembly or Congregation Corpus su●us ●o●mus in coe●um Congregationem ut ad Deum quasi manu facta precationibus ambiamus orantes And cogimur ad divinarum literarum commemorationem c. Designing to declare as he doth in particular Negotia Christianae factionis as he calls them or the Duties of Christian Religion which in their Churches they did attend unto he lays the foundation in their meetings in the sa●● Assem●ly or Congregation In these Assemblies there presided the Elders that upon a Testimony of their meetness unto that Office were chosen thereunto President probati quique seniores honorem istum non preti● sed Testimonio adepti And in the Church thus met together in the same place Assembly or Congregation under the rule and conduct of their Elders among other things they exercised Discipline that is in the presence and by the consent of the whole Ibidem etiam exhortationes castigationes censura divina Nam judicatur magno cum pondere ut apud certos de Dei conspectu summumque futuri jud●cii praejudicium est s● quis ita deliquerit ut à communicatione Oratinis conventus omnis sancti commercii relegetur The loss of this Discipline and the manner of its Administration hath been one of the principal means of the Apostacy of Churches from their Primitive Institution To the same purpose doth Origen give us an account of the way of the gathering and establishing Churches under Elders of their own choosing in the close of his last Book against Celsus And although in the days of Cyprian in the third Century the distinction between the Bishop in any Church eminently so called and those who are only Presbyters with their imparity and not only the precedency but superiority of one over others began generally to be admitted yet it is sufficiently manifest from his Epistles that the Church wherein he did preside was so far a particular Church as that the whole Body or Fraternity of it was admitted unto all advice in things of common concernment unto the whole Church and allowed the exercise of their
can have that respect and Devotion unto them as they would have unto hereditary Rulers long Succession in Rulers being the great cause of Veneration in the People especially such as had a Succession one unto another by a Natural Descent through Divine Appointment as the Preists had under the Law or as unto those whom on the account of their Worth Ability and Fitness for the work of the Ministry among them they do choose themselves they may do well to consider who are concerned The necessity there is of maintaining a Reputation and Interest by secular Grandeur Pomp and Power of Ruling the People of the Church in Church Matters by external force with many other Inconveniences do all proceed from this Order of things or rather disorder in the Call of men unto the Ministry And hence it is that the City of God and the People of Christ therein which is indeed the only true free Society in the World have Rulers in it and over them neither by a Natural Right of their own as in Paternal Government nor by hereditary Succession nor by Election nor by any way or means wherein their own consent is included but are under a Yoke of an Imposition of Rulers on them above any Society on the Earth whatever Besides there is that Relation between the Church and its Guides that no Law Order or Constitution can create without their mutual voluntary Consent And therefore this Right and Liberty of the People in every Church to choose their own Spiritual Officers was for many Ages preserved sacredly in the primitive times But hereof there is no shadow remaining in our Parochial Churches sundry Persons as Patrons and Ordinaries have a concurring Interest into the imposing of a Minister or such whom they esteem so upon any such Church without the Knowledge Consent or Approbation of the Body of the Church either desired or accepted If there be any who cannot comply with this Constitution of things relating unto the Ministry because it is a Part of their Profession of the Gospel which they are to make in the World which yet really consists only in an avowed subjection unto the Commands of Christ they can be no way obnoxious unto any charge of Schisme upon their refusal so to do For a Schisme that consists in giving a Testimony unto the Institutions of Christ and standing fast in the Liberty wherewith he hath made Disciples free is that whose Guilt no man need to fear 5. What remaineth of those Reasons whereon those who cannot comply with the Conformity under Consideration are cleared in point of Conscience from any Obligation thereunto and so from all Guilt of Schisme whatever belongs unto the Head of Impositions on their Consciences and Practise which they must submit unto These being such as many whole Books have been written about the chief whereof have no way been answered unless railings and scoffings with contempt and fierce Reproaches with false Accusations may pass for Answers I shall not here again insist upon them Some few things of that Nature I shall only mention and put an end unto this Dispute 1. The Conformity required of Ministers consists in a publick Assent and Consent unto the Book of Common Prayer with the Rubrick in it which contains all the whole Practise of the Church of England in its commands and Prohibitions Now these being things that concern the Worship of God in Christ the whole entire State Order Rule and Government of the Gospel Church whoever gives solemnly this Assent and Consent unless he be allowed to enter his Protestation against those things which he dislikes and of the sense wherein he doth so assent and consent which by Law is allowed unto none the said Assent and Consent is his publick Profession that all these things and all contained in them are according to the Mind of Christ and that the Ordering of them as such is part of their professed Subjection unto his Gospel Blessed be God most Ministers are too wise and honest to delude their Consciences with Distinctions Equivocations and Reservations and do thereon rather choose to suffer Penury and Penalty then to make the least entrenchment upon their own Consciences or the honour of the Gospel in their Profession What they do and declare of this Nature they must do it in Sincerity as in the sight of God as approving what they do not only as pardonable effects of Necessity but as that which is the best they have or can do in the Worship of God with a solemne Renunciation of whatever is contrary unto what they do so approve And whether this be a meet Imposition on the Consciences of Ministers with reference unto a great Book or Volume of a various composition unto things almost without number wherein exceptions have been given of old and lately not answered nor answerable with Rules Laws Orders not pretending to be Scriptural Prescriptions is left unto the Judgment of all who have due thoughts of their approaching Account before the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ. 2. The Conformity that is required of others being precisely and without Power of Dispensation in them by whom it is required to answer the Rule or Law of it before declared every Man by his so conforming doth thereby take it on his Conscience and make it Part of his Christian Profession that all which he so conformes unto is not only what he may do but what he ought to do both in matter and manner so farre as the Law or any Part of it doth determine or enjoyn them No man is allowed to make either distinction or Protestation with respect unto any thing contained in the Rules and therefore whatever he doth in compliance therewith is interpretable in the sight of God and Man as an Approbation of the whole Sincerity and Openness in Profession is indispensibly required of us in order unto our Salvation And therefore to instruct men as unto the Worship of God to do what they do not judge to be their Duty to do but only hope they may do it without Sin or to joyn themselves in and unto that Performance of it which either they approve not of as the best in the whole or not lawful or approveable in some Parts of it is to instruct them unto the Debauching of their Consciences and Ruine of their own Souls Let every one be perswaded in his own Mind for what is not of Faith is Sin 3. There is in this Conformity required a Renunciation of all other ways of publick Worship or means of Edification that may be made use of For they are all expresly forbidden in the Rule of that Conformity No Man therefore can comply with that Rule but that a Renunciation of all other publick wayes of Edification as unlawful is part of the visible Profession which they make Video meliora proboque deteriora sequor is no good Plea in Religion It is uprightness and Integrity that will preserve Men and nothing else He that
World according as they had opp●●tunity of Converse with them And when on any occasion any Division or Schisme fell out among any of their Members in this Church state it was severely rebuked by the Apostles All these Churches and all the Members of them were obliged by vertue of Divine Institution to obey their Guides to Honour and Reverence them and by their voluntary Contribution to provide for their Honourable Subsistence and maintenance according to their Ability Other Church state neither the Scripture nor Antiquity unto the End of the second Century do know any thing of which I shall hereafter more fully manifest Neither was there any thing known then to be Schisme or so esteemed but a Division falling out in some one of these Churches which hapned for the most part if not onely by some of their Teachers falling into heresie and drawing away Disciples after them Acts 20.30 or by various opinions about their Guides 1 Cor. 1.12 or the Ambition of some in seeking the Power and Authority of office among them To seek for any thing among those Churches wherein our present Contest about Schisme is concerned is altogether in vain There was then no such subordination of Churches of many unto one as is now pleaded No such distinction of Officers into those who have a plenary and those who have a partiary power onely in the Rule of the Church No Church with a single Officer over it Comprehending in a Subjection unto its Jurisdiction a multitude of other Churches No Invention no Imposition of any Orders Form● of Prayer or Ceremonies of Worship not of Divine Institution were once thought of and when any thing of that Nature was first attempted it caused great troubles amongst them In a Word the things on the account of a Non-compliance wherewithal we are vehemently charged with Schisme were then neither laid nor hatch'd neither thought of nor invented To Erect new kinds of Churches to introduce into them new Orders new Rules Rites and Ceremonies to impose their Observation on all Churches and all Members of them and to charge their dissent with the guilt of Schisme that Schisme which is prohibited and condemned in the Scripture hath much of an assumed Authority and Severity in it nothing of Countenance from the Scripture or Primitive Antiquity But after that Churches began to depart from this original Constitution by the wayes and means before declared every alteration produced a new supposition of Church Unity and peace whereto every Church of a new Constitution layed claim New sorts of Schisme were also coyned and framed For there was a certain way found out and carried on in a Mistery of Iniquity whereby those Meek Holy Humble Churches or Societies of Christs Institution who as such had nothing to do with the things of the World in Power Authority Dignity Jurisdiction or Wealth in some Instances wherein they got the Advantage one of another became in all these things to equal Kingdomes and Principalities yea one of them to Claim a Monarchy over the whole World During the Progression of this Apostacy Church Unity and Schisme declined from their Centre and varied their state according unto the present Interest of them that prevailed Whoever had got Possession of the name of the Church in a prevailing Reputation though the state of it was never so Corrupt made it bite and devour all that disliked it and would swear that submission unto them in all things was Church-Unity and to dissent from them was Schisme Unto that state all the World know that things were come in the Church of Rome Howbeit what hath been disputed about or contended for of Power Priviledges Authority Preheminence Jurisdiction Catholicisme wayes of Worship Rule and Discipline which the World is filled with such a noise about and in the dispute whereof so many various Hypotheses are advanced that cannot be accommodated unto such Christian Congregations as we have described are but the Effects of the Prudence or Imprudence of men and what it will prove the Event will shew Things of this Nature being once well understood will deliver the World from innumerable fruitless endless Contests Sovereign Princes from all disturbance on the account of Religion and private Persons from the fatal Mistake of entrusting the eternal Concernments of their Souls unto their Relation unto one Church and not unto another I am not so vain as at this time to expect the Reduction of Christian Religion unto its primitive Power Purity and Simplicity nor do I reflect blame on them who walk Conscientiously in such a Church state and Order as they approve of or suppose it the best they can attain unto onely I think it Lawful for all Christs Disciples at all times to yield Obedience unto all his Commands and to abstain from being Servants of Men in what he hath not enjoyned An Answer to Dr. Stillingfleets Book of the Unreasonableness of Separation in Defence of the Vindication of Non-Conformists from the Guilt of Schisme THE Preceding Discourse was written for the most part before the publishing of the Treatise of the Reverend Dr. Stillingfleet Entituled the Vnreasonableness of Separation Yet was it not so without a Prospect at least a probable Conjecture that something of the same kind and tendency with the Doctors Book would be published in Defence of the Cause which he had undertaken And I was not without hopes that the whole of it might have been both finished and communicated unto publick view before any thing farther were attempted against our Cause whereby many Mistakes might have been prevented For as I was willing yea very desirous if it were the Will of God that I might see before my departure out of this World the Cause of Conformity as things are now stated between us and the Church of England pleaded with Judgment Moderation and Learning with the best of those Arguments whereby our Principles or Practises are opposed so considering on what hand that work was now like to fall I thought si pergania dextra c. and am of the same Mind still But my expectation being frustrate of representing our whole Cause truly stated for the Prevention of Mistakes by the coming out of this Book against all sorts of Nonconformists I thought it convenient to publish this first Part of what I had designed and to annex unto it the ensuing Defence of the Vindication of Non-conformists from the charge of Schisme For although I do know that there is nothing material in the whole Book of the Vnreasonableness of Sepaeration but what is obviated or answered before hand in the preceeding Discourse so as that the Principles and Demonstrations of them contained therein may easily be applyed unto all the Reasonings Exceptions and Pleas in and of that Book to render them useless unto the End designed which is to reinforce a charge of Schisme against us Yet I think it necessary to shew how unsuccessful from the disadvantage of his Cause the Doctor hath been
impartial Consideration he chargeth on us with great Solemnity as we Love our own Souls Now although that passage in that great and Holy Person be not new unto me having not only read it many a time in his book but frequently met with it urged by Papists against all Protestants Yet upon the Drs. intimation I have given it again the Consideration required The Words as they Lye in the Author are to this purpose We shall also judge them who make Schismes being vain qui sunt immanes or inanes not having the Love of God rather considering their own Profit than the Vnity of the Church who for small or any causes rend and divide the Glorious body of Christ and as much as in them lyes destroy it speaking Peace but designing War straining at a Gnat and swallowing a Camel For there can be no rebuke of things by them to equal the mischief of Schisme Lib. 4. cap. 62. I know not why he should give us such a severe Charge for the impartial Consideration of these words that as we love our souls we should impartially and without prejudice consider them We hope that out of Love to the Truth the Glory of Christ and Care of our own Souls we do so Consider and have long since so considered whatever belongs unto the Cause wherein we ingaged and the Oppositions that are made unto it Nor will we be offended with any that shall yet Call on us to persist and proceed in the same way But why such a Charge should be laid on us with respect unto these words of Irenaeus I know not For although we greatly value the Words and Judgment of that Holy Person that great Defender of the Mystery and Truth of the Gospel and of the Liberty of the Churches from unwarrantable impositions yet it is the Word of Christ and his Apostles alone whereby we must be regulated and determined in these things if we Love our own souls Besides What are we Concern'd in them is every Separation from a Church a Schisme Our Author shews the contrary immediately Is refraining Communion in a Church state not of Divine Institution and in things not prescribed by the Lord Christ in the Worship of God holding Communion in Faith and Love with all the true Churches of Christ in the World a damnable Schisme or any Schisme at all hath the Reverend Author in his whole Book once attempted to prove it to be so though this be the whole of the matter in difference between us is our Forbearance of Communion in Parochial Assemblies upon the Reasons before pleaded especially that of humane impositions of the same Nature with the Schisme from the whole Catholick Church without pretence of any such Impositions Doth he judge us to be such as have no Love unto God such as prefer our own profit before the Unity of the Church I heartily wish and pray that he may never have a share in that profit and advantage which we have made unto our selves by our principles and practise Poverty Distress Ruine to our Families Dangers Imprisonments Revilings with Contemptuous reproaches Comprize the profit we have made unto our selves Is our refraining Communion in some outward Order Modes and Rites of Mens institution our want of conscientious submission unto the Courts of Chancellours Commissaries Officials c. a rending and destroying of the glorious Body of Christ is it Cemented United and Compacted or fitly framed together by these things They formerly pretended to be his Coat and must they now be esteemed to be his glorious Body when they no way belong unto the one or the other Is the Application of these things unto us an effect of that Love Charity and Forbearance which are the only preventive means of Schisme and whereof if men are void it is all one upon the matter whether they are Schismaticks or no for they will be so when it is for their Advantage Wherefore we are not concerned in these things Let whosoever will declare and vehemently assert us to be guilty of Schisme which they cannot prove we can cheerfully subscribe unto these Words of Irenaeus It may not be impertinent on this occasion to desire of some others that as they Love their own Souls and have compassion for the Souls of other men they would seriously consider what state and Condition things are come unto in the Church of England how much Ignorance Profaneness Sensuality do spread themselves over the Nation what Neglect of the most important Duties of the Gospel Yea what scoffing at the power of Religion doth abound amongst us What an utter decay and loss there is of all the primitive Discipline of the Church what Multitudes are in the way of Eternal Ruin for want of due Instruction and Example from them who should lead them How great a necessity there is of an universal Reformation and how securely Negligent of it all sorts of Persons are What have been the pernicious Effects of imposing things unnecessary and unscriptural on the Consciences and Practises of men in the Worship of God whereby the Church hath been deprived of the labour of so many faithful Ministers who might have at least assisted in preventing that Decay of Religion which every day encreaseth among us How easie a thing it were for them to restore Evangelical Peace and Vnity amongst all Protestants without the loss of their Ministry without the diminution of their Dignity without deprivation of any part of their Revenues without the Neglect of any Duty without doing any thing against their light and Consciences with respect unto any Divine Obligation and thereon set themselves seriously to endeavour the Remedy of these and other Evils of the like nature under a sense of that great Account which they must shortly give before the Judgement seat of Jesus Christ. He proceeds to Consider the Cases wherein the Scripture allows of Separation which he affirms to be three The First is in Case of Idolatrous Worship This none can Question they do not see from whom yet we all separate as from Idolaters The second is in Case of false Dostrine being imposed instead of true which he confirms with sundry Instances But there is a little Difficulty in this Case for 1. It is uncertain when a Doctrine may be said to be imposed Is it when it is taught and preach'd by the Guides and Governours of the Church or any of them without controul if so then is such preaching a sufficient cause of Separation and will justifie them who do at present separate from any Church whose Ministers preach false Doctrine How false Doctrine can be otherwise imposed I know not unless it be by exacting an express Confession of it as Truth 2. What false Doctrine it is which is of this Importance as to justifie Separation is not easily determinable 3. If the Guides and Governours of the Church do teach this false Doctrine who shall judge of it and determine it so to be and that ultimately so as