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A50497 A brief narrative of the second meeting between the people called Quakers and Baptists at the Meeting-place, near Wheeler-street, London, the 16th of the 8th moneth, 167[4] / published for information by W.M. ... [et al.] Mead, William, 1628-1713.; Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent. 1674 (1674) Wing M1565A; ESTC R29521 29,398 72

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