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hate the Church of Rome 3. So that the Reformed have had a Church and their Religion before Luther A Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites That because Luther was in Error in Regard of his doctrine of Consubstantiation Therefore his Refutations of their Opinions and Doctrines is not to be considerable 1. THis is a strange shift indeed for is it not a miserable perverseness in the Jesuites and others Popish Doctors and Writers that being not able to maintain their own Heresies against Luther they will think to escape in the Judgement of Men from being condemned because Luther himself in one point of Doctrine erred 2. May no man convince Error but such an one as is free from Error at all Himself 3. The Scriptures are left unto us to be our Rule of Truth by them must all Doctrine be squared and directed they sit in the highest Seat of Judgement to give Sentence in every Cause 4. With Them did Luther cut down the Popish Errors 5. But one Error of Luther cannot serve to excuse infinite Errors in the Popish Church The Reformed of England France Holland c. do not Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 1. WE are not so addicted in these Reformed Churches as to Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 2. We are no more partial unto them in this behalf then we are unto the Ancient Fathers 3. Our Religion and Faith hangeth not upon the sayings of Men be they old or young but onely upon the Canonical Scriptures of God 4. And if they be against us so long as Scripture is for us our Cause is good and we will not be ashamed thereof 5. From hence it followeth That therefore most false is it that the Papists say That our Divity resteth upon these late Writers and young Fathers whom the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors do so scornfully compare with the Old Fathers 6. We use not to alledge for proofs authentical of any Doctrine and as the Rule of our Faith Calvin Bucer or others 7. But our Traditive and Use is this Thus saith the Lord Thus say the Prophets Thus say the Apostles Thus the Evangelists Thus it is written in the Scriptures Thus we read in some Book of the Old or of the New Testament Again If Luther or any other Learned Man among the Protestants or of the Reformed in the Churches above mentioned have either Interpreted the Scripture in somthing amiss or have doubted of some one Book of Scripture whereof doubt also hath been made of old in the Church of Christ we are not to defend their Expositions or to approve their Judgement Again The particular Opinions of Luther and Lutherans are not to be objected by the Papists against the Reformation of England France the United Provinces c. 1. FOr these Reformed Churches are not bound to justifie all Luthers sayings and the Lutherans and their private Opinions no more then the Papists will be content to avouch whatsoever hath been spoken or published by any one or other famous man of their Sect. 2. Which thing if they will take upon them to perform then let them profess it or else they offer us the more injury that object still against us a saying which was never either uttered or allowed by us 3. This might suffice men of indifferent Reason § Of Luthers Error concerning the Bodily Presence in the Sacrament LVther retained this Error of his old leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgement was corrupted § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Objection made by the Jesuites against Luther in regard of his Error of Consubstantiation That therefore his Refutation of their Doctrine is not to be considerable THe Reformed again return this answer to that Objection 1. That although Luther therein somthing swarved from the Truth yet that he might bring in other Causes assured thereof out of the Word of God reject the Opinions of such as dissent from the same word 2. Otherwise no Man in Defence of Gods Truth may challenge or bid Defiance to the Adversaries thereof seeing they have no Priviledge or Charter granted to them but that themselves also may be deceived § Again Concerning Luther 1. LVther say the Reformed was an excellent Man and a worthy servant of Christ 2. Whose Ministery especially it pleased God to use in revealing to these Times the Son of Perdition who fitteth in the Temple of God and advanceth himself above God 3. Yet Luther was a Man 4. And therefore no marvel if he were not exempted altogether as from Ignorance so also from Infirmities § Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 1. 1. THis Contention and Dissention was a very hard one hotly debated in many Books 2. And the same hath continued since to the great hinderance of the Gospel and offence of many 3. In which contrary Writings and Discourses are found oftentimes harder speeches of either against other then were to be wished 4. Now do come in the Popish Writers like crafty enemies and gathering a heap of such speeches out of sundry of their Books do insert the same in their Books to make their Readers acquainted therewith that seeing such earnest contention among the chiefest Professors of the Gospel they may be further withdrawn in alienation of mind from the love and liking thereof 2. Examination of that matter 1. THose speeches of either against other which are harder oftentimes then were to be wished are yet such as the godly Servants of the Lord in contention about the Truth somtimes are moved to utter against their Brethren 1. S. Paul openly and sharply reprehended S. Peter to his face whereat wicked Porphyrie catched a like occasion to rail at Christian Religion long since as our Adversaries do at these dayes 2. What a violent and troublesome contention was there between Theophilus of Alexandria and good Chrysostome of Constantinople 3. Who knoweth not how sharply Cyrillus a learned and wise Bishop of Alexandria hath written against Theodoretus a good and Catholick Bishop in a Controversie touching the Catholique Faith both Bishops both Catholiques both Learned both Godly both Excellent Pillars of the Church And yet he that readeth both their Writings would think that both were dangerous Enemies of the Church and of the Faith of Christ and to be avoided of all Christians 2. So in the Books of Luther and of Zuinglius and of those that maintain either part appeareth we grant great sharpness and bitterness of Dissention who all notwithstanding if we set the heat of Dissention aside were as godly as learned as zealous Christians as the World had any The Reformed Religion and Church are not Heretical 1. WHat if the Romish Church condemned Luther Shall we say therefore that Luther is an Heretick 2. The Church of Jerusalem condemned Christ and Him and his they would have denyed to be the true Church but for all their Denial it was not less the true Church 3. The
that hath been set forth of the New Testament 3. And we prove our Assertion because that translation hath such examples of unaccustomed and monstrous novelties of words as the like in no other can be found 4. So as a man may justly call it a new fangled and ridiculous Translation Devised rather to amaze the Readers and make the word of God a laughing stock then to Edisie the Church of Christ 5. For who hath ever heard or read such words and Phrases as they have used and affected in their Translation 6. Whereas They might have retained as well the common and known manner of speaking That their Translation set forth in English might have been understood of English men 7. But they of purpose have so framed the same that the English is in many places as obscure in words as the Latin 8. Which thing is in all Translations a foul fault But in Translating of Holy Scripture Intolerable 9. And what Reason should be hereof but that Men either should contemn or not understand the Scripture which yet they will seem to Translate for the benefit of the Church 2. 10. If the Reader require Examples let him take but the Book and read a little and soon shall he see strange Affectation of Novelties in words and speeches throughout their whole Translation 11. There shall he sind The Transmigration of Babylon Matth. 1. v. 17. The Enemie Man Matt. 13. v. 28. Vnlesse you have Penance Luk. 13. v. 3. Give us to day our supersubstantial Bread Matt. 6. v. 11. Whatsoever thou shalt supererogate Luk. 10. v. 36. Not in Chamberings and Impudicites Rom. 13.13 An Emulator of the Traditions of my Fathers Gal. 1.14.24 I Expugned the Faith They Emulate you not well Gal. 4.17 That you might Emulate Them 1 Pet. 2.5 Be ye also your selves superedified Ephe. 4. v. 10. Once at length you have reflorished to care for me denying the onely Dominator and our Lord Jud. 4. To the Redemption of Acquisition Ephes 1. v. 14. Against the Spirituals of wickedness in the Celestials Ephes 6. v. 12. The Archisynagogue Mark 6. v. 22. Ebrieties Commessations Gal. 5. v. 21. The Dominical day Apoc. 1. v. 10. But they are written to our Correption 1 Cor. 10. v. 11. That in the Name of Jesus every knee bow of the Celestials Terrestrials and Infernals Philip. 2. v. 10. But he Exinanited himself Philip. 2.7 For with such hostes God is promerited Hebr. 13. v. 16. Let the Charity of the Fraternity abide in you Heb. 13. v. 1. O Timothy keep the Depositum 1 Tim. 6.20 That he might repropriate the sins of the people Heb. 2.17 Wrapt it in Sindon and laid it in a Monument Matt. 27.59 All shall be docible of God John 6. v. 45. Vpon probatica a Pond John 5. v. 2. Which of you shall argue me of Sin John 8. v. 46. They hated me gratis John 15. v. 26. Beyond the Torrent Cedron John 18. v. 1. It was the Parasceve of Pasche John 19.14 3. 1. These and such like are the goodly flowers of the Rhemists English Translation 4. 2. Besides the obscurity and ambiguity of Sentences by Reason of leaving out the Verbs and other words in the English Translation which may in Latine more easily be understood 5. Hereby the Reader may judge but better by Reading the Translation it self whether we have not Truely said of it That it is a strange Translation indeed And such an one as hard it were to find the Like 6. 1. But one of the Rhemist Priests doth Answer That we Reformed rather Delight in such Novelty then They seeing they Retain the Ancient words Mass Priests c. And we Reformed refuse them 2. Of these words shall be spoken in our particular handling of Controversies between the Reformed Churches and the Roman 3. And as for certain Names of persons and of places which some of our Interpreters do reduce to the Hebrew Sound They cannot much trouble the Reader And they are rather used in Books then in Speech EXERCITATION Condemnation of the Annotations joined with the Rhemist Translation of the New Testament By the Seminary Priests of Rhemes 1. WHosoever shall consider with himself advisedly the Rhemists Manner of Collection Their Argument Their Application of Scripture And shall Examine a little how their Conclusion followeth upon their Proofs without all Coherence or consequence of Reason must needs greatly mislike their whole Religion that is founded upon so weak so tickle and so ruinous a Foundation 2. For unless it be granted That of every Thing may be concluded any Thing and that the Word of God may be made applicable to all purposes opinions and Doctrines it is impossible that these and such like arguments of Theirs as they have in their Annotations gathered upon the words of Scripture should have in them such strength and Truth as Divinity and Religion requireth These be the Frauds of the Church of Rome Concerning another of their Principles Which is the Ancient Fathers 1. Fraud The Church of Rome doth Discover an abominable Fraud in this That putting the Ancient Fathers to be one of the Principles of their Doctrine of Faith and Religious Worship by an Expurgatory Index they cause to be blotted out of the Books of the Ancient Fathers all that is displeasing unto them Or else they falsifie them and alter their Sense and Meaning 1. THis is true in Regard of the most Ancient Fathers and particularly of the Books of S. Cyprian S. Chrysostome S. Augustine S. Cyril of Alexandria and of others They make them say the contrary to that which they will and take out from them not onely some Clauses but also whole Leafes 2. We know well that to cover this Sacriledge Sixtus of Sienna doth adde That those Writings of the Fathers had been soiled and infected by the Malice and Venome of the Hereticks of our Age But it is a False Cover For if by Hereticks he doth understand those of the Reformed Religion we maintain that which they cause to be blotted out of the Writings of the Fathers was in Them before the Reformation And That it cannot be Justified that any of the Reformed have Corrupted or Altered any Writings of the Fathers 2. Fraud The Church of Rome acknowledgeth That there are many Faults and Errors in the Books of the Ancient Fathers which are not to be Approved And notwithstanding That The Popish Religion is as it were a Body consisting for the most part of Rottennesse and Corruption Namely of Ancient and New Errors 1. 1. THe Popish Writers can as soon prove out of the Scriptures the following Points of their false Doctrine As they can draw a Fountain of water out of a flint 2. These Points of the Popish false Doctrines are 1. Thir Doctrine of Free will 2. Their Doctrine of the Merit of Works 3. Their Doctrine of Purgatory 4. Their Doctrine of the Sacrifice of the Masse for the sins of Quick and Dead 5. Their Transubstantiation 6. Their
thought that in such things each several Church is left to her own Judgement and Liberty so as she keep her self to the general Apostolique Rule of Order and Edification and to the general Judgement and Practise of the Church Universal See Tertull. de virg vetand cap. 1. Fermit apud Cyprian Epist 75. August Epist so Socrat. Hist lib. 5. cap. 21. c. 9. Though the Body of Religion in divers Reformed Churches and Countries be clothed in divers Suits and Fashions yet for substance it may be one in all In all these contestations as it commonly falls out blessed be God they that are for Truth have ever been for Charity and mutual Toleration as appears by their published Writings all tending to Pacification Vide Junii Parae scripta Irenica 10. Luther himself though of a rough and vehement Spirit yet before his death being tempered by milde Melanchton that honour of Germany did much relent and remit of his rigour against Zuinglius and began to approve the good Counsels of Peace Admonit Neustad de Libro Concord cap. 6. p. 236. And 11. Among the Lutherans all are not of the same intractable Disposition As they in Polonia for instance where the followers of Luther and Calvin have long lived together in a fair and brotherly concord and communion notwithstanding their several Opinions which they still retain vide Corpu Confess Et ibi Poloniae consensum 12. Since then our Discords are of no higher Degree we say as Prudentius a Christian Poet of the Unity of his Times It hath been a little violated but is defended by Faith her Sister in whose company being safely come off she laugheth at her wounds as being easily curable Fraud A Discovery and Refutation of a New Way and Subtle Cunnings of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes against the Reformed Religion 1. THis Way and Cunning is to bring continual Allegations of Testimonies out of the Reformed own Writers craftily brought in their Books to shew a dissention of Judgement among the said Reformed Writers that so the Readers of the Books of those Popish Writers may be Induced to think the worse of the Reformed Religion 2. A Refutation of this New Slight and Device THis Device is full of Fraud Dishonesty and Malice taking Advantage of Mens Infirmities and Imperfections against the Eternal Truth of God which the said Popish Doctors cannot by ordinary and lawful kind of Reasoning Refute Concerning the Acknowledgement of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes That three Articles of the Controversies which were propounded by Bishop Jewell in this Sermon at Paul 's Cross in which he made his Callange were and are of weight 1. The Supremacy of the Pope 2. The Corporal Presence 3. And the Sacrifice of the Mass Examination of this Acknowledgement of the Seminary Priest by the Reformed Doctors 1. 1. IN that acknowledgement the Seminary Priest hath uttered his Judgement of the rest of the Articles that are in Controversie that they are not of such weight as his Church would have them to be esteemed 2. And of these three Articles he might with as good Reason have excepted the two latter and so make the first only a matter of weight 3. For that Article indeed is the substantial Point in maintenance whereof all the Popish Writers Labours are bestowed otherwise were it not for defence of their Popes wicked unreasonable Antichristian Monarchy they could easily agree with us for these two and for all the rest we doubt not 2. But what did the Priest in his Acknowledgement think then 1. Of Private Mass Is it a thing of no weight as there he would have it accounted There is not we suppose any thing in the Rome Church more used or better liked 2. What he did think of the half Communion 3. What he did think of the Latine Service 4. What he did think of Images 5. What did he think of the keeping of the Scriptures in a Tongue unknown to the People 6. And what did he think of other such Heads of the Romish Religion 3. 1. Are they of no weight Are they Trifles Are they not worth the striving for 2. Then let the Popish Writers give over all defence of them 1. Let Private Masses be abolished 2. Let the Communion be administred in both kinds according to Christs institution 3. Let the publick prayers be said in the Tongue that every Countrey useth 4. Let Images be burned 5. And all Idolatry forbidden 6. Let it be lawful for the People of all Countries to read the Scripture in their own Language 7. Let there be no controversie about the other Articles 3. For while they stand so stifly in maintenance of all these and others They cannot truly say and bear us in hand That they are not of weight in their Account The Reformed Churches truly and properly so called are Pure and Orthodox Churches And their Faith is sound and not Hereticall as falsly they are termed by the Church of Rome 1. IT is that which must be acknowledged by some certain Notes and Marks For as we judge of Coine by the pair of Gold Weights and of Metals by the Touch-stone and of Glassen and Earthen Pots by the sound so ought we to judge of the Church by her Marks 2. The true Touch-stone of the Church is the Truth It is the Scripture It is the Word of God For the true Sheep of Christ are those who hear the voice who know him and follow him John 10.27 It is the Lords Camp who marcheth after this Pillar And the Apostles Church is builded upon the Foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-stone Ephes 2.20 We hear saith St. Augustine found Christ in the Scriptures let us also seek there the Church And if they have the Church on their side let them show it onely by the Canonical Books of the Divine Scriptures As to know whether a Line be strait a strait Rule is applied unto it Even also to discern a pure Church from an impure there is no other means than to see and observe whether it doth agree with the Rule of Practice which is the Word of God 3. Under which Word of God the pure Administration of the Sacraments of the Church is also to be comprehended Because the right use of them is prescribed in the Word of God 4. Now by this true and certain mark of the Church we prove that the truly Reformed Churches are pure and Orthodox Churches because from point to point they follow it The Articles of their Doctrine as the generous young Eagle do fixly behold the Sun and without at all feeling the Eye-lids 5. If it were true as it is pretended by our Adversaries of the Church of Rome that the Religion of the said Churches should be false and that they were deceived then it should follow that Christ the Prophets and the Apostles should have deceived them Because they defend their Institutions and imbrace their Doctrine which to think onely
restrain them what we can what we cannot we suffer 6. But we do not for the Tares sake forsake the Field For the Chaffe leave the Floor of Christ For the evil Fish break the Net For the Goats sake refuse the Fold of Christ 7. When Religion was partly corrupted partly contemned in Israel and the Prophets cried go out from them and touch no unclean thing Did they then sever themselves from them In Evang. Serm. 8. I find no such thing saith Augustine yet doubtless they did themselves what their Prophets willed others to do 8. Hoc ergo est exire ore non Parcere hoc Immundum non tangere voluntate non consentire 9. Liber in conspectu Dei est cui nec Deus sua peccata imputat quae non fecit Neque aliena quae non approbavit Neque negligentiam quia non tacuit Neque Superbiam quia ab unitate Ecclesiae non necessit There is a necessity to have a certain Form of Liturgie for the publick Administration of all the Parts of Divine Worship in the Christian Church 1. THis certain and set Form of Publick Liturgie is necessary to entertain Uniformity in a National Church 2. There was such an one in the Eastern and Western Churches as it appears by their Liturgies which are in our hands 3. There is such an one in all the Reformed National Churches As in the National Reformed Church of France And in that of the Low-countries And in the Church of Geneva And in the Reformed Churches of Germany c. 4. By such a certain and set Form of publick Liturgie no wrong or injurie is done to the Holy Ghost as if one would undertake to inclose him within the Bars of certain Words For if that were true Christ should have committed such a fault because he hath given to his Apostles and with them to the whole Church an express and set Form of Prayer David also should have committed the like fault having given us in his Psalms so many Forms of Prayer of Thanksgiving and of confession of Sins Rather let us say that the set Form of Prayer of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Forms mentioned of the Prophet David being proceeded from the Holy Ghost the Will of God is that we make use of them to call upon him by prayer and to render thanks unto him by the very words of his Holy Spirit 5. And concerning the Ecclesiastical set Form which we require and commend by it we do not pretend to prescribe any thing to the Holy Ghost But besides the benefit of a National Uniformity our scope is to succour our common Infirmitie which is done when the Minister in the Administration of the parts of publick Divine Worship doth make use of the help of the Church thereupon and esteems it better to perform it in certain and set words then to let out from his mouth impertinent and ill digested conceptions and words 6. It is left to the liberty of every National Church to frame such a set Form of Liturgie §. The Reformed State and Church of England do condemn utterly and publickly Anabaptists Atheists the Family of Love and also the Separatists 1. ANd if notwithstanding that condemnation there be such in the State of England and secretly in the Church thereof so have there been alwayes Hereticles and wicked persons in the Church 2. And in respect of them the Reformed Religion of the Church of England is no more to be accused then the good Corn may justly be condemned because together with it many Tares and Weeds spring up and cannot be avoided §. From the time of the Reformation of the State and Church of England the Jesuites and Priests did never cease to trouble them and assault them 1. 1. IT is not unknown to the Soveraign Prince and also to the subordinate Magistrates of England how since the Reformation of the Religion and Church of that Kingdom the Adversaries Popes Jesuites and Priests have never ceased to trouble the State thereof and that by their Books in great number written and published and by all other means that possibly they were able to devise and also to defame that holy Religion of Christ which through Gods great mercy and the godly Laws of the Soveraigns is according to Gods word established in this State 2. What they have wrought with many of all Estates and how mightily they have prevailed with that strong and effectual 〈◊〉 of Sathan which hath advanced Antichrist un●● that Supremacie of Power Authority and Credit in the World whereof the Holy Ghost by S. Paul and by S. John hath foretold lamentable experience can witness And that in the backfliding and continual Apostating of many a way from us to the final perdition of such Apostates to the grief of the Godly and to the great encouragement and comfort of the Enemy 2. ANd we have no doubt that all the English Jesuites and Seminarie Priests of Rome or of the Colledge of Rhemes are all most wilfully bent and earnestly disposed to do what harm any of them possibly can to the Church of England §. All the English Jesuites and Seminary Priests by their writings have gained nothing against the Reformed Religion of England 1. THese English old Souldiers of the Popish party Sanders Harding Allen Stapleton Bristol have imployed in the assailing of the Reformed Religion of England whatsoever Either Reading Or Leasure Or Cunning. Or Wit Or Diligence Or Malice Could supply unto them and for all this have gained nothing 2. Should New-discovered others of that kind that are not worthy to be compared with these hope to Reform that wherein they have failed §. Refutation of the Censure of the Manners of the State and Church of England made by the Jesuites 1. HE that reproveth the Manners of others it were meet that he should be without fault 2. Now is there so great a change made of Rome upon the sudden Is their Life now such Are there Manners begun to be so godly that the Jesuites being thence returned here Friers dare strive with us about Vertue Shamefastness and Honesty 3. Howsoever there be in England many things done which ought not to be done Yet if the Jesuites shall say that there is as great Impunity and Licentiousness of sins in England as they themselves have seen at Rome which is the very Towre of their Religion and Kingdom all men will judge them to be too too impudent 4. Surely as long as those publick Stewes and Dens of Whores stand still in Rome the Jesuites could scarce honestly make mention of Manners Of the English Service Book and of the Change in it since the beginning of the Reformation in the Raign of Edward the Sixt. 1. THe first Service Book of King Edward was not altogether approved by Bucer and Peter Martyr but in some things reproved As the censure of Bucer upon the same doth declare Vide Bucer Script Anglican pag. 428. 2. That first Service-book was rather
the Ancient Fathers are not in such Assertions contrary to themselves 2. Were not the Apostles Holy Men when they dreamed of an Earthly Kingdom in this World Yet this Opinion is contrarie to a principal Article of our Faith Were They void of Holiness when they believed that the Gospel was to be preached to the Jews onely Which is greatly Derogatory to the Grace of God and Salvation of his people Then every Error doth not overthrow all holiness in the servants of God 3. In the Primitive Church many Holy Fathers were infected with the Error of Christs Reigning a thousand years on earth who notwithstanding are worthily accounted Saints of God 4. Cyprian and many Godly Bishops with him erred about the Baptism Ministred by Hereticks Yet lost they not for all that the Opinion and Name of Holy Bishops and Fathers 5. All such errors mentioned were such as in the before named Fathers did not raze the Foundation of the Gospel § There is great difference between the Errors of the Antient Fathers And those of the present Church of Rome And Popish Doctors 1. THe Fathers slipt a little The Popish Doctors and Papists are fallen headlong into the pit 2. The Fathers were overseen through infirmitle The Popish Doctors and Papists are blind of Malice 5. The Fathers scattered some Darnel in the Lords Field The Popish Doctors and Papists have plucked up by the Roots the good Corn. 4. The Fathers have suffered losse of this building being not agreeable to the foundation yet are saved The Popish Doctors and Papists overthrow indirectly and by good consequence the foundation it self And therefore continuing in these opinions what hope can they have to be saved § Examination of these words of Luther reproved by the Popish Writers That he was not moved though a thousand Austins Cyprians Churches be against him The Popish Writers BY these words say the Popish Writers Luther did shew that he was unmeasurable Arrogant and wilful Answer to that Accusation and Presumption 1. LVther's Spirit was far from this Insolent and Immoderate Presumption as may by his own words appear ‖ Contra Regem Angliae For he saith not that he more setteth by his own private judgment then he doth by all the Fathers and Doctors But he saith That he setteth against the sayings of the Fathers of Men of Angels of Devils the Word of the onely Eternal Majestie the Gospel And again immediately he saith The Word of God is above all The Majestie of God maketh with me That I care not though a thousand Augustines and Cyprians stood against we 2. Is this to set his private judgment against All the Fathers Is this Pride Is this Presumption Must Gods word and Majesty and Gospel yield to the judgment of Fathers be they never so many 3. Luther did not think so but meant this by the words alledged against him If Augustine or Gyprian or any other Father maintain any thing against Gods Word Luther or any other Minister of Christ may in such Case preferre his Judgement warranted by the word of God before theirs 4. If the Popish Doctors deny this they are not worthy to be called Christians 5. And yet closely They doe deny it in that they reprove Luther and condemn him for saying the same §. Objections against this Answer of the Reformed by the Popish Writers 1. Objection YOu Reformed say the said Writers can bring no Instance that ever the Ancient Fathers did so Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. HAve the Popish Writers forgotten what fell out in the first Council of Nice when the Fathers agreeing to dissolve the Marriage of Ministers were withstood by Paphnutius and yielded in the end Here one Paphnutius Judgement was preferred before all the other three hundreds of Fathers 2. And so oftentimes the Judgement of many hath been corrected by one S. Angustine saith whether of Christ Contra Petil. lib. 3. cap. 6. or of his Church or of any other thing that appertaineth to our Faith and Life I will not say We not to be compared to him that said Though we But as he added If an Angel from Heaven shall Preach any thing besides that ye have received in the Legal and Evangelical Scriptures let him be accursed If we may accurse them how many and whosoever they be that Teach contrary to the Prophetical and Apostolical Scriptures then may we prefer our Judgement in such Cases before them 3. In another place S. Augustine saith August Epist 19. For all these namely Fathers yea above all these the Apostle Paul offereth himself I flie to Him I appeal to Him from all Writers that think otherwise Thus was S. Augustine bold to write even to S. Jerome and feared not any suspicion either of Arrogancy or of Heresie for the same 4. Such Account then must we make of the Truth that we must stand with it against all the world and not for the Reverence of mens Persons give it over or betray it or be afraid to defend it 2. Objection THough the Fathers in the Councils of Nice of Ephesus of Chalcedon had alledged no direct and evident Place against Arius and Nestorius and Eutiches yet the Christian People was bound to believe them grounding themselves onely upon the Catholick and Universal Faith of the Churches before them Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. THis is boldly and bluntly spoken 2. These Godly and Catholick Fathers Assembled in Council against these Hereticks Confuted them by the Authority of Gods Word and as it were did cut the throat of their Heresies with the Sword of the Spirit This is onely the Weapon then used And with this they prevailed 3. As likewise have all other godly Councils ever done against the Hereticks and enemies of the Church The Fathers have Errors and the Doctors of the Roman Church do acknowledge it 1. IT is confessed by our Adversaries that the Fathers had their Errors 2. And themselves in divers cases challenge and censure them 3. There is none of the Fathers saith Stapleton in which something erroneous may not be observed And Anselm saith in the books of those holy Doctors which the Church readeth as Authentical some things are found wicked and heretical And Mulhusinus the Jesuite We know the Fathers were men and erred sometimes 4. Before the Pelagian Heresie arose Augustine was deceived in the matter of divine grace and freewill And although the same Father is many times Orthodox in the Question of Purgatory yet at other times he varieth at least doubtfully from his own sounder judgment The Reformed justly exclude from the rule of Faith the Determinations of the Pope 1. WE have said before That the Determinations of the Pope is the onely Rule of Faith in the Roman Church 2. Now then this being the Papists own certain Rule and Ground and Resolution We Reformed would gladly be Enformed How by the same a man may be assured of any Faith It being further also agreed
that regard they sate at the last in Councils As namely in the sixth Council of Carthage And in the Council of Gregory the first And the Gallicane Church in her Remonstrances to the Council of Canstance saies these words Cardinals are the Rectors or Parsons of the Parochial Churches at Rome They have their Dignities in their parishes and their First and principal Office is To hear Confessions To preach and to Baptize c. 6. But Onuphrius saith in Libro de Cardinalibus That when Pope Clement the 2. about the year 1046. had strengthened the Papal Majesty Leo the 9. about the year 1049. did begin to raise up the State of Cardinals at Rome 7. Unto whom afterwards Innocent the 4. about the year 1244. gave the priviledge of the Red Hat Of the Scarlet Gown And to go on Horseback through the Citie 8. And in the year 1470. Paul the 2. did confirm it 9. And since Clement the 5. went so far in his Clementines as to make them march before all the Princes of the earth 10. But that the beginning of Cardinals had been such as hath been represented Besides the consent of the whole History it doth appear by the following things 1. It doth appear by this That Antiently there were onely 28 of them That is to say as many as of Titles and of the parishes at Rome 2. That doth appear by this That as the Popes were willing to make a great number of Cardinals they did also increase the number of the Parishes of Rome 3. That doth appear by this That above a thousand years lasting the least Bishop had the precedence of a Cardinal how Ancient soever he might be And even the Dean likewise 4. That doth appear by this That the Cardinalat was a Degree to become Bishop And that he who of a Cardinal was made Bishop did cease to be Cardinal which was not altered but about the year 1190 by Pope Clement the third 5. That doth appear by this That among the Cardinal Bishops the Precedence was taken from the Promotion to the Bishoprick and not to the Cardinalship The Cardinals being esteemed inferiours to Bishops and onely more then simple Priests Alexander the 3. did change that after he had troden under feet the Emperor Frederick about the year 1180. making thenceforth the Cardinals Bishops and the Cardinals not Bishops to have the precedence of Bishops Archbishops Primates Patriarchs c. 6. That doth appear by this That the Church of Ravenna in Italy had her Cardinals and kept them a long time which also in the time of Charles the Great did maintain That she held nothing of Rome 11. Concerning Cardinal Deacons the books of the Church of Rome do teach us That there was but one there in the beginning which was called so because he was the Principal Deacon called by us Arch-Deacon of the seven Deacons that were in that City that is to say one for two Regions which were called Regionarie Deacons having the care of the Alms. Since they were 14 one for a Region and afterwards 18. To give 4 of them to Latran and at last they were all Cardinals and that without Number 12. It must not be wondred at Then if the Canonists do Dispute that the Cardinals have no Rank in the Church and that they are neither Instituted by Christ nor by his Apostles c. 13 Neither also must we wonder if even the Cardinal of Alliaco among the Articles which he presented to the Council of Constance Libr. de Reform at the Request of the Emperour Sigismond did give counsel to extinguish them as superfluous and added without cause This is an Observation greatly to be considered namely That the Arguments used in the Church of Rome for Defence of their Erroneous Doctrines before the coming in of the Jesuites are declared by the Jesuites themselves to have been but sleight and weak Arguments Jesuites OUr Ancestors saies one of the Jesuites otherwise most wise men having not alwaies to Debate with wilful Spirits did not strictly stand upon exact Form of Teaching Answer to that by the Reformed 1. THe cause is the more desperate when such wise men could find no better Arguments to maintain it but such as even the Jesuites themselves confesse to be but weak 2. And both their Heresies were then too credulous to believe And the Jesuites are now ridiculous to defend such loose Arguments as they do § By the above observation it doth manifestly appear That the Jesuites that now have taken upon them to defend the Doctrine Erroneous of the Church of Rome of all the Sophisters of that Church are the greatest 1. THe Jesuites puts now down all the Ancient Sophisters of the Church of Rome for deceipt and fraud themselves being yet but upstarts 2. For if there were ever any kingdom of poor blind men over the stark blind questionless it is now wholy descended unto the Jesuites 3. To whom the former Popish Doctors as also the Ancienter Orders of Monks and Friars do willingly yeild the Garland because they think that they see something Of all the Sophisters Jesuites Bellarmine a Jesuite is the greatest and most Vniversal as appears by the Representation and Observation of his Faults 1. REading the Controversies of Cardinal Bellarmine concerning Religion we find two kinds of Faults in them Some are General And the others are Particular 2. These be some of his General Faults 1. To make shew and parade of his Learning he propounds and moves Questions too curious as also unprofitable 2. He refutes the Antient Errors with too great prolixitie and labour which were not to be drawn out of Hell wherein in times past truth had made them fall 3. He unjustly reproves the Reformed Doctors and slanders them being beholding unto them for many matters that he hath taken from them though he doth not vouchsafe to acknowledg it 4. When he loses all hope to be helped by holy Scriptures he doth strengthen himself by the Authority of the Fathers and of the Councils and of Miracles 5. Against all right and reason to maintain and uphold his Capitolin god which is the Pope he alleadges unto us the Popes in their own Cause as Judges or witnesses 6. Also to prove his Assertions he alleadges and produce that which hath been done by the Pope Whereas it was to be known in regard of Right whether they ought to do such things 7. To procure glory and fame unto himself and being stirred by Ambition he blames and rebukes every kind of persons even his own Doctors and moreover the holy Scriptures 8. Having undertaken to uphold an Error he hoth sink in the mud the more when he goes on 4. Concerning the particular Faults of the said Cardinal they appear in every point of controversie which he handles against the Reformed Churches Which particular Faults are clearly discovered and solidly refuted by the Doctors of the said Churches who did undertake the Answer to the said Controversie §. An
not Obey the Pope Why came they not to the Council of Trent The Pope by all means hath sought to have them subject to Him but they still contemn him to his no small grief 2. It is true the Emperour the Patriarch and a multitude of Bishops came to the Florentine Council they agreed with them in many Things in others they dissented the Popish Transubstantiation they utterly renounced 3. At that time Josephus their Patriarch suddenly died Eugenius the Pope instantly urged a new Election they denied to make any till they came to Constantinople 4. Do not the Papists see how well they agree We have a Book of Cyril Patriarch of Constantinople in which is set down the Confession of their present Faith whereby it appeareth manifestly that they are farre nearer to the Reformed Churches in Beleif then they are to the Roman 1. The Turks are beholding to none more then to the Pope for their Possession of Greece and the Eastern Empire which hath caused the Miserable Slavery of the Greek Churches 1. IF As our Saviour Christ saith A Kingdome divided against it self cannot stand then the breaking of the strength of the Empire and weakning the power of the Christians and consequently strengthning the Turks must all be inputed to him which did rent and divide the Roman Christian Empires and of one Empire made two 2. As long as the Province and Dominions of the Empire were united We were strong enough against the Turks 3. But After Pope Leo the 10. divided the Empire the Empire of Constantinople which before had much adoe to resist the Turk was now no longer able to sustain the Burthen wanting the greatest part of the Empire 2. O Christian Princes and States unite your selves and consequently join your Forces together to pluck off from that Infidell the Turk the Empire of Greece and to join it with that of the West that so both as in Times past make but one Empire THESIS Of the Reformation of the Church in general 1. VVHen the Church is infected with Errors in the Doctrine or loaded with unlawful Ceremonies or Governed by an evil Ecclesiastical Policie the Reformation thereof is not permitted to the People without the consent of the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate 2. But such a Reformation is to be made by the Prince and Soveraign as being a Right which belongeth unto him and which belongeth unto him by Divine and Humane Right 3. Neither also is it lawful to a Minister of a particular Church to change at his will the Ceremonies of his Church but if they are not to be tolerated he must with his Church make his Addresses to the Supream Magistrate to obtain from him the necessary Reformation of the same 4. The Prince being to imploy himself about the Reformation of the Church when she hath need of a Reformation ought to that effect to consult the Divines of his Countrey the most Learned the most Prudent and the most Godly and to convoke a National Synod composed of such Men. 5. It will be well done also by him to join unto his own Divines the Divines of other Reformed Churches that by that Means greater weight may be given to the Reformation which he will effect 6. The Divines assembled must carefully seek out the Truth and when they have found it the Prince ought to ordain and injoin the observation thereof 7. The said National Synod or Assembly of Divines ought to extend the Reformation of the Church to four Heads namely 1. To the Doctrine concerning Faith 2. To the Divine Worship and Service 3. To Ceremonies and outward things 4. To the Ecclesiastical Policy and Government of the Church 8. And in regard of the abovesaid four Heads the said Synod or Assembly of Divines ought to Reform the Church according to the best Form of all 9. Now a better Form of the Church cannot be conceived nor found than that according to which Jesus Christ by himself and by his Apostles did in the beginning establish and confirm the Church 10. Which hath been the Form of the Church in the Times of Christ and of his Apostles we learn it clearly out of the Books of the Evangelists and of the Acts of the Apostles and probably out of the Writings of the Doctors of the Church who lived immediately after the death of the Apostles 11. According to this Form the Church ought to be Reformed in regard of the above named four Heads bringing them back to the first beginning and to the first Springs Thas is to say to the first Antiquity 12 If it happens that between some National Reformed Churches there be a difference in regard of Ceremonies and outward things agreeing well together in regard of the Doctrine for such a difference in Ceremonies the said Churches must not be enemies one to the others But they ought to bear one another Charitably and profitably Of the 1. Reformators Luther Calvin c. What Esteem the Protestants make of the last Reformers Luther Calvin and their Associates And how far it doth extend 1. THe Protestants especially we of the Church of England acknowledge not any factious names of Lutherans Zwinglians or Calvinists with which we are injuriously nick-named by our Adversaries As of old good Orthodox Christians were called Cornelians and Cyrillians by the seditious followers of Novatus and Nestorius Phot. Cod. 280. in Excerptis Eulogii ad finem Libri Act. Conciliab Ephes in Epist Legat. Schism ad suos in Epheso pag. 281. Edit Bin. 1618. 2. With Pacianus we professe Christian is our Name and Catholick our Sur-name 3. We esteem of Luther Zwinglius and Calvin as worthy men but we esteem them not worthy to be Lords or Authours of our Faith or to lead our understanding captive both themselves were far from affecting such Divine Honour and we far from bestowing it We remember who said of Christ Hear him not hear them 4. And therefore though these mens reasons may gain our Assent their Testimony is at the best but probable we believe not what they say but what the prove 5. Much lesse can we endure being once baptized in the name of Christ to be marked with the name of any man as with a note of our servitude We disclaim the name of Calvinists we owe no service we have no dependance upon Calvin nor upon any other man as Doctor or Master of our Faith 6. We owe him and the rest of the first Reformers many thanks for their painful labours which shall remain of honourable account in all posterity We cannot bless God sufficiently for such Instruments of his glory Yet we do not Idolize their persons or adore their Dictates and Opinions as if they were Divine Oracles That Doctor who hath the command of our Conscience hath his Chair in Heaven we love and honour such persons as our Friends yet so that we honour Truth and love it above all Friendship Which Churches and Assemblies we comprehend Properly under the Appellation of
Reformed Churches 1. THey are the Churches which are entirely Reformed of which by Gods Grace we are Members 2. That is to say those Churches who having the true Marks of the Church have them also with all the Purity which is required in regard of the Doctrine of Faith and in regard of the Worship of God 1. 1. The Socinians 2. The Anabaptists Are not comprehended by the Protestants under the Appellation of Reformed and True Churches Because in their Assemblies the very Notes of the True Church do not appear 1. FOr we do not comprehend under that Appellation those Assemblies who having forsaken Idolatry Superstitions and some Errors of the Roman Church are fallen into others very great and most pernicious Such are the Assemblies of the Socinians or the New Samosatenians And such also are the Assemblies of the Anabaptists In which Assemblies the very Notes and Marks of the true Church do not appear The Reformed Religion is True and Orthodox 1. 1. THe Reformed Churches Faith is sound That appears in their Belief of God the Father Of his onely Son Jesus Christ Of the Holy Ghost Of the Church Of the Sacraments Of the Ministery Of the Scriptures Of Ceremonies And of every part of Christian Belief 2. They abandon and detest as plagues and poysons all those old Heresies which either the Sacred Scriptures or the Ancient Councils have utterly condemned 3. They call home again as much as in them lieth the right Discipline of the Church which our Adversaries have quite brought into a poor and weak case 4. They punish all licentiousness of Life and unruliness of Manners by the Old and long continued Laws And with as much sharpness as is convenient and lieth in their power They maintain still the state of Kingdomes in the same Condition and State of Honour wherein they have found them without any diminution or alteration Reserving unto their Princes their Majesty and Worldly Preheminence safe and without impairing to their possible power 6. They have so gotten themselves away from that Popish Church which the Popes had made a Den of Thieves and wherein nothing was in good frame or like to the Church of God as Lot in times past gat him out of Sodome or Abraham out of Chalde Not upon a desire of Contention but by the warning of God himself 7. They have searched out of the holy Bible which they are sure cannot deceive them their sure Form of Religion and have returned again unto the Primitive Church of the Apostles and of the Ancient Fathers that is to say to the ground and beginning of things unto the very foundations and head-springs of Christs Church The Reformed Churches are the same in kinde with all the good Churches which were before them 1. THe Reformed Churches are the same with all Good Churches that had been in the World before them and do succeed the sound and firm Members of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of true Religion in the substantial matter of Faith and Godliness 2. But they having shaken off their former Errors they differ from them in manner and quality As a man who was deceived in sundry things when he becomes wiser differs from himself as he was Ignorant 3. And as a sick body when it is healed and a Commonwealth after it hath reformed disorders are in substance the same but differ in in Quality and in Goodness so the Protestant Churches have purged sundry corruptions and perfected that which was defective But are the same in kinde with all the good Churches and Christians that were before them And succeeds them of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of Faith and of Religion Concerning the Antiquity of the Reformed Religion Jesuites THe Jesuites say That the Reformed for fifteen hundred Years could not spy out one Town one Village one House seasoned with the Doctrine that they follow Now. Answer of the Reformed 1. THe Reformed do answer That such an Accusation is very false for in the Apostles time all Churches all Cities and Towns every Family embraced the same Faith and Religion which now they profess 2. Antichrist that Man of Sin could never prevail so much nor so far in corrupting the Christian Religion and Church but a great multitude of the Saints remained and those whose Names were written in the Book of Life did utterly abhor all those filthy and wicked Superstitions of Antichrist For in the Church of Rome it self even in the worst times of it many were ever found who worshipped the God of their Fathers and kept themselves unpolluted with that horrible Idolatry And this can Histories of all Times witness which we could now Recite Vide Catalog Testium veritatis if it were needful and reckon up to the Jesuites many Houses Villages Towns Cities and Countries where Christ had many and populous Churches 3. We add That the Greek Church could never yet be brought to joyn it self to the Roman Church and it is now as opposite to Her as ever the Reformed was and is 4. Furthermore we answer to this Question of the Jesuites Where was your Church for so many years before Luther That it did never lie so hid but it was discerned by their Pope unless for so many years he persecuted shaddows § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Question of the Jesuites Where was the Reformed Religion before the Reformation made by Luther and other Divines 1. THey answer That the Apostles and the Primitive Church for almost six hundred years after Christ taught as they do 2. They answer That ever since that time there have been some that have contended for the maintenance of the Faith which they profess For Example 1. In matter of Supremacy they taught as the Reformed do till after Gregories time which was six hundred years after Christ yea Gregory himself writing against them of Constantinople held this Language If any shall call himself Vniversal Bishop I say it confidently that he is Antichrist 3. In matter of the Sacrament for a thousand years together that the People received the Wine as vvell as the Bread Aquinas cannot deny 3. In the point of Images at first the Church admitted no Images at all as Erasmus and Gregory sheweth yea Polydore Virgil confesseth That the Fathers condemned Images for fear of Idolatry and this continued till the second Nicene Council But now of late the Trent Council and Bellarmine have given unto them Divine honour 4. Bristow a Popish Doctor confesseth this The Truth is saith he that some have been in all Ages of the Protestants Opinion 5. And Illiricus Flaccus doth remember one Reynerius who discoursing of the Waldenses a People for substance of the Protestants Religion saith in these termes They are in all the Cities of Lombardy and of Provence No Sect hath continued so long Some say it hath been since Pope Sylvesters time Some since the Apostles These Waldenses believe all Articles concerning God but they
Accusation of being Heretical nothing touches our Reformed Religion and Church For by Gods Grace we are far from all kinde of Heresie and hold no other Doctrine then that which the Prophets and the Apostles and Jesus Christ himself have taught us and which is plainly contained in the Books of Canonical Scripture § The Jesuites maintain the contrary but by a Falfe Ground which is one of their great slights Jesuites 1. THe Doctrine of the Jesuites is That for not to be an Heretick one must have Communion with the Church of Rome and acknowledge the Pope to be Vicar of Christ and Successor of S. Peter in the Quality of Head and Monarch of the Church which Church of Rome they presuppose to be the Catholique Church Answer of the Reformed 1. THe Reformed do answer to that Doctrine of the Jesuites That it must first appear that the Now Church of Rome is the Catholique Church before he that is separated from his Communion can be justly convicted of Heresie which is also to be said concerning the Pope It must appear that he is S. Peters Successor and the Head and Monarch of the Church 2. Which the Jesuites shall never be able to do and yet never have done for since the time that the Ancient Fathers of the Church did call the Church of Rome Catholick Church the course of that Church is turned and the See of Rome hath declined and degenerated from her sincere Faith to detestable falshood 3. Let the Jesuites restore unto us the old Church of Rome and we will never separate our selves from her Communion 4. But of that Church they have nothing left but the Walls and old Rubbish 5. And yet still they brag of the Name of the Catholique Church Exception of the Jesuites SO indeed Calvin answereth say the Jesuites But it shall not serve the Reformeds turn for Optatus say they proveth himself to be in the Catholique Church because he joyned himself to S. Peters Chair Answer of the Reformed to that Exception ANd what do the Jesuites call S. Peters Chair 1. Is it the external Seat or the Succession of the Bishops They shall never prove it 2. And the contrary say the Reformed we can easily object out of Optatus himself Optatus calleth Syricus Bishop of Rome his Fellow and the companion of other Bishops who held a sound and Catholique Judgement with all those Syricus agreed in one Society and Fellowship By their Letters sent one to another as Witnesses of their consenting in Doctrine and lawful Ordination Optatus then proveth that he was a Catholique because he kept the Catholique confession and conjunction with Syricius and with others Bishops 2. Secondly the Reformed do answer that Optatus Argument was good against the Donatists who did separate themselves from the Communion of the Catholique Church while they consented not with these Churches where the Doctrine of the Apostles and a lawful Ordination of Bishops did ever flourish 3. But that is nothing to us Reformed and specially to the Reformed of the Church of England It is not a sound Argument to convince the Reformed of Schisme because they have separated themselves from the Church of Rome The Jesuites do maintain the contrary 1. ANd in that regard thinking to touch the Reformed who have separated themselves from the Church of Rome they produce the Authority of Optatus who did reprove the Separation of the Donatists and did argue them to be Schismatical because they had separated from the communion of the Catholique Church Answer to the Jesuites and Refutation of their Argument 1. A Very good Argument indeed and Augustine observed the same course and it was a good Argument That the communion of the Church should be objected to the Schismatical Donatists which seditiously without cause separated themselves from the Church 2. But this Argument employed by Optatus against the Donatists makes nothing against the Reformed who have separated Themselves from the Church of Rome For the said Reformed deny the Church of Rome to be the Catholique Church 3. And therefore the Jesuites cannot by this Argument of Optatus convince us of Schisme although Optatus might thereby confute the Donatists 4. It must first appear that the Church of Rome be the Catholique Church otherwise the Reformed cannot be convicted of Schisme 5. In the time of Optatus the Church of Rome was the Preserver of Religion the Maintainer of the True Faith and she shined like a Star in the sight of all other Churches 6. No marvel then if the most holy Fathers esteemed much and reverenced this Church and urged the Schismaticks with the example of it and also the Hereticks of their time as a great prejudice unto them 7. But since that time the course of that Church is turned and the See of Rome hath declined and degenerated from her sincere Faith to detestable Falshood 8. Let the Papists as we have said before restore us the old Church of Rome and we will never separate our selves from Her 9. But of that old Church of Rome they have nothing left but the Walls and old Rubbish 10. And yet they still brag of the Name of the Catholique Church Of the Differences in Religion between the Calvinists and the Lutherans 1. THe Jars and Dissentions between the Lutherans and Calvinists are neither many nor so material as to shake or touch the Foundation easily reconcileable if men of any moderation had them in handling 2. The bitter speeches of Luther none can excuse and much less the virulent Pamphlets and Proscriptions of some of his Disciples who in a preposterous imitation of his Zeal are little less then furious But the consequence of Opinions must not be measured by the Passions or Outrages of opiniate men Two Brothers in their choler may renounce each other and disclaim their amity yet that heat cannot dissolve their inward and essential Relation 3. The Divisions of the Lutherans and Calvinists namely of the moderate of either side are rather in formes and phrases of Speech then in substance of Doctrine 4. The first and main Controversie between them is that about Consubstantiation which after occasioned that other of Ubiquity 5. In both these Controversies the main Truth on both sides is out of Controversie That Christ is really and truly exhibited to each faithful Communicant and that in his whole person he is every where The doubt is only in the manner how he is in the Symboles and how in Heaven and Earth which being no part of Faith but a curious nicity inscrutable to the Wit of Man we should all here believe where we cannot understand and not fall a quarrelling about that which we cannot conceive How or why are saucy Questions in Divine Mysteries Just Mart. in Expos Fid. 6. I omit the Questions of Predestination being no less debated in the Roman Schools then in the Reformed 7. Their other Differences in Ceremony or Discipline are diversities without Discord 8. All wise men in the World have ever
universal Faith of Christ we are truely Christians and Catholicks believing so and professing so 2. And are content with these Names and desire no other §. Let the Papists be called as they will the Reformed who Reprove and Confute the multitude of their Namss will not be grieved at them 1. LEt the Papists be called Diversly Franciscanes Benedictines Dominicanes And whatsoever other Title they can take up the Reformed are not grieved at the multitude and variety of their Names 2 Who being in Truth almost any thing rather then Christians delight in any Name rather then in the Name of Christians Against the Reconcilement and Reunion of the two Religions the Reformed and the Roman 1. BEing true that the Roman Church is Heretikcal and Impure And on the contrary the Reformed Churches Orthodox and Pure It follows manifestly that there can be none well grounded hope to agree and reunite Popery with the Reformed Churches And therefore that the labour of those who would think upon such a thing were not a seasonable labour 1. Because that in the differences which are amongst us we are so contrary one to the other that the one do clearly maintain the Negative and the others the Affirmative Now it must necessarily be that one of the Propositions be true and the other false Because two contradictories cannot be together true And it is not possible to soulder them by the mastick of some distinctions having no ground in the Word of God 2. The Errors of the Church of Rome have been solemnly ratified and confirmed by the Council of Trent upon pain of Anathema And therefore since that Ratification and confirmation there is no way nor mean left of reconcilement and Agreement For if there were the said Church should be bound to acknowledge her Errors to the end that they may be reformed And to disanul and abrogate concerning them the Canons of the said Council of Trent which is not to be expected from her as long as she shall maintain this poin as she doth vehemently that she cannot Erre And that she layes down and propounds no other Principle of Faith than her belief Against Toleration of false Religions with the pure and Reformed when they differ in Fundamental grounds 1. IT is not onely evil to do but also to suffer evil when it is in our power to hinder it Therefore Religion differing in Fundamental Grounds are not to be Tolerated together 2. This is proved by many Arguments Drawn 1. From the Law forbidding to plow with an Ox and an Asse And punishing Idolaters with Death Deut. 22.10 11. and Deut. 19.6.8 9. 2. From the Gospel denying the service of two Masters Mat. 6.24 And interdicting all fellowship and communion of light with darkness or Christ with Belial 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16. 3. From the Spirits Bill of enditement framed against the Angels of Pergamos and Thyatira for tollerating the Nicolaitans Rev. 2.15 20. 4. From Gods threatning to cut off all such as swear by him and by Malcham Zeph. 1.5 5. From the Imputation which is laid by the Spirit upon many Kings of Israel and Judah for not taking away the High places 1 King 15.14 6. From the Examples of Asa Josiah Ezekiah Constantine Jovian Theodosius and other Religious Princes who by severe Laws restrained Heresie and Idolatry and constrained the true worship of God 7. From the great danger of Heresie which like a Canker soon spreads over the whole body of the Church and if it be not looked into killeth and that eternally thousands of souls breaketh the bands of Nature and cutteth in sunder all sinews of human Society Putteth enmity variance and implacable discords in families Soweth seeds of Sedition in the State and Rebellion against the Prince Refutation of this Slander of the Popish Doctors That the Reformed are Enemies to Scriptures 1. THe Reformed say that this is indeed a very impudent Slander 2. For who ever thought and spoke more Honourablie Reverently and with more due Regard of the Scriptures then they Who have received and imbraced all Scripture given by Inspiration as the very voice of God himself Holding it for the onely Ground and Rule of their Faith and Religion And so resting in it as that they desire no other help as necessary to Salvation Which if they had not with more diligence and devotion defended then the Romanists ever did long ere this the glory of it had perished and it had been counted as a dead Letter 3. For what have the Reformed done for these many years with more endeavour and diligence then to maintain the Majesty and Excellencie of the Scriptures 4. Which the Romanists have so unworthily violated 5. And yet they blush not to match the Reformed with the Manichees and Ebionites who have violently laid villanous hands upon those Sacred Books Of the Apocryphal Books excluded from the Canon by the Reformed Churches Jesuits THe Jesuites and other Papists do demand of the Reformed by what Authority they Maime and Rob the Corps of the Bible Answer of the Reformed to that Demand 1. WE offer no violence to this Body neither do we cut off any which do appertain to the substance and perfection of it we pull away no Member 2. For we do not cut out any true Canonical Scriptures but cull out such as are not Canonical but foisted in and Counterfeit 3. Herein we do the Canonical Scriptures no injury dividing them from such Books as are not of that absolute Authority That they which are in truth Canonical may remain intire and whole together no more then the Shepheard doth injury to the Sheep in sorting the Goats and other Cattel from them The Doctrine of the Reformed Churches and particularly of the Church of England that the Ministers of God hath power to Forgive Sins if the Sinner repent and believe the Gospel maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome 1. WE Reformed say that the Ministers of God hath power to forgive sins not in some Cases only but in all whatsoever if the sinner repent and believe the Gospel 2. This Authority is given unto him by Christ 3. This in the State and Church of England the Parliament and the Communion Book confesse 2. 1. NEvertheless a Popish Writer is far from his purpose to prove thereby the Popish Order of Priesthood 2. For this maketh not the English Reformed Ministers to be Priests as they are called in the Church of Rome but Preachers of Repentance which bring the glad Tidings of the Gospel to all those that be heavie laden and desire to be refreshed 3. 1. NEither have they power themselves to forgive sins but God alone forgiveth sins Mark 1.7 2. But having the word of Reconciliation committed unto them from God they offer pardon and in his Name pronounce pardon to the sinner that believeth and that turneth from his wickednesse and sinnes unto the Lord. Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites
if not drown 4. After the Donatists had made a Faction in Affrica as they brake the unity of the Church so they were broken themselves into divers fractions And so in a short space came to nothing 5. The Division among the Britains of this Nation brought in first the Saxons next the Danes and last of all the Normans 6. This is a cunning sleight of Satan to divide us one from another that so he may prevail against us all 7. The barbarous Soldiers divided not Christs Coat shall we rend and tear asunder his Body by Schism and Faction 8. Religion is the bond of all Society the strongest Sinew of Church or Commonwealth O let us take heed that there be no rupture in this bond nor any sprain in this Sinew 9. The Husband-man hath sowed good Seed clean and picked in this Kingdome for more than threescore years and it had fructified exceedingly since the happy Reformation of Religion in these parts lately the Envious man did sow upon it his Tares O let Christian Charity pluck them up or in the defect of it Publick Authority 10. We are all one Body let us have all the same mind towards God and let us endeavour to the utmost of our power to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of Peace Ephes 4.3 11. That our Spiritual Jerusalem may resemble the old Bizantium the stones whereof were so matched and the wall built so uniformly that the whole City seemed to be but one stone continued throughout 12. It was the Honour of the Old Jerusalem Let it be also of the New that it is a City at unity in it self Psal 122.3 13. The lines the nearer they come to the Center the nearer they are one to another we cannot be one with God so long as we are thus divided one against another Refutation of this Accusatin of the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors that in the Church and Religion of England since the last Reformation have been many Changes and Alterations and particularly in the Common Prayer Book The Popish Doctor 1. HE first calleth to remembrance the Act of 6. Articles established in the later dayes of King Henry the 8. 2. Which in the beginning of his Son Edward the 6. Reign was straightwaies disanulled and the Church Reformed 3. Which Reformation was overthrown in Queen Mary's Reign 4. And after renewed by Queen Elizabeth 5. And continued by her Successors unto this day Answer of the Reformed THis is the Answer that we make to that Accusation 1. That at the first when the Lord began to work some Reformation in the Church of Fugland perfection in every Point was not forthwith attained and established 2. Which is no marvell considering both the greatness of the work and the malice of 〈◊〉 fold enemies that withstood the same 3. Yea if in the Common Prayer Book of that Church alteration hath been according as to that Church seemed most convenient that was not in substance of Doctrine but in matters of Ceremony 4. Neither can the Popish Doctors charge the Church of England more for changing her Common Prayer Book then the said can charge the Roman Church for changing and reforming Her Missales Her Portasses Her Breviaries And a number of such Books even of late years in daily and publick use of Service in Her Defence of the English Translation of the Bible against the Contumelies of Jesuites and other Popish Writers Accusation of the Popish Writers THe divers English Translations of the Bible say the Popish Writers are nothing else but corrupt Gutters flowing from corrupt and stinking Lakes the best containing wicked horrible and Ethnical Errors Answer to that Accusation 1. THis is a slander most wicked horrible Ethnical of all men to be detested and the Accusers shall never prove any word of their Accusation true Gregory Martin hath laboured herein and hath performed nothing 2. If the said Popish Writers find fault with us for Correcting our Bibles let them shew us if they can that either it is unlawful to Translate the Bible into our own Tongue or else after it hath been Translated to reform the Translation in such places wherein some Errors have escaped or to Translate it again 3. No Translation of the Scripture can at the first be so perfect and sincere but it may be afterwards amended as God shall reveal to his Church the faults thereof 4. Otherwise if it were any Fault to amend a Fault why hath the Council of Trent taken order for the Correction of the Church of Romes Latine Translation and for a better Edition thereof to be published then heretofore hath been 5. Yea why hath Pope Pius Reformed The Psalters The Breviaries The Offices And such other Books as are in the Church of Rome in greatest use and estimation 6. If this seemed requisite why may not we look to our Translations likewise amend the Imperfections and set forth better 7. We add that we depend not upon any Translation English or Latine or of other Language no otherwise then the same agreeth with the Word of God EXERCITATION Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites that in the State of England great cruelty is exercised against them and the Seminary Priests in regard of their Religion 1. TO that Accusation the Reformed Doctors do answer That it is true indeed that some few of the Jesuites and other Popish Priests have been punished in the State of England but they died not for Religion but were by open Judgment of Law convicted of Treason 2. In the Raign of Queen Elizabeth of happy Memory was executed one Everard a Priest sent from the Colledge at Rhemes into England who though he was in danger of the Laws many wayes yet might have had his life But that impudently at the Bar he uttered things shameful vile and intollerable for he boasted himself both to be the Subject and Vassal of the Pope even in England and affirmed that the Pope was no lesse the Head of the Church of England then of the Church of Rome Avouching further that he was verily perswaded that the Pope did not erre when he termed Queen Elizabeth an Heretick and the Patron of Hereticks and denounced Her no lawful Queen Everard was for this confession convicted and condemned who afterwards as if this had not been enough in prison professed plainly and directly in the presence and hearing of sixteen men of credit that it was no sin against God to commit Treason against his Prince Yet for all this he suffered no new and unusual punishment but the same that all Traytors suffer in England in the like cause 3. We leave other Examples 4. And say generally of all the Jesuites and Priests that did suffer in England that they did not suffer for their popish Religion but onely for their Treason and for their perturbation of that State §. Great is the Evil and Harm that the Jesuites and Roman Priests hidden in England did cause and do cause to that
State 1. THey trouble the peace of it 2. They corrupt its Children with an impious and strange Religion 3. They make more precious account of a forreign Enemy than of its Dignity 4. They divert the minds of people from true Religion to trouble the peace of the State 5. They estrange the minds of Loyal Subjects from their Lawful Prince 6. And turn all things topsie turvie §. In the State of England as in other States since the last Reformation of the Church extream hath been the cruelty of the Papists towards the Reformed 1. VVHo are the Papists and what is their Religion That the Jesuites and Roman Priests so boldly object cruelty unto the Reformed State of England 2. 1. In Queen Maries time more of them were condemned in that State at one Sessions more executed in one day more consumed in one fire then they can recount to us to have been put to death for the Popes cause at any time or by any kind of death in the whole happy Reign of Queen Elizabeth 2 Let the Jesuites and other Papists then but call to mind the extream cruelty the exquisite Tortures the frequent Martyrdome of the times before the Keign of Queen Elizabeth And if there be in them any mark of Humanity they cannot chuse but confesse that their side hath been extream cruel And that the Englishes Reformed have been sufficiently provoked to severity against them and to have repayed them with the like 3. For what Times can afford such and so many Butcheries of men as was to be seen when the Papists were Lords over the Protestants in England let them tell what Sex or what Age they spared and did not bloodily execute all without difference and distinction Of Learned or Unlearned Of Male or Female Of Old or Young Children Virgins Married Clergie and Layetie Bishops Archbishops escaped not their hands The Martyrs they did beat with Rods their Tongues they pulled out of their Mouths their hands they burned off with Torches They Tormented Crucified Hanged and Beheaded them they burned them alive and toasted them at a soft fire Yea the Infant leaping out of the Mothers belly they received upon the Spears point and cast it into the flaming fire To conclude whatsoever barbarous cruelty could invent that they were not wanting to in execution against them 4. And if their cruelty had ended with the Living and had terminated in their deaths it had been lesse but so raging was their Tyranny that they took up the bodies of Saints interred in the Earth they arreigned them upon a day They accused them at a Bar They condemned them to Death And burned them at a Stake even exdeeding those old Tyrants in Fury and Cruelty 5. Can they name any one such Savage Fact amongst the said Reformed of England 6. Or what was he that was put to Death amongst them Reformed whom every good Man that heard of him judged not worthy of Death threefold more then of Life 7. Therefore let the Papists acknowledge their own cruelty in the State of England and accuse not the English Reformed §. What the Jesuites did alledge for their Justification of coming in England against the Laws of that State THey did alledge That they came thither upon commandment of their Superiours according to the Order of that Religion which they professe Confutation of such an Allegation 1. BUt the English Reformed did demand of the said Jesuites what necessity did lie upon them to obey his Commandement who had no Authority to enjoin them a Journey whether they were willing or unwilling to goe 2. And if that Spanish Soldier Loyola the first Authour of their Jesuitical Society were now alive and should enjoin them to set their Countrey on fire would they obey him we Reformed of England are sure they would never command such a foul fact 3. And yet he might better command and the English Jesuites execute that then this Thing for which they did professe that they were then come in England 4. For whether might it be deemed less to set houses on fire then to cause the Evils and Harms represented before 5. Which yet were the Ends of the Jesuites coming and the Order of their Profession required no less at their hands §. The Soveraign Magistrate in the Reformed State of England hath great Reason to Prohibite the Books of English Jesuites and Seminary Priests 1. THe Books of those man are such as it behooveth the Soveraign Magistrate to stop their passage 2. He must of necessity restrain their Books unless he would suffer the State to be stirred to Sedition the Church in danger of Heresie and Mens minds filled with cursed Opinions 3. For if Magistrates ought carefully to prevent lest the infection of the Plague be from other places brought into their Cities much more care is to be had that pestilent and pernicious Books be not openly spread abroad out of which simple and unlearned men do suck Poyson of deadly Error 4. Neither is the Reformed State of England the first that have taken this Course 5. It may be remembred in Queen Maries Time that they proceeded by Martial Law against all those with whom any of the Reformed Books were found If this was in the Reformed of that Time a matter worthy of Death so that they were by and by drawn to punishment as men guilty of High Treason and that without any Judicial Proceedings what reason have the English Jesuites and Seminary Priests that are in Rome Rhemes and other places abroad to look that their Books should now have such free liberty to be every where publickly sold Of Heretical Churches and Religions Of Heresies and Hereticks 1. HEresie is some opinion in matter of Faith repugnant and contrary to the Word of God being of some chosen out to themselves and wilfully maintained 2. And an Heretick is a person wilfully and stiffly maintaining false Opinions against the Scriptures after due admonition 3. There be three things required to an Heretick first that it be an Error about some Article of Christian Faith Secondly that it be contrary to the evidence and clear truth of holy Scripture soundly and generally held by the holy Catholick Church of God in the earth Thirdly that it be stoutly and obstinately maintained after conviction and lawfull admonition 4. The Doctors of the Roman Church do erre which account such Opinions for Heresies as are not condemned but rather taught in the Word of God which is the onely Rule of saving Truth 5. It is to be noted that Heresies are compared in Scriptures to whores because they are stored with cunning pranks and a thousand entisements to make men ill advised to swerve from the right way See Revel 14.4 6. As on the contrary in the said Scriptures simplicity of Faith is called Virginity See 2 Cor. 11. v. 2. 7. The Difference which is between Heresie and Schisme is as the Difference which is between Faith and Charity Heresie is the Poyson of Faith and infecteth
the Doctrine thereof Schisme is the wound of Charity and by which the Church is divided which Division is not for points of Faith but for the Ceremonies and Discipline of the Church received and established in her since a long time and well grounded upon the Word of God and that by a Spirit of contention and trouble to purchase the glory of some particular and extraordinary wisdome and sufficiencie 8. Hereticks are called Antichrists 1 John 2. v. 18. because they are fore-runners of the great Antichrist the man of sin and the Son of Perdition Heresie is a most dangerous thing and spreads soon over the whole body of the Church and produceth woful Effects 1. HEresie like a Canker soon spreads over the whole body of the Church 2. And if it be not looked into killeth and that eternally thousands of Souls breaketh the bonds of nature and cutteth asunder all sinews of humane society putteth enmity variance and implacable discords in Families soweth Seeds of Sedition in the State reacheth Daggers and Daggers to Subjects to assacinate the Sacred Persons of the Lords Anointed layeth Traines in the deep Vaults of disloyal hearts to blow up Parliaments and to offer whole Kingdomes for an Holocaust Of the Impudency of Error and Hereticks in these Times IN this wretched Time Error and Hereticks which were wont but to whisper men in the Eare and to mumble between the Teeth have been so bold as to step into the Pulpit and to belch out blasphemies against God and the true Christian Religion Concerning the Books of Hereticks whether they are to be tolerated or absolutely abolished by the Prince 1. Concerning the Books of Hereticks this is our Judgement that of them 1. Some are Magicall 2. Some are Defamatorie Books 3. Some are Blasphemous Books 4. And some are Books full of divers Errors 2. The Magicall Books are to be burned Acts 19.19 3. The Defamatory Books are to be forbidden The Emperours Constitutions do ordain a Capital Punishment for the Authors of them 4. The Notoriously Blasphemous Books of Hereticks are also to be abolished 5. Concerning the Books of Hereticks which containe divers Errors the reading of them is not to be permitted to every one and chiefly not to those who did not yet sufficiently know the grounds of true Faith and Religion 6. But for that they are not absolutely to be abolished but the reading of them is to be permitted to the Learned 7. Which we prove by the following Arguments The first is taken from the Apostles Injunctions Prove all things saith S. Paul 1 Thes 5.21 And S. John 1. Epist 4. v. 1. Brethren helieve not every Spirit but try the Spirits whether they be of God The 2. Argument is taken from the Commodities and Utilities which proceeds from the reading of such Books In the Books of Hereticks such things are written by which the Heresies themselves are confuted Besides it is profitable to know what is happened in every Age. The 3. Argument is this Which of the Fathers hath been free from all kind of Errors And in the Books of the Gentiles and of the Jews many things are contained contrary to the true Christian Faith and yet we do not abolish them Hereticks and Deceivers and Impostors grace themselves with high and strange Titles and glorious Names to blear the eyes of the simple 1. THeudas said he was some great one Simon Magus stiled himself the great Power of God Montanus arrogated to himself the Title of Paracletus the Comforter and to his three Minions Priscilla Maximilla and Quintilla the names of Prophetesses Manes bare himself as if he were an Apostle immediately sent from Christ 2. Therefore it is a silly shift of a bankrupt Disputant in the Schools to argue à vocibus ad res from the bare name of things to their nature and yet Bellarmine fights against us with this Festraw De Not. Eccles We are Sir-named Catholicks therefore we are so The Devil often maketh of women strong Instruments to dispread the Poyson of Heresie 1. SImon Magus had his Helena Marcion his female Fore-runner Apelles his Philumena Montanus his Maximilla Donatus his Lucilla Elpidus his Agape Priscillian his Galla Arius the Prince his Sister Nicholaus Antiochenus his Feminine Troops and Quires and all Arch-hereticks some Strumpets or other to serve them for Midwives when they were in Travel with Monstrous and mis-shapen Heresies Thou sufferest the woman Jazabel We must avoid the familiar company of Gods Enemies and of true Religion for fear of Infection 1. FOr such enemies are like Jacobs Poplar rods they are like the two Rivers in Mercator Axius and Aliacmon like the two Fountains in Spain whereof Maginus 1. Omnia Injecta respuit refuses all that is cast into it 2. Omnia injecta sibi assimilat makes all things cast into it like to it self 2. The danger is noted by Solomon Prov. 6.27 And by the sharp speech of Jehu the Prophet to Jehosaphat 2 Chron. 18.3 2 Chron. 19.2 3. Therefore is the Exhortation of the Apostle Wherefore come out from amongst them and touch no unclean thing 2 Cor. 6.17 4. If Saint John the Evangelist would not stay in the Bath with Cerinthus the Heretick shall we dare freely to communicate with worser Hereticks Of the Chief Errors of the Socinians 1. Their Errors concerning the Vnity of the Divine Essence and the Trinity of Persons THey deny the Trinity of Persons They deny the Divinity of the Son They say that the Birth of the Son is altogether impossible They deny the Divinity of the Holy Ghost They denie that the Holy Ghost is a Person They maintain that the Holy Ghost is onely the Power of God They teach that the Holy Ghost dwelling in the hearts of the Faithful is nothing else but a firm and certain hope of Eternal Life They deny that a particular operation of the Holy Ghost be required for the production of Faith They deny also that in God there be a certain natural Justice and Mercy 2. Their Errors concerning Christ the Mediatour THey deny that there be two Natures in Christ the Divine and the Humane They deny that Christ is risen from the Dead by his own power and vertue They deny that Christ by his Death did satisfie for our sins or that he be dead to merit Salvation unto us They deny that Christ hath reconciled us unto God They deny that Christ be come to fulfil the Law for us on the contrary they say that Christ hath added new Commandments to the Law They deny that Christ upon the Altar of the Cross did offer himself to God for us They deny also that Christ was a Priest before his Ascention in Heaven They deny that by the Sacrifice of Christ any other thing is to be understood than a deliverance from our Necessities They deny that Christ doth properly interceed for us And they say that by the Intercession of Christ nothing else is to be understood but that