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A15733 An ansvvere to a popish pamphlet, of late newly forbished, and the second time printed, entituled: Certaine articles, or forcible reasons discouering the palpable absurdities, and most notorious errors of the Protestants religion. By Anthony Wotton Wotton, Anthony, 1561?-1626.; Wright, Thomas, d. 1624. Certaine articles or forcible reasons. 1605 (1605) STC 26002; ESTC S120304 112,048 194

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word_n and_o a_o opinion_n not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v in_o any_o christian_n or_o civil_a state_n there_o be_v no_o dissent_n betwixt_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o puritan_n about_o the_o king_n supremacy_n but_o the_o difference_n that_o be_v arise_v from_o the_o diverse_a conceit_n each_o part_n have_v of_o the_o thing_n by_o his_o majesty_n enjoin_v as_o it_o shall_v appear_v in_o due_a place_n caluin_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o charge_n henry_n the_o eight_o with_o assume_v the_o sovereignty_n he_o speak_v of_o but_o only_o lay_v the_o fault_n upon_o certain_a man_n who_o in_o a_o unconsiderate_a zeal_n as_o he_o say_v ascribe_v such_o a_o power_n to_o he_o as_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o warrantable_a wherein_o these_o two_o point_n make_v he_o mislike_v the_o matter_n first_o that_o he_o be_v call_v