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contra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v 〈◊〉_d by_o his_o word_n &_o not_o to_o those_o which_o be_v godly_a book_n be_v premit_v to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o people_n though_o because_o not_o divine_o inspire_v they_o be_v not_o to_o confirm_v any_o point_n of_o doctrine_n whereby_o the_o same_o father_n interprete_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o council_n of_o carthage_n urge_v by_o the_o jesuit_n in_o case_n he_o have_v subscribe_v thereunto_o as_o our_o adversary_n persuade_v and_o that_o this_o agree_v with_o s._n augustine_n mind_n it_o shine_v forth_o in_o many_o place_n for_o although_o s._n augustin_n say_v that_o the_o church_n have_v they_o the_o maccabee_n for_o canonical_a yet_o he_o tell_v you_o how_o not_o because_o they_o be_v divine_o reveal_v but_o for_o the_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o must_v needs_o interpret_v that_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d they_o for_o canonical_a that_o be_v of_o that_o canon_n which_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v read_v only_o for_o the_o move_n of_o the_o people_n affection_n by_o declare_v the_o passion_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d for_o he_o make_v they_o not_o of_o that_o 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d inspire_v 〈◊〉_d â—_o aug._n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d dei_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d oppose_v they_o to_o it_o â—_o non_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o quibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o machobâ—â—rum_fw-la audiatur_fw-la â—_o aug._n con_fw-mi epist_n gâ—udâ—â—_n l._n â—â—_o 31._o â—â—â—â—pe_fw-la quidem_fw-la scripturam_fw-la quae_fw-la appellatut_o mac_n 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la habent_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o psalm_n quibus_fw-la dom._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d testibus_fw-la tuis_fw-la sed_fw-la recepta_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la sobriè_fw-la legatur_fw-la vel_fw-la audiatur_fw-la libri_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la judas_n sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d canonicis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d propter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d passiones_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—rabiles_fw-la this_o be_v find_v say_v that_o father_n not_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o be_v call_v canonical_a but_o in_o other_o among_o which_o be_v also_o the_o book_n of_o the_o macchabeas_a which_o not_o the_o iâ—wes_n but_o the_o church_n have_v for_o canonical_a for_o the_o vehement_a and_o wonderful_a suffering_n of_o 〈◊〉_d martyr_n and_o so_o in_o a_o other_o place_n â—â—â—aith_o that_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o receive_v of_o the_o jew_n as_o the_o law_n the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n to_o which_o god_n give_v testimony_n â—â—_o to_o his_o own_o witness_n yet_o he_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o church_n receive_v they_o not_o unprofitable_o but_o wherein_o lie_v their_o profit_n s._n augustine_n declare_v sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o sober_a read_n and_o hear_v of_o they_o read_v for_o isiodorus_n &_o cassâ—dorus_n their_o testimony_n make_v noâ—_n the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n neither_o can_v those_o term_n of_o holy_a and_o divine_a wherewith_o 〈…〉_o â—_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n l._n 〈◊〉_d 4_o po_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vino_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illo_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ab_fw-la 〈◊〉_d epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la â—â—per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 15._o â—â—â—_o
〈◊〉_d romana_fw-la athanasius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hist_o cap._n 〈…〉_o s._n 〈◊〉_d basil_n &_o augustine_n style_v thâ—se_a writing_n â—â—ving_v his_o counterfeit_a calixius_n at_o rome_n make_v these_o book_n canonical_a it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v so_o term_v in_o respect_n of_o other_o corrupt_a writing_n which_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n which_o practice_n be_v except_v against_o by_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n wherein_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n and_o i_o think_v you_o will_v not_o conceive_v this_o inhibition_n have_v any_o relation_n to_o any_o of_o those_o book_n we_o call_v apocryphal_a they_o be_v never_o condemn_v to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o church_n beside_o bellarmine_n tell_v we_o the_o title_n of_o divine_a â—â—_o give_v by_o most_o 〈◊〉_d and_o most_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o prayer_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3_o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o book_n of_o pastorâ—_n â—_z etc._n etc._n and_o the_o call_n of_o 〈◊〉_d prophetical_a scripture_n by_o s._n ambrose_n be_v to_o like_a effect_n it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o four_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ras_n which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v canonical_a scripture_n though_o it_o be_v lift_v up_o with_o as_o great_a a_o testimony_n from_o that_o father_n revelatione_fw-la father_n sixtus_n seneâ—_n bibl._n sancta_fw-la lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr esdâ—â—_n lib._n 3._o &_o 4._o divus_o ambrose_n etiam_fw-la quartum_fw-la librum_fw-la putat_fw-la editum_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la esdra_n non_fw-la sine_fw-la divinâ_fw-la revelatione_fw-la as_o the_o book_n of_o toby_n which_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o justify_v but_o leave_v toby_n with_o his_o dog_n the_o jesuite_n have_v some_o further_a proof_n for_o the_o macehabee_n they_o be_v allege_v say_v he_o as_o other_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v without_o any_o difference_n and_o who_o be_v the_o alleger_n cyprian_a 〈◊〉_d â—en_n and_o ambrose_n â—â—_o ambrose_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o two_o thing_n be_v here_o to_o be_v examine_v first_o whether_o every_o book_n cite_v by_o a_o father_n be_v canonical_a second_o how_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o be_v urge_v and_o cite_v by_o the_o father_n first_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n that_o the_o cite_n of_o a_o book_n by_o a_o father_n shall_v turn_v his_o nature_n when_o a_o apostle_n pen_n have_v not_o that_o virtue_n in_o itself_o unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v all_o those_o poet_n cite_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ch_n by_o jude_n to_o be_v reckon_v within_o the_o canon_n beside_o if_o this_o argument_n have_v any_o life_n in_o it_o against_o we_o why_o 〈◊〉_d it_o not_o have_v the_o same_o strength_n against_o papist_n to_o prove_v the_o book_n call_v pastor_n to_o be_v canonical_a which_o as_o bellarmine_n observe_v 〈◊〉_d 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one_o with_o a_o other_o in_o give_v testimony_n to_o the_o propose_a article_n the_o jesuiâ—e_n that_o pretend_v the_o ancient_a church_n have_v not_o give_v we_o â—â—â—_o complete_a proof_n from_o the_o same_o and_o those_o which_o he_o â—â—th_v produce_v be_v but_o particular_a man_n with_o one_o provincial_a council_n which_o they_o themselves_o general_o approve_v â—oâ—_n and_o some_o of_o his_o private_a testimony_n say_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n so_o all_o that_o our_o jesuite_n can_v expect_v be_v this_o that_o in_o some_o private_a judgement_n these_o book_n may_v be_v judge_v canonical_a but_o never_o so_o deliver_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o defence_n the_o book_n pastâ—r_n have_v from_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n and_o the_o four_o of_o esdras_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o sixtuâ—_n senensis_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o there_o be_v reason_n sufficient_a that_o our_o jesuite_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d whichupon_o so_o vain_a a_o confidence_n heâ—_n have_v erect_v and_o acknowledge_v their_o change_n although_o they_o have_v doâ—â—_n it_o upon_o so_o good_a a_o ground_n as_o the_o embrace_n of_o some_o private_a judgement_n three_o or_o four_o hâ—â—dreth_v yâ—â—es_n after_o christ_n leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o â—he_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o same_o thus_o the_o charge_n appâ—â—â—â—th_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o jesuit_n hope_v to_o have_v prove_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v leâ—â—_n the_o gâ—â—â—rall_a practice_n of_o the_o â—â—â—cient_a church_n and_o have_v imbracâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d private_a 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o love_v of_o their_o person_n but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o they_o find_v some_o shelter_n 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—ing_v he_o can_v declare_v they_o scripture_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o be_v sure_a if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o 〈◊〉_d book_n hold_v now_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contrary_a sentence_n by_o the_o â—â—cient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o his_o skill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n euâ—â—_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o before_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n 2d_o authority_n reply_v pag_n 2d_o the_o jesuit_n must_v tell_v we_o what_o he_o meâ—â—â—th_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o if_o he_o understand_v a_o general_a council_n it_o be_v idle_a for_o they_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o â—â—_o yâ—_z canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n â—_o c._n â—â—_o cyprianus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o expositione_n symboli_fw-la â—osdem_fw-la sex_n libros_fw-la patrum_fw-la anctoritate_fw-la a_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o &_o 4._o book_n of_o esdras_n pastor_n their_o decretal_a epistle_n gregory_n siâ—tus_n yea_o what_o not_o &_o plead_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n they_o never_o be_v in_o your_o judgement_n i_o think_v condemn_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o any_o general_a council_n in_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n that_o do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentence_n conâ—â—ry_o thereunto_o but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o give_v â—â—â—_o judgement_n against_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n toby_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o canoâ—_n as_o no_o doubt_n â—â—_o may_v practise_v be_v the_o best_a declareâ—_n of_o man_n judgement_n it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v sufficient_o that_o they_o have_v long_a 〈◊〉_d receive_v their_o doom_n for_o first_o they_o be_v always_o difâ—â—â—â—med_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o canon_n &_o rule_n of_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o produce_v one_o private_a 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
must_v be_v the_o measure_n and_o square_v of_o our_o faith_n further_o you_o shall_v see_v he_o be_v take_v in_o the_o train_n whereby_o he_o think_v to_o entrap_v for_o in_o answer_v s._n augustine_n allege_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n only_o in_o such_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n as_o this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—iâ—king_v from_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n â—â—_o hand_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o indeed_o if_o the_o question_n in_o â—â—â—d_v be_v whether_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n hold_v these_o point_n or_o not_o then_o who_o will_v deny_v but_o it_o be_v a_o shrink_n from_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n to_o fly_v to_o the_o scripture_n but_o if_o the_o controâ—ersie_n here_o be_v concern_v the_o rule_n whether_o the_o jesuit_n have_v right_o frame_v a_o invention_n to_o find_v out_o true_a religion_n by_o then_o the_o produce_v of_o the_o true_a rule_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n that_o a_o 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that_o sword_n which_o they_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v their_o 〈◊〉_d to_o wit_n the_o anncient_a father_n 〈◊〉_d may_v 〈…〉_o those_o rail_a heresy_n that_o revile_v the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o â—â—â—â—ving_a god_n for_o although_o your_o rule_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d of_o it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whereupon_o to_o ground_v our_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o it_o will_v be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o show_v that_o you_o be_v but_o 〈…〉_o tradition_n real_a 〈◊〉_d prayer_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—cam_fw-la â—_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—rosoâ—_n 〈◊〉_d heâ—_n 4._o ne_fw-fr mihi_fw-la ca_fw-mi â—â—bi_fw-la proferenâ—â—_n simpliciter_fw-la sidem_fw-la adhibeâ—â—_n nisi_fw-la de_fw-fr diviâ—â—â—_n scripture_n eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la â—â—cam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yoâ—â—_n roman_n â—â—nce_n to_o be_v allow_v by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d father_n and_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n will_v never_o oppose_v the_o general_a 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o anncient_a father_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o have_v general_o receive_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o the_o jesuite_n may_v consider_v that_o this_o be_v not_o to_o depend_v upon_o any_o authority_n without_o scripture_n the_o jesuite_n further_o revile_v we_o for_o leave_v the_o father_n and_o cleave_v to_o god_n although_o we_o most_o firm_o adhere_v to_o they_o where_o they_o join_v in_o a_o general_a consent_n with_o the_o saâ—red_a scripture_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o the_o father_n â—_o profess_v to_o do_v tell_v we_o that_o in_o appeal_n to_o scripture_n the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n disagree_v with_o those_o of_o his_o own_o profession_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o manifest_v this_o he_o bringe_v in_o as_o he_o 〈◊〉_d he_o dr_n hooker_n saying_n of_o all_o thing_n necessary_a the_o uâ—ry_a 〈◊〉_d iâ—_n â—â—_o know_v what_o 〈◊〉_d we_o 〈…〉_o holy_a which_o 〈…〉_o the_o scripture_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o any_o 〈◊〉_d of_o scripture_n do_v give_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o still_o that_o scripture_n which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o the_o rest_n can_v require_v another_o scripture_n to_o give_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o it_o neither_o will_v we_o â—ver_v 〈◊〉_d to_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o assurance_n this_o may_v 〈◊〉_d that_o unless_o 〈…〉_o something_o which_o 〈…〉_o we_o can_v not_o 〈◊〉_d we_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o scripture_n iâ—_n a_o 〈◊〉_d and_o holy_a rule_n of_o 〈◊〉_d this_o place_n of_o the_o learned_a hooker_n presuppose_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o historical_a and_o what_o 〈◊〉_d this_o against_o the_o 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n or_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d umpire_n and_o sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d to_o square_v our_o â—aith_n and_o action_n by_o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o heaven_n cover_v all_o thing_n and_o yet_o cover_v not_o themselves_o and_o what_o may_v hinder_v the_o scripture_n in_o like_a 〈◊〉_d to_o teach_v all_o 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o point_v out_o themselves_o s._n augustine_n word_n be_v in_o every_o papist_n mouth_n viz._n that_o he_o will_v not_o beleâ—ve_v the_o scripture_n unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v move_v he_o thereunto_o and_o yet_o he_o 〈◊〉_d all_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d â—aith_n and_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v 〈…〉_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—cam_fw-la but_o this_o necessary_a point_n of_o â—aith_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d oâ—_n 〈…〉_o in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o the_o jesuite_n abuse_v his_o 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o church_n testimony_n hare_o and_o alone_o begot_v but_o opinion_n in_o hooker_n judgement_n for_o say_v â—o_o the_o more_o we_o bâ—stow_v 〈…〉_o read_n and_o learn_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o more_o we_o 〈…〉_o thing_n it_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—th_v answer_v 〈◊〉_d receive_v 〈…〉_o that_o the_o 〈…〉_o with_o â—â—_o before_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—w_o much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d when_o the_o very_a thing_n 〈◊〉_d minister_v further_a 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o hooker_n word_v make_v â—â—thing_v against_o the_o 〈…〉_o for_o 〈…〉_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o way_n by_o 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o convince_v to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o â—_o â—_o lib._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d â—_o god_n 〈…〉_o and_o thus_o god_n 〈…〉_o give_v witness_n to_o his_o word_n do_v not_o take_v 〈…〉_o sâ—â—â—â—ciency_n to_o declare_v who_o word_n they_o be_v and_o from_o what_o 〈◊〉_d they_o 〈◊〉_d any_o more_o than_o it_o do_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o their_o rule_n which_o consist_v of_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n also_o whereby_o the_o 〈◊〉_d may_v see_v he_o have_v produce_v this_o worthy_a author_n to_o no_o advantage_n â—â—_o be_v plain_a that_o although_o there_o be_v something_o else_o to_o prepare_v the_o way_n objecâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sid_n form_n dispâ—_n 3._o sect_n 12._o n._n â—â—â—_o admitti_fw-la potest_fw-la ex_fw-la humâ—na_fw-la authoritate_fw-la geâ—â—rari_fw-la quandam_fw-la fidem_fw-la humanam_fw-la praeviaâ—â—_n ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la â—â—â—quam_fw-la 〈…〉_o well_fw-mi rationem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ejus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tanquam_fw-la â—â—â—ditionem_fw-la &_o applicative_o objecâ—â—â—_n yet_o the_o mind_n be_v altogether_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o â—â—ght_n oâ—_n the_o 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suscepit_fw-la reljquam_fw-la vero_fw-la omnem_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la de_fw-la mendacio_fw-la praejudicandam_fw-la quae_fw-la sapiaâ—_n contra_fw-la veritatem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la &_o dei._n for_o a_o point_n be_v 〈◊〉_d in_o religion_n that_o do_v not_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o his_o bless_a spirit_n either_o in_o terminis_fw-la or_o by_o deduction_n from_o his_o word_n that_o be_v the_o ancient_n of_o day_n whatsoever_o pretence_n of_o duration_n and_o continuance_n may_v be_v suppose_v 〈◊〉_d be_v never_o general_o receive_v by_o the_o roman_a faction_n themselves_o before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n â—â—_o acorus_a in_o 4._o d._n 11._o q._n 3._o apud_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr euchil_n 3._o c._n 23._o ditis_fw-la ante_fw-la lateranense_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la â—_o rhem._n an_n not_o upon_o the_o 1._o of_o tim._n 6._o â—â—_o and_o yet_o we_o be_v condemn_v for_o call_v this_o a_o novelty_n whereas_o it_o creep_v in_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o those_o word_n which_o they_o themselves_o account_v novelty_n both_o in_o the_o arrian_n which_o have_v their_o similis_n substantiâ—_n and_o christ_n to_o be_v ex_fw-la non_fw-la existentibus_fw-la and_o also_o other_o heretic_n that_o have_v their_o christiparam_n and_o such_o likeâ—_n â—_z new_a coin_a term_n agreeable_a to_o their_o sect_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o free_v your_o doctrine_n from_o be_v novelty_n because_o they_o be_v of_o long_a continuance_n see_v the_o word_n of_o ancient_a heretic_n be_v of_o more_o long_a continuance_n and_o auncient_a in_o birth_n even_o many_o hundred_o year_n before_o they_o may_v better_o claim_v that_o privilege_n and_o be_v nevertheless_o style_v novelty_n by_o yourselves_o and_o as_o the_o rhemist_n acknowledge_v of_o word_n so_o we_o say_v concern_v point_n of_o doctrine_n that_o we_o be_v to_o esteem_v their_o newness_n or_o oldnes_n by_o 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the_o same_o doctrine_n in_o other_o book_n also_o viz_o r_o de_fw-fr nativitate_fw-la christi_fw-la which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o library_n of_o the_o cathedral_n church_n of_o sarisbury_n and_o benâ—et_n college_n at_o cambridge_n and_o therefore_o all_o his_o shift_n be_v vanity_n while_o he_o endeavour_v to_o persuade_v that_o bertram_n maintain_v their_o catholic_a doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n against_o heribaldus_n and_o the_o stâ—rcoranists_n when_o as_o he_o oppose_v as_o have_v be_v former_o manifest_v the_o doctrine_n which_o paschasius_fw-la teach_v and_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v now_o adhere_v unto_o and_o it_o be_v a_o trifle_a inconsequent_a of_o the_o jesuite_n to_o insinuate_v that_o because_o bertram_n do_v not_o write_v against_o paschasius_fw-la which_o be_v false_a therefore_o he_o do_v not_o oppose_v the_o corrupt_a doctrine_n that_o he_o in_o effect_n first_o publish_v to_o the_o church_n 45._o church_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr script_n ecclesâ—_n in_o paschasâ—_n ratâ—erto_fw-la hic_fw-la auctor_fw-la priâ—â—â—â—uit_fw-la qui_fw-fr â—enâ—_n &_o coâ—iosâ—_n scripâ—it_fw-fr de_fw-fr veriâ—â—â—â—_n corpâ—â—â—_n &_o 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—â—_n etc._n etc._n reply_v pag_n 45._o but_o the_o strength_n of_o the_o jesuite_n conjecture_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o bertram_n live_v under_o the_o government_n of_o paschasius_fw-la in_o his_o monasteriâ—_n of_o corbey_n in_o picardy_n q._n which_o indeed_o the_o jesuite_n may_v say_v but_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v how_o confident_o soever_o he_o publish_v the_o same_o for_o paschasiâ—s_v die_v in_o the_o year_n 851._o when_o as_o charles_n to_o who_o bertram_n write_v be_v not_o make_v emperor_n before_o the_o year_n 875._o so_o that_o bertram_n may_v well_o have_v be_v a_o monk_n at_o corbey_n and_o yet_o not_o have_v live_v under_o the_o government_n of_o paschasius_fw-la by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v beslaber_v oeeolampadius_n with_o a_o untruth_n 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beside_o we_o may_v further_o observe_v that_o the_o root_n and_o mother_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v not_o cornelius_n and_o his_o diocese_n in_o regard_n the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v the_o pope_n and_o his_o diocese_n to_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n 49._o church_n reply_v pag._n 49._o which_o s._n cyprian_n epist_n 43._o make_v to_o be_v the_o mother_n ad_fw-la matrem_fw-la svam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la his_o three_o witness_n from_o antiquity_n be_v tertullian_n who_o even_o when_o he_o be_v fall_v otherwise_o â—nto_fw-la heresi_fw-la yet_o do_v he_o though_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n acknowledge_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v episcopus_fw-la episcoperum_fw-la the_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n 51._o bishop_n reply_v pag._n 51._o as_o if_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v the_o roman_a church_n the_o head_n of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o the_o pope_n the_o father_n of_o all_o bishop_n well_o if_o it_o be_v not_o rome_n 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dominationis_fw-la quandam_fw-la speciem_fw-la abusi_fw-la fuissent_fw-la eamque_fw-la extra_fw-la fine_n à _fw-la christo_fw-la &_o ecelesia_fw-la peaescriptos_fw-la ambitionis_fw-la et_fw-la cupiditatis_fw-la causâ_fw-la â—utulissent_fw-la but_o return_v again_o to_o the_o answer_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o our_o answerer_n allege_v for_o himself_o the_o example_n of_o s._n cyprian_n who_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o african_a bishop_n dissent_v from_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n of_o rome_n without_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o catholic_a communion_n to_o which_o the_o jesuite_n reply_n that_o this_o be_v easy_o answer_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o point_n wherein_o s._n cyprian_n do_v vary_v from_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n until_o after_o s._n cyprian_n death_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v have_v be_v maintain_v without_o any_o breach_n of_o catholic_n unity_n 80_o unity_n reply_v pag._n 80_o what_o he_o speak_v concern_v the_o church_n declaration_n will_v have_v a_o more_o fit_a place_n hereafter_o but_o to_o show_v how_o little_a the_o jesuite_n have_v speak_v for_o his_o cause_n we_o may_v first_o consider_v that_o cyprian_n opinion_n be_v condemn_v by_o your_o pope_n &_o his_o council_n &_o the_o contrary_n define_v rebaptizarentur_fw-la define_v bellar._n l._n 2._o the_o council_n c._n 5._o constat_fw-la cornelium_n papam_fw-la cum_fw-la nationali_fw-la concilio_n omnium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la italiae_fw-la statuisse_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la haereticos_fw-la rebaptiâ—â—ri_fw-la et_fw-la eundem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la postea_fw-la approbasse_n stephanum_n papam_fw-la et_fw-la jussisse_fw-la ut_fw-la haeretici_fw-la non_fw-la rebaptizarentur_fw-la yea_o s._n cyprian_n himself_o excommunicate_v and_o so_o severe_o deal_v withal_o by_o pope_n stephen_n that_o he_o will_v not_o admit_v the_o african_a legate_n to_o speak_v with_o he_o but_o style_v cyprian_n a_o counterfeit_n say_v that_o christ_n do_v deny_v any_o communion_n to_o be_v hold_v with_o he_o rebaptizant_n he_o cassander_n consult_v be_v 7._o cùm_fw-la stephanus_n episcopus_fw-la romae_fw-la utbis_fw-la cyprianum_n quoth_v in_o ipso_fw-la erat_fw-la repelleret_fw-la &_o episcoposaâ—_n ipsum_fw-la ex_fw-la africâ_fw-la legatos_fw-la nec_fw-la ad_fw-la sermonem_fw-la communis_fw-la colloquij_fw-la admitteret_fw-la &_o praecip_n eret_fw-la universae_fw-la fraternitati_fw-la ut_fw-la venientibus_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la pax_fw-la &_o communio_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o tectum_fw-la &_o hospitium_fw-la negaretur_fw-la insuper_fw-la &_o cyprianum_n pseudo_fw-la christum_fw-la &_o dolo_fw-la sum_fw-la operarium_fw-la diceret_fw-la haec_fw-la scribit_fw-la firmilianus_n episcopus_fw-la è_fw-la cappadociâ_fw-la ad_fw-la cyprianum_n cujus_fw-la firmiliani_fw-la meminit_fw-la eusebius_n histor_n 6_o l._n c._n 25._o &_o l_o 7._o c._n 13._o ad_fw-la quem_fw-la stephanus_n scripsit_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la communicandum_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la 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