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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03418	A letter to Mr. T.H. late minister: now fugitiue: from Sir Edvvard Hoby Knight. In answere of his first Motiue	Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617.	1609 (1609)	STC 13541; ESTC S104131	47,450	130

of the Church This you take to bee a subtill Collusion For whereas our D. pretendeth that S. Augustine had only Custome to maintaine it yet you find that he alledgeth Scripture in defence thereof For we reade saith he in the booke of the Machabes that Sacrifice was offred for the dead If this be the Scripture you build vpon our D. may say againe Nullo Scripturae dicto continetur it is not contained in any precept of Scripture As hauing formerly proued out of m Rat. pr. pag. 28. Aquinas Antoninus and Jerome that those bookes of Machabees are not Canonicall Neither is it our D. surmise that August seemeth to signifie as much who elsewhere doth plainly and determinablie conclude that they are not Diuini Canonis n Aug. de mirab lib. 2. c. 34. Jn Machabaeorum libris etsi aliquid mirabilium numero inserendum conuenientiÃ¹s ordini fuisse inueniatur de hoc tamen nulla cura fatigabimur quia tantÃ¹m agere proposuimus vt de diuini Canonis mirabilibus exiguam historicam expositionem tangeremus Where he confesseth that albeit he might wel haue produced somewhat for his purpose out of the Machabees yet because he meant to deale only with such mirables as were of the Diuine Canon hee would not trouble himselfe with those as thinking them vnfit to stand cheeke by ioule with the other The same Father writing against Gaudent Epist. saith thus o Contra Gaud. Epist. lib. 2. cap. 23. Machabaeorum Scriptura recepta est ab ecclesia non inutiliter si sobriÃ¨ legatur vel audiatur maximÃ¨ propter istos Martyres sed ob hanc causam in Canone morum non Fidei censeri posset Shewing that there must great sobrietie be vsed in the hearing and reading of those bookes and that they are in the Canon of Manners and not of faith And againe Jn sanctis Canonicis libris nusquam nobis diuinitus praeceptum permissumue reperiri potest vt velipsius adipiscendae immortalitatis vel vllius carendi cauendiue mali causa vt p 2. Machab. 14.42 Razis seipsum occidens laudatur In the holie Canonicall books there is no diuine precept or permission to be found that we may either to gaine immortalitie or to escape any perill make away with our selues as Razis did and is therefore commended in the Machabees Where is now the Collusion Doth not S. Augustine seeme to signifie as much Lyra is as liable to the censure of Collusion who auerreth q Praefat. in Tob. as he is cited by our Lubbertus lib. 1. cap. 13. de Princip dogm that they are receiued of the Church to be read for the information of manners Brito is also of the same mind r Jn prolog Machab. cited by Lubbert ibid. Libri Machabaeorum non sunt in Canone tamen leguntur in Ecclesia per constitutionem Romanae ecclesiae The bookes of Machabees are not in the Canon and yet they are read by the constitution of the Romane Church I might cite Å¿ Ad reg Ludouicum Lubbert ibid. Rabanus diuers others but t Jn fine Comment ad hist. vet Test as he is cited by our Lubbertus quo supra lib. 1. cap. 4. Caietan shall serue for all Ne turberis Nouitie si alicubi reperias libros istos inter Canonicos supputari vel in sacris Concilijs vel in sacris Doctoribus Non autem sunt Canonici id est Regulares ad firmandum ea quae sunt Fidei Possunt tamen Canonici id est Regulares dici ad aedificationem fidelium vtpote in Canone Bibliae ad hoc recepti Cum hac distinctione poteris discernere dicta Augustini scripta in Concilio prouinciali Carthaginensi Trouble not thy selfe if thou find those books either in the sacred Councels or holy Fathers to be reckoned among those that are Canonicall for they are not Canonicall that is Regular to ground those things that appertaine to faith albeit they may be tearmed Regular and Canonicall for the edification of the faithfull for which end they are receiued into the Canon of the Bible With this Distinction that which is spoken by Saint Augustine and written by the Prouinciall Councell of Carthage must bee vnderstood The Councell of Carthage u Pag. 170. whereupon you so much relie no doubt will now stand you in great stead Caietan taketh away your obiection with this distinction Besides by your leaue it may seeme these books were not so acknowledged by that Councell For how then could a 19. Mor. 13. S. Gregorie long after haue doubted of these bookes calling them Libros non Canonicos Books that were not Canonicall Your owne b Locis Theol. lib. 2. cap. 11. Â§. Ad quartum Canus confesseth that if they had been so ratified it had been neither for Gregorie nor any other to haue afterward made any doubt of them Why should you then stile it an c Pag. 169. Artificiall Collusion if our D. say that S. Augustine seemeth to signifie that there is no place of Scripture for prayer for the dead when besides the Custome of the Church hee alledgeth only that one out of the Machabees which bookes are not properly Canonicall You take all things I see with the left hand you would faine find a mote in D. H. his eie and yet you will not see the beame in your owne illatiue d Higgons pag. 170. S. Augustine you say makes mention of the old Scripture Ergo he intimateth that in the new Testament some reliefe for the dead is either plainly expressed or sufficiently deduced from thence In sadnes I should be glad to see a Logique of your making you haue such passing skill to conclude Quid libet ex Quolibet S. Augustines words are these e De cura pro mort cap. 1. If this were read no where in the old Scripture yet there is no small authoritie of the vniuersall Church c. He maketh a negatiue supposition of the old testament from whence you infer an affirmatiue position that there is proofe in the new TestameÌ„t f Fallacia ab insufficiente diuisione A good Consequent all one as if a man should say M. Theomisus is not in the Church-yard Ergo he is in the Church Had there been any such place there to be found S. Augustine was not such a stranger vnto it but that hee could haue produced it g Doctus scriba prosert de thesauro suo noua vetera with a wet finger Neither was he tÃ m imperitus rerum aestimator as to thinke that the custome of the Church would passe more currant then that protection vnto which the Lord hath set his hand and seale Wherfore wiâ—h far more probabilitie might you haue argued thus S. Augustine mentioneth only the old which is not vndoubtedly Scripture Ergo hee did not find any Canonicall Scripture to confirme it Yea but Plus vident oculi quÃ m oculus happily your Jesuiticall societie as hauing the

A LETTER TO Mr. T. H. LATE MINISTER Now Fugitiue FROM SIR EDVVARD HOBY Knight IN ANSWERE OF HIS first Motiue HEBR. 3.12 Take heed Brethren lest at any time there be in any of you an euill heart and vnfaithfull to depart away from the liuing God AT LONDON Imprinted by F. K. for Ed. Blount and W. Barret and are to be sold at the signe of the blacke Beare in Pauls Church-yard 1609. Rom. 16. v. 17.18 Now I beseech you Brethren marke them diligentlie which cause diuision and offences contrarie to the doctrine which you haue learned and auoid them For they that are such serue not the Lord Iesus Christ but their owne bellies and with faire speech and flattering deceiue the hearts of the simple TO ALL ROMISH COLLAPSED LADIES of Great Britanie COmmiserable Ladies this my Letter to M. T. H. lay a while vpon my hands for want of a conuenient messenger at last by conference with a Merchant of Dunkerke J vnderstood there was no way sooner to conuey it to S. Omers then by your Ladiships meanes as hauing weekely newes from the English house which wil hardly admit any stranger to coÌ„fer with her new Proselytes whom she masketh vnder counterfeit names Might J therefore be secured by the priuiledge of your fauors not to haue it intercepted by any Iesuiticall superuisor you shall giue mee iust cause to pay you the tribute of my best seruice J am the bolder to solicite you herein for as much as I first came to the view of his Motiue by one of your neere followers who gaue me also to vnderstand how great those Iesuites are in your books Had I no other thing to write these tidings would yet haue set my pen on worke Jn sooth my respectiue care of your welfare enforceth me exceedingly to grieue that you who haue been baptized since the superstitious Romish Rites were abolished hauing seene this inuincible faith now fully setled being so noblie descended and religiously trained vp should so prostrate your selues to that Antichristian beast whose spotted skin and alluring sent leadeth into the den of destruction I could wish his Seminaries had lesse subtiltie or you more constancy You may wel thinke were their grounds of such soundnes as they beare you in hand they would not so busilie swarme about your sexe which by reason of your lesse abilitie of iudgement is soonest inueigled with their wiles Your own Prateolus hath giuen them an hint of the eagernes of your affection of the pitifulnes of your inclination what fit instruments you are both for your sundrie opportunities and many intelligeÌ„ces to serue their turne so that if they once win the night-crow to sing their dittie then make they no doubt but that the whole house will soone dance after their pipe Hauing once diued into your secrets discontents qualities and affaires it cannot be long before they rule the rost Scire volunt secreta Domus atque indÃ¨ timeri they wil make you sure for slipping the colar without some great disaduantage Jf they find in any of you quicknes of spirit boldnes of stomacke or volubtiltie of speech she shall be employed as their Agent as not long since some of you haue been though in vaine vnto two noble personages now deceased to deale with such whom either crosses haue distracted or sicknes weakened where they themselues can haue no accesse by which meanes their infection spreadeth it selfe on euery side Hence it is that throughly to possesse themselues of your fauour they will pretermit neither time nor meanes yea they will not stick to set out our Ladies picture as one of your sprite-speakers did with one of your best faces if that may gaine your assent VVhat will be the issue of this your blind and factious zeale J refer me to your selues Js there any hope you should euer be better resolued as long as you must neither pollute your eyes with our bookes defile your eares with our Sermons nor grace our Churches with your presence You much trouble your selues about the Antiquitie of our Church which you are no lesse vnable to conceiue then vnwilling to beleeue J would to God you would not be wise aboue that which is fit Quid quod libelli Stoici inter sericos iacere puluillos amant S. Paul teacheth you to aske not to grieue your husbands at home Salomon would haue you giue the portion to the houshold the ordinarie to the maids to open your mouths with wisdom and to haue the law of grace in your tongue Then should your husbands be knowne in the gates when they sit amongst the Elders of the Land VVhereas now being kindled with those hellish Mercurialists the flame of this your intemperate zeale presageth nay threatneth the vtter desolation of your whole stocke Might it please you to consider the infinite expence which these chargeable encrochers the Iesuitical drones sucke out of your estates your monethlie checker-payments the danger of forfetting your ioyntures the incapabilitie of suing in any of his Maiesties Courts the griefe of your neere Allies and deare friends for the declining hopes of your ruinous posteritie or at the least your owne infamie wherewith you are generally branded your houses being held as nurseries of poisonous weeds and pestilent plants your tenants and attendants promising no great safetie to the King nor peace to the State nor tranquillitie to the Church Might it J say please you to ponder these things aright it is vnpossible you should be so inconsiderate as to buy a fantasticall J will not say a fanaticall humour at so high a rate VVhy should you be so respectlesse of those worthy Gentlemen your husbaÌ„ds as to cause their honors to be eclipsed their loyalty suspected and their aduancement hindred by your recusancie How do you think he should be reputed wise who can no better order his owne house How should he be held fit for gouernment in the State who cannot bring those that are so neere him to the conformitie of the Church How these things may affect you J can not tell happily as you generallie distaste all that is not of your owne stampe you will passe them ouer with a disdainefulleie still staining your selues with your owne works and going a whoring with your owne inuentions Herein shall you more harme your selues then hurt me who for my friendly aduertisement desire no other be one then the deliuerie of this letter enclosed Fare you well From my house in the Blackfriars May 20. 1609. Edward Hoby A LETTER TO Mr. T.H. LATE MINISTER NOW FVGITIVE FROM SIR EDVVARD HOBY Knight in answer of his first Motiue MAster Theophilus Higgons a Ecclesiast cap. 12. v. 12. Faciendi plures libros nullus est finis There is none end in making many bookes and as Plures so no age euer afforded tam inermes inertes as this doth among which I lighted vpon a book of yours entituled The first Motiue of T. H. Master of Artes and lately Minister

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