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itself_o set_v down_o by_o the_o jesuit_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o protestant_a peer_n it_o be_v almost_o word_n for_o word_n in_o the_o 35_o sermon_n de_fw-fr sanctis_fw-la so_o that_o there_o be_v steal_v in_o the_o case_n either_o the_o 18_o steal_v from_o the_o 35_o or_o the_o 35_o serve_v the_o 18_o that_o trick_n but_o to_o convince_v the_o world_n how_o little_a that_o passage_n can_v pretend_v to_o be_v s._n augustine_n or_o near_o his_o age_n i_o will_v give_v the_o reader_n that_o piece_n which_o the_o jesuit_n leave_v out_o of_o the_o middle_n of_o his_o quotation_n it_o be_v a_o address_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n in_o these_o word_n excuse_v we_o from_o what_o we_o fear_v for_o thou_o be_v the_o only_a hope_n of_o sinner_n through_o thou_o we_o hope_v for_o pardon_v of_o our_o sin_n and_o in_o thou_o o_o most_o bless_a virgin_n be_v the_o expectation_n sanctis_fw-la expectation_n excusa_fw-la quod_fw-la timemus_fw-la quia_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la spes_fw-la unica_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la per_fw-la te_fw-la speramus_fw-la veniam_fw-la delictorum_fw-la &_o in_o te_fw-la beatissima_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la est_fw-la expectatio_fw-la praemiorum_fw-la serm._n 18._o de_fw-fr sanctis_fw-la of_o our_o reward_n this_o be_v such_o doctrine_n as_o have_v no_o be_v in_o s._n augustine_n day_n and_o happy_a have_v it_o be_v for_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v such_o absurd_a doctrine_n be_v always_o keep_v out_o and_o i_o be_o glad_a to_o see_v the_o jesuit_n so_o much_o ashamed_a of_o it_o as_o to_o leave_v it_o out_o of_o the_o middle_n of_o his_o quotation_n his_o next_o author_n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v origen_n and_o which_o be_v still_o more_o strange_a his_o eight_o book_n against_o celsus_n which_o as_o i_o show_v above_o be_v particular_o write_v against_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n or_o saint_n but_o some_o man_n be_v very_o unhappy_a and_o it_o be_v a_o just_a judgement_n that_o they_o that_o only_o steal_v from_o one_o 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in_o prosperity_n betake_v himself_o likewise_o to_o they_o the_o one_o that_o he_o may_v find_v relief_n the_o other_o to_o beg_v continuance_n of_o his_o happiness_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v occasion_n for_o craft_n in_o the_o translation_n of_o this_o place_n however_o i_o do_v not_o charge_v it_o upon_o the_o jesuit_n who_o have_v it_o from_o the_o compiler_n nor_o the_o compiler_n who_o have_v it_o from_o father_n alexandre_n nor_o f._n alexandre_n himself_o who_o have_v it_o from_o bellarmine_n or_o some_o other_o of_o their_o writer_n who_o all_o conspire_v in_o the_o same_o abuse_n of_o s._n basil_n word_n there_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n for_o invocation_n here_o for_o s._n basil_n in_o this_o place_n to_o persuade_v the_o people_n to_o frequent_v the_o anniverssary_n of_o the_o martyr_n tell_v they_o that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o martyr_n that_o be_v where_o the_o martyr_n body_n or_o ash_n be_v lay_v be_v a_o ready_a help_n to_o christian_n but_o how_o because_o 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μετα_n μαÏÏ„Ï…Ïων_fw-gr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d s._n basil_n orat._n 20_o in_o 40._o martyr_n p._n 459._o be_v put_v up_o or_o join_v with_o the_o martyr_n prayer_n here_o have_v be_v his_o place_n to_o have_v explain_v himself_o if_o he_o will_v have_v have_v they_o to_o have_v pray_v to_o the_o martyr_n but_o we_o see_v his_o direction_n be_v not_o that_o they_o shall_v pray_v to_o but_o with_o the_o martyr_n which_o be_v direct_o against_o invocation_n of_o they_o and_o therefore_o be_v cunning_o though_o not_o honest_o leave_v out_o of_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o passage_n by_o the_o compiler_n and_o the_o jesuit_n after_o he_o that_o which_o he_o quote_v next_o from_o gregory_n nazianzen_n about_o cyprian_a and_o justina_n the_o virgin_n that_o he_o while_o he_o be_v a_o magician_n do_v tempt_v she_o to_o uncleanness_n and_o she_o escape_v he_o by_o pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n be_v every_o bit_n of_o it_o a_o shame_n since_o the_o learned_a man_n of_o the_o church_n 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