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A13174 The subuersion of Robert Parsons his confused and worthlesse worke, entituled, A treatise of three conuersions of England from paganisme to Christian religion Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629. 1606 (1606) STC 23469; ESTC S120773 105,946 186

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of_o sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n 53._o in_o the_o conventicle_n of_o florence_n we_o read_v that_o it_o be_v first_o decree_v that_o such_o as_o depart_v this_o life_n without_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n commit_v be_v purge_v with_o purgatory_n fire_n and_o that_o such_o may_v be_v ŕelieve_v by_o mass_n orison_n &_o alm_n bellarmine_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-la purgat_fw-la ca._n 13._o tell_v we_o how_o by_o many_o revelation_n it_o have_v be_v declare_v that_o soul_n be_v torment_v there_o by_o devil_n it_o can_v therefore_o be_v a_o ancient_a church_n who_o faith_n be_v patch_v up_o by_o such_o fellow_n and_o consist_v of_o such_o strange_a novelty_n 54._o whether_o indulgence_n do_v profit_n soul_n in_o purgatory_n ex_fw-la condigno_fw-la or_o only_o ex_fw-la congruo_fw-la the_o matter_n seem_v not_o yet_o resolve_v as_o may_v appear_v by_o bellarmine_n dispute_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr purgator_n c._n 14._o in_o ancient_a time_n the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o popish_a doctrine_n of_o indulgence_n it_o can_v therefore_o be_v a_o ancient_a society_n that_o teach_v such_o new_a doctrine_n and_o be_v not_o yet_o resolve_v upon_o they_o 55._o boniface_n the_o 8._o do_v first_o institute_n jubileys_n clement_n the_o 6._o from_o a_o hundred_o year_n bring_v the_o solemnity_n to_o 50._o and_o sixtus_n the_o 4._o to_o 25._o where_o it_o stand_v we_o may_v therefore_o conclude_v that_o this_o iubilate_v church_n of_o rome_n differ_v much_o from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n before_o constantine_n time_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o hear_v of_o before_o the_o day_n of_o boniface_n the_o eight_o 56._o the_o romanist_n worship_n the_o cross_n and_o crucifix_n and_o image_n of_o the_o trinity_n with_o latria_n but_o such_o a_o image-worshipping_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v until_o such_o time_n as_o thomas_n aquinas_n teach_v this_o idolatrous_a doctrine_n 57_o they_o kiss_v image_n bow_v to_o they_o offer_v incense_n to_o they_o and_o set_v up_o light_n and_o say_v mass_n before_o they_o but_o these_o trick_n be_v not_o frequent_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n nor_o ever_o in_o any_o true_a christian_a church_n be_v public_o receive_v 58._o they_o call_v upon_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o their_o gate_n of_o salvation_n and_o pray_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n as_o mediator_n of_o intercession_n they_o do_v also_o make_v vow_n to_o they_o and_o say_v mass_n in_o their_o honour_n all_o which_o prove_v the_o erection_n of_o their_o congregation_n to_o be_v new_a and_o of_o a_o late_a device_n 59_o they_o believe_v that_o s._n rock_n and_o s._n sebastian_n cure_v the_o plague_n that_o apollonia_n cure_v toothache_n that_o s._n lewes_n have_v horse_n in_o his_o protection_n and_o s._n antony_n pig_n of_o which_o all_o true_a christian_n may_v be_v much_o ashamed_a 60._o with_o the_o collyridian_n the_o romanist_n offer_v a_o rake_n in_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o with_o 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