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A07472 A pill to purge out poperie: or, A catechisme for Romish Catholikes shewing that popery is contrarie to the grounds of the Catholike religion, and that therefore papists cannot be good Catholikes. Mico, John. 1623 (1623) STC 17858; ESTC S121915 31,742 49

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Trent This concupiscence which the Apostle sometime calleth sinne the holy Synod declareth that the Catholike Church did neuer vnderstand to be called sinne because it is truely properly sinne in the regenerate but because it commeth of sinne and inclineth vnto sinne If any man thinke the contrarie let him be accursed Sess 5. cap. 1. de pecc orig Wherein they both decree against the Apostle himselfe Rom. 7.23 and also they gaine say themselues for if this concupiscence boile out of originall sinne as out of a fountaine and that is damnable it followeth that concupiscence or lust is also sinne before God and doth deserue condemnation They say that in the regenerate it is veniall But this is an vndoubted principle that all sinnes in themselues and their owne nature are mortall And concerning this veniall sinne it was not knowne among the Fathers for 700. yeeres after Christ And thus you see what grosse things they both teach and practise contrary to the Commandements of God whereby it plainely appeareth that Popery cannot bee of God for thus I reason Whatsoeuer religion doth teach things contrary to the Commandements of God is not of God but Poperie doth so and therefore it is not of GOD and so by good consequence Papists cannot be good Catholikes DIALOGVE 13. C. Hitherto you haue shewed that the Papists teach many things contrary to the Creede the Sacraments and the ten Commandements now tell me I pray you whether they teach any thing contrary to the Lords Prayer M. They doe likewise teach practise many things contrarie thereunto I will but onely name some of them The Lords Prayer teacheth vs to call vpon God only They teach and practise prayer to Saints In the first Petition we pray for the hallowing of Gods Name They giue vnto Saints departed that which is proper to God and so dishonour Gods Name In the second petition we pray for the erecting of Gods Kingdome of grace in our hearts and also for the meanes thereof namely the preaching hearing of Gods Word They hinder the comming of Gods Kingdome in reiecting the Word of God and in persecuting such as will preach heare and reade it Contrary to the third petition is their doctrine of free-will Contrary to the fifth petition is their doctrine of satisfaction for sin In the sixth petition we pray for strength to withstand Satan his temptations They teach people to driue away the Diuell with holy-water and such like childish toyes These and other such like things they teach and practise contrary to the Lords Pray●r DIALOGVE 14. C. If Popery be so contrary to the grounds of Religion then we may ●ot ioyne with the Papists in their profession M. It is true indeede we must therefore doe as the Lord ●●de Ieremy Chap. 15.19 Let them returne to thee but re●urne not thou to them We may ioyne with them in respect ●f ciuill societie but not in respect of Religion and yet e●en then we are to take heed left we be corrupted by them ●r he that toucheth Pitch shall be defiled therewith Some thinke that our Religion and the religion of the present Church of Rome are all one for substance and that they may be vnited but they are grosely deceiued for an vnion of these two Religions can neuer be made more then the vnion of light and darknesse and that because the Church of Rome as hath at large bin shewed hath strooke at the very foundation C. If Poperie bee so contrary to the very grounds of Religion then what is the cause that so many yea of the more wise and learned sort do embrace and cleaue to it M. One speciall cause of it is that because men will not receiue the loue of the Trueth therefore God will send them strong delusion that they should beleeue a lie 2. Thes 2.10 11. A second cause is ignorance of the Scriptures and of the grounds of Religion for if men would well acquaint themselues herewith they should easily see the grossenesse of Poperie A third cause is that Popery is very agreeable and pleasing to mans corrupt nature As for example to be iustified by our good works to haue images to worship God in to liue in ignorance to haue pardons for our sinnes to serue God in outward ceremonies as in choice of meate difference of dayes c. these are things very agreeable pleasing to our corrupt nature and therefore one especiall cause why so many embrace Popery A fourth cause is the tyranny of the Church of Rome whose chiefe meanes to vphold her religion is fire sword for were it not for this many thousands in a few yeers would vtterly renounce Popery A fifth cause why so many especially of the Learned d● embrace it is pompe and profit that is ambition and couetousnesse This was that which made the Scribes and Pharises eue● against their owne knowledge to withstand Christ and 〈◊〉 Gospell And this makes many learned Papists ro do the like They know no doubt that in some things they erre as it doth appeare by the words of Stephen Gardiner on his death bed The Bishop of Chichester seeing him to be in a desperate case comforteth him with the hope of remission of sinnes by the merits of Christ Gardiner hereunto answereth thus What will you open that gappe now you may speake it to me and to such as are in my case but if you teach it to the people then farewell all meaning our authority pompe and profit by absolutions Masses c. These are the speciall causes why so many embrace Popery C. There is one thing more that I would gladly know concerning the Papists and that is whether a Papist may be saued seeing that Pope●ie is so contrary to the grounds of Religion M. You are then to marke what a Papist is A Papist as the Rhemists on Acts 11. Sect. 4. doe describe him is one that cleaueth to the Pope in Religion and is obedient to him in all things Euery one now that is vnder the iurisdictiō of the Pope is not to be counted a Papist for there are some euen in Italy ●paine c. that hold the Grounds of Religion doe sigh and ●rone vnder the Romish yoke and desire to be free'd from 〈◊〉 yea would reioyce to see it Againe there may be some that for want of knowledge ●nd the meanes thereof are entangled with some points of ●opery but yet they hold the foundation which is CHRIST ●ESVS and looke to be saued by his merits and not by their ●wne or any others Such we account not Papists but the ●●e Church and children of GOD. But by Papists wee meane such as cleaue fast to the Pope in Religion are in all ●●ings obedient to him will not be reclaimed from their er●●urs refuse to heare the Word of God to read the Scrip●●res or any other good bookes Of such we may boldly say ●●t if they thus continue to the end they cannot be saued DIALOGVE 15. C. I
both the person and office of our Mediator namely that he is both God and man a Prophet Priest and King Concerning his person although in words they confesse him to be God and man yet in deed they deny it for they ascribe to him a body inuisible and infinite they teach that he is corporally present in infinite places at once which is proper onely to God and contrary to the nature of a true body And so in effect they doe euen deny his Man-hood The Sonne of God is called Iesus because hee is a Sauiour yea the onely and perfect Sauiour which saueth vs from our sinnes that is hath deliuered vs not onely from the blame or guiltinesse but fully also from the punishment due to our sinnes Mat. 1.21 Acts 4.12 Heb. 7.25 The Papists teach that there must also some satisfaction of our owne come to make vp our perfect Redemption Concil Trid. Sess 14.6.8 Can. 11.15 They will not be saued only by IESVS CHRIST but by the merits also of Saints their owne merits Popes pardons c. yea they ascribe that to others which is proper to Christ alone and so consequently make them their Sauiours As for example They ascribe to St. Francis the same titles properties power and the very same office due to Iesus Christ and in all respects they make him like to Christ whatsoeuer Christ did that as they say did S. Francis And what is this in effect but to make him their Sauiour That they doe ascribe the former things to S. Francis is to be seene in a Booke written on purpose to shewe the conformity betweene him Christ called The Conformitie of Francis the which hath bin confirmed by the authority of the Church of Rome Pope Gregory the Ninth enioyned the faithfull to hold and firmely to beleeue the things taught in the said booke concerning S. Francis and that he should be punished as an Hereticke that would thinke the contrary Confor F. 2. lib. 1. Fol. 3. C. To whom else doe they ascribe that which is proper to IESVS CHRIST M. To the Virgin Mary They describe her nature by her name Maria consisting of fiue letters and these as they say doe import the fiue offices to be exercised by her toward vs. The first is Maternitatis of Mother-hood signified by the letter M for shee as they say is the Mother of mercy through whom we obtaine mercy Her second office is Conseruationis of conseruing the treasure of God signified by the letter A which representeth Arcam thesauri the chest of treasure for in her as they say we shall find an infinite treasure of the wisedome and grace of God Her third office is Directionis gubernationis of direction and gouerning by example of her life This is imported by the letter R. and therefore she is named Regina the Queene Her fourth office is Iaculationis repulsionis inimicorum of flinging and repelling backe of enemies signified by the letter I and therefore they pray thus to her Tu nos ab hoste protege hora mortis suscipe Protect thou vs from the enemy and receiue vs at the houre of death Her last office is Aduocationis of Aduocation imported by the letter A. From whence they pray thus O our Aduocate turne thy mercifull eyes vnto vs. And what doe they herein but euen place her in the roome of Iesus and make her their Sauiour These be the very words of Fryer Iohn Viguerius a Doctor yea and a publike professour of Diuinitie among them in his Institutions to his Catholike Theologie Cap. 20. Sect. 9. Fol. 214. And herein he is like to such as can make Bells to sound euen what pleaseth their phantasticall braine and as best may feede their superstitious humours Further they say That she is the originall of our saluation the recouerer of grace and forgiuenesse our hope our saluation resurrection c. yea that to her it is giuen to bruise the Serpents head that she hath done it and procured that peace betweene God and man which no man could procure Viguerius ibid. 214. 215. Confor Fran. in conclus Lib. 1. Is not this to make her a Sauiour C. Surely yes and J thinke it most horrible blasphemie M. Account you this blasphemy what say you then to that which Carolus Scribanius a Iesuite hath written of her As namely First that the milke of Mary may come into comparison with the bloud of Christ Secondly that the Christian mās faith may lawfully take hold of both as wel as one Thirdly that the best compound for a sicke soule is to mixe together her milke and Christs bloud Fourthly that the sinnes and spirituall diseases of the soule are cured aswell by her milke as by his bloud Fifthly that her milke and the merit and vertue of it is more precious and excellent then Christs bloud These most horrible blasphemies with many such like are to bee found in the aforesaid Iesuites booke which M. C. hath put into English and sufficiently answered calling it The Iesuites Gospell besides all these things in a booke called the Ladies Psalter they haue put out the word Lord and put in the word Lady As for example Psalme 110.1 The Lord said vnto our Lady Sit thou mother at my right hand c. The like they doe in the rest of the Psalmes And is not this good stuffe thinke you C. These bookes were written long agone and it may be that they are now reiected by the Papists M. The later of them was indeede written long agone but is not reiected but stands vncontrouled or rather defended by the Iesuites and those of the principall The formeh was written but lately And whereas both the Author and his booke as M.C. saith deserued the fire and halter it was so farre frō being misliked in the Romane Sinagogue or any way censured that the booke hath bin reprinted the Author and his booke stand enrolled approued and commended in their great volumes set out for that purpose for good and Catholike As they place St. Francis and the Virgin Mary in Christs roome so doe they the Pope also a●ribing that to him which is proper vnto Iesus Christ and ●ay not without blasphemy be ascribed to any creature They say that the Pope is the Sun The Church the Moone The Pope is the Bridegroome the Church the Bride The Pope is the head the Church the body And what is this but to place the Pope in the roome of Iesus Christ and euen to say that the Pope is Christ Confor F. 2. li. 2. fol. 10. That they doe thus place S. Francis the Virgin Mary and the Pope in Christs roome and so make them Sauiours is more at large and sufficiently proued out of their owne Writers in a little Treatise set forth by M. Thomas Rogers in the yeere 1589. intituled An historicall Dialogue of Antichrist and Popery DIALOGVE 3. Ch. Hitherto you haue shewed how the Son of God is called Iesus because he is a Sauiour and