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philistines_n and_o yet_o not_o disannul_v their_o church-estate_n and_o by_o like_a proportion_n so_o may_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n take_v up_o some_o order_n as_o the_o cart_v of_o some_o part_n of_o their_o worship_n upon_o a_o book_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o antichrist_n and_o yet_o not_o forthwith_o evacuate_v their_o church-estate_n but_o this_o let_v i_o further_o add_v that_o a_o godly_a person_n may_v have_v some_o kind_n of_o communion_n so_o far_o as_o hear_v the_o word_n from_o a_o minister_n well_o gift_v by_o christ_n to_o who_o call_v some_o corruption_n may_v cleave_v both_o in_o his_o church-estate_n and_o in_o his_o ordination_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o no_o antichristian_a pollution_n at_o all_o may_v cleave_v or_o redound_v to_o the_o hearer_n by_o his_o hear_n of_o he_o and_o this_o be_v the_o principal_a exception_n which_o the_o examiner_n take_v against_o some_o of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n &_o against_o all_o the_o church_n for_o their_o sake_n we_o shall_v further_o god_n will_v clear_v when_o the_o examiner_n put_v it_o upon_o we_o in_o the_o sequel_n mean_a while_n we_o profess_v as_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o such_o a_o action_n be_v not_o any_o church-communion_n with_o antichrist_n nor_o do_v so_o enthrall_v the_o people_n of_o god_n unto_o antichrist_n as_o to_o separate_v they_o from_o christ_n no_o not_o as_o he_o be_v head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o answer_n which_o upon_o occasio_fw-la of_o this_o point_n the_o examiner_n give_v to_o the_o papist_n question_n where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n though_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o well_o and_o good_a yet_o it_o gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o straitn_v the_o holy_a counsel_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n the_o question_n say_v he_o be_v thus_o well_o answer_v to_o wit_n that_o since_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n truth_n and_o the_o holy_a city_n according_a to_o the_o prophecy_n rev._n 11._o &_o 13._o have_v be_v tread_v underfoot_n and_o the_o whole_a earth_n have_v wander_v after_o the_o beast_n yet_o god_n have_v stir_v up_o witness_n to_o prophecy_n in_o sackcloth_n against_o the_o beast_n during_o his_o 42_o month_n reign_n nevertheless_o these_o witness_n have_v in_o their_o time_n more_o or_o less_o submit_v to_o antichrist_n and_o his_o church_n worship_n ministry_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o consequent_o have_v be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o true_a church_n that_o be_v christ_n take_v for_o the_o church_n in_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o that_o holy_a way_n of_o worship_n which_o he_o himself_o at_o first_o appoint_v this_o answer_n give_v away_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o papist_n they_o demand_v where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n this_o answer_n give_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o since_o the_o apostasy_n there_o be_v no_o particular_a church_n extant_a in_o the_o world_n this_o full_o satisfi_v their_o desire_n and_o expectation_n for_o if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o world_n for_o so_o many_o century_n of_o year_n till_o luther_n than_o they_o ready_o conclude_v that_o their_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v before_o luther_n the_o only_a church_n in_o the_o world_n for_o they_o urge_v it_o and_o i_o know_v not_o how_o we_o can_v fair_o deny_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n even_o that_o church_n to_o which_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v commit_v which_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n be_v that_o against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prevail_v and_o so_o not_o all_o the_o power_n of_o antichrist_n if_o then_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n shall_v never_o cease_v and_o yet_o during_o all_o that_o time_n of_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n no_o church_n be_v extant_a in_o the_o world_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n then_o during_o all_o that_o time_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o expire_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v and_o have_v be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ_n these_o many_o age_n beside_o as_o this_o answerer_n gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o make_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n mat._n 16.18_o 19_o of_o none_o effect_v so_o it_o straitn_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n in_o the_o very_a text_n of_o scripture_n allege_v by_o himself_o for_o in_o that_o text_n rev._n 11._o where_o the_o outward_a court_n be_v give_v to_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a court_n give_v to_o antichrist_n &_o his_o clergy_n v._n 2._o there_o also_o a_o rod_n or_o reed_n be_v give_v by_o the_o angel_n unto_o john_n to_o measure_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o the_o altar_n and_o they_o that_o worship_n therein_o v._o 1._o which_o evident_o hold_v forth_o that_o even_o then_o there_o be_v somewhere_o extant_a the_o temple_n that_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o have_v communion_n with_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n there_o call_v the_o altar_n and_o the_o temple_n be_v furnish_v with_o true_a worshipper_n and_o all_o measure_v 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time_n wherein_o the_o beast_n reign_v rev._n 13.5_o and_o wherein_o the_o gentile_n have_v obtain_v rule_n in_o the_o court_n tread_v down_o the_o holy_a city_n underfoot_n rev._n 11.2_o moreover_o evident_a also_o it_o be_v that_o all_o the_o angel_n or_o minister_n of_o god_n wrath_n that_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n do_v all_o of_o they_o issue_n forth_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n as_o then_o open_v rev._n 15.5_o 6_o which_o argue_v that_o the_o temple_n or_o church_n be_v not_o only_o then_o visible_a but_o open_o visible_a not_o visible_a only_o to_o the_o secret_a assembly_n of_o the_o true_a worshipper_n but_o open_o conspicuous_a to_o they_o that_o have_v not_o see_v it_o before_o now_o how_o all_o those_o seven_o angel_n shall_v come_v out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o it_o open_o visible_a and_o all_o of_o they_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n by_o seven_o degree_n to_o the_o 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