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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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origen_n purgatory_n be_v universal_a which_o all_o prophet_n apostle_n 6._o origen_n in_o exod._n hom._n 6._o the_o bless_a virgin_n must_v pass_v through_o not_o some_o only_a neither_o very_o good_a nor_o very_o bad_a but_o of_o a_o middle_a sort_n as_o romanist_n hold_v second_o the_o purgation_n saint_n basil_n gregory_n nyssen_n and_o other_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o before_o the_o resurrection_n lucam_n v._o origen_n in_o lib._n regum_fw-la p._n 36._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 5._o p._n 241._o cyrilli_n catech._n l._n 15._o pag._n 168._o ego_fw-la puto_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o post_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la ex_fw-la mortuis_fw-la indigeamus_fw-la sacramento_fw-la nos_fw-la eluente_fw-la &_o purgante_fw-la origen_n hom._n 14._o in_o lucam_n but_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n by_o the_o fire_n of_o conflagration_n which_o shall_v purge_v as_o some_o think_v the_o whole_a creation_n so_o that_o at_o last_o all_o man_n even_o devil_n too_o shall_v be_v save_v as_o origen_n 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