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A16183 A large examination taken at Lambeth, according to his Maiesties direction, point by point, of M. G. Blakwell, made Arch-priest of England, by Pope Clement 8 Vpon occasion of a certaine answere of his, without the priuitie of the state, to a letter lately sent vnto him from Cardinall Bellarmine, blaming him for taking the oath of Allegeance. Together with the Cardinals letter, and M. Blakwels said answere vnto it. Also M. Blakwels letter to the Romish Catholickes in England, aswell ecclesiasticall, as lay. Blackwell, George, 1546 or 7-1613.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. 1609 (1609) STC 3104; ESTC S121306 104,118 220

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themselves_o against_o it_o not_o spare_v cardinal_n bellarmine_n himself_o against_o who_o forasmuch_o as_o his_o drift_n be_v principal_o throughout_o his_o whole_a book_n he_o be_v much_o to_o blame_v this_o examinate_a think_v to_o entitle_v it_o to_o be_v write_v adversus_fw-la impios_fw-la politicos_fw-la &_o nostritemporis_fw-la haereticos_fw-la against_o the_o wicked_a politics_n &_o heretic_n of_o our_o time_n with_o this_o carerius_fw-la 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o such_o as_o be_v on_o that_o side_n do_v resolute_o concur_v insomuch_o as_o they_o doubt_v not_o this_o examinat_fw-la consess_v to_o renew_v again_o the_o long_o dislike_v and_o impugn_a assertion_n of_o the_o old_a canonist_n and_o to_o publish_v they_o now_o unto_o the_o world_n more_o eager_o then_o heretofore_o as_o above_o he_o have_v touch_v for_o sound_n and_o catholic_a doctrine_n they_o saying_n 21_o that_o david_n do_v foretell_v that_o the_o priesthood_n of_o 432._o 〈…〉_o anno_fw-la 57_o pag._n 432._o christ_n shall_v 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