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A14227 An ansvver to a challenge made by a Iesuite in Ireland Wherein the iudgement of antiquity in the points questioned is truely delivered, and the noveltie of the now romish doctrine plainly discovered. By Iames Vssher Bishop of Meath. Ussher, James, 1581-1656.; Malone, William, 1586-1656. 1624 (1624) STC 24542; ESTC S118933 526,688 560

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counsel_n name_n the_o simple_a sort_n may_v be_v more_o easy_o induce_v to_o mistake_v this_o nicene_n for_o that_o other_o catholic_n nicene_n creed_n and_o whereas_o the_o true_a nicene_n father_n have_v in_o their_o creed_n omit_v the_o article_n of_o the_o descent_n into_o hell_n which_o as_o we_o shall_v afterward_o hear_v out_o of_o ruffinus_n be_v not_o to_o be_v have_v in_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o eastern_a church_n these_o bastard_n fatherling_n in_o their_o nicene_n creed_n do_v not_o only_o insert_v this_o clause_n 21._o he_o descend_v to_o the_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n but_o add_v also_o for_o further_a amplification_n who_o hell_n itself_o tremble_v at_o the_o like_a do_v they_o with_o the_o word_n a_o little_a alter_v in_o another_o latin_n creed_n set_v out_o in_o a_o conventicle_n gather_v at_o constantinople_n and_o in_o a_o three_o creed_n likewise_o frame_v by_o they_o at_o sirmium_n and_o confirm_v the_o same_o year_n in_o their_o great_a council_n at_o 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