Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
book_n church_n prayer_n public_a 3,025 5 6.8559 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A56660 A friendly debate betwixt two neighbours, the one a conformist, the other a non-conformist about several weighty matters / published for the benefit of this city, by a lover of it, and of pure religion.; Friendly debate between a conformist and a non-conformist Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707.; Wild, Robert, 1609-1679. 1668 (1668) Wing P798; ESTC R41393 117,976 250

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

a_o separation_n and_o one_o thing_n more_o desire_n to_o learn_v of_o they_o which_o be_v whether_o those_o thing_n that_o any_o of_o they_o have_v suffer_v be_v not_o the_o effect_n and_o punishment_n of_o their_o separation_n and_o not_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o as_o for_o any_o restraint_n the_o law_n have_v lay_v upon_o their_o liberty_n they_o be_v nothing_o comparable_a to_o those_o that_o be_v lay_v on_o we_o when_o they_o be_v in_o power_n and_o yet_o they_o will_v take_v it_o ill_a if_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v persecutor_n for_o if_o you_o look_v into_o a_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n of_o 11._o august_n 1645._o for_o put_v in_o execution_n the_o directory_n you_o will_v find_v these_o word_n that_o if_o any_o person_n or_o person_n whatsoever_o shall_v at_o any_o time_n or_o time_n hereafter_o use_n or_o cause_v the_o aforesaid_a book_n of_o common-prayer_n to_o be_v use_v in_o any_o church_n chappel_n or_o public_a place_n of_o worship_n or_o in_o any_o private_a place_n or_o family_n within_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n or_o the_o dominion_n of_o wales_n or_o port_n and_o ●own_n of_o berwick_n every_o such_o person_n so_o offend_v ●herein_o shall_v for_o the_o first_o offence_n pay_v the_o sum_n ●f_n five_o pound_n of_o lawful_a english_a money_n for_o the_o second_o offence_n ten_o pound_n and_o for_o the_o three_o shall_v suffer_v one_o whole_a year_n imprisonment_n without_o bail_n or_o mainprize_n can_v you_o name_v i_o any_o law_n now_o extant_a so_o severe_a and_o cruel_a as_o this_o be_v do_v we_o abridge_v the_o poor_a tradesman_n so_o much_o of_o his_o liberty_n as_o than_o they_o will_v have_v abridge_v all_o the_o noble_n in_o the_o land_n nay_o for_o any_o thing_n i_o see_v the_o king_n himself_o at_o least_o his_o family_n which_o be_v forbid_v the_o use_n of_o common-prayer_n under_o such_o great_a penalty_n be_v you_o not_o all_o allow_v to_o worship_n god_n just_a as_o you_o please_v yourselves_o in_o your_o own_o family_n nay_o may_v not_o some_o of_o your_o neighbour_n join_v with_o you_o if_o you_o and_o they_o be_v so_o mind_v for_o shame_n do_v not_o complain_v of_o persecution_n when_o you_o be_v so_o kind_o use_v who_o endeavour_v in_o such_o a_o manner_n to_o oppress_v other_o and_o blush_v to_o think_v that_o you_o shall_v separate_v upon_o this_o account_n which_o yet_o be_v all_o that_o you_o can_v have_v the_o face_n to_o pretend_v to_o excuse_v the_o schism_n you_o have_v make_v the_o common-prayer_n you_o see_v be_v never_o impose_v with_o such_o rigour_n as_o your_o directory_n be_v and_o whereas_o you_o now_o take_v what_o liberty_n you_o listen_v to_o preach_v and_o write_v and_o print_v what_o you_o think_v good_a against_o the_o common-prayer_n it_o be_v then_o ordain_v that_o none_o shall_v do_v so_o against_o the_o directory_n or_o any_o thing_n contain_v therein_o which_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o and_o in_o case_n any_o man_n be_v so_o bold_a he_o be_v to_o forfeit_v such_o a_o sum_n of_o money_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v fit_a to_o be_v impose_v on_o he_o by_o those_o before_o who_o he_o have_v his_o trial_n provide_v it_o be_v not_o less_o than_o five_o pound_n nor_o more_o than_o fifty_o who_o shall_v try_v he_o no_o body_n know_v but_o he_o be_v sure_a to_o meet_v with_o little_a favour_n if_o the_o directory-man_n meet_v with_o he_o and_o be_v to_o handle_v he_o who_o will_v tolerate_v no_o dissenter_n from_o they_o and_o their_o reason_n be_v give_v in_o the_o london_n minister_n letter_n to_o the_o assembly_n because_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o the_o covenant_n to_o extirpate_v all_o scism_n and_o to_o endeavour_v the_o lord_n shall_v be_v one_o and_o his_o name_n one_o in_o the_o three_o kingdom_n i._n e._n that_o all_o shall_v subscribe_v to_o the_o directory_n and_o there_o be_v another_o thing_n which_o to_o i_o seem_v something_o hard_a i_o be_o sure_a you_o ought_v to_o judge_v it_o so_o viz._n a_o ordinance_n of_o 2._o june_n 1646._o require_v that_o all_o people_n who_o be_v come_v to_o reside_v in_o the_o parliament-quarter_n shall_v take_v the_o national_a league_n and_o covenant_n and_o the_o negative_a oath_n notwithstanding_o any_o article_n that_o have_v be_v make_v by_o the_o soldiery_n why_o shall_v you_o complain_v of_o the_o late_a oxford_n act_n as_o it_o be_v common_o call_v who_o can_v endure_v heretofore_o that_o man_n shall_v be_v use_v so_o severe_o compare_v that_o and_o this_o ordinance_n together_o and_o tell_v i_o which_o of_o they_o be_v most_o moderate_a that_o which_o banish_a man_n out_o of_o many_o county_n or_o that_o which_o only_o prohibit_v their_o near_a habitation_n to_o a_o town_n or_o two_o that_o which_o make_v void_a the_o promise_n which_o their_o own_o officer_n have_v make_v or_o that_o which_o be_v against_o no_o engagement_n at_o all_o i_o wish_v you_o will_v consider_v these_o thing_n with_o a_o great_a many_o more_o of_o like_a nature_n for_o though_o your_o prejudices_fw-la be_v strong_a i_o hope_v sometime_o they_o may_v serve_v to_o convince_v you_o and_o the_o mention_n of_o the_o covenant_n just_o now_o bring_v a_o considerable_a thing_n to_o my_o mind_n which_o if_o it_o will_v not_o be_v tedious_a i_o will_v willing_o propound_v and_o desire_v you_o to_o inquire_v about_o it_o n._n c._n i_o pray_v say_v on_o for_o your_o discourse_n begin_v to_o be_v pleasant_a to_o i_o c._n i_o wish_v you_o will_v ask_v your_o minister_n why_o they_o themselves_o heretofore_o not_o only_o approve_v of_o certain_a ceremony_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n but_o also_o be_v well_o please_v they_o shall_v be_v enjoin_v and_o yet_o now_o cry_v out_o upon_o our_o ceremony_n or_o at_o least_o will_v have_v they_o leave_v at_o liberty_n n._n c._n what_o ceremony_n and_o worship_n do_v you_o mean_v c._n be_v not_o the_o take_n of_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n a_o piece_n of_o religion_n n._n c._n yes_o it_o be_v a_o oath_n c._n read_v then_o a_o ordinance_n of_o 2._o febr._n 1643._o ☜_o ☜_o and_o you_o will_v find_v it_o be_v ordain_v among_o other_o thing_n that_o during_o the_o time_n that_o the_o minister_n read_v the_o whole_a covenant_n to_o the_o people_n the_o whole_a congregation_n shall_v be_v uncover_v there_o be_v one_o ceremony_n which_o now_o you_o will_v by_o no_o mean_n endure_v shall_v be_v impose_v on_o you_o at_o the_o hear_n of_o sermon_n then_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o read_n it_o they_o appoint_v that_o all_o shall_v take_v it_o stand_v there_o be_v another_o ceremony_n and_o last_o that_o they_o shall_v lift_v up_o their_o right_a hand_n bare_a that_o be_v another_o if_o not_o two_o ceremony_n more_o for_o they_o enjoin_v they_o to_o lift_v up_o the_o right_a hand_n not_o the_o left_a and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v bare_a not_o cover_v with_o a_o glove_n and_o this_o very_a ordinance_n touch_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o take_v the_o covenant_n they_o desire_v may_v be_v confirm_v by_o act_n of_o parliament_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o proposition_n send_v to_o his_o majesty_n at_o newcastle_n july_n 11._o 1646._o pray_v tell_v i_o if_o you_o can_v or_o else_o make_v enquiry_n why_o they_o do_v not_o leave_v man_n to_o their_o way_n and_o manner_n of_o do_v this_o religious_a act_n see_v they_o will_v have_v no_o body_n tie_v to_o a_o posture_n now_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n n._n c._n i_o will_v inquire_v for_o i_o know_v no_o reason_n of_o it_o c._n if_o you_o please_v ask_v they_o another_o thing_n which_o be_v why_o they_o do_v not_o take_v their_o own_o advice_n which_o they_o give_v about_o the_o covenant_n for_o if_o they_o will_v the_o covenant_n need_v not_o keep_v they_o from_o do_v that_o which_o otherwise_o many_o of_o they_o profess_v they_o can_v do_v n._n c._n you_o must_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o interpret_v yourself_o for_o i_o know_v not_o what_o you_o intend_v c._n the_o parliament_n in_o the_o ordinance_n now_o mention_v desire_v the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n to_o prepare_v a_o exhortation_n for_o the_o better_a take_v of_o the_o covenant_n which_o shall_v be_v read_v together_o with_o it_o now_o in_o that_o exhortation_n which_o be_v vote_v to_o be_v print_v febr._n 9_o 1643._o the_o assembly_n entreat_v the_o episcopal_a clergy_n who_o say_v they_o can_v not_o take_v the_o covenant_n because_o it_o be_v against_o their_o former_a oath_n to_o consider_v this_o which_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o will_v have_v they_o consider_v now_o that_o if_o any_o oath_n be_v find_v into_o which_o any_o minister_n or_o other_o have_v enter_v not_o warrant_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o land_n in_o this_o case_n they_o must_v teach_v themselves_o and_o other_o that_o such_o oath_n call_v for_o repentance_n not_o pertinacy_n
it_o and_o convince_v you_o of_o your_o error_n even_o from_o your_o own_o practice_n n._n c._n my_o practice_n i_o never_o use_v any_o and_o i_o think_v never_o shall_v c._n it_o be_v a_o wonderful_a thing_n that_o you_o shall_v be_v so_o blind_a do_v you_o never_o sing_v the_o psalm_n of_o david_n and_o that_o as_o they_o be_v translate_v into_o english_a metre_n n.c._n yes_o c._n those_o be_v prayer_n and_o petition_n as_o well_o as_o thanksgiving_n be_v they_o not_o and_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o the_o word_n be_v so_o mean_a and_o sometime_o uncouth_a nay_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o prophet_n so_o often_o mistake_v in_o that_o translation_n which_o be_v common_o use_v that_o if_o you_o have_v so_o much_o to_o except_v against_o the_o common_a prayer_n as_o may_v reasonable_o be_v except_v against_o many_o thing_n there_o there_o will_v be_v no_o end_n of_o your_o complaint_n you_o will_v be_v ten_o time_n loud_o in_o your_o clamour_n than_o you_o be_v n._n c._n indeed_o i_o do_v not_o think_v of_o this_o c._n your_o minister_n do_v but_o be_v not_o so_o smcere_a as_o to_o give_v you_o notice_n of_o it_o lest_o you_o shall_v be_v disabused_a and_o they_o shall_v lose_v your_o custom_n but_o pray_v think_v of_o it_o yourself_o hereafter_o and_o tell_v i_o why_o it_o be_v not_o as_o lawful_a to_o use_v a_o form_n of_o prayer_n in_o prose_n as_o to_o use_v one_o in_o verse_n you_o will_v be_v a_o marvellous_a man_n if_o you_o can_v show_v a_o reason_n of_o the_o difference_n n._n c._n but_o this_o form_n be_v not_o take_v out_o of_o the_o mass_n book_n as_o the_o common_a prayer_n be_v c._n then_o you_o lay_v down_o your_o quarrel_n at_o a_o form_n of_o prayer_n and_o only_a scruple_n this_o form_n now_o in_o use_n and_o that_o because_o it_o have_v be_v use_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n n._n c._n very_o right_a c._n then_o pray_v lay_v aside_o your_o bible_n too_o at_o least_o cut_v the_o psalter_n out_o of_o your_o book_n for_o that_o be_v much_o in_o use_n in_o their_o service_n n._n c._n you_o go_v too_o fast_o that_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v use_v but_o any_o thing_n else_o use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o think_v we_o shall_v have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o c._n this_o be_v a_o foolish_a exception_n for_o the_o reason_n you_o give_v i_o conclude_v against_o the_o use_n of_o the_o psalm_n too_o or_o else_o it_o conclude_v nothing_o which_o i_o thus_o demonstrate_v you_o lie_v down_o this_o proposition_n whatsoever_o be_v use_v in_o the_o service_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n must_v not_o be_v use_v by_o we_o to_o this_o i_o add_v another_o the_o psalm_n and_o other_o scripture_n be_v use_v in_o the_o service_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n now_o do_v you_o draw_v any_o other_o conclusion_n if_o you_o can_v from_o these_o two_o but_o this_o that_o those_o scripture_n must_v not_o be_v use_v by_o we_o if_o you_o like_v not_o this_o conclusion_n than_o you_o must_v mend_v the_o first_o proposition_n which_o be_v your_o own_o and_o you_o may_v do_v what_o you_o will_v with_o it_o as_o for_o i_o it_o can_v be_v mend_v for_o it_o be_v certain_o true_a now_o how_o will_v you_o mend_v it_o but_o by_o allow_v we_o the_o use_n of_o whatsoever_o be_v good_a in_o their_o service_n and_o then_o you_o must_v admit_v of_o more_o than_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v use_v by_o we_o even_o all_o that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n as_o our_o prayer_n certain_o be_v though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v but_o translation_n of_o the_o latin_a prayer_n use_v in_o that_o church_n n._n c._n i_o will_v mend_v it_o in_o this_o manner_n whatsoever_o they_o use_v except_o it_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n we_o be_v not_o to_o use_v it_o c._n it_o be_v mere_a humour_n that_o make_v you_o limit_v it_o in_o this_o manner_n for_o there_o be_v something_o good_a beside_o the_o scripture_n viz._n that_o which_o be_v write_v say_v or_o do_v according_a to_o it_o and_o why_o they_o shall_v make_v any_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n unuseful_a to_o we_o by_o their_o use_v it_o since_o you_o confess_v the_o holy_a scripture_n notwithstanding_o their_o use_n nay_o abuse_n of_o it_o be_v not_o profane_v thereby_o be_v past_o my_o capacity_n to_o understand_v but_o perhaps_o you_o will_v be_v more_o sensible_a of_o what_o i_o say_v if_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o upon_o these_o principle_n you_o must_v reject_v the_o use_n of_o the_o creed_n common_o call_v the_o apostle_n creed_n because_o it_o be_v profess_v there_o in_o divine_a service_n as_o well_o as_o here_o n._n c._n i_o will_v not_o willing_o go_v so_o far_o from_o they_o c._n not_o go_v you_o must_v whether_o you_o will_v or_o no_o if_o you_o will_v follow_v your_o principle_n which_o will_v carry_v you_o so_o far_o and_o a_o great_a deal_n far_o for_o this_o be_v the_o very_a bottom_n on_o which_o your_o discourse_n stand_v that_o whatsoever_o have_v be_v in_o use_n by_o a_o bad_a company_n of_o man_n must_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v use_v by_o we_o in_o god_n worship_n except_o only_o such_o portion_n of_o holy_a scripture_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v fit_a to_o be_v read_v in_o our_o assembly_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o you_o may_v not_o lift_v up_o your_o eye_n to_o heaven_n nor_o kneel_v when_o you_o pray_v nor_o n._n c._n now_o methinks_v you_o rave_v c._n pray_v hear_v i_o a_o little_a and_o you_o shall_v see_v it_o be_v you_o that_o be_v wild_a and_o not_o i_o so_o wild_a as_o to_o practice_v that_o which_o you_o condemn_v if_o we_o must_v not_o do_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n than_o much_o less_o what_o heathen_n have_v do_v and_o still_o do_v for_o they_o be_v worse_o than_o the_o roman_a church_n n._n c._n i_o think_v your_o proposition_n be_v good_a enough_o but_o who_o do_v that_o which_o the_o heathen_a idolater_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v c._n that_o do_v the_o jewish_a church_n and_o that_o do_v you_o n._n c._n prove_v that_o c._n so_o i_o will_v and_o you_o shall_v have_v scripture_n for_o it_o ☜_o ☜_o the_o jew_n and_o you_o also_o bow_v your_o knee_n or_o body_n to_o god_n and_o the_o heatheus_n bow_v their_o knee_n to_o baal_n and_o body_n to_o rimmon_n 2_o king_n 5.18_o 1_o king_n 19.18_o you_o all_o listen_v up_o your_o eye_n to_o heaven_n when_o you_o worship_n and_o the_o heathen_a lift_v up_o their_o eye_n to_o their_o idol_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o practice_n in_o israel_n who_o imitate_v their_o custom_n ezek._n 18.12_o and_o 33.25_o you_o stretch_v out_o your_o hand_n to_o god_n and_o so_o the_o custom_n be_v to_o do_v to_o a_o strange_a god_n psalm_n 44.20_o the_o heathen_n sit_v down_o at_o their_o feast_n when_o they_o eat_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o their_o god_n 1_o corinth_n 8_o 1●_n exod._n 32.6_o which_o be_v the_o very_a posture_n which_o you_o be_v so_o fond_a of_o when_o you_o come_v to_o seast_z with_o christ_n in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n sacrifice_v for_o we_o i_o will_v add_v more_o but_o that_o it_o will_v be_v tedious_a and_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o be_v good_a man_n use_v that_o every_o day_n well_o which_o bad_a man_n use_v ill_a and_o therefore_o i_o see_v not_o but_o we_o may_v do_v so_o with_o many_o thing_n practise_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v not_o good_a man_n use_v the_o name_n of_o god_n with_o reverence_n which_o wicked_a man_n continual_o blaspheme_v do_v we_o not_o refresh_v ourselves_o with_o meat_n and_o drink_n of_o which_o many_o debauch_a person_n take_v a_o surfeit_n those_o fine_a clothes_n which_o some_o wear_v for_o pride_n do_v not_o other_o wear_v because_o they_o befit_v their_o quality_n and_o to_o come_v near_o our_o business_n those_o prayer_n which_o some_o man_n mumble_v over_o other_o read_z devout_o and_o those_o garment_n which_o some_o may_v use_v as_o holy_a other_o use_v as_o decent_a what_o shall_v ail_v we_o then_o i_o ask_v you_o once_o again_o that_o we_o can_v right_o use_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n abuse_n say_v those_o good_a prayer_n for_o instarce_o in_o english_a which_o they_o say_v in_o latin_a wear_v a_o white_a garment_n without_o any_o ceremony_n to_o consecrate_v it_o which_o they_o hallow_v with_o many_o prayer_n and_o cross_v and_o holy_a water_n nay_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n itself_o upon_o one_o occasion_n only_o once_o after_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o mere_o as_o a_o token_n the_o child_n be_v already_o become_v a_o servant_n of_o the_o crucify_a jesus_n which_o they_o use_v upon_o all_o occasion_n before_o and_o in_o baptism_n
you_o have_v none_o of_o they_o in_o your_o private_a congregation_n where_o you_o may_v do_v what_o you_o listen_v either_o you_o have_v desert_v those_o principle_n or_o else_o your_o covenant_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a you_o think_v bind_v you_o to_o maintain_v these_o choose_v which_o part_n you_o will_v for_o either_o of_o they_o will_v serve_v my_o turn_n n._n c._n i_o never_o trouble_v my_o head_n much_o about_o those_o senior_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o much_o care_n what_o be_v become_v of_o they_o c._n but_o you_o shall_v think_v what_o be_v become_v of_o your_o minister_n principle_n who_o i_o believe_v be_v content_a now_o to_o let_v the_o lay_v elder_n die_v they_o be_v but_o the_o creature_n of_o man_n and_o so_o of_o a_o mortal_a nature_n n._n c._n it_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n if_o they_o do_v and_o never_o rise_v again_o c._n good_n but_o i_o have_v another_o question_n to_o ask_v you_o be_v not_o there_o a_o time_n when_o this_o be_v a_o principle_n among_o your_o minister_n that_o they_o shall_v obey_v the_o order_n of_o the_o magistrate_n under_o who_o they_o live_v if_o they_o be_v not_o sinful_a n._n c._n i_o be_o not_o much_o acquaint_v with_o their_o opinion_n in_o those_o matter_n c._n you_o may_v know_v they_o then_o by_o their_o practice_n which_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v by_o all_o mean_n have_v to_o be_v consistent_a with_o their_o principle_n n._n c._n what_o practice_n c._n i_o think_v there_o be_v order_n in_o the_o late_a time_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v pray_v public_o for_o king_n charles_n and_o they_o obey_v they_o they_o be_v require_v also_o to_o keep_v a_o thanksgiving_n for_o the_o victory_n at_o dunbar_n and_o worcester_n with_o which_o i_o believe_v the_o most_o if_o not_o all_o comply_v nay_o that_o thanksgiving_n be_v repeat_v every_o year_n at_o whitehall_n and_o i_o believe_v cromwell_n find_v some_o among_o you_o that_o will_v not_o deny_v to_o carry_v on_o the_o work_n of_o that_o day_n n._n c._n what_o do_v you_o infer_v from_o hence_o c._n that_o they_o have_v forsake_v their_o principle_n for_o now_o they_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o king_n order_n mark_v what_o i_o say_v they_o will_v obey_v usurper_n because_o they_o have_v a_o power_n for_o the_o time_n be_v and_o now_o they_o disobey_v their_o sovereign_n whole_a power_n they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v just_a and_o who_o command_v thing_n that_o be_v not_o unlawful_a as_o for_o example_n they_o will_v not_o hear_v common-prayer_n at_o least_o many_o of_o they_o do_v not_o which_o they_o can_v if_o they_o listen_v nor_o will_v they_o observe_v a_o holiday_n which_o be_v no_o more_o unlawful_a to_o be_v keep_v one_o will_v think_v than_o one_o of_o those_o thanksgiving_n give_v i_o a_o reason_n for_o instance_n why_o the_o nine_o and_o twenty_o of_o september_n may_v not_o as_o well_o be_v observe_v as_o the_o three_o sometime_o be_v n._n c._n that_o day_n be_v observe_v for_o superstitious_a purpose_n to_o remember_v the_o victory_n of_o michael_n over_o the_o dragon_n c._n suppose_v it_o be_v be_v not_o that_o a_o great_a deal_n better_o than_o to_o remember_v the_o victory_n of_o cromwell_n over_o the_o king_n n._n c._n that_o be_v but_o once_o and_o away_o c._n but_o once_o all_o over_o the_o city_n and_o kingdom_n yet_o every_o year_n at_o whitehall_n but_o why_o be_v not_o that_o lawful_a to_o be_v do_v always_o which_o we_o may_v do_v once_o the_o reason_n continue_v still_o the_o same_o n._n c._n you_o love_v to_o rip_v up_o old_a thing_n which_o have_v better_o be_v forget_v c._n not_o i_o but_o you_o force_v i_o to_o it_o by_o reflect_v upon_o the_o old_a principle_n of_o some_o of_o our_o man_n and_o how_o can_v one_o choose_v upon_o such_o a_o occasion_n but_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o fantasticalness_n of_o your_o man_n conscience_n at_o least_o some_o of_o they_o that_o be_v so_o nice_a and_o squeamish_a in_o some_o fit_n and_o at_o another_o time_n can_v swallow_v any_o thing_n n._n c._n i_o do_v not_o see_v but_o they_o be_v the_o same_o c._n that_o be_v strange_a when_o they_o be_v so_o scrupulous_a now_o and_o be_v so_o little_a scrupulous_a then_o or_o at_o least_o can_v do_v thing_n with_o a_o reluctance_n and_o regret_n and_o perhaps_o some_o fear_n and_o doubt_n in_o their_o mind_n in_o those_o day_n and_o now_o nothing_o will_v serve_v they_o but_o perfect_a satisfaction_n if_o you_o will_v have_v i_o speak_v plain_a and_o show_v you_o the_o difference_n between_o thing_n they_o do_v then_o and_o those_o they_o will_v not_o do_v now_o i_o will_v take_v the_o pain_n n._n c._n save_o yourself_o the_o labour_n i_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o hear_v more_o of_o it_o c._n that_o be_v you_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o see_v how_o they_o have_v leave_v their_o principle_n or_o at_o least_o do_v not_o act_v according_a to_o they_o n._n c._n they_o know_v their_o own_o principle_n better_a than_o you_o c._n will_v they_o will_v let_v we_o know_v something_o of_o they_o that_o so_o we_o may_v have_v a_o reason_n for_o some_o other_o alteration_n we_o see_v in_o they_o n._n c._n what_o be_v they_o c._n do_v you_o never_o hear_v they_o cry_v out_o against_o separation_n and_o forsake_v of_o public_a ordinance_n be_v there_o not_o many_o book_n write_v to_o this_o purpose_n when_o they_o possess_v the_o pulpit_n n._n c._n i_o perceive_v whither_o you_o be_v go_v c._n and_o you_o shall_v not_o stir_v but_o go_v along_o with_o i_o cousider_v i_o beseech_v you_o what_o be_v become_v of_o those_o principle_n or_o how_o much_o be_v their_o present_a practice_n condemn_v by_o they_o do_v they_o not_o keep_v private_a meeting_n every_o week_n and_o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o public_a service_n as_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o be_v they_o not_o thereby_o keep_v from_o church_n themselves_o and_o do_v they_o not_o thereby_o keep_v away_o a_o great_a many_o other_o tell_v i_o good_a neighbour_n what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o down_o right_a separation_n from_o we_o n._n c._n they_o be_v not_o for_o a_o separation_n from_o christ_n ordinance_n but_o from_o you_o c._n we_o be_v christ_n ordinance_n as_o much_o as_o any_o you_o frequent_a for_o we_o pray_v and_o give_v thanks_o to_o god_n in_o his_o name_n and_o we_o do_v this_o according_a to_o his_o appointment_n pray_v only_o for_o such_o thing_n as_o he_o will_v have_v we_o and_o no_o other_o as_o for_o word_n i_o hope_v you_o g●ant_v that_o neither_o you_o nor_o we_o know_v any_o ordain_v by_o he_o but_o the_o lord_n be_v pray●…_n which_o we_o use_v and_o you_o perhaps_o do_v not_o and_o as_o for_o cere●…ies_n i_o know_v those_o very_a man_n now_o separate_v from_o we_o who_o heretofore_o approve_v those_o book_n which_o be_v write_v against_o separation_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o ceremony_n and_o whatsoever_o you_o imagine_v they_o do_v not_o think_v our_o public_a ordinance_n as_o they_o now_o stand_v be_v antichristian_a or_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v present_a at_o they_o therefore_o i_o must_v have_v a_o better_a reason_n for_o their_o separation_n from_o our_o assembly_n or_o else_o you_o must_v confess_v that_o they_o not_o we_o have_v change_v their_o principle_n n._n c._n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o have_v a_o reason_n c._n no_o more_o do_v i._o they_o have_v without_o question_n a_o great_a many_o but_o they_o be_v carnal_a reason_n n._n c._n why_o be_v you_o so_o censorious_a c._n i_o be_o content_a they_o shall_v have_v other_o reason_n but_o i_o speak_v according_a to_o your_o conception_n of_o they_o n._n c._n you_o be_v very_o mysterious_a on_o a_o sudden_a c._n methinks_v the_o matter_n be_v plain_a if_o they_o have_v sound_a reason_n to_o alter_v their_o principle_n than_o we_o have_v do_v if_o they_o have_v not_o what_o reason_n can_v they_o be_v but_o carnal_a one_o which_o alter_v their_o practice_n n._n c._n i_o do_v not_o love_v to_o hear_v you_o talk_v thus_o c._n nor_o do_v i_o love_v to_o hear_v myself_o talk_v thus_o but_o you_o constrain_v i_o to_o it_o and_o i_o pray_v you_o whether_o you_o love_v it_o or_o no_o do_v so_o much_o as_o hear_v i_o one_o word_n more_o n._n c._n you_o may_v speak_v your_o mind_n c._n be_v there_o not_o a_o time_n when_o your_o minister_n will_v by_o no_o mean_n hear_v of_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n do_v they_o not_o cry_v out_o upon_o it_o in_o their_o pulpit_n and_o their_o book_n and_o call_v it_o curse_v toleration_n read_v but_o a_o book_n call_v a_o testimony_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o to_o our_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n subscribe_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o province_n of_o london_n decemb._n 14._o 1647._o there_o you_o will_v find_v
use_n of_o it_o n._n c._n some_o think_v it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a cause_n to_o separate_v in_o that_o there_o be_v such_o sinful_a mixture_n tolerate_v among_o you_o and_o that_o your_o congregation_n be_v miscellaneous_a company_n of_o all_o gather_n and_o all_o sort_n be_v admit_v even_o to_o sacramental_a communion_n c._n that_o be_v the_o very_a objection_n which_o your_o minister_n and_o elder_n see_v frame_v against_o they_o by_o the_o separatist_n and_o what_o they_o answer_v to_o they_o we_o return_v to_o you_o first_o that_o this_o charge_n be_v not_o true_a the_o rule_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v as_o full_a and_o strict_a for_o church-member_n that_o shall_v come_v to_o communion_n as_o that_o of_o the_o assembly_n there_o cite_v pag._n 133._o which_o be_v this_o that_o they_o must_v be_v visible_a sainst_a such_o as_o be_v of_o age_n do_v profess_v faith_n in_o christ_n and_o obedience_n to_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o life_n teach_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n second_o suppose_v there_o be_v some_o sinful_a mixture_n say_v they_o at_o our_o sacrament_n yet_o we_o conceive_v this_o be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o a_o negative_a much_o less_o of_o a_o positive_a separation_n the_o learned_a author_n foremention_v tell_v we_o that_o corruption_n in_o manner_n creep_v into_o a_o church_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o separation_n from_o it_o this_o he_o prove_v from_o math._n 23.2_o 3._o and_o he_o add_v also_o this_o reason_n for_o it_o because_o in_o what_o church_n soever_o there_o be_v purity_n of_o doctrine_n there_o god_n have_v his_o church_n though_o overwhelm_v with_o scandal_n and_o therefore_o whosoever_o separate_v from_o such_o a_o assembly_n separate_v from_o the_o place_n where_o god_n have_v his_o church_n which_o be_v rash_a and_o unwarrantable_a the_o church_n of_o corinth_n have_v such_o a_o profane_a mixture_n at_o their_o sacrament_n as_o we_o believe_v few_o if_o any_o of_o our_o congregation_n can_v be_v charge_v withal_o and_o yet_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o persuade_v the_o godly_a party_n to_o separate_v much_o less_o to_o gather_v a_o church_n out_o of_o a_o church_n n._n c._n what_o do_v you_o tell_v i_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o a_o foreign_a divine_a c._n they_o have_v make_v it_o they_o by_o approve_v what_o he_o say_v in_o their_o book_n and_o beside_o they_o tell_v you_o there_o be_v many_o godly_a and_o learned_a nonconformist_n of_o the_o last_o age_n that_o be_v persuade_v in_o their_o conscience_n they_o can_v not_o hold_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n kneel_v without_o sin_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o separate_v from_o she_o indeed_o in_o that_o particular_a act_n they_o withdraw_v but_o yet_o so_o as_o that_o they_o hold_v communion_n with_o she_o in_o the_o rest_n be_v far_o from_o a_o negative_a much_o more_o from_o a_o positive_a separation_n from_o she_o nay_o some_o of_o they_o mind_n the_o word_n even_o then_o when_o our_o church_n be_v full_a of_o sinful_a mixture_n with_o great_a zeal_n and_o learning_n defend_v they_o so_o far_o as_o to_o write_v against_o those_o that_o do_v separate_v from_o they_o who_o these_o good_a and_o learned_a man_n be_v they_o tell_v you_o in_o the_o margin_n mr._n cartwright_n mr._n dod_n mr._n hildersham_n mr._n bradshaw_n mr._n ball._n n._n c._n then_o we_o shall_v communicate_v with_o man_n in_o their_o sin●_n and_o we_o must_v not_o be_v lead_v to_o that_o by_o the_o great_a example_n c._n to_o prevent_v that_o they_o will_v advise_v you_o that_o if_o any_o brother_n offend_v you_o you_o be_v not_o to_o separate_v from_o he_o for_o this_o be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o gain_v but_o to_o destroy_v his_o soul_n but_o to_o tell_v he_o of_o it_o private_o and_o in_o a_o orderly_a way_n to_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o church_n and_o when_o you_o have_v do_v your_o duty_n you_o have_v free_v your_o soul_n and_o may_v safe_o and_o comfortable_o communicate_v in_o that_o church_n without_o sin_n n._n c._n i_o perceive_v you_o be_v read_v in_o our_o writer_n and_o tre_o you_o have_v now_o tell_v i_o so_o much_o from_o they_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o have_v so_o hard_a a_o opinion_n of_o you_o as_o i_o have_v before_o and_o i_o hope_v this_o will_v preserve_v i_o from_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o sin_n of_o schism_n because_o the_o nature_n of_o that_o consist_v in_o a_o open_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n c._n this_o will_v not_o serve_v your_o turn_n but_o you_o must_v come_v and_o join_v in_o communion_n with_o we_o again_o for_o they_o tell_v you_o that_o as_o he_o who_o deny_v a_o fundamental_a article_n of_o the_o faith_n be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n though_o he_o add_v not_o obstinacy_n thereto_o to_o make_v he_o a_o heretic_n so_o he_o that_o do_v unwarrantable_o separate_v from_o the_o true_a church_n be_v true_o guilty_a of_o schism_n though_o he_o add_v not_o uncharitableness_n thereunto_o to_o denominate_v he_o a_o complete_a schismatic_a you_o may_v read_v the_o word_n if_o you_o will_v pag._n 137._o and_o afterward_o they_o tell_v you_o that_o to_o make_v a_o rupture_n in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o divide_v church_n from_o church_n and_o to_o set_v up_o church_n against_o church_n and_o to_o gather_v church_n out_o of_o true_a church_n and_o because_o we_o differ_v in_o some_o thing_n therefore_o to_o hold_v church-communion_n in_o nothing_o this_o we_o think_v have_v no_o warrant_n out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o will_v introduce_v all_o manner_n of_o confusion_n in_o church_n and_o family_n and_o not_o only_o disturb_v but_o in_o a_o little_a time_n destroy_v the_o power_n of_o godliness_n purity_n of_o religion_n peace_n of_o christian_n and_o set_v open_v a_o wide_a gap_n to_o bring_v in_o atheism_n popery_n heresy_n and_o all_o manner_n of_o wickedness_n thus_o they_o and_o how_o fast_o all_o this_o be_v a_o do_v by_o your_o mean_n who_o now_o will_v have_v no_o communion_n with_o we_o in_o any_o thing_n because_o we_o differ_v in_o some_o thing_n be_v apparent_a to_o all_o the_o world_n for_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o church_n nay_o of_o your_o own_o family_n consider_v of_o it_o in_o time_n and_o repent_v that_o so_o they_o may_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o utter_v confusion_n but_o the_o gap_n may_v be_v stop_v which_o you_o have_v open_v too_o wide_o already_o to_o atheism_n irreligion_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o wickedness_n which_o come_v pour_v in_o itself_o upon_o we_o do_v not_o continue_v that_o separation_n any_o long_o which_o you_o have_v rash_o begin_v lest_o you_o be_v find_v guilty_a of_o that_o very_a thing_n yourselves_o which_o you_o condemn_v so_o much_o in_o other_o and_o profess_v be_v by_o all_o good_a man_n to_o be_v abhor_v read_v what_o i_o have_v now_o say_v over_o and_o over_o again_o and_o serious_o lay_v it_o to_o heart_n lest_o your_o own_o book_n be_v open_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o sentence_n be_v pronounce_v against_o you_o out_o of_o they_o nay_o desire_v your_o minister_n to_o read_v it_o and_o to_o expound_v the_o reason_n to_o you_o why_o they_o shall_v ssparate_a now_o more_o than_o mr._n dod_n mr._n hildersham_n mr._n ball_n and_o such_o like_a do_v heretofore_o entreat_v they_o to_o let_v you_o know_v how_o they_o excuse_v thewselve_n from_o the_o guilt_n not_o only_o of_o withdraw_a themselves_o from_o our_o communion_n which_o they_o call_v negative_a schism_n but_o also_o of_o make_v a_o head_n against_o we_o and_o draw_v themselves_o into_o a_o distinct_a and_o opposite_a body_n and_o set_v up_o a_o church_n against_o a_o church_n which_o they_o call_v positive_a and_o schism_n by_o way_n of_o eminency_n ask_v they_o which_o of_o the_o four_o cause_n of_o separation_n they_o allege_v to_o make_v their_o departure_n from_o we_o necessary_a what_o we_o have_v do_v that_o shall_v make_v it_o unlawful_a for_o they_o to_o communicate_v with_o we_o or_o rather_o how_o we_o have_v separate_v ourselves_o from_o jesus_n christ_n and_o make_v he_o disow_v we_o if_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o give_v you_o very_o good_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o and_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n i_o hope_v you_o see_v what_o you_o be_v to_o do_v according_a to_o their_o own_o advice_n and_o counsel_n n._n c._n i_o suppose_v they_o will_v say_v that_o they_o be_v persecute_v which_o will_v justify_v their_o separation_n c._n i_o can_v imagine_v what_o they_o shall_v pretend_v unless_o it_o be_v this_o but_o bid_v they_o show_v you_o what_o have_v befalen_v they_o that_o shall_v deserve_v that_o name_n and_o likewise_o show_v that_o the_o persecution_n be_v grievous_a nay_o intolerable_a for_o else_o they_o have_v tell_v you_o it_o will_v not_o warrant_v