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A33981 The vindication of liturgies, lately published by Dr. Falkner, proved no vindication of the lawfulness, usefulness, and antiquity of set-forms of publick ministerial prayer to be generally used by, or imposed on all ministers, and consequently an answer to a book, intituled, A reasonable account why some pious nonconformists judge it sinful, for them to perform their ministerial acts in by the prescribed forms of others : wherein with an answer to what Dr. Falkner hath said in the book aforesaid, the original principles are discovered, from whence the different apprehensions of men in this point arise / by the author of the Reasonable account, and Supplement to it. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1681 (1681) Wing C5345; ESTC R37651 143,061 307

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that_o common_a place_n it_o appear_v plain_o that_o melancthon_n do_v think_v all_o minister_n may_v not_o perform_v ordinary_o their_o ministerial_a and_o family_n act_v of_o prayer_n by_o the_o prescribe_a form_n of_o other_o man_n for_o his_o whole_a business_n be_v to_o instruct_v student_n for_o the_o ministry_n in_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o prayer_n the_o part_n and_o method_n of_o it_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o lord_n prayer_n etc._n etc._n he_o first_o determine_v supplication_n and_o thanksgiving_n the_o two_o great_a part_n or_o species_n of_o prayer_n then_o p._n 532_o 533_o he_o go_v on_o show_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o prayer_n of_o christian_n and_o those_o of_o pagan_n jew_n and_o mahumetan_n direct_v the_o first_o to_o distinguish_v themselves_o by_o pray_v in_o the_o name_n and_o mediation_n of_o jesus_n christ_n after_o this_o he_o cast_v his_o discourse_n under_o 5_o head_n of_o all_o which_o he_o discourse_v several_o 1._o in_o order_n to_o a_o due_a compellation_n of_o god_n he_o advise_v a_o premeditation_n what_o god_n be_v who_o christ_n be_v what_o he_o have_v do_v etc._n etc._n 2._o he_o advise_v a_o meditation_n concern_v the_o precept_n enjoin_v prayer_n several_a of_o which_o he_o mention_v 3._o he_o advise_v the_o consideration_n of_o the_o promise_n for_o this_o life_n and_o that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v and_o instance_v in_o many_o p._n 536_o 537._o 4._o he_o show_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o faith_n in_o prayer_n and_o direct_v the_o different_a exercise_n of_o it_o in_o petition_n for_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a and_o eternal_a good_a thing_n 538_o 539_o 540_o 541._o then_o he_o come_v and_o direct_v man_n what_o to_o pray_v for_o other_o and_o how_o 5._o he_o direct_v that_o the_o matter_n of_o prayer_n cogitetur_fw-la ac_fw-la ricitetur_fw-la shall_v not_o only_o be_v indict_v in_o and_o by_o the_o heart_n but_o recite_v by_o the_o lip_n he_o again_o repeat_v the_o matter_n and_o order_n 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