TO THAT QVESTION SO often and so insultingly proposed by our Aduersaries asking vs Where this our Religion was before Luthers time IT is a common question and often propounded by Papists in an insulting manner ouer vs Where our Religion was before Luthers time As though wee could not answere to the demand nor fetch our Religion from any more ancient or better Author but they are deceiued in both And that I may not be tedious in prefacing I answer I. It was and is written and contained in the holy Scriptures the Canonicall Books of the old and new Testament II. The same hath been and is written in the hearts of Gods people such as the Lord from time to time effectually hath called according to euerie mans measure as they haue bin taught it and learned it out of those books of holy Scripture For this must we know that no other doctrine of Christian Religion was or is written in mens hearts by Gods Spirit then that which the same Spirit inspired the Pen-men of the Scriptures to write in those Bookes The necessarie truths of doctrine therein contained as God had promised hath he written in the hearts of his people Ier. 31.33 34. 2. Cor. 3.3 And for these ends that they might know God and know him to be their God and they his people Ier. 31.33 34. that they might make profession thereof and obediently set themselues to the practice of that his blessed will Ezech. 11.19 20. 36.26 27. III. That it was also written in learned mens labours agreeing with those holy Bookes as they found the truth therein taught vnto them by the Prophets and Apostles So as the doctrine of our Religion is no other then that which the Scriptures doe teach the Church and true People of God haue beleeued and professed nor no other then that which is to be found in the writings of y e holy ancient Fathers and of learned men before euer Luther was borne That our Religion was thus before Luthers time I proue by these ensuing reasons I. Argument From holy Scriptures wherein our Religion is written and taught in euery point THat Religion which is in all and euerie point thereof written and prescribed in holy Scriptures the Canonical books of the old and new Testament was before Luthers time For the Scriptures were written many hundred yeeres before Luther was in beeing and the Pen-men thereof had a care to practise the same But this our present Religion in all and euerie point thereof wherein we differ from our Aduersaries is written and prescribed in the holy Scriptures the Canonicall bookes of the old and new Testament as is in euery particular point prooued exactly by those of our side And therefore was it before Luthers time The Minor I thus prooue I. By the publike Records of our Church here at home as the publike authorized Catechisme shorter and larger by the booke of Homilies by the book of Articles and our booke of Common-prayer Out of which wherein soeuer we differ from our Aduersaries nothing is found besides as wanting warrant of Scripture much lesse any thing contrarie thereunto but euery thing grounded vpon and fully agreeing with the same II. By Gods Spirit the Author of the Scriptures which doth further our Religion in the hearts of the people through the reading and interpreting thereof which the Spirit of God would not doe if our Religion were not that which the Scriptures teach For would the Author of the one approue of the other if they were not both one If hee should further a Religion contrarie to the Scripture hee should be contrary to himselfe allowing and making good that in mens hearts by inward operation which he hath disallowed by the Scriptures which are of his diuine inspiration It is euident to all that are read in the Scriptures that they condemne all Heathenish al Heretical and Idolatrous Religion likewise all will-worship all vaine inuentions of men the seruing of God by humane traditions by the precepts and doctrines of men so as if our Religion were any such Gods Spirit would not grace it nor so knit mens harts vnto it nor so effectually worke by it in mens consciences nor so perswade vnto it as he daily doth by the Scriptures If they shall denie that Gods Spirit doth any such thing as we suppose I would faine know of them what other spirit it possibly may be that doth so leade men to esteeme so much the Scriptures doth excite men to the studie of them and to make them the onely rule of doctrine and life to heare belieue rest and delight in them and so to worship God onely as herein he requireth to be worshipped and to reiect whatsoeuer is not warranted by them in euery necessarie point of faith And that onely vpon this perswasion that the Scriptures are Gods word that they are endited by his Spirit and written by his holy Prophets and Apostles If this be not the Spirit of God which doth thus magnifie the holy Scriptures in the heart of euery sound Christian what spirit then is it Certainely it must bee either the Spirit of God or of Man or of the Deuill But neither of these two latter therefore the former I. It is not the spirit of man that can and doth thus worke for first the spirit of man perceiueth not the things of God till Gods Spirit acquaint him with them Secondly they be foolishnesse vnto him Thirdly his wisdome is enmitie with God so as Gods wisdome in diuine mysteries and mans wisdome can neuer agree in one Fourthly the spirit of man sauoureth the things of the flesh and not of the Spirit of God Fifthly his heart is continually euil till he be regenerate Sixthly and lastly it is euidently knowne by too much miserable experience that man loueth not the studie of the Scriptures he cannot delight in them hee cannot away to frame his life after them euery one that hath any sparke of diuine knowledge knoweth this to bee true from his owne naturall corruption both in himselfe and others also Now can any reasonable-minded man thinke that such an auerse spirit as is in man so disaffecting the holy Scriptures and the studie thereof that it can be that Spirit which perswadeth and draweth men contrary to it corrupt selfe to embrace that Religion which is grounded vpon the Scriptures and to presse to the obedience thereof Yea can it bee mans spirit that worketh loue to such a Religion which so opposeth mans corruption as the worldly wise Politician derideth it the pleasurable man hateth it the greedy of gaine cannot abide to bee ruled by it and the haughtie spirit which hunteth after the pride of life hath it in great contempt so as none in very deed but onely such as doe denie themselues doe forsake the world and can bee well contented to take vp their crosse and follow Christ either can or will embrace the same II. It is not the spirit of Satan For although hee
the Scriptures receiue authoritie from the Church and the sense thereof onely subiect vnto her That the Vulgar Latin translation is only to be admitted as authenticall That the Scriptures be imperfect and are not the certaine rule of faith That there are traditions besides for perfecting the Scriptures and to bee receiued with equall authoritie with Scriptures III. Of the Church That the Catholike Church is not the company onely of Gods elect people That the Church of Rome cannot erre IV. Of the Pope Where is Scripture to proue that Peter was at Rome and Bishop there twenty fiue yeeres That he was to be appointed Vicar of Christ That the Pope is the vniuersall Bishop That he onely is Peters successour and Christs Vicar That he cannot erre è Cathedra That he is aboue Councels That hee may depose Kings from their temporall estates and dispose of their Kingdomes That he can dispense with sinnes against the plaine Law of God That he can set soules free out of torments after this life V. Of the Clergie and Ecclesiasticall persons In what place of Scripture is it taught that there be Popes Cardinals and Popish Prelates like Princes That there are now Priests to whom a speciall Office of Priesthood is assigned That there bee seuen degrees thereof That a man is now appointed in the time of the Gospell to offer sacrifices daily for the quicke and the dead That all Churchmen so called are to liue vnmarried That a Monasticall life is the best estate That Ecclesiasticall persons are exempt from secular authority VI. Of the Sacraments Where doth the Scripture teach that Baptisme is to bee administred with Chrisme Oyle Coniuring Salt Spittle That there is such a spirituall kindred betweene the Witnesses and the party baptized as also betwixt the Parents and Children of those Witnesses as it hindreth marriage without a dispensation betwixt one another though there be otherwise no kindred either of affinity or consanguinity That Iesus Christ is bodily and wholly as he is Man borne of the Virgin Mary in the Sacrament the Bread being turned into his Flesh That it is a sacrifice for the quick and the dead That the Cake is to bee reserued and carryed about in pompe and that all are to fall downe to it and worship it That it is to bee administred but in one kind That the Lay people must not take it but gape and eate it That the Priest that saith Masse must haue a shauen Crowne haue his Amice Girdle Aube Manuple Stole Chesible and other pretended holy vestments That he must vse such crossings turning duckings liftings whisperings gapings minglings of wine and water such lickings and other variety of stagelike gestures VII Of Prayer That it must be in Latine That not God onely but Saints may be prayed vnto That the dead are to be prayed for That it is lawfull to pray by number to say the same 150. times and to pray vpon Beades VIII Of Worship What written Word teacheth that Diuine Seruice is to bee said onely in the Latine Tongue That Saints and their Reliques are to be adored That Images and Pictures are to be in Churches for adoration sake and to be Lay-mens bookes IX Of the Virgin Mary That she was borne without sinne That she is the Queene of Heauen the Lady of the World That she is diuinely to be worshipped That shee is to haue her proper seruice and her Aue Maries X. Of the Church or Temple the place of publike worship What Scripture that Belles are to bee baptized That there must bee Altars Veiles Holy-water Holy-ashes Palmes and many such trumperies That children dying without Baptisme are not to be buried in the Church-yard and that there is for their soules a Limbus Infantium XI Of dayes Where doe the Apostles teach that there are such a number of Holy-dayes as be in that Religion That a speciall Holinesse is to be put in the obseruation of dayes That dayes and times are to bee set apart to the worship of Saints XII Of meates Where in Scripture reade they that there is such a difference of meates as the obseruation of such a difference at some times is more holy then at other some times All these differences are humane inuentions without warrant of Scriptures Now let them shew that any of these sorts of Martyrs beleeued and professed these differences if they cannot then the conclusion is good that they were not their Martyrs by these differences but in common still ours as well as theirs III. If these differences be but a very patchery of Heresies Iudaisme and Paganisme then in respect thereof they cannot be their Martyrs for Martyrs suffered for none of these three but in detestation thereof were grieuously persecuted by Iewes Pagans and Heretikes But the anticedent is most true as our learned men haue made it manifest For Heresies Bish Morton Doct. Whitacres Gab. Powel and Doctor Willet For Iudaisme Doctor Raynolds hath sufficiently manifested it and somewhat of Paganisme But for this reade Thom. Moresin Doctor of Physick his whole booke called Papatus printed at Edenburgh and Gab. Powel on the first Chapter to the Romanes For all three see a late published booke called The three Conformities And therefore in respect of these differences being hereticall Iewish and Paganish these Martyrs are none of their Martyrs neither did their sufferings make good any whit this their now present Religion IV. If these differences from our Religion doe offer violence to the three Offices of Christ and make their publike worship in many things blasphemous and idolatrous then in respect of such differences they are not their Martyrs But the antecedent is true Ergo the consequent To proue the antecedent Doctor Fownes hath lately of purpose set forth his Trisagion wherein he hath sufficiently confirmed it out of their publike Missaes Breuiaries Portuses Rosaries Liturgies Psalters Primers and Manuals of prayers to which I referre the Reader for full satisfaction And doe conclude therefore that these blessed Martyrs were none of theirs by vertue of these differences V. If many of these differences of theirs be not only besides Scripture without warrant from thence as before is shewed but also flat against Scripture and against our common tenents agreed vpon betweene vs and them then in respect of these differences they are not their Martyrs For they did not suffer for those things which were against Scripture and the common tenents of Christianity wherein we and our Aduersaries doe agree If they dare affirme this let them giue instances thereof But many of these their differences are against Scripture and against the common tenents of Christianity in which we both agree Which being so these their differences can be no part of Christianity because they be against both the rule and also against the grounds of Christianity Therefore the consequence is true That there are such differences betweene vs I instance for proofe in these ensuing That the Scriptures are
Aduersaries THat Religion which is to be found in the publike records of the Church of Rome and in the writings of learned men therein from the very first foundation of it vnto this day that was before Luthers time This I hope may passe for current But this our present Religion is such a religion and therfore before Luthers time The Minor if they deny is thus confirmed I. There are amongst them the holy Scriptures which they acknowledge to be the Word of God but by those Scriptures may all our Religion be proued and fully confirmed in any thing wherein we differ from our aduersaries And therefore this our Religion is to be found among them II. There is that which is called The Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed which they professe the Articles whereof we hold and therein is contained the summe of our Faith III. There is the Lords Prayer the paterne of all true Prayers according to which onely we teach how to pray aright and thereafter doe frame our prayers IV. There is the Decalogue and ten Commandements which though defectiuely set downe in their Catechismes the second being left out yet are they wholly set downe in their Bibles which ten Commandements are the summe of our morall obedience and of our duties towards God and our neighbours V. They acknowledge the two Sacraments Baptisme and the Lords Supper both which we doe administer VI. There are common tenents of Christianitie which all Christian Churches haue euer held wherein we they doe fully agree VII There is their Seruice Booke wherein though many abominations are to be found yet in other things it iustifieth our Religion and Seruice As may appeare by comparing our Seruice Booke with it out of which ours was for the substance thereof taken Against which they cannot iustly take exception neither are they able to prooue by Gods Word by the ancient Councels and consent of the ancient Fathers any thing Idolatrous Heretical or any way vnlawfull wherein soeuer it differeth from theirs VIII There may also be found their accord in generall termes with vs in those things wherein for the particulars we and they bee at oddes and doe disagree as Master Perkins giueth instance in one and twenty particulars and the like may be done in many other points IX And lastly there is to be found all and euery point of our Religion particularly wherein wee differ from them which either wee affirme or they deny or we denie and they affrme and the same iustified by the writings of the learned amongst them For proofe hereof I referre the Reader to my Lord of Couentrie and Lichfield his Catholike appeale and Catholike Apologie first and second parts to my Lord of Meeth his booke de Chri. Eccles succes statu to Illyricus his Catalog Test Veritatis to Ioh. Ã Munster his Nobilis Discursus to Doct. Feild his fourth booke of the Church who proueth seuen and twenty particulars of our maine differences out of their owne Writers And if the writings of their learned men doe not iustifie our Religion I would know why they doe not suffer such writings to passe without purging For if such things were not for vs and against them they would not put out nor alter nor so indeed corrupt Authors or inhibite them to passe abroad as they doe which one act of theirs sheweth that our differences might bee prooued euen by their owne Writers if they might decide the controuersies betwixt vs and them Thus we see how our Religion is to be found amongst them not onely in the points wherein wee doe agree but euen in all our particular differences in which wee stand out against the preualent faction of that Church which alwaies hath ouer-borne the truth which by others of more sound iudgement in that Church hath been from time to time published and maintained And therefore this our now present Religion was before Luthers time V. Argument From the beginning of our Religion here before Austin the Monke came to this Iland THat Religion which was here in this Iland of Great Britaine before Austin the Monke came into it that was before Luthers time for this Monke came in many hundred of yeeres before Luther was borne But this our present Religion was here in this Iland of Great Britaine before Austin the Monke came into it Therefore was it before Luthers dayes The Minor I thus prooue I. The Christian Religion taught at Ierusalem by the Apostles and other Disciples of Christ was our Religion as by the first Argument is prooued from the Apostles writings But that same Christian Religion was here taught and that either by some Apostle as Simon Zelotes or some Disciple of Christ as Ioseph of Arimathea as some of our side haue prooued fully and our Aduersaries yeeld vs. Now if that which was taught at Ierusalem was ours then must it needs be ours which Simon Zelotes or Ioseph of Arimathea did here teach at the first planting of it being before Austins time for can any say that these brought from Ierusalem hither any other Religion then the Apostles deliuered there II. That same Religion first taught did continue here in succession from the Apostles dayes and was held at Austins comming as our aduersaries the Apologists do proue and doe take this also for an vndoubted truth that the Britaine 's of Wales receiued the faith of Christ by preaching of the Apostles and held that Faith at Austins comming Now the Faith taught by the Apostles being the same with ours as the holy Scriptures beare witnesse against all gaine-sayers it is cleare by the Apologists proofes and their owne acknowledgement of the continuance thereof from the very beginning that this our present Religion was here in this Iland of Great Britaine before Austins comming III. Here were many which suffered Martyrdome in Dioclesians reigne before Austines dayes but it is prooued before in the second Argument that all the Martyrs of Christ were of our Religion And therefore was that our Religion which was here before Austines time IV. Before Austines comming the Church of Christ here was not subiect to the Romish Church for first they kept not their Easter after the Romish fashion but as the Easterne Churches kept it whence our Religion came Now if they had been of the Romanists tutoring the fierie spirit of Victor who attempted to excommunicate the Easterne Churches would haue compelled the Britains to haue kept their Easter as hee did Secondly they administred Baptisme not after the ceremonious fashion of the Romanists Thirdly they refused to doe what Austin required neither would they acknowledge him their Archbishop though sent from Rome by the Bishop there Fourthly both the Britaines Scots and Irish Bishops so vtterly reiected the Romish Bishops as Bishop Daganus denied all communion with them yea and refused to eate bread with them in the same Inne so little regard had they then to the authoritie either of the Romish Church or
perfection or of merit but to beleeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes And in reading the Law truly vnderstood it doth cause a mans conscience euen in the best to acknowledge himselfe guiltie I might here goe thorow many other points which they teach to which from either plaine Scriptures or from the Catechisme or from these considerations thou maist make answere in thine owne defence But yet for all this though thou also hast gotten helpe to stand for thy selfe beware of Seducers run not easily into disputes with them but rather put them ouer to learned men to be answered It is not good for Eue for to fall into conference with the subtill Serpent Be bold vpon these grounds with ordinarie Papists if they will attempt to set vpon thee but consider thy abilitie presume not aboue thy measure continue in Gods Word and the Lord will vphold thee To whose blessed guide and Fatherly protection I commit thee Pray we all continually FINIS 1. Cor. 2.11 1. Cor. 2.14 Rom. 8.7 Verse 5. * Origen vpon Numb Tertul. de resur Carnis Epiphaen de Haeres lib. 1. cap. 23 24 38. Irae li. 1. cap. 23. Tertul. de praescript Aâ—bana orat 2. contra Arianos Ier. 36. 2. Thes 2. In the Popes Bull before the Catechisme of the Councell of Trent a De Eccles pa. 308. b Apol. Catho cap. 66. c Lib. de Antichrist c. 24. d In his second pillar of Pop. e Against Hart. cap. 8. diuis 4. pa. 567.568.569 572. f Ca. 1. vers 25. pa. 200 Lib. de Antichr cap. 6. to cap. 33. Lib. de eccles cont 2. quaest 5. pa. 300. 308. Obiect Answ Obiect Answ De continu statu Ecclesiae See Doct. Hall his peace of Rome In his Symphonia Cathol In his reformed Catholike Cambden in Brit. p 40.157 * Harison before Hollins Chron. Midleton in his Papistomastix pag 202. See the Protestants Apol. vnder Brerelys name Brerely his Appeale Trac 1. Sect. 2. pag. 69. Beda histor lib. 2. cap. 2. Beda lib. 2. ca. 4. Bish Vshers letter pag. 80.81.82.83 Galfridus Monumentisis Centur 6 p. 689. Beda lib. 3. Hist cap. 3.6 Ibi. c. 21.22.24 Bish Vsher in his late Epistle added to Sir Chr. Sybthorps booke Se Archb. Parker his booke de anti Brit. cap. 18. Se Bishop Morton his Catholike Appeale lib. 1. cap. 2. sect 8. pag. 11. Ibidem lib. 1. ca. 12. sec 1.2 See Catol Test veritat pag. 26. to 69. last edition 1608. See the Epist in the booke of the Lawes of the Saxon Kings in the Saxons language Also in Fox Acts and Monum fol. 69. For the authoritie of this Epistle I take it as they approue of it a witnesse good against themselues See for all these in Cat. Test verit lib. 6. p. 558. See for these Bish Mortons Catho Appeal l. 1. c. 2.3.4.4 Doct. Feild of the Church b. 5. cap. 34 Catol Test verit lib. 1. p. 93. See his Epistle before named Ier. 6.14 The Papist cannot make a true Catalogue from Christ of their present Religion What to demand of them and to presse them vnto What are the things which in their Catalogue from Christ they must proue those in the first Age to haue maintained Protestants are of the Catholike Church though no Romanists In Can. 3. de bapt Part. 1. Act. 9. cap 10. q. 8. What sorts are out of the Church Protestants no Heretikes In his booke of equiuocation Part. 1. Art 9. cap. 10. q. 1. Protestants hold no impious opinions condemned for heresie Protestants are not conuicted of obstinacie See the Historie of the Councell of Trent Protestants do not neglect the authority of the Catholike Church Protestants are no Schismatikes Eph. 3.20 Let them answer the books which prooue her the great Whore Babylon and the Pope Antichrist if any denie these things In summa part 2. cap. 39. de Schismate Reuel 18.4 See for these Catal. Test verit pa. 27. to 70. in the last Edition 2. Ch. 11.13 14 Protestants not excommunicate persons How a man must be qualified which wil continue in the truth Prou. 1. 2. Thes 2.10 11 12. Ioh. 7.17 Iam. 1.5 Luk. 11.13 By what helpes to oppose the aduersaries Plaine Scriptures Aug. l. 2. de doct Chr. cap. 6. Chrysost 3. hom in 2. Thes Lib. 4. de verbo Dei non scripto cap. 11. The parts of the Catechisme Nine considerations Obserue two things in the aduersaries dealing with thee Three things beyond ordinarie mens capacitie which they must take heed they be not deceiued by Ordinarie meâ— cannot iudge of Councels and why Not of the allegation of Fathers and why Not of the allegation of the Churches custome and why Against the Popes headship Against his vnerring spirit Against transubstantiation Exod. 4.3 7.10 20 21 24. 8.17 Ioh. 2.9 10. Luke 24.39 The euill of the doctrine of transubstantiation Against Purgatorie Against Images and their worship Against praying to Saints Matth. 6. Against the Romanists condemning all that are not of their Church Against their vrging as necesary to make a Catalogue of our professors in all Ages Against their error of veniall sinnes Against mans power to doe well Against their error of mans abilitie to fulfil the Law