they_o confute_v heretic_n and_o they_o make_v they_o the_o measure_n of_o right_a and_o wrong_n all_o that_o collective_a body_n of_o doctrine_n of_o which_o all_o christian_n consent_o make_v public_a confession_n and_o on_o which_o all_o their_o hope_n of_o salvation_n do_v rely_v be_v all_o contain_v in_o they_o and_o they_o agree_v in_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o plain_o set_v down_o in_o scripture_n and_o all_o this_o be_v so_o certain_a that_o we_o all_o profess_v ourselves_o ready_a to_o believe_v any_o other_o article_n which_o can_v pretend_v and_o prove_v itself_o thus_o prove_v thus_o descend_v for_o we_o know_v a_o doctrine_n be_v neither_o more_o nor_o less_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o be_v write_v or_o unwritten_a that_o be_v but_o accidental_a and_o extrinsical_a to_o it_o for_o it_o be_v first_o unwritten_a and_o then_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v write_v only_o when_o it_o be_v write_v it_o be_v better_o conserve_v and_o sure_a transmit_v and_o not_o easy_o alter_v and_o more_o fit_v to_o be_v a_o rule_n and_o indeed_o only_o can_v be_v so_o not_o but_o that_o every_o word_n of_o god_n be_v as_o much_o a_o rule_n as_o any_o word_n of_o god_n but_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o what_o be_v so_o write_v and_o so_o transmit_v be_v god_n word_n whereas_o concern_v other_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o write_v we_o have_v no_o certain_a record_n no_o evident_a proof_n no_o sufficient_a conviction_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o be_v own_a as_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n or_o life_n because_o we_o do_v not_o know_v it_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n if_o any_o doctrine_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o we_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n be_v prove_v as_o scripture_n be_v we_o receive_v it_o equal_o but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o it_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v according_a to_o the_o degree_n of_o its_o probation_n and_o if_o it_o once_o come_v to_o be_v dispute_v by_o wise_a and_o good_a man_n if_o it_o come_v in_o after_o the_o apostle_n if_o it_o rely_v but_o upon_o a_o few_o testimony_n or_o be_v to_o be_v laborious_o argue_v into_o a_o precarious_a persuasion_n it_o can_v be_v the_o true_a ground_n of_o faith_n and_o salvation_n can_v never_o rely_v upon_o it_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o assumption_n in_o this_o argument_n will_v rely_v upon_o a_o induction_n of_o which_o all_o church_n have_v a_o sufficient_a experience_n there_o be_v in_o no_o church_n any_o one_o instance_n of_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n or_o life_n that_o can_v pretend_v to_o a_o clear_a universal_a tradition_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o first_o and_o of_o all_o age_n and_o church_n but_o only_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o undoubted_a book_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n and_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o good_a life_n the_o case_n be_v evident_a and_o certain_a which_o make_v the_o other_o also_o to_o be_v like_o it_o for_o there_o be_v no_o original_a or_o primary_n commandment_n concern_v good_a life_n but_o it_o be_v plain_o and_o notorious_o find_v in_o scripture_n now_o faith_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o good_a life_n upon_o which_o it_o be_v most_o rational_o and_o permanent_o build_v it_o be_v strange_a that_o scripture_n shall_v be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v we_o all_o the_o whole_a superstructure_n and_o yet_o be_v defective_a in_o the_o foundation_n neither_o do_v we_o doubt_v but_o that_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n speak_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n which_o be_v never_o write_v and_o yet_o those_o few_o only_a that_o be_v write_v be_v by_o the_o divine_a providence_n and_o the_o care_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o the_o first_o and_o all_o descend_a age_n preserve_v to_o we_o and_o make_v our_o gospel_n so_o that_o as_o we_o do_v not_o dispute_v whether_o the_o word_n which_o christ_n speak_v and_o the_o miracle_n he_o do_v and_o be_v not_o write_v be_v as_o holy_a and_o as_o true_a as_o those_o which_o be_v write_v but_o only_o say_v they_o be_v not_o our_o rule_n and_o measure_n because_o they_o be_v unknown_a so_o there_o be_v no_o dispute_n whether_o they_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v or_o rely_v upon_o as_o the_o write_a or_o unwritten_a word_n of_o god_n for_o both_o be_v to_o be_v rely_v upon_o and_o both_o equal_o always_o provide_v that_o they_o be_v equal_o know_v to_o be_v so_o but_o that_o which_o we_o say_v be_v that_o there_o be_v many_o which_o be_v call_v tradition_n which_o be_v not_o the_o unwritten_a word_n of_o god_n at_o least_o not_o know_v so_o to_o be_v and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o man_n be_v pretend_v and_o obtrude_v as_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o a_o few_o man_n be_v make_v to_o support_v a_o weight_n as_o great_a as_o that_o which_o rely_v upon_o universal_a testimony_n and_o particular_a tradition_n be_v equal_v to_o universal_a the_o uncertain_a to_o the_o certain_a and_o tradition_n be_v say_v to_o be_v apostolical_a if_o they_o be_v but_o ancient_a and_o if_o they_o come_v from_o we_o know_v not_o who_o they_o be_v say_v to_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o if_o postnate_a they_o be_v call_v primitive_a and_o they_o be_v argue_v and_o laborious_o dispute_v into_o the_o title_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n by_o not_o only_o fallible_a but_o fallacious_a argument_n as_o will_v appear_v in_o the_o follow_a number_n this_o be_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o therefore_o 1._o it_o prove_v itself_o because_o there_o can_v be_v no_o proof_n to_o the_o contrary_a since_o the_o elder_n the_o tradition_n be_v the_o more_o likely_a it_o can_v be_v prove_v as_o be_v near_o the_o fountain_n and_o not_o have_v have_v a_o long_a current_n which_o as_o a_o long_a line_n be_v always_o the_o weak_a so_o in_o long_a descent_n be_v most_o likely_a to_o be_v corrupt_v and_o therefore_o a_o late_a tradition_n be_v one_o of_o the_o worst_a argument_n in_o the_o world_n it_o follow_v that_o nothing_o can_v now_o because_o nothing_o of_o faith_n yet_o have_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v 2._o but_o beside_o this_o consideration_n the_o scripture_n itself_o be_v the_o best_a testimony_n of_o its_o own_o fullness_n and_o sufficiency_n i_o have_v already_o in_o the_o introduction_n against_o i._n s._n prove_v from_o scripture_n that_o all_o necessary_a thing_n of_o salvation_n be_v there_o abundant_o contain_v that_o be_v i_o have_v prove_v that_o scripture_n say_v so_o neither_o ought_v it_o to_o be_v reply_v here_o that_o no_o man_n testimony_n concern_v himself_o be_v to_o be_v accept_v for_o here_o we_o suppose_v that_o we_o be_v agree_v that_o the_o scripture_n say_v true_a that_o it_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o can_v be_v deceive_v and_o if_o this_o be_v allow_v the_o scripture_n then_o can_v give_v testimony_n concern_v itself_o and_o so_o can_v any_o man_n if_o you_o allow_v he_o to_o be_v infallible_a and_o all_o that_o he_o say_v to_o be_v true_a which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o scripture_n in_o the_o present_a controversy_n and_o if_o you_o will_v not_o allow_v scripture_n to_o give_v testimony_n to_o itself_o who_o shall_v give_v testimony_n to_o it_o shall_v the_o church_n or_o the_o pope_n suppose_v which_o we_o will_v but_o who_o shall_v give_v testimony_n to_o they_o shall_v they_o give_v credit_n to_o scripture_n before_o it_o be_v know_v how_o they_o come_v themselves_o to_o be_v credible_a if_o they_o be_v not_o credible_a of_o themselves_o we_o be_v not_o the_o near_a for_o their_o give_v their_o testimony_n to_o the_o scripture_n but_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v of_o itself_o credible_a upon_o its_o own_o authority_n this_o must_v be_v prove_v before_o it_o can_v be_v admit_v and_o then_o how_o shall_v this_o be_v prove_v and_o at_o least_o the_o scripture_n will_v be_v pretend_v to_o be_v of_o itself_o credible_a as_o the_o church_n and_o since_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o all_o the_o dignity_n power_n authority_n office_n and_o sanctity_n it_o have_v or_o pretend_v to_o have_v can_v no_o other_o way_n be_v prove_v but_o by_o the_o scripture_n a_o conformity_n to_o they_o in_o all_o doctrine_n law_n and_o manner_n be_v the_o only_a charter_n by_o which_o she_o claim_v it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o scripture_n have_v the_o prior_n right_a and_o can_v better_o be_v primely_a credible_a than_o the_o church_n or_o any_o thing_n else_o that_o claim_v from_o scripture_n nay_o therefore_o quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la it_o be_v to_o be_v allow_v to_o be_v primely_a credible_a because_o there_o be_v no_o creature_n beside_o it_o that_o be_v so_o indeed_o god_n be_v please_v to_o find_v out_o way_n to_o prove_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v his_o word_n his_o immediate_a word_n by_o miraculous_a consignation_n and_o
the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o dissuasive_a from_z popery_n in_o vindication_n of_o the_o first_o part_n and_o further_a reproof_n and_o conviction_n of_o the_o roman_a error_n by_o jer._n taylor_n chaplain_n in_o ordinary_a to_o king_n charles_n the_o first_o and_o late_a lord_n bishop_n of_o downe_n and_o conner_n curavimus_fw-la babylonem_fw-la &_o non_fw-la est_fw-la sanata_fw-la london_n print_v for_o r._n royston_n bookseller_n to_o the_o king_n most_o excellent_a majesty_n at_o the_o angel_n in_o s._n bartholomew_n hospital_n mdclxvii_o diev_n et_fw-fr mon_fw-fr droit_n soit_fw-fr ·_o qvi_fw-fr ·_o mal_fw-fr ·_o y_o ·_o peââââ_n a_o table_n of_o the_o section_n the_o introduction_n in_o answer_n to_o j._n s._n the_o first_o book_n contain_v eleven_o section_n section_n i._n of_o the_o church_n show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n rely_v upon_o no_o certain_a foundation_n for_o their_o faith_n page_n 1_o sect._n ii_o of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n to_o salvation_n 63_o sect._n iii_o of_o tradition_n 102_o sect._n iu._n that_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v believe_v which_o the_o apostolical_a church_n do_v not_o believe_v 144_o sect._n v._n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pretend_v to_o a_o power_n of_o introduce_v into_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o church_n new_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o endeavour_n to_o alter_v and_o suppress_v the_o old_a catholic_n doctrine_n 171_o sect._n vi_o of_o the_o expurgatory_n indices_fw-la in_o the_o roman_a church_n 192_o sect._n vii_o the_o uncharitableness_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o her_o judge_v of_o other_o 205_o sect._n viii_o the_o insecurity_n of_o the_o roman_a religion_n 222_o sect._n ix_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v teach_v for_o doctrine_n the_o commandment_n of_o man_n 236_o sect._n x._o of_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n 239_o sect._n xi_o of_o the_o impose_v anricular_a confession_n upon_o conscience_n without_o authority_n from_o god_n 249_o the_o second_o book_n contain_v seven_o section_n section_n i._n of_o indulgence_n page_n 1_o sect._n ii_o of_o purgatory_n 13_o sect._n iii_o of_o transubstantiation_n 56_o sect._n iu_o of_o the_o half_a communion_n 86_o sect._n v._n of_o service_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 98_o sect._n vi_o of_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n 106_o sect._n vii_o of_o picture_v god_n the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a trinity_n 145_o imprimatur_fw-la tho._n tomkins_n r._n r_o mo_z in_o christo_fw-la patri_fw-la ac_fw-la domino_fw-la dno_fw-la gilberto_n divinâ_fw-la providentià _fw-la archiepiscopo_a cantuariensi_fw-la à _fw-la sacris_fw-la domesticis_fw-la junii_fw-la 29_o 0_o 1667._o exit_fw-la aedibus_fw-la lambethanis_n the_o introduction_n be_v a_o answer_n to_o the_o four_o appendix_n to_o j._n s._n his_o sure_a foot_n intend_v against_o the_o general_n way_n of_o procedure_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a from_o popery_n when_o our_o bless_a saviour_n be_v cast_v out_o the_o evil_a spirit_n from_o the_o poor_a daemoniac_a in_o the_o gospel_n he_o ask_v his_o name_n and_o he_o answer_v my_o name_n be_v legion_n for_o we_o be_v many_o legion_n be_v a_o roman_a word_n and_o signify_v a_o army_n as_o roman_z signify_v catholic_a that_o be_v a_o great_a body_n of_o man_n which_o though_o in_o true_a speak_n they_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o a_o imperial_a army_n yet_o when_o they_o march_v alone_o they_o can_v do_v mischief_n enough_o and_o call_v themselves_o a_o army_n royal._n a_o squadron_n of_o this_o legion_n have_v attempt_v to_o break_v a_o little_a fort_n or_o outwork_n of_o i_o they_o come_v in_o the_o dark_a their_o name_n conceal_v their_o quality_n unknown_a whether_o clergy_n or_o laity_n not_o to_o i_o discover_v only_o there_o be_v one_o pert_a man_n among_o they_o one_o that_o be_v discover_v by_o his_o sure_a foot_n the_o other_o i_o know_v not_o but_o this_o man_n be_v a_o man_n famous_a in_o the_o new_a science_n of_o controversy_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v it_o i_o mean_v in_o the_o most_o beauteous_a and_o amiable_a part_n of_o it_o rail_v and_o calumny_n the_o man_n i_o mean_v be_v the_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d the_o confident_a the_o man_n of_o principle_n and_o the_o son_n of_o demonstration_n h._n dr._n h._n h._n and_o though_o he_o have_v so_o revile_v a_o great_a champion_n in_o the_o army_n of_o the_o live_a god_n that_o it_o be_v reasonable_a to_o think_v he_o have_v cast_v forth_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d all_o the_o fiery_a dart_n of_o the_o wicked_a one_o yet_o i_o find_v that_o a_o evil_a fountain_n be_v not_o soon_o draw_v dry_a and_o he_o have_v indignation_n enough_o and_o revile_v leave_v for_o other_o among_o who_o i_o have_v the_o honour_n not_o to_o be_v the_o least_o sufferer_n and_o sharer_n in_o the_o persecution_n he_o think_v not_o fit_a to_o take_v any_o further_a notice_n of_o i_o but_o in_o a_o appendix_n foot_n the_o four_o appendix_n to_o sure_a foot_n the_o viper_n be_v but_o little_a but_o it_o be_v a_o viper_n still_o though_o it_o have_v more_o tongue_n than_o tooth_n i_o be_o the_o more_o willing_a to_o quit_v myself_o of_o it_o by_o way_n of_o introduction_n because_o he_o intend_v it_o as_o a_o organum_fw-la catholicum_fw-la against_o the_o general_n way_n of_o the_o procedure_n which_o i_o have_v use_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a and_o therefore_o i_o suppose_v the_o remove_n this_o may_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d make_v my_o way_n smooth_a in_o the_o follow_a discourse_n i_o will_v take_v no_o other_o notice_n of_o his_o evil_a language_n his_o scorn_n and_o reproach_n his_o undervalue_a and_o slight_v the_o person_n and_o book_n of_o the_o dissuader_n as_o he_o be_v please_v sometime_o to_o call_v i_o but_o i_o shall_v answer_v to_o these_o thing_n as_o s._n bernard_n do_v to_o the_o temptation_n of_o the_o devil_n endeavour_v to_o hinder_v his_o preach_n by_o tempt_v to_o vanity_n i_o neither_o begin_v for_o you_o nor_o for_o you_o will_v i_o make_v a_o end_n but_o i_o shall_v look_v on_o those_o rhetorical_a flower_n of_o his_o own_o but_o as_o a_o fermentum_fw-la his_o spirit_n be_v trouble_v and_o he_o breathe_v forth_o the_o froth_n as_o of_o a_o enrage_a sea_n and_o when_o he_o have_v do_v it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v be_v quiet_a if_o not_o let_v he_o know_v god_n will_v observe_v that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v and_o require_v that_o which_o be_v past_a but_o i_o will_v search_v and_o see_v what_o i_o can_v find_v of_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v and_o give_v such_o account_n of_o they_o as_o be_v necessary_a and_o may_v be_v useful_a for_o the_o defence_n of_o my_o book_n and_o the_o justification_n of_o myself_o against_o all_o rude_a charge_n and_o after_o i_o have_v do_v so_o i_o shall_v proceed_v to_o other_o thing_n which_o i_o shall_v esteem_v more_o useful_a the_o first_o thing_n i_o shall_v take_v notice_n of_o be_v his_o scornful_a and_o slight_a speak_v of_o scripture_n affirm_v that_o he_o be_v soon_o beat_v at_o this_o weapon_n that_o it_o be_v sampsons_n hair_n it_o be_v the_o weak_a part_n in_o the_o man_n and_o yet_o if_o it_o be_v the_o weak_a it_o be_v that_o which_o s._n paul_n call_v the_o weakness_n and_o foolishness_n of_o preach_v more_o strong_a and_o more_o wise_a than_o all_o the_o wisdom_n of_o man_n when_o the_o devil_n tempt_v our_o bless_a saviour_n he_o use_v scripture_n but_o christ_n do_v not_o reprove_v his_o way_n of_o argue_v but_o in_o the_o same_o way_n discover_v his_o fraud_n scriptum_n est_fw-la say_v the_o tempter_n yea_o but_o scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la say_fw-la christ_n to_o other_o purpose_n than_o you_o intend_v and_o so_o will_v i._o s._n have_v proceed_v if_o he_o have_v be_v at_o all_o in_o love_n with_o the_o way_n but_o he_o think_v he_o have_v a_o better_a and_o the_o wonder_n be_v the_o less_o that_o the_o gentleman_n do_v not_o love_v the_o scripture_n or_o at_o least_o give_v too_o much_o suspicion_n that_o he_o do_v not_o for_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o prove_v himself_o by_o his_o writing_n to_o be_v so_o good_a a_o christian_a as_o to_o love_v his_o enemy_n or_o his_o reprover_n but_o however_o he_o be_v please_v to_o put_v a_o scorn_n on_o scripture_n expression_n it_o be_v much_o better_a if_o he_o and_o his_o church_n too_o will_v use_v they_o more_o and_o express_v their_o article_n they_o contend_v for_o and_o impose_v they_o on_o the_o christian_a world_n in_o the_o word_n and_o expression_n of_o scripture_n which_o we_o be_v sure_o express_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n with_o more_o truth_n and_o simplicity_n than_o be_v do_v by_o their_o word_n of_o art_n and_o expression_n of_o the_o school_n if_o this_o have_v be_v observe_v christendom_n at_o this_o day_n have_v have_v few_o controversy_n and_o more_o truth_n and_o more_o charity_n we_o shall_v not_o
remain_a miracle_n and_o entail_v of_o infallibility_n in_o the_o church_n to_o go_v on_o in_o the_o delivery_n of_o this_o for_o by_o that_o time_n that_o all_o the_o apostle_n be_v dead_a and_o the_o infallible_a spirit_n be_v depart_v the_o scripture_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v believe_v in_o all_o the_o world_n and_o then_o it_o be_v not_o ordinary_o possible_a ever_o any_o more_o to_o detract_v faith_n from_o that_o book_n and_o then_o for_o the_o transmit_v this_o book_n to_o after_o age_n the_o divine_a providence_n need_v no_o other_o course_n but_o the_o ordinaary_a way_n of_o man_n that_o be_v right_a reason_n common_a faithfulness_n the_o interest_n of_o soul_n believe_v a_o good_a thing_n which_o there_o be_v and_o can_v be_v no_o cause_n to_o disbelieve_v and_o a_o universal_a consent_n of_o all_o man_n that_o be_v any_o way_n concern_v for_o it_o or_o against_o it_o and_o this_o not_o only_o preach_v upon_o the_o house_n top_n but_o set_v down_o also_o in_o very_a many_o writing_n this_o actual_o be_v the_o way_n of_o transmit_v this_o book_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o it_o to_o after_o age_n respective_o these_o thing_n be_v of_o themselves_o evident_a yet_o because_o i._o s._n still_o demand_v we_o shall_v set_v down_o some_o first_o and_o self_n evident_a principle_n on_o which_o to_o find_v the_o whole_a procedure_n i_o shall_v once_o more_o satisfy_v he_o and_o this_o be_v a_o first_o and_o self_n evident_a principle_n whatsoever_o can_v be_v speak_v can_v be_v write_v and_o if_o it_o he_o plain_o speak_v it_o may_v be_v as_o plain_v write_v i_o hope_v i_o need_v not_o go_v about_o to_o demonstrate_v this_o for_o it_o be_v of_o itself_o evident_a that_o god_n can_v write_v all_o that_o he_o be_v please_v to_o speak_v and_o all_o good_a scribe_n can_v set_v down_o in_o write_v whatsoever_o another_o tell_v they_o and_o in_o his_o very_a word_n too_o if_o he_o please_v he_o can_v as_o well_o transcribe_v a_o word_n speak_v as_o a_o word_n write_v and_o upon_o this_o principle_n it_o be_v that_o the_o protestant_n believe_v that_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n can_v be_v as_o easy_o understand_v after_o they_o be_v write_v in_o a_o book_n as_o when_o they_o be_v speak_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o first_o christian_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n do_v write_v the_o life_n of_o christ_n his_o doctrine_n the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n as_o plain_a as_o they_o do_v speak_v they_o at_o least_o as_o plain_a as_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o end_n for_o which_o they_o be_v write_v which_o be_v the_o salvation_n of_o our_o soul_n and_o what_o necessity_n now_o can_v there_o be_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o perpetual_a miracle_n still_o current_a in_o the_o church_n and_o a_o spirit_n of_o infallibility_n descendant_n to_o remember_v the_o church_n of_o all_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v at_o once_o set_v down_o in_o a_o book_n the_o truth_n and_o authority_n of_o which_o be_v at_o first_o prove_v by_o infallible_a testimony_n the_o memory_n and_o certainty_n of_o which_o be_v preserve_v among_o christian_n by_o many_o unquestionable_a record_n and_o testimony_n of_o several_a nature_n 2._o as_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n that_o a_o infallible_a oral_a tradition_n shall_v do_v any_o more_o but_o consign_v the_o book_n of_o scripture_n so_o it_o can_v not_o do_v any_o more_o without_o a_o continual_a miracle_n that_o there_o be_v not_o continue_v miracle_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v by_o prove_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a it_o shall_v for_o that_o also_o be_v another_o first_o and_o self-evident_a principle_n that_o the_o all_o wise_a god_n do_v not_o do_v any_o thing_n much_o less_o such_o thing_n as_o miracle_n to_o no_o purpose_n and_o for_o no_o need_n but_o now_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o continue_a miracle_n then_o oral_a tradition_n be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v trust_v in_o relate_v the_o particular_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n for_o if_o in_o a_o succession_n of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n from_o s._n peter_n down_o to_o p._n alexander_n the_o seven_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o any_o man_n to_o be_v assure_v that_o there_o be_v no_o nullity_n in_o the_o ordination_n but_o insensible_o there_o may_v intervene_v something_o to_o make_v a_o breach_n in_o the_o long_a line_n which_o must_v in_o that_o case_n be_v make_v up_o as_o well_o as_o they_o can_v by_o tie_v a_o knot_n on_o it_o it_o will_v be_v infinite_o more_o hard_a to_o suppose_v but_o that_o in_o the_o series_n and_o successive_a talk_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n there_o must_v needs_o be_v infinite_a variety_n and_o many_o thing_n tell_v otherwise_o and_o something_n speak_v with_o evil_a purpose_n by_o such_o as_o preach_v christ_n out_o of_o envy_n and_o many_o odd_a thing_n say_v and_o doctrine_n strange_o represent_v by_o such_o as_o creep_v into_o house_n and_o lead_v captive_a silly_a woman_n it_o may_v be_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n do_v preach_v right_a doctrine_n for_o divers_a age_n but_o yet_o in_o jerusalem_n where_o fifteen_o bishop_n in_o succession_n be_v circumcise_a who_o can_v tell_v how_o many_o thing_n may_v be_v speak_v in_o justification_n of_o that_o practice_n which_o may_v secret_o undervalue_v the_o apostolical_a doctrine_n and_o where_o be_v the_o oral_a tradition_n then_o of_o this_o proposition_n if_o you_o be_v circumcise_a christ_n shall_v profit_v you_o nothing_o but_o however_o though_o the_o bishop_n do_v preach_v all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n yet_o these_o sermon_n be_v tell_v to_o they_o that_o be_v absent_a by_o other_o who_o it_o may_v be_v may_v mistake_v something_o and_o understand_v they_o to_o other_o sense_n than_o be_v intend_v and_o though_o infallibility_n of_o testify_v may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o the_o chief_a ruler_n of_o it_o for_o i_o hope_v i._n s._n do_v not_o suppose_v it_o subject_v in_o every_o single_a christian_a man_n or_o woman_n yet_o when_o this_o testimony_n of_o they_o be_v carry_v abroad_o the_o reporter_n be_v not_o always_o infallible_a and_o let_v it_o be_v consider_v that_o even_o now_o since_o christianity_n have_v be_v transmit_v so_o many_o age_n and_o there_o be_v so_o many_o thousand_o that_o teach_v it_o yet_o how_o many_o hundred_o of_o these_o thousand_o understand_v but_o very_o little_a of_o it_o and_o therefore_o tell_v it_o to_o other_o but_o pitiful_o and_o imperfect_o so_o that_o if_o god_n in_o his_o goodness_n have_v not_o preserve_v to_o we_o the_o sure_a word_n of_o the_o prophetical_a and_o evangelical_n scripture_n christianity_n will_v by_o this_o time_n have_v be_v a_o most_o strange_a thing_n litera_fw-la scripta_fw-la manet_fw-la as_o to_o the_o apostle_n while_o they_o live_v it_o be_v so_o easy_a to_o have_v recourse_n that_o error_n dare_v not_o appear_v with_o a_o open_a face_n but_o the_o cure_n be_v at_o hand_n so_o have_v the_o apostle_n when_o they_o take_v care_n to_o leave_v something_o leave_v to_o the_o church_n to_o put_v they_o in_o mind_n of_o the_o precious_a doctrine_n they_o put_v a_o sure_a standard_n and_o fix_v a_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n to_o which_o all_o doubt_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o trial_n and_o against_o which_o all_o heresy_n may_v be_v dash_v in_o piece_n but_o we_o have_v live_v to_o see_v the_o apostolical_a church_n rend_v from_o one_o another_o and_o teach_v contrary_a thing_n and_o pretend_v contrary_a tradition_n and_o abound_v in_o several_a sense_n and_o excommunicate_v one_o another_o and_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o example_n that_o we_o shall_v see_v the_o greek_n go_v any_o whither_o but_o to_o their_o own_o superior_a and_o their_o own_o church_n to_o be_v teach_v christian_a religion_n and_o the_o latin_n do_v always_o go_v to_o their_o own_o patriarch_n and_o to_o their_o own_o bishop_n and_o church_n and_o it_o be_v not_o likely_a it_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o now_o than_o it_o have_v be_v hitherto_o that_o be_v that_o they_o follow_v the_o religion_n that_o be_v teach_v they_o there_o and_o the_o tradition_n that_o be_v deliver_v by_o their_o immediate_a superior_n now_o there_o be_v so_o vast_a a_o difference_n not_o only_o in_o the_o great_a church_n but_o in_o several_a age_n and_o in_o several_a diocese_n and_o in_o single_a priest_n every_o one_o understanding_n as_o he_o can_v and_o speak_v as_o he_o please_v and_o remember_v as_o he_o may_v and_o express_v it_o according_o and_o the_o people_n also_o understand_v it_o by_o half_n and_o tell_v it_o to_o their_o child_n sometime_o ill_o sometime_o not_o at_o all_o and_o seldom_o as_o they_o shall_v and_o they_o who_o be_v teach_v neglect_v it_o too_o gross_o and_o attend_v to_o it_o very_o careless_o and_o forget_v it_o too_o quick_o and_o which_o be_v worse_o yet_o man_n expound_v it_o according_a to_o
the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n thousand_o of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o very_a boy_n see_v the_o picture_n of_o s._n austin_n sell_v in_o fair_n and_o market_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o so_o wise_a as_o to_o know_v the_o notion_n or_o nature_n of_o the_o church_n and_o indeed_o many_o wise_a people_n both_o among_o they_o and_o we_o will_v be_v very_o much_o to_o seek_v in_o the_o definition_n when_o your_o learned_a man_n among_o yourselves_o dispute_v what_o that_o nature_n or_o definition_n be_v but_o it_o may_v be_v though_o i._o s._n put_v father_n and_o council_n into_o the_o same_o proposition_n yet_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o council_n only_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o existence_n of_o council_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v have_v without_o the_o notion_n or_o definition_n of_o church_n and_o this_o be_v as_o false_a as_o the_o other_o for_o what_o tradesman_n in_o germany_n italy_n france_n or_o spain_n be_v not_o well_o enough_o assure_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o yet_o to_o the_o know_v of_o this_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v tell_v how_o church_n be_v to_o be_v define_v indeed_o they_o can_v not_o know_v what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v church-council_n unless_o they_o know_v as_o much_o of_o church_n as_o they_o do_v of_o council_n but_o what_o think_v we_o can_v not_o man_n know_v there_o be_v a_o council_n at_o ariminum_n more_o numerous_a than_o that_o at_o nice_n unless_o they_o have_v the_o notion_n of_o church_n certain_o the_o church_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o definition_n of_o that_o council_n nor_o do_v it_o relate_v save_v only_o as_o enemy_n be_v relative_n to_o each_o other_o and_o if_o they_o be_v yet_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o say_v they_o be_v part_n of_o each_o other_o definition_n but_o it_o may_v be_v i._o s._n mean_v this_o say_n of_o good_a and_o catholic_a council_n yet_o they_o also_o may_v be_v know_v to_o have_v be_v without_o skill_n in_o definition_n definition_n do_v not_o tell_v a_o sit_v but_o quid_fw-la sit_fw-la the_o first_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v before_o any_o definition_n be_v to_o be_v inquire_v after_o well!_o but_o how_o shall_v the_o be_v or_o nature_n of_o church_n be_v know_v that_o be_v his_o second_o proposition_n and_o tell_v we_o a_o pretty_a thing_n nor_o be_v the_o be_v or_o nature_n of_o church_n know_v till_o it_o be_v certain_o know_v who_o be_v faithful_a or_o have_v true_a faith_n who_o not_o which_o must_v be_v manifest_v by_o their_o have_v or_o not_o have_v the_o true_a rule_n of_o faith_n why_o but_o do_v the_o have_v the_o true_a rule_n of_o faith_n make_v a_o man_n faithful_a can_v a_o man_n have_v the_o true_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o forsake_v it_o or_o not_o make_v use_n of_o it_o or_o hide_v the_o truth_n in_o unrighteousness_n do_v the_o have_v the_o best_a antidote_n in_o the_o world_n make_v a_o man_n healthful_a though_o he_o live_v disorderly_a and_o make_v no_o use_n of_o it_o but_o to_o let_v that_o pass_v among_o the_o other_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d that_o which_o be_v more_o remarkable_a be_v that_o the_o be_v or_o nature_n of_o church_n be_v not_o know_v till_o it_o be_v certain_o know_v who_o be_v faithful_a or_o have_v true_a faith_n i_o have_v think_v that_o the_o way_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n of_o pronounce_v man_n faithful_a or_o to_o have_v true_a faith_n have_v be_v their_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o adhere_n to_o the_o church_n who_o be_v and_o truth_n they_o must_v therefore_o be_v presuppose_v to_o believe_v have_v be_v the_o only_a way_n of_o pronounce_v they_o faithful_a which_o i_o suppose_v so_o certain_a among_o they_o that_o though_o they_o have_v no_o faith_n at_o all_o but_o to_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v have_v be_v a_o sufficient_a declaration_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o ignorant_a man_n but_o it_o seem_v the_o table_n be_v turn_v it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o go_v to_o the_o church_n but_o first_o they_o must_v be_v assure_v that_o they_o be_v faithful_a and_o have_v true_a faith_n before_o they_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o the_o church_n but_o if_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v the_o only_a rule_n of_o faith_n as_o i._n s._n will_v fain_o make_v we_o believe_v than_o it_o have_v be_v true_a say_v a_o man_n can_v not_o know_v the_o be_v or_o nature_n of_o faith_n till_o he_o be_v well_o acquaint_v with_o the_o church_n and_o must_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v try_v by_o the_o church_n and_o must_v the_o church_n be_v try_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n the_o measure_n and_o touchstone_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o must_v we_o have_v the_o faith_n before_o we_o have_v any_o knowledge_n whether_o there_o be_v a_o church_n or_o no_o be_v they_o both_o first_o and_o both_o prove_v one_o another_o and_o be_v there_o here_o no_o circle_n but_o however_o i_o be_o glad_a that_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n have_v bring_v this_o gentleman_n to_o acknowledge_v that_o our_o way_n be_v the_o better_a way_n and_o that_o we_o must_v first_o choose_v our_o religion_n and_o then_o our_o church_n and_o not_o first_o choose_v our_o church_n and_o then_o blind_o follow_v the_o religion_n of_o it_o whatsoever_o it_o be_v but_o then_o also_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o i._o s._n have_v destroy_v his_o main_a hypothesis_n and_o the_o oral_a tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v not_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n for_o that_o must_v first_o be_v know_v before_o we_o can_v know_v whether_o there_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o the_o church_n or_o no_o who_o rule_n that_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v and_o now_o follow_v his_o conclusion_n which_o be_v nought_o upon_o other_o account_n wherefore_o say_v he_o since_o the_o property_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n do_v all_o agree_v to_o tradition_n our_o rule_n and_o none_o of_o they_o to_o they_o it_o follow_v the_o protestant_n or_o renouncer_n of_o tradition_n know_v not_o what_o be_v either_o right_a scripture_n father_n or_o council_n and_o so_o ought_v not_o to_o meddle_v with_o either_o of_o they_o to_o this_o i_o have_v already_o answer_v and_o what_o i._o s._n may_v do_v hereafter_o when_o he_o happen_v to_o fall_v into_o another_o fit_n of_o demonstration_n i_o know_v not_o but_o as_o yet_o he_o have_v be_v very_o far_o from_o do_v what_o he_o say_v he_o have_v do_v that_o be_v evident_o prove_v what_o he_o undertake_v in_o this_o question_n and_o i_o suppose_v i_o have_v in_o a_o follow_a section_n of_o this_o book_n evident_o prove_v that_o tradition_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n use_v in_o this_o inquiry_n lead_v into_o error_n or_o may_v do_v as_o often_o as_o into_o truth_n and_o therefore_o though_o we_o may_v and_o do_v use_v tradition_n as_o a_o probable_a argument_n in_o many_o thing_n and_o some_o as_o certain_a in_o one_o or_o two_o thing_n to_o which_o in_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n it_o be_v apt_a to_o minister_v yet_o it_o be_v infinite_o far_o from_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n the_o whole_a christian_a faith_n but_o i_o wonder_v why_o i._o s._n say_v that_o for_o want_n of_o tradition_n we_o can_v know_v either_o right_a scripture_n father_n or_o council_n i_o do_v not_o think_v that_o by_o tradition_n they_o do_v know_v all_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n do_v they_o know_v by_o universal_a or_o apostolical_a tradition_n that_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n be_v canonical_a scripture_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o tradition_n for_o it_o for_o above_o four_o hundred_o year_n and_o they_o receive_v it_o at_o last_o from_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o then_o they_o not_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o great_a conserver_n of_o tradition_n and_o they_o will_v get_v nothing_o by_o that_o and_o what_o universal_a tradition_n can_v they_o pretend_v for_o those_o book_n which_o be_v reject_v by_o some_o council_n as_o particular_o that_o of_o laodicea_n which_o be_v in_o the_o code_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o some_o of_o the_o father_n which_o yet_o they_o now_o receive_v certain_o in_o that_o age_n which_o reject_v they_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_a tradition_n for_o they_o and_o those_o father_n which_o as_o i._o s._n express_v it_o be_v eminent_a witness_n to_o their_o immediate_a posterity_n or_o child_n of_o the_o church_n doctrine_n receive_v in_o all_o likelihood_n do_v teach_v their_o posterity_n what_o themselves_o profess_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v possible_a the_o father_n in_o that_o council_n and_o some_o other_o of_o the_o same_o sentiment_n may_v join_v in_o say_v something_o which_o may_v deceive_v their_o
posterity_n and_o consequent_o the_o very_a ground_n of_o i._n s._n his_o demonstration_n be_v dig_v up_o for_o it_o be_v very_o possible_a the_o father_n may_v teach_v something_o that_o contradict_v the_o present_a oral_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n because_o when_o they_o be_v alive_a they_o believe_v the_o contradictory_n but_o further_a yet_o can_v i_o s._n affirm_v that_o by_o the_o oral_a tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n we_o can_v be_v infallible_o teach_v which_o book_n be_v write_v by_o the_o father_n and_o which_o not_o if_o he_o can_v how_o hap_v it_o that_o the_o doctor_n of_o his_o church_n be_v not_o agree_v about_o very_a many_o of_o they_o some_o reject_v that_o as_o spurious_a which_o other_o quote_v as_o genuine_a if_o he_o can_v than_o we_o may_v have_v a_o title_n to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o father_n though_o we_o do_v renounce_v tradition_n because_o by_o tradition_n certain_a and_o infallible_a they_o do_v not_o know_v it_o and_o than_o if_o either_o they_o do_v not_o know_v it_o at_o all_o or_o know_v it_o any_o other_o way_n than_o by_o tradition_n we_o may_v know_v it_o that_o way_n as_o well_o as_o they_o and_o therefore_o have_v as_o good_a a_o title_n to_o make_v use_n of_o they_o as_o themselves_o but_o the_o good_a man_n proceed_v since_o pretend_a instance_n of_o tradition_n fail_v depend_v on_o history_n and_o historical_a certainty_n can_v be_v build_v upon_o dead_a character_n but_o on_o live_a sense_n in_o man_n heart_n deliver_v from_o age_n to_o age_n that_o those_o passage_n be_v true_a that_o be_v on_o tradition_n it_o follow_v that_o if_o the_o way_n of_o tradition_n can_v fail_v all_o history_n be_v uncertain_a and_o consequent_o all_o instance_n as_o be_v matter_n of_o fact_n depend_v on_o history_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v many_o instance_n in_o which_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o tradition_n have_v fail_v as_o will_v appear_v in_o the_o follow_a section_n and_o it_o be_v as_o true_a that_o the_o record_n of_o these_o instance_n be_v keep_v in_o book_n which_o be_v very_o ancient_a and_o write_v by_o author_n so_o credible_a that_o no_o man_n question_n the_o truth_n of_o these_o instance_n now_o i_o grant_v that_o we_o be_v tell_v by_o the_o word_n deliver_v by_o our_o forefather_n that_o these_o book_n be_v write_v by_o such_o man_n but_o than_o it_o may_v be_v our_o forefather_n though_o they_o keep_v the_o book_n safe_a yet_o know_v not_o what_o be_v write_v in_o they_o and_o if_o all_o the_o content_n of_o the_o book_n have_v be_v leave_v only_o to_o rely_v upon_o the_o live_a sense_n in_o their_o heart_n and_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o posterity_n we_o shall_v have_v have_v but_o few_o book_n and_o few_o instance_n of_o the_o fail_n of_o tradition_n only_o one_o great_a one_o will_v have_v be_v leave_v that_o be_v the_o lose_n of_o almost_o all_o that_o that_o be_v now_o record_v will_v have_v be_v a_o fatal_a sign_n that_o tradition_n fail_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o so_o sad_a a_o loss_n it_o be_v well_o tradition_n have_v help_v we_o to_o the_o dead_a character_n they_o bear_v their_o live_a sense_n so_o within_o themselves_o that_o it_o be_v quick_o understand_v when_o live_a man_n come_v to_o read_v they_o but_o now_o i_o demand_v of_o i._o s._n whither_o or_o no_o historical_a certainty_n rely_v only_o on_o certain_a and_o indefectible_a tradition_n if_o it_o do_v not_o than_o a_o man_n may_v be_v certain_a enough_o of_o the_o sacred_a history_n though_o there_o be_v no_o certain_a oral_a tradition_n build_v on_o live_a sense_n in_o man_n heart_n deliver_v from_o age_n to_o age_n if_o he_o do_v than_o i_o must_v ask_v whether_o i._o s._n do_v believe_v tacitus_n or_o that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o man_n as_o agricola_n or_o that_o the_o senate_n decree_v that_o nero_n shall_v be_v punish_v more_o majorum_fw-la if_o he_o do_v believe_v these_o story_n and_o these_o person_n than_o he_o must_v also_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v a_o oral_a indefectible_a tradition_n that_o tacitus_n write_v this_o book_n and_o that_o every_o thing_n in_o that_o book_n be_v write_v by_o he_o and_o it_o remain_v at_o this_o day_n as_o it_o be_v at_o first_o and_o that_o all_o this_o be_v not_o convey_v by_o dead_a and_o unfensed_a character_n but_o by_o live_a sense_n in_o our_o heart_n but_o now_o it_o will_v be_v very_o hard_a for_o any_o man_n to_o say_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o infallible_a tradition_n deliver_v all_o that_o roman_a story_n which_o we_o believe_v to_o be_v true_a no_o man_n pretend_v that_o there_o be_v and_o therefore_o 1._o history_n may_v be_v rely_v on_o without_o a_o certain_a indefectible_a oral_a tradition_n and_o 2._o the_o tradition_n that_o consign_n history_n to_o after_o age_n may_v be_v and_o be_v so_o most_o common_o nothing_o but_o of_o a_o fame_n that_o such_o a_o book_n be_v write_v by_o such_o a_o famous_a person_n who_o live_v in_o that_o age_n and_o may_v know_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o he_o write_v and_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o lie_v but_o be_v in_o all_o regard_v a_o very_a worthy_a and_o a_o credible_a person_n now_o here_o be_v as_o much_o certainty_n as_o need_v to_o be_v the_o thing_n itself_o will_v bear_v no_o more_o and_o almost_o all_o humane_a affair_n be_v transact_v by_o such_o a_o oeconomy_n as_o this_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v certain_a enough_o and_o be_v so_o esteem_v because_o it_o do_v all_o its_o intention_n and_o lose_v no_o advantage_n and_o persuade_v effectual_o and_o regular_o engage_v to_o all_o those_o action_n and_o event_n which_o history_n can_v do_v if_o the_o certainty_n be_v much_o great_a for_o the_o certainty_n of_o persuasion_n and_o prevail_v upon_o the_o great_a part_n of_o mankind_n may_v be_v as_o great_a by_o history_n wise_o and_o with_o great_a probability_n transmit_v as_o it_o can_v be_v by_o any_o imaginary_a certainty_n of_o a_o tradition_n that_o any_o dreamer_n can_v dream_v of_o nay_o it_o may_v be_v equal_a to_o a_o demonstration_n i_o mean_v as_o to_o the_o certainty_n of_o prevail_a for_o a_o little_a reason_n to_o a_o little_a understanding_n as_o certain_o prevail_v as_o a_o great_a to_o a_o deep_a and_o inquisitive_a understanding_n and_o mankind_n do_v not_o need_v demonstration_n in_o any_o case_n but_o where_o reason_n be_v puzzle_v with_o a_o aequilibrium_fw-la and_o that_o there_o be_v great_a probability_n hinc_fw-la inde_fw-la and_o therefore_o in_o these_o case_n where_o be_v a_o probability_n on_o one_o side_n and_o no_o appearance_n of_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o probability_n do_v the_o work_n of_o a_o demonstration_n for_o a_o reason_n to_o believe_v a_o thing_n and_o no_o reason_n to_o disbelieve_v it_o be_v as_o proper_a a_o way_n to_o persuade_v and_o to_o lead_v to_o action_n as_o that_o which_o be_v demonstrate_v and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n of_o history_n and_o of_o instance_n which_o though_o they_o can_v no_n not_o by_o a_o oral_a tradition_n be_v so_o certain_a as_o that_o the_o thing_n can_v not_o possible_o have_v be_v otherwise_o yet_o when_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o suspicion_n of_o fraud_n and_o imposture_n and_o great_a reason_n from_o any_o topic_a to_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v true_a he_o be_v a_o very_a fool_n that_o will_v forbear_v to_o act_v upon_o that_o account_n only_o because_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o that_o instance_n may_v have_v be_v not_o true_a though_o he_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o think_v it_o false_a and_o yet_o this_o foolish_a sophism_n run_v mighty_o along_o in_o i._n s._n his_o demonstration_n he_o can_v for_o his_o life_n distinguish_v between_o credible_a and_o infallible_a nothing_o by_o he_o can_v make_v faith_n unless_o it_o demonstrate_v that_o be_v nothing_o can_v make_v faith_n but_o that_o which_o destroy_v it_o by_o turn_v it_o into_o science_n his_o last_o argument_n for_o his_o second_o way_n of_o mine_v be_v so_o like_o the_o other_o that_o it_o be_v the_o worse_a for_o it_o since_o reason_n be_v fetch_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n and_o the_o best_a nature_n in_o what_o it_o be_v abstract_v from_o disease_n and_o madness_n unalterable_a be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o humane_a part_n of_o christian_a tradition_n and_o most_o incomparable_a strength_n be_v supperad_v to_o it_o as_o it_o be_v christian_a by_o the_o supernatural_a assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v a_o wild_a conceit_n to_o think_v any_o piece_n of_o nature_n or_o discourse_n build_v on_o it_o can_v be_v hold_v certain_a if_o tradition_n especial_o christian_a tradition_n may_v be_v hold_v uncertain_a in_o this_o jargon_n for_o i_o know_v not_o what_o else_o to_o call_v it_o there_o be_v a_o pretty_a company_n of_o nothing_o put_v
profess_v to_o be_v infallible_a i_o be_o certain_a in_o nothing_o and_o without_o a_o infallible_a oral_a tradition_n it_o be_v impossible_a i_o shall_v be_v certain_a of_o any_o thing_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o i_o demand_v why_o i_o may_v not_o be_v as_o certain_a of_o what_o i_o know_v or_o believe_v as_o mr._n white_a or_o i._o s._n be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n fire_n between_o death_n and_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o of_o the_o validity_n of_o the_o prayer_n and_o mass_n say_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o the_o free_n of_o soul_n from_o purgatory_n long_o before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v this_o doctrine_n i_o say_v deliver_v by_o a_o infallible_a oral_a tradition_n or_o no_o if_o not_o than_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n either_o be_v not_o certain_a it_o be_v true_a or_o else_o she_o be_v certain_a of_o it_o by_o some_o other_o way_n than_o such_o a_o tradition_n if_o yea_o then_o how_o be_v mr._n white_a certain_a that_o he_o speak_v true_a in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr statu_fw-la animarum_fw-la where_o he_o teach_v that_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n do_v no_o good_a and_o free_v no_o soul_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n for_o he_o have_v no_o oral_a tradition_n for_o his_o opinion_n for_o two_o oral_a tradition_n can_v be_v certain_a and_o infallible_a when_o they_o contradict_v one_o another_o and_o if_o the_o tradition_n be_v not_o infallible_a as_o good_a for_o these_o man_n that_o they_o be_v none_o at_o all_o so_o that_o either_o mr._n white_n can_v be_v certain_a of_o any_o thing_n he_o say_v by_o not_o rely_v on_o oral_a tradition_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v be_v certain_a and_o therefore_o he_o or_o she_o may_v forbear_v to_o persuade_v their_o friend_n to_o any_o thing_n and_o for_o my_o present_a adversary_n i._o s._n who_o also_o affirm_v that_o oral_a tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v the_o whole_a rule_n of_o faith_n how_o can_v he_o trust_v himself_o or_o be_v certain_a of_o any_o thing_n or_o teach_v any_o thing_n when_o his_o church_n say_v otherwise_o than_o he_o say_v and_o make_v tradition_n to_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n itself_o in_o the_o first_o decree_n of_o the_o four_o session_n veneratur_fw-la perspiciensque_fw-la hanc_fw-la verita_fw-la tem_fw-la &_o disciplinam_fw-la contineri_fw-la in_o libris_fw-la scriptis_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la scripto_fw-la traditionibus_fw-la omnes_fw-la libros_fw-la tamveteris_fw-la quam_fw-la n._n t._n nec_fw-la non_fw-la traditiones_fw-la ipsaâ_n etc._n etc._n pari_fw-la pietatis_fw-la affectu_fw-la ac_fw-la reverentiâ_fw-la suscipit_fw-la &_o veneratur_fw-la so_o that_o in_o effect_n here_o be_v two_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o two_o church_n mr._n i._n s.'s_n be_v the_o traditionary_a church_n so_o call_v from_o rely_v sole_o on_o tradition_n the_o other_o what_o shall_v we_o call_v it_o for_o distinction_n sake_n the_o purgatorian_a church_n from_o purgatory_n or_o if_o you_o will_v the_o imaginary_a church_n from_o worship_v image_n and_o since_o they_o do_v not_o both_o follow_v the_o same_o rule_n of_o faith_n the_o one_o make_v tradition_n alone_o to_o be_v the_o ground_n the_o other_z not_o so_o it_o will_v follow_v by_o mr._n i._o s._n his_o argument_n that_o either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o miss_v the_o true_a ground_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v certain_a of_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o say_v and_o now_o when_o he_o have_v consider_v these_o thing_n let_v he_o reckon_v the_o advantage_n which_o his_o catholic_a faith_n gain_v by_o the_o opposition_n from_o her_o adversary_n if_o they_o be_v right_o handle_v as_o mr._n s._n have_v handle_v they_o and_o bring_v to_o his_o ground_n but_o however_o the_o opposition_n which_o i_o have_v now_o make_v have_v its_o advantage_n upon_o the_o weakness_n of_o mr._n whites_n ground_n and_o i._o s.'s_n demonstration_n yet_o i_o shall_v without_o relation_n to_o they_o but_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o other_o ground_n which_o his_o wise_a and_o more_o learned_a brethren_n of_o the_o other_o church_n do_v lay_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v indeed_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o sure_a foot_n no_o foundation_n of_o faith_n upon_o which_o a_o man_n can_v with_o certainty_n rely_v and_o say_v now_o i_o be_o infallible_o sure_a that_o i_o be_o in_o the_o right_n the_o five_o way_n the_o five_o way_n i._o s._n say_v be_v build_v on_o the_o four_o which_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v a_o ruinous_a foundation_n i_o have_v the_o less_o need_n to_o trouble_v myself_o about_o that_o which_o will_v fall_v of_o itself_o but_o because_o he_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o trust_v that_o foundation_n for_o all_o his_o confidence_n he_o be_v glad_a to_o build_v his_o five_o way_n on_o the_o protestant_n voluntary_a concession_n for_o they_o grant_v they_o have_v no_o demonstration_n for_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o faith_n must_v say_v they_o have_v only_a probability_n but_o i_o pray_v who_o tell_v i._o s._n that_o we_o grant_v we_o have_v no_o demonstration_n for_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n do_v ever_o any_o protestant_a say_n that_o there_o be_v no_o moral_a demonstration_n of_o his_o faith_n or_o that_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v so_o certain_a so_o infallible_a that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o it_o if_o i._o s._n will_v descend_v so_o low_a as_o to_o look_v upon_o the_o book_n of_o a_o protestant_n beside_o many_o better_a 124._o book_n 1._o chap._n pag._n 124._o he_o may_v find_v in_o my_o case_n of_o conscience_n a_o demonstration_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o although_o it_o consist_v of_o probability_n yet_o so_o many_o so_o unquestioned_a so_o confess_v so_o reasonable_a so_o uncontradict_v pass_v into_o a_o argument_n of_o as_o much_o certainty_n as_o humane_a nature_n without_o a_o miracle_n be_v capable_a of_o as_o many_o sand_n heap_v together_o make_v a_o bank_n strong_a enough_o to_o resist_v the_o impetuosity_n of_o the_o rage_a sea_n but_o i_o have_v already_o show_v upon_o what_o certainty_n our_o faith_n rely_v and_o if_o we_o have_v nothing_o but_o high_a probability_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v as_o good_a as_o their_o prudential_a motive_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o repeat_v any_o thing_n but_o pass_v on_o to_o consider_v what_o it_o be_v he_o say_v of_o our_o high_a probability_n if_o they_o be_v no_o more_o if_o there_o be_v probability_n on_o both_o side_n than_o the_o great_a must_v carry_v it_o so_o he_o roundly_o profess_v never_o consider_v that_o the_o latter_a casuist_n of_o his_o church_n i_o mean_v those_o who_o write_v since_o angelus_n silvester_n cordubensis_n and_o cajetan_n do_v express_o teach_v the_o contrary_a viz._n that_o of_o two_o probability_n the_o less_o may_v be_v choose_v and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o common_a and_o more_o receive_v opinion_n but_o since_o i._o s._n be_v in_o the_o right_n let_v they_o and_o he_o agree_v it_o as_o we_o do_v if_o they_o please_v i_o hope_v he_o relate_v this_o only_a to_o the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o rome_n and_o not_o to_o the_o christian_a faith_n well_o but_o if_o the_o matter_n be_v only_o between_o we_o i_o be_o well_o enough_o content_a and_o the_o great_a probability_n that_o be_v the_o better_a argument_n shall_v carry_v it_o and_o i_o will_v not_o be_v ask_v any_o more_o odd_a question_n as_o why_o i._o s._n have_v so_o clear_o demonstrate_v his_o religion_n by_o ground_n firm_a as_o the_o land_n of_o delos_n or_o o_o brasile_n he_o shall_v now_o be_v content_a to_o argue_v his_o cause_n at_o the_o bar_n of_o probability_n well_o but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o say_v for_o his_o party_n that_o there_o be_v no_o probability_n for_o our_o side_n say_v i_o s._n be_v very_o hard_a to_o be_v say_v since_o the_o whole_a world_n see_v plain_o we_o still_o maintain_v the_o field_n against_o they_o nay_o dare_v pretend_v without_o fear_v a_o absolute_a baffle_n which_o must_v needs_o follow_v have_v we_o not_o at_o least_o probability_n to_o befriend_v we_o that_o our_o ground_n be_v evident_o and_o demonstrable_o certain_a here_o i._n s._n seem_v to_o be_v afraid_a again_o of_o his_o probability_n that_o he_o still_o run_v to_o covert_n under_o his_o broad_a shield_n of_o demonstration_n but_o his_o postulatum_fw-la here_o be_v indeed_o very_o modest_a he_o seem_v to_o desire_v we_o to_o allow_v that_o there_o be_v some_o probable_a thing_n to_o be_v say_v for_o his_o side_n and_o indeed_o he_o be_v very_o hard_o heart_v that_o shall_v say_v there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o some_o probability_n we_o shall_v allow_v but_o no_o ground_n evident_o and_o demonstrative_o certain_a good_a sir_n and_o yet_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o this_o there_o be_v some_o of_o your_o proposition_n for_o
glossator_fw-la false_o apply_v to_o all_o the_o work_n of_o the_o father_n against_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o father_n themselves_o quote_v by_o gratian_n in_o the_o nine_o distinction_n and_o against_o the_o sense_n of_o gelasius_n himself_o in_o that_o very_a chapter_n which_o he_o refer_v to_o in_o the_o fifteen_o distinction_n it_o may_v be_v i._o s._n have_v not_o so_o much_o to_o say_v for_o his_o bold_a proposition_n as_o this_o itself_o come_v to_o which_o if_o he_o have_v ever_o see_v he_o must_v needs_o have_v see_v in_o the_o same_o place_n very_o much_o to_o the_o contrary_n but_o that_o not_o only_o the_o father_n themselves_o have_v teach_v he_o to_o speak_v more_o modest_o of_o they_o than_o he_o do_v and_o that_o divers_a lead_v man_n of_o his_o church_n have_v reprove_v this_o foolish_a affirmative_a of_o his_o he_o may_v be_v satisfy_v if_o he_o please_v to_o read_v aquinas_n authoritatibus_fw-la canonicae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la utitur_fw-la sacra_fw-la doctrina_fw-la ex_fw-la necessitate_v argumentando_fw-la arg_n primâ_fw-la parte_fw-la q._n 1._o part_n 8._o ad_fw-la 2._o arg_n authoritatibus_fw-la autem_fw-la aliorum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quasi_fw-la arguendo_fw-la ex_fw-la propriis_fw-la sed_fw-la probabiliter_fw-la now_o i_o know_v not_o what_o hope_n of_o escape_v i._o s._n can_v have_v by_o his_o restrictive_a term_n the_o testimony_n of_o father_n speak_v of_o they_o proper_o as_o such_o for_o beside_o that_o the_o word_n mean_v nothing_o and_o the_o testimony_n of_o father_n be_v the_o testimony_n of_o father_n as_o such_o or_o it_o be_v just_a nothing_o at_o all_o beside_o this_o i_o say_v that_o aquinas_n affirm_v that_o their_o whole_a authority_n and_o therefore_o of_o father_n as_o such_o be_v only_o probable_a and_o therefore_o certain_o not_o infallible_a but_o this_o be_v so_o fond_a a_o proposition_n of_o i._o s._n that_o i_o be_o ashamed_a to_o speak_v any_o more_o of_o it_o and_o if_o he_o be_v not_o very_o ignorant_a of_o what_o his_o church_n hold_v 7._o lib._n 1._o adv_n haeres_fw-la c._n 7._o he_o will_v never_o have_v say_v it_o etc._n lib._n 7._o loc_fw-la theol_n c._n 3._o n._n 4._o etc._n etc._n but_o for_o his_o better_a information_n i_o desire_v the_o gentleman_n to_o read_v alphonsus_n a_o castro_n melehior_n canus_n and_o bellarmine_n dice_v de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la lib._n 3._o c._n 10._o sect._n dice_v it_o be_v not_o therefore_o the_o constant_a doctrine_n of_o the_o romanist_n that_o the_o father_n be_v infallible_a for_o i_o never_o read_v or_o hear_v any_o man_n say_v it_o but_o i._n s._n and_o neither_o be_v it_o the_o avow_a doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n unless_o he_o will_v condemn_v all_o they_o for_o heretic_n that_o deny_v it_o some_o of_o which_o i_o have_v already_o name_v and_o more_o will_v be_v add_v upon_o this_o occasion_n well!_o but_o how_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o the_o father_n testimony_n be_v a_o testimony_n of_o father_n speak_v proper_o as_o such_o for_o this_o doughty_a question_n we_o be_v to_o inquire_v after_o in_o the_o pursuit_n of_o i._o s._n his_o mine_n and_o cracker_n he_o say_v in_o two_o case_n they_o speak_v as_o father_n 1._o when_o they_o declare_v it_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o their_o time_n 2._o when_o they_o write_v against_o any_o man_n as_o a_o heretic_n or_o his_o tenet_n as_o heresy_n it_o seem_v then_o in_o these_o the_o father_n testimony_n be_v infallible_a let_v we_o try_v this_o 1._o all_o or_o any_o thing_n of_o this_o may_v be_v do_v by_o father_n suppose_v such_o but_o real_o not_o so_o and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o infallible_o certain_a which_o be_v and_o which_o be_v not_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n we_o be_v nothing_o the_o near_a though_o it_o be_v agree_v that_o the_o true_a father_n testimony_n be_v infallible_a or_o 2._o if_o the_o book_n allege_v be_v the_o book_n of_o the_o father_n pretend_v and_o not_o of_o a_o obscure_a or_o heretical_a person_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v the_o word_n be_v interpolate_v or_o the_o testimony_n some_o way_n or_o other_o corrupt_v and_o then_o the_o testimony_n be_v not_o infallible_a when_o there_o be_v no_o absolute_a certainty_n of_o the_o witness_n themselves_o or_o the_o record_n and_o what_o cause_v there_o be_v of_o reject_v very_o many_o and_o doubt_v more_o and_o therefore_o in_o matter_n of_o present_a interest_n and_o question_n of_o uncertainty_n and_o fallibility_n in_o too_o many_o be_v know_v to_o every_o learned_a man_n and_o confess_v by_o writer_n of_o both_o side_n 2._o it_o be_v very_o seldom_o that_o any_o of_o the_o father_n do_v use_v that_o expression_n of_o say_v this_o or_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o if_o they_o speak_v as_o father_n never_o but_o when_o these_o two_o case_n happen_v the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n will_v be_v of_o very_o little_a use_n in_o i._o s.'s_n way_n 3._o and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o if_o we_o shall_v descend_v to_o instance_n i._n s._n will_v not_o dare_v to_o justify_v what_o he_o say_v be_v justin_n martyr_n infallible_a when_o he_o say_v that_o all_o christian_n who_o be_v pure_a believer_n do_v believe_v the_o millenary_a doctrine_n certain_o they_o be_v the_o church_n for_o the_o other_o he_o say_v be_v such_o as_o deny_v the_o resurrection_n but_o be_v gennadius_n or_o else_o s._n austin_n father_n and_o they_o infallible_a in_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr dogmatibus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la in_o which_o he_o intend_v to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n i._o s._n seem_v to_o acknowledge_v it_o by_o affirm_v a_o say_n out_o of_o that_o book_n to_o have_v be_v then_o the_o fide_fw-la which_o because_o it_o have_v be_v oppose_v by_o very_a many_o of_o the_o father_n he_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o affirm_v but_o upon_o the_o witness_n of_o gennadius_n put_v it_o into_o his_o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a doctrine_n and_o he_o afterward_o call_v it_o the_o testimony_n of_o gennadius_n deliver_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 315._o pag._n 315._o it_o be_v there_o say_v that_o all_o man_n shall_v die_v christ_n only_a except_v that_o death_n may_v reign_v from_o adam_n upon_o all_o hanc_fw-la rationem_fw-la maxima_fw-la patrum_fw-la turba_fw-la tradente_fw-la suscepimus_fw-la this_o account_n we_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o great_a company_n of_o the_o father_n if_o this_o be_v a_o tradition_n deliver_v by_o the_o great_a number_n of_o the_o father_n than_o 1._o tradition_n be_v not_o a_o sure_a rule_n of_o say_v for_o this_o tradition_n be_v false_a and_o express_o against_o scripture_n and_o 2._o it_o follow_v that_o tradition_n be_v not_o then_o esteem_v a_o sure_a rule_n of_o faith_n for_o although_o this_o be_v a_o tradition_n from_o so_o great_a a_o troop_n of_o father_n at_o he_o say_v it_o be_v yet_o there_o be_v in_o his_o time_n alii_fw-la aeque_fw-la catholici_fw-la &_o eruditi_fw-la viri_fw-la other_o as_o good_a catholic_n and_o as_o learned_a that_o believe_v as_o s._n paul_n believe_v that_o we_o shall_v not_o all_o dye_n but_o we_o shall_v all_o be_v change_v and_o however_o it_o be_v yet_o all_o that_o troop_n of_o father_n he_o speak_v of_o from_o whence_o the_o tradition_n come_v be_v not_o infallible_a for_o they_o be_v actual_o deceive_v now_o this_o instance_n be_v of_o great_a consideration_n and_o force_n against_o i._o s._n his_o first_o and_o self_n evident_a principle_n concern_v oral_a tradition_n for_o all_o that_o number_n of_o father_n if_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n have_v be_v only_o oral_a tradition_n will_v horrible_o have_v disturb_v the_o pure_a current_n of_o tradition_n and_o of_o necessity_n must_v have_v prevail_v in_o i._o s._n his_o way_n or_o at_o least_o the_o contrary_n which_o be_v the_o truth_n and_o express_o affirm_v in_o scripture_n can_v never_o have_v have_v the_o irrefragable_a testimony_n of_o oral_a tradition_n but_o thanks_o be_v to_o god_n in_o this_o the_o church_n adhere_v to_o the_o sure_a word_n of_o prophecy_n the_o scripture_n prove_v the_o sure_a rule_n of_o faith_n but_o again_o s._n austin_n or_o gennadius_n say_v that_o after_o christ_n resurrection_n the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o saint_n be_v with_o christ_n and_o that_o go_v forth_o from_o the_o body_n they_o go_v to_o christ_n expect_v the_o resurrection_n of_o their_o body_n this_o he_o deliver_v as_o the_o ecclesiastical_a doctrine_n and_o do_v the_o patron_n of_o purgatory_n believe_v he_o in_o this_o to_o be_v infallible_a for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v s._n austin_n be_v in_o the_o right_a but_o i_o think_v i._n s._n will_v not_o grant_v this_o to_o be_v the_o avow_a and_o constant_a doctrine_n of_o his_o church_n the_o second_o case_n in_o which_o they_o speak_v as_o father_n be_v when_o they_o write_v against_o any_o man_n as_o a_o
word_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o apostle_n creed_n for_o a_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o be_v threaten_v with_o damnation_n if_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v whatever_o their_o church_n have_v determine_v and_o yet_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v know_v it_o but_o by_o the_o word_n of_o their_o parish_n priest_n or_o confessor_n it_o lie_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o every_o parish_n priest_n to_o make_v the_o people_n believe_v any_o thing_n and_o be_v of_o any_o religion_n and_o trust_v to_o any_o article_n as_o they_o shall_v choose_v and_o find_v to_o their_o purpose_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n require_v tradition_n to_o be_v add_v and_o receive_v equal_a with_o scripture_n they_o both_o not_o single_o but_o in_o conjunction_n make_v up_o the_o full_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o indeed_o general_o their_o whole_a church_n understand_v one_o to_o be_v incomplete_a without_o the_o other_o and_o yet_o master_n white_a who_o i_o suppose_v tell_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o his_o neighbour_n affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o catholic_n position_n that_o all_o its_o doctrine_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n which_o proposition_n be_v tie_v with_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n give_v a_o very_a good_a account_n of_o it_o and_o make_v it_o excellent_a sense_n thus_o tradition_n must_v be_v receive_v with_o equal_a authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n say_v the_o council_n and_o wonder_v not_o for_o say_v master_n white_a all_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o scripture_n you_o may_v believe_v so_o if_o you_o please_v for_o the_o contrary_n be_v not_o a_o catholic_n doctrine_n but_o if_o these_o two_o thing_n do_v not_o agree_v better_o than_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a to_o tell_v what_o regard_n will_v be_v have_v to_o what_o the_o council_n say_v the_o people_n know_v not_o that_o but_o as_o their_o priest_n teach_v they_o and_o though_o they_o be_v bind_v under_o great_a pain_n to_o believe_v the_o whole_a catholic_n religion_n yet_o that_o the_o priest_n themselves_o do_v not_o know_v it_o or_o wilful_o misreport_n it_o and_o therefore_o that_o the_o people_n can_v tell_v it_o it_o be_v too_o evident_a in_o this_o instance_n and_o in_o the_o multitude_n of_o dispute_n which_o be_v among_o themselves_o about_o many_o considerable_a article_n in_o their_o catholic_n religion_n alibi_fw-la vide_fw-la wadding_n of_o immac_n oncept_n p._n 282._o &_o p._n 334._o &_o alibi_fw-la pius_fw-la quintus_fw-la speak_v of_o thomas_n aquinas_n call_v his_o doctrine_n the_o most_o certain_a rule_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o divers_a particular_n of_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o romanist_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o revelation_n of_o s._n bridget_n which_o be_v contradict_v by_o those_o of_o s._n katherine_n of_o sienna_n now_o they_o not_o rely_v on_o the_o way_n of_o god_n fall_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o man_n who_o teach_v they_o according_a to_o the_o interest_n of_o their_o order_n or_o private_a fancy_n and_o expound_v their_o rule_n by_o measure_n of_o their_o own_o but_o yet_o such_o which_o they_o make_v to_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o salvation_n and_o damnation_n they_o be_v teach_v to_o rely_v for_o their_o faith_n upon_o the_o church_n and_o this_o when_o it_o come_v to_o practice_v be_v nothing_o but_o their_o private_a priest_n and_o he_o do_v not_o always_o tell_v they_o the_o sense_n of_o their_o church_n and_o be_v not_o infallible_a in_o declare_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o and_o be_v not_o always_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o instance_n now_o set_v down_o faithful_a in_o relate_v of_o it_o but_o first_o consens_fw-la himself_n by_o his_o subtlety_n and_o then_o other_o by_o his_o confidence_n and_o therefore_o in_o be_v impossible_a there_o can_v be_v any_o certainty_n to_o they_o that_o proceed_v this_o way_n when_o god_n have_v so_o plain_o give_v they_o a_o better_a and_o require_v of_o they_o nothing_o but_o to_o live_v a_o holy_a life_n as_o a_o superstructure_n of_o christian_a faith_n describe_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o plain_a place_n of_o scripture_n and_o in_o the_o apostolical_a creed_n in_o which_o they_o can_v suffer_v no_o illusion_n and_o where_o there_o be_v no_o uncertainty_n in_o the_o matter_n to_o be_v believe_v iv_o the_o next_o thing_n i_o observe_v be_v that_o they_o all_o talk_v of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o a_o charm_n and_o sacred_a amulet_n yet_o they_o can_v by_o all_o their_o art_n make_v we_o certain_a where_o or_o how_o infallible_o to_o find_v this_o church_n i_o have_v already_o in_o this_o section_n prove_v this_o in_o the_o main_a inquiry_n by_o show_v that_o the_o church_n be_v that_o body_n which_o they_o do_v not_o rely_v upon_o but_o now_o i_o shall_v show_v that_o the_o church_n which_o they_o will_v point_v out_o can_v never_o be_v certain_o know_v to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n by_o those_o indication_n and_o sign_n which_o they_o offer_v to_o the_o world_n as_o her_o characteristic_a note_n s._n austin_n in_o his_o excellent_a book_n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 3._o lib._n de_fw-fr vnit._n eccles._n cap._n &_o cap._n 17._o ergo_fw-la in_o scripture_n canonicis_fw-la eam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la requiramus_fw-la cap._n 3._o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o whereto_o be_v find_v but_o in_o praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la cantibus_fw-la in_fw-la ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evangelistarum_fw-la praedicationibus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la canonicis_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n only_o and_o he_o give_v but_o one_o great_a note_n of_o it_o and_o that_o be_v adhere_v to_o the_o head_n jesus_n christ_n for_o the_o church_n be_v christ_n body_n who_o by_o charity_n be_v unite_v to_o one_o another_o and_o to_o christ_n their_o head_n and_o he_o that_o be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o christ_n can_v obtain_v salvation_n and_o he_o add_v no_o other_o mark_n but_o that_o christ_n church_n be_v not_o this_o or_o that_o viz._n not_o of_o one_o denomination_n but_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d disperse_v over_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n make_v adhesion_n to_o the_o head_n sententia_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr eccles_n militant_a lib._n 3._o cap._n sect._n nostra_fw-la autem_fw-la sententia_fw-la not_o jesus_n christ_n but_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v of_o the_o essential_a constitution_n of_o the_o church_n now_o this_o be_v the_o great_a question_n between_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o indeed_o of_o all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o world_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v a_o sign_n to_o know_v the_o church_n by_o that_o it_o be_v apparent_a they_o have_v no_o ground_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o the_o great_a question_n of_o christendom_n and_o that_o which_o be_v condemn_v by_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n but_o themselves_o be_v their_o foundation_n and_o this_o be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o considerable_a because_o concern_v very_o many_o head_n of_o their_o church_n it_o be_v too_o apparent_a that_o they_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o member_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o base_a of_o criminal_n and_o enemy_n of_o all_o godliness_n and_o concern_v other_o that_o be_v not_o so_o notorious_o wicked_a they_o can_v not_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o christ_n or_o that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o their_o father_n the_o devil_n the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n be_v promise_v to_o the_o apostle_n upon_o condition_n and_o judas_n fall_v from_o it_o by_o transgression_n but_o the_o uncertainty_n be_v yetgreat_a adhere_v to_o the_o pope_n can_v be_v a_o certain_a note_n of_o the_o church_n because_o no_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a who_o be_v true_a pope_n for_o the_o pope_n if_o he_o be_v a_o simoniac_a be_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la no_o pope_n as_o appear_v in_o the_o bull_n of_o julius_n the_o second_o and_o yet_o beside_o that_o he_o himself_o be_v call_v a_o most_o notorious_a simoniac_a sixtus_n quintus_n give_v a_o obligation_n under_o his_o hand_n upon_o condition_n that_o the_o cardinal_n d'este_fw-fr will_v bring_v over_o his_o voice_n to_o he_o and_o make_v he_o pope_n that_o he_o will_v never_o make_v hierom_n matthew_n a_o cardinal_n which_o when_o he_o break_v the_o cardinal_n send_v his_o obligation_n to_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n who_o intend_v to_o accuse_v he_o of_o simony_n but_o it_o break_v the_o pope_n heart_n and_o so_o he_o escape_v here_o and_o be_v reserve_v to_o be_v hear_v before_o a_o more_o unerring_a judicatory_a and_o when_o pius_n quartus_fw-la use_v all_o the_o secret_a art_n to_o dissolve_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v see_v in_o it_o and_o to_o that_o purpose_n dispatch_v away_o the_o bishop_n from_o rome_n he_o forbid_v the_o archbishop_n of_o
difference_n s._n basil_n here_o declare_v that_o as_o former_o he_o have_v it_o always_o fix_v in_o mind_n to_o fly_v every_o voice_n &_o every_o sentence_n which_o be_v a_o stranger_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o lord_n so_o now_o also_o at_o this_o time_n seqâentibus_fw-la ibidem_fw-la in_o seqâentibus_fw-la viz._n when_o he_o be_v to_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a christian_n faith_n neither_o can_v there_o be_v hence_o any_o escape_n by_o say_v 3._o say_v truth_n will_v out_o pag._n 3._o that_o nothing_o indeed_o be_v to_o be_v add_v to_o the_o scripture_n but_o yet_o to_o the_o faith_n something_o be_v to_o be_v reckon_v which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n for_o although_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v that_o also_o put_v more_o into_o the_o canon_n than_o be_v among_o the_o jew_n acknowledge_v or_o by_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o christian_n yet_o beside_o this_o s._n basil_n have_v have_v say_v supra_fw-la vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la whatsoever_o be_v not_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n he_o say_v also_o by_o certain_a consequence_n that_o to_o add_v to_o the_o scripture_n be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o add_v to_o the_o faith_n and_o therefore_o he_o exhort_v even_o the_o novice_n to_o study_v the_o scripture_n ãâã_d in_o regul_n brev_n reg_fw-la 95._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d for_o to_o his_o 95th_o question_n whether_o it_o be_v fit_a for_o novice_n present_o to_o learn_v the_o thing_n of_o the_o scripture_n he_o answer_n it_o be_v right_a and_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o those_o thing_n which_o appertain_v to_o use_v every_o one_o shall_v learn_v from_o the_o scripture_n both_o for_o the_o replenish_n of_o their_o mind_n with_o piety_n as_o also_o that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v accustom_v to_o humane_a tradition_n by_o which_o word_n he_o not_o only_o declare_v that_o by_o the_o scripture_n our_o mind_n be_v abundant_o fill_v with_o piety_n but_o that_o humane_a tradition_n by_o which_o he_o mean_v every_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v but_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o be_v best_a of_o all_o banish_a from_o our_o mind_n by_o entertain_v of_o scripture_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v his_o word_n in_o his_o ethic_n 26._o moral_a regul_n 26._o whatsoever_o we_o say_v or_o do_v aught_o to_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o divinity_n inspire_v by_o scripture_n both_o for_o the_o full_a persuasion_n of_o the_o good_a and_o the_o confusion_n or_o damnation_n of_o evil_a thing_n there_o be_v your_o rule_n that_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o true_a faith_n and_o therefore_o s._n athanasius_n speak_v concern_v the_o nicene_n council_n episc._n epist._n ad_fw-la epicteâum_fw-la corinthiorum_fw-la episc._n make_v no_o scruple_n that_o the_o question_n be_v sufficient_o determine_v concern_v the_o proper_a divinity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n because_o it_o be_v determine_v and_o the_o faith_n be_v expound_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o affirm_v that_o the_o faith_n so_o determine_v be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o reproof_n of_o all_o impiety_n mean_v in_o the_o article_n of_o christ_n divinity_n and_o for_o the_o establishment_n of_o the_o orthodox_n faith_n in_o christ._n incarnate_a de_fw-fr incarnate_a nay_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o catholic_n christian_n will_v neither_o speak_v nor_o endure_v to_o hear_v any_o thing_n in_o religion_n that_o be_v a_o stranger_n to_o scripture_n it_o be_v a_o evil_a heart_n of_o immodesty_n to_o speak_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o write_v which_o word_n i_o the_o rather_o remark_n monachos_fw-la idem_fw-la athanas._n in_o exhort_v ad_fw-la monachos_fw-la because_o this_o article_n of_o the_o consubstantiality_n of_o christ_n with_o the_o father_n be_v bring_v as_o a_o instance_n by_o the_o romanist_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o tradition_n to_o make_v up_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o scripture_n but_o not_o in_o this_o only_a but_o for_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o truth_n indefinite_o ãâã_d moral_a contra_fw-la gentiles_n in_o ãâã_d that_o be_v the_o whole_a truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n he_o affirm_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o write_v to_o macarius_n a_o priest_n of_o alexandria_n he_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o knowledge_n of_o true_a and_o divine_a religion_n and_o piety_n do_v not_o much_o need_n the_o ministry_n of_o man_n and_o that_o he_o may_v abundant_o draw_v this_o forth_o from_o the_o divine_a book_n and_o letter_n for_o true_o the_o holy_a and_o divinely-inspired_a scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o truth_n 1548._o coloniae_fw-la ex_fw-la officââ_n melcâââââ_n novefiani_n 1548._o ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la instructionem_fw-la veritatis_fw-la so_o the_o latin_a translation_n for_o the_o whole_a instruction_n of_o truth_n or_o the_o instruction_n of_o all_o truth_n but_o because_o macarius_n desire_v rather_o to_o hear_v other_o teach_v he_o this_o doctrine_n and_o true_a religion_n than_o himself_o to_o draw_v it_o from_o scripture_n s._n athanasius_n tell_v he_o that_o there_o be_v many_o write_a monument_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o our_o master_n which_o if_o man_n will_v diligent_o read_v over_o he_o shall_v learn_v the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o obtain_v that_o notion_n of_o truth_n which_o he_o desire_v which_o be_v perfect_o the_o same_o advice_n which_o the_o church_n of_o england_n command_v her_o son_n that_o they_o shall_v teach_v nothing_o but_o what_o the_o father_n and_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n draw_v forth_o from_o scripture_n the_o same_o principal_a doctrine_n in_o the_o whole_a be_v teach_v frequent_o by_o s._n chrysostom_n johan_n homil._n 58._o ãâã_d johan_n who_o compare_v the_o scripture_n to_o a_o door_n which_o be_v shut_v to_o hinder_v the_o heretic_n from_o enter_v in_o and_o introduce_v we_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n this_o sure_o be_v sufficient_a if_o it_o do_v this_o it_o do_v all_o that_o we_o need_v and_o if_o it_o do_v not_o s._n chrysostom_n be_v great_o deceive_v and_o so_o be_v we_o and_o so_o be_v all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o all_o the_o first_o age_n but_o he_o be_v constant_a in_o the_o same_o affirmative_a timoth._n homil_n 9_o in_o 2_o timoth._n if_o there_o be_v need_n to_o learn_v or_o to_o be_v ignorant_a thence_o we_o shall_v learn_v it_o finem_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o psal._n 95._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la if_o to_o confute_v or_o argue_v that_o which_o be_v false_a thence_o we_o shall_v draw_v it_o if_o to_o be_v correct_v or_o chastise_v to_o exhortation_n if_o any_o thing_n be_v want_v for_o our_o comfort_n and_o that_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v it_o nevertheless_o from_o thence_o from_o the_o scripture_n we_o learn_v it_o that_o the_o man_n be_v perfect_a therefore_o without_o it_o he_o can_v be_v perfect_v in_o stead_n of_o i_o he_o say_v thou_o have_v the_o scripture_n if_o thou_o desire_v to_o learn_v any_o thing_n hence_o thou_o may_v but_o if_o he_o write_v these_o thing_n to_o timothy_n who_o be_v fill_v with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n how_o much_o more_o must_v we_o think_v these_o thing_n speak_v to_o we_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o discourse_v large_o in_o his_o eight_o homily_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n 2._o homil._n 9_o in_o coloss._n &_o in_o 2_o thess._n 2._o which_o be_v here_o too_o long_o to_o transcribe_v let_v no_o man_n look_v for_o another_o master_n imperfecti_fw-la homil._n 49._o in_o matth._n 23._o oper_n imperfecti_fw-la thou_o have_v the_o oracle_n of_o god_n no_o man_n teach_v thou_o like_a to_o they_o because_o ever_o since_o heresy_n do_v infest_v those_o church_n there_o can_v be_v no_o proof_n of_o true_a christianity_n nor_o any_o other_o refuge_n for_o christian_n who_o will_v know_v the_o truth_n of_o faith_n but_o that_o of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n but_o now_o by_o no_o mean_n be_v it_o know_v by_o they_o who_o will_v know_v which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n profert_fw-la de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11._o sect._n sextò_fw-la profert_fw-la bellarmine_n very_o learned_o say_v that_o these_o word_n be_v put_v into_o this_o book_n by_o the_o arian_n but_o because_o he_o offer_v at_o no_o pretence_n of_o reason_n for_o any_o such_o interpolation_n and_o it_o be_v without_o cause_n to_o suspect_v it_o though_o the_o author_n of_o it_o have_v be_v a_o arian_n because_o the_o arian_n be_v never_o note_v to_o differ_v from_o the_o church_n in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o scripture_n sufficiency_n i_o look_v upon_o this_o as_o a_o pitiful_a shift_n of_o a_o man_n that_o resolve_v to_o say_v any_o thing_n rather_o than_o confess_v his_o error_n and_o at_o last_o he_o conclude_v with_o many_o word_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n our_o lord_n therefore_o know_v what_o confusion_n of_o thing_n will_v be_v in_o the_o
be_v whatsoever_o be_v deliver_v and_o preach_v be_v record_v which_o they_o so_o firm_o believe_v that_o they_o reject_v the_o tradition_n unless_o it_o be_v so_o record_v and_o 2._o it_o hence_o also_o follow_v that_o tradition_n be_v and_o be_v esteem_v the_o worse_a way_n of_o convey_v proposition_n and_o story_n because_o the_o church_n require_v that_o the_o tradition_n shall_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o be_v the_o less_o certain_a by_o the_o more_o stephani_fw-la epist._n ad_fw-la pompeium_n contra_fw-la epist_n stephani_fw-la that_o this_o be_v so_o s._n cyprian_n be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n for_o when_o pope_n stephen_n have_v say_v let_v no_o thing_n be_v change_v only_o that_o which_o be_v deliver_v mean_v the_o old_a tradition_n that_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v s._n cyprian_n inquire_v from_o whence_o that_o tradition_n come_v do_v it_o come_v from_o the_o gospel_n or_o the_o epistle_n or_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n so_o that_o after_o the_o writing_n and_o reception_n of_o scripture_n tradition_n mean_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o be_v in_o scripture_n or_o if_o it_o do_v not_o the_o father_n will_v not_o admit_v it_o 1._o damasc._n de_fw-fr orthod_n fide_fw-la c._n 1._o all_o thing_n which_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o by_o the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n we_o receive_v and_o know_v and_o reverence_n but_o we_o inquire_v not_o further_o ãâã_d apud_fw-la euseb._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 20._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d nothing_o beyond_o they_o if_o the_o tradition_n be_v agreeable_a to_o scripture_n say_v s._n irenaeus_n that_o be_v if_o that_o which_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v teach_v at_o first_o be_v record_v by_o they_o who_o do_v teach_v it_o than_o all_o be_v well_o and_o this_o affair_n be_v full_o testify_v by_o the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n 8._o lib._n 5._o cap._n 8._o which_o be_v great_o conclusive_a of_o this_o inquiry_n we_o have_v say_v he_o promise_v that_o we_o will_v propose_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o old_a ecclesiastical_a presbyter_n and_o writer_n by_o which_o they_o declare_v the_o tradition_n by_o the_o authority_n witness_v and_o consign_v of_o the_o approve_a scripture_n among_o who_o be_v irenaeus_n say_v the_o latin_a version_n but_o i_o shall_v descend_v to_o a_o consideration_n of_o the_o particular_n which_o pretend_v to_o come_v to_o we_o by_o tradition_n and_o without_o it_o can_v as_o it_o be_v say_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n 1._o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o scripture_n itself_o be_v whole_o derive_v to_o we_o by_o tradition_n and_o therefore_o beside_o scripture_n tradition_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n and_o indeed_o no_o man_n that_o understand_v this_o question_n deny_v it_o this_o tradition_n that_o these_o book_n be_v write_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o church_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n rely_v principal_o upon_o tradition_n universal_a that_o be_v it_o be_v witness_v to_o be_v true_a by_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n at_o their_o first_o be_v so_o consign_v now_o than_o this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o the_o notification_n or_o manner_n of_o convey_v the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o instrument_n of_o its_o delivery_n so_o that_o the_o tradition_n concern_v the_o scripture_n be_v extrinsical_a to_o scripture_n be_v also_o extrinsical_a to_o the_o question_n this_o tradition_n can_v be_v a_o objection_n against_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n to_o salvation_n but_o must_v go_v before_o this_o question_n for_o no_o man_n inquire_v whether_o the_o scripture_n contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n unless_o he_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v scripture_n that_o these_o be_v they_o and_o that_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n all_o this_o come_v to_o we_o by_o tradition_n that_o be_v by_o universal_a undeniable_a testimony_n after_o the_o scripture_n be_v thus_o receive_v there_o be_v rise_v another_o question_n viz._n whether_o or_o no_o these_o scripture_n so_o deliver_v to_o we_o do_v contain_v all_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o whether_o or_o no_o beside_o the_o tradition_n that_o go_v before_o scripture_n which_o be_v a_o instrumental_a tradition_n only_o of_o scripture_n there_o be_v not_o also_o something_o else_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n consign_v by_o tradition_n as_o well_o as_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o thing_n as_o necessary_a or_o useful_a as_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n and_o that_o be_v equal_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o scripture_n be_v the_o tradition_n of_o scripture_n we_o receive_v but_o of_o nothing_o else_o but_o what_o be_v in_o scripture_n and_o if_o it_o be_v ask_v etc._n it_o be_v therefore_o weak_o say_v by_o e._n w._n pag_n 5._o if_o he_o say_v that_o he_o impugn_v all_o tradition_n in_o general_n all_o doctrine_n not_o express_o contain_v in_o scripture_n force_v he_o be_v to_o throw_v away_o scripture_n itself_o etc._n etc._n why_o we_o receive_v one_o and_o not_o the_o rest_n we_o answer_v because_o we_o have_v but_o one_o tradition_n of_o thing_n necessary_a that_o be_v there_o be_v a_o universal_a tradition_n of_o scripture_n and_o what_o concern_v it_o but_o none_o of_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n and_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n we_o shall_v have_v any_o all_o thing_n necessary_a and_o profitable_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o man_n be_v plain_o contain_v in_o scripture_n and_o this_o sufficiency_n also_o be_v part_n of_o that_o tradition_n as_o i_o be_o now_o prove_v but_o because_o other_o thing_n also_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v etc._n e._n w._n ibid._n he_o be_v force_v not_o only_o to_o throw_v away_o scripture_n itself_o and_o the_o nicene_n definition_n not_o only_o to_o disclaim_v a_o trinity_n of_o person_n in_o one_o divine_a essence_n baptise_v of_o child_n etc._n etc._n but_o every_o tenet_n of_o protestant_a religion_n as_o protestantism_n e._n g._n the_o belief_n of_o two_o sacrament_n only_o etc._n etc._n or_o be_v necessary_a and_o yet_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v in_o scripture_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o this_o shall_v be_v examine_v 1._o first_o all_o the_o nicene_n definition_n trinity_n of_o person_n in_o one_o divine_a essence_n this_o i_o shall_v not_o have_v think_v worthy_a of_o consider_v in_o the_o word_n here_o express_v but_o that_o a_o friend_n 8._o the_o same_o also_o he_o say_v concern_v the_o nicene_n and_o the_o other_o three_o council_n and_o s._n athanasius_n creed_n p._n 8._o it_o seem_v of_o my_o own_o who_o i_o know_v not_o but_o yet_o a_o adversary_n as_o he_o who_o shall_v know_v he_o best_o that_o be_v himself_z assure_v i_o be_v please_v to_o use_v these_o word_n in_o the_o objection_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o gentleman_n will_v be_v much_o to_o seek_v if_o he_o be_v put_v to_o it_o to_o prove_v the_o trinity_n of_o person_n in_o one_o divine_a essence_n to_o be_v a_o express_a nicene_n definition_n and_o therefore_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o as_o a_o instance_n of_o the_o nicene_n definition_n he_o will_v find_v himself_o mistake_v indeed_o at_o nice_a the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n be_v determine_v but_o nothing_o of_o the_o divinity_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o be_v the_o result_n of_o after-council_n but_o whatever_o it_o be_v which_o be_v there_o determine_v i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v not_o determine_v by_o tradition_n but_o by_o scripture_n so_o s._n athanasius_n tell_v we_o of_o the_o faith_n which_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o nicene_n father_n episc._n epist._n ad_fw-la epictet_n corinth_n episc._n it_o be_v the_o faith_n confess_v according_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o speak_v to_o serapion_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n incarnate_a lib._n 3._o ad_fw-la serap_n de_fw-fr spir._n s._n id._n the_o incarnate_a he_o say_v learn_v this_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o the_o document_n you_o find_v in_o they_o be_v sufficient_a and_o write_v against_o samosatenus_fw-la he_o prove_v the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n out_o of_o the_o gospel_n of_o s._n john_n say_v it_o become_v we_o to_o stick_v close_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 7._o theodoret._n l._n 1._o c._n 7._o and_o therefore_o when_o constantine_n the_o emperor_n exhort_v the_o nicene_n father_n to_o concord_n in_o the_o question_n then_o to_o be_v dispute_v they_o be_v divine_a matter_n he_o will_v they_o shall_v be_v end_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n for_n say_v he_o the_o book_n of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o apostle_n 7._o et_fw-la apud_fw-la gelas._n cyzicen_n in_o act_n council_n nicen._n l._n 2._o c._n 7._o as_o also_o the_o oracle_n of_o the_o old_a prophet_n do_v evident_o teach_v we_o what_o we_o be_v to_o think_v of_o the_o deity_n therefore_o all_o seditious_a contention_n be_v lay_v
but_o the_o church_n in_o the_o first_o age_n practise_v otherwise_o and_o the_o greek_n never_o believe_v it_o nor_o be_v all_o the_o latin_a church_n of_o that_o opinion_n as_o shall_v be_v show_v in_o the_o sequel_n the_o second_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n in_o trullo_n command_v observation_n of_o no_o less_o than_o fourscore_o and_o five_o canon_n apostolical_a deliver_v to_o the_o church_n but_o beside_o that_o no_o church_n keep_v they_o there_o be_v not_o many_o who_o believe_v that_o they_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n s._n austin_n say_v that_o the_o communicate_v of_o infant_n be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n but_o neither_o the_o protestant_n nor_o the_o papist_n believe_v he_o in_o that_o particular_a 39_o stromat_n lib._n 1._o lib._n 2._o c._n 39_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n say_v that_o christ_n preach_v but_o one_o year_n s._n irenaeus_n confute_v that_o tradition_n vehement_o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n that_o christ_n be_v about_o 50_o year_n of_o age_n when_o he_o die_v and_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v that_o he_o preach_v almost_o 20_o year_n for_o the_o scripture_n say_v 17._o matth._n 4._o 17._o jesus_n begin_v to_o be_v about_o 30_o year_n old_a 14._o marc._n 1._o 14._o when_o he_o be_v baptize_v and_o present_o after_o he_o begin_v to_o preach_v 23._o luc._n 3._o 23._o now_o this_o story_n of_o the_o great_a age_n of_o christ_n irenaeus_n say_v that_o all_o the_o old_a man_n that_o be_v with_o saint_n john_n the_o disciple_n of_o our_o lord_n say_v that_o s._n john_n do_v deliver_v unto_o they_o nay_o not_o only_o so_o but_o some_o of_o they_o hear_v the_o same_o from_o other_o also_o of_o the_o apostle_n there_o be_v many_o more_o of_o such_o tradition_n the_o day_n will_v fail_v to_o reckon_v all_o the_o unwritten_a mystery_n of_o the_o church_n 29._o cap._n 29._o say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o last_o chapter_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it false_o impute_v to_o s._n basil_n and_o yet_o he_o can_v reckon_v but_o a_o few_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v lose_v and_o of_o those_o that_o remain_v some_o be_v not_o at_o all_o observe_v in_o any_o church_n but_o there_o can_v be_v a_o great_a instance_n of_o the_o vanity_n of_o pretend_v tradition_n than_o the_o collection_n of_o the_o canon_n apostolical_a by_o clement_n fide_fw-la lib._n 1._o c._n 18._o cââh_o fide_fw-la which_o damascen_n reckon_v as_o part_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o be_v equal_a to_o canonical_a write_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o isidore_n hispalensis_n say_v they_o be_v apocryphal_a make_v by_o heretic_n and_o publish_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o apostle_n canon_n apud_fw-la gratian._n do_v 16._o c._n canon_n but_o neither_o the_o father_n nor_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v give_v assent_n to_o they_o and_o yet_o their_o authority_n be_v receive_v by_o many_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n even_o at_o this_o day_n but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o man_n accept_v they_o or_o refuse_v they_o not_o according_a to_o their_o authority_n which_o in_o all_o the_o first_o fifty_o at_o least_o be_v equal_a but_o if_o they_o be_v for_o their_o interest_n than_o they_o be_v apostolical_a if_o against_o they_o than_o they_o be_v interpolate_v and_o apocryphal_a and_o spurious_a and_o heretical_a as_o it_o have_v happen_v in_o the_o five_o canon_n and_o the_o 8â
_n but_o this_o be_v yet_o more_o manifest_a if_o we_o consider_v what_o scripturas_fw-la what_o tract_n 26._o in_o matth._n oportet_fw-la causè_fw-la considerare_fw-la ut_fw-la nec_fw-la omne_fw-la secreta_fw-la quae_fw-la feruntur_fw-la nomine_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la suscipiamus_fw-la propter_fw-la judaeâs_fw-la qui_fw-la fortè_fw-la ad_fw-la destructionem_fw-la veritatis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la nostrarum_fw-la quaedam_fw-la finxerunt_fw-la confirmantes_fw-la dogmata_fw-la falsa_fw-la nec_fw-la omne_fw-la abjiciamus_fw-la quae_fw-la pertinent_a ad_fw-la demonstrationem_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la nostrarum_fw-la magni_fw-la ergo_fw-la viri_fw-la est_fw-la audire_fw-la &_o adimplere_fw-la quod_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la omni_fw-la probate_a quod_fw-la bonum_fw-la est_fw-la tenere_fw-la tamen_fw-la propter_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la quasi_fw-la trapezitae_fw-la inter_fw-la verba_fw-la discernere_fw-la vera_fw-la hobeantur_fw-la a_o falsa_fw-la &_o non_fw-la possunt_fw-la semetipsos_fw-la cautèâ_n seruare_fw-la ut_fw-la verum_fw-la quidem_fw-la teneant_fw-la apud_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la omni_fw-la autem_fw-la specie_fw-la malâ_fw-la abstineant_fw-la nemo_fw-la uti_fw-la dâbât_fw-la ad_fw-la confirmationem_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la libris_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la extra_fw-la canonizatas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la origen_n say_v no_o man_n ought_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o doctrine_n or_o opinion_n to_o use_v book_n which_o be_v not_o canonize_v scripture_n now_o for_o aught_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a many_o tradition_n be_v two_o or_o three_o hundred_o year_n old_a the_o first_o day_n they_o be_v bear_v and_o it_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o reckon_v by_o what_o mean_v the_o father_n come_v or_o may_v come_v to_o admit_v many_o thing_n to_o be_v tradition_n and_o themselves_o be_v not_o sure_a therefore_o they_o make_v rule_n of_o their_o conjecture_n presumption_n and_o sometime_o weak_a arguing_n it_o will_v be_v much_o more_o hard_a for_o we_o to_o tell_v which_o be_v right_a and_o which_o be_v wrong_v who_o have_v nothing_o but_o their_o rule_n which_o be_v then_o but_o conjectural_a and_o be_v since_o prove_v in_o many_o instance_n to_o be_v improbable_a 1._o such_o be_v that_o rule_n of_o s._n austin_n 6._o lib._n 4._o de_fw-la baptis_fw-la contr_n donat._n c._n 24._o etc._n etc._n 6._o whatsoever_o be_v ancient_o receive_v and_o not_o institute_v so_o far_o as_o man_n look_v back_o may_v observe_v by_o posterity_n that_o be_v not_o decree_v by_o council_n may_v most_o right_o be_v believe_v to_o descend_v from_o apostolical_a tradition_n that_o be_v if_o we_o do_v not_o know_v the_o beginning_n of_o a_o universal_a custom_n we_o may_v safe_o conclude_v it_o to_o be_v primitive_a and_o apostolic_a which_o kind_n of_o rule_n be_v something_o like_o what_o a_o witty_a gentleman_n say_v of_o a_o old_a man_n and_o a_o old_a woman_n in_o ireland_n that_o if_o they_o shall_v agree_v to_o say_v that_o they_o be_v adam_n and_o eve_n no_o man_n live_v can_v disprove_v they_o but_o though_o these_o person_n be_v so_o old_a that_o no_o man_n remember_v their_o beginning_n and_o though_o a_o custom_n be_v immemorial_n and_o have_v prevail_v far_o and_o long_o yet_o to_o reduce_v this_o to_o the_o begin_n of_o thing_n may_v be_v presume_v by_o he_o that_o a_o mind_n to_o it_o but_o can_v never_o convince_v he_o that_o have_v not_o and_o it_o be_v certain_a this_o rule_n be_v but_o a_o precarious_a pitiful_a presumption_n since_o every_o ancient_a custom_n that_o any_o succeed_a age_n have_v a_o mind_n to_o continue_v may_v for_o the_o credit_n of_o it_o and_o the_o ignorance_n of_o the_o original_n like_o new_a upstart_n gentleman_n be_v entitle_v to_o a_o honourable_a house_n every_o one_o believe_v the_o commandment_n of_o his_o ancestor_n to_o be_v tradition_n apostolical_a say_v s._n hierom_n and_o that_o these_o come_v in_o by_o private_a authority_n and_o yet_o obtain_v a_o public_a name_n we_o have_v competent_a warranty_n from_o tertullian_n 4._o de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la milit._n c._n 4._o who_o justify_v it_o thus_o far_o do_v you_o not_o think_v it_o lawful_a for_o every_o faithful_a man_n to_o appoint_v what_o ever_o he_o think_v may_v please_v god_n unto_o discipline_n and_o salvation_n and_o from_o whosoever_o the_o tradition_n come_v regard_v not_o the_o author_n but_o the_o authority_n and_o s._n irenaeus_n tell_v lât_fw-la apud_fw-la euseb._n l._n 5._o c._n 26._o gr._n 24._o lât_fw-la that_o the_o variety_n of_o keep_v lend_v which_o put_v in_o strong_o also_o to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n begin_v among_o his_o ancestor_n who_o do_v not_o accurate_o observe_v their_o custom_n who_o by_o a_o certain_a simplicity_n or_o private_a authority_n appoint_v any_o thing_n for_o their_o posterity_n so_o that_o here_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o every_o private_a man_n that_o be_v of_o a_o ancient_a stand_n in_o the_o church_n may_v introduce_v custom_n and_o usage_n which_o himself_o think_v pious_a and_o next_o it_o be_v also_o evident_a that_o when_o these_o custom_n derive_v from_o their_o ancestor_n happen_v to_o continue_v in_o a_o last_a use_n their_o posterity_n be_v very_o apt_a to_o call_v they_o tradition_n apostolical_a according_a to_o rationis_fw-la to_o lib._n de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la militis_fw-la si_fw-mi legem_fw-la nusquam_fw-la reperio_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ut_fw-la traditio_fw-la consuetudini_fw-la morem_fw-la hunc_fw-la dederit_fw-la habitu_fw-la they_o quandóque_fw-la apostoli_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la ex_fw-la interpretatione_n rationis_fw-la tertullian_n who_o confess_v this_o very_a thing_n thus_o thing_n indifferent_a be_v esteem_v useful_a or_o pious_a become_v customary_a and_o then_o come_v for_o reverence_n into_o a_o putative_a and_o usurp_a authority_n but_o they_o
it_o be_v now_o if_o he_o can_v prove_v it_o be_v so_o at_o first_o he_o may_v be_v justify_v but_o else_o at_o no_o hand_n and_o i_o and_o all_o the_o world_n will_v be_v strange_o to_o seek_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n mean_n by_o make_v conformity_n to_o the_o primitive_a church_n a_o note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n if_o be_v now_o as_o it_o be_v be_v the_o rule_n for_o what_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v for_o if_o so_o then_o well_o may_v we_o examine_v the_o primitive_a church_n by_o the_o present_a but_o not_o the_o present_a by_o the_o primitive_a 5._o 5._o 5._o if_o the_o present_a catholic_n church_n be_v infallible_a yet_o we_o be_v not_o much_o the_o near_o unless_o this_o catholic_n church_n can_v be_v consult_v with_o and_o hear_v to_o speak_v not_o then_o neither_o unless_o we_o know_v which_o be_v indeed_o the_o catholic_n church_n there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o scripture_n that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v the_o infallible_a way_n of_o prove_v the_o unwritten_a word_n of_o god_n and_o there_o be_v no_o tradition_n that_o it_o be_v so_o that_o i_o ever_o yet_o hear_v of_o and_o it_o be_v impossible_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o because_o the_o present_a church_n of_o several_a age_n have_v have_v contrary_a tradition_n and_o if_o neither_o be_v why_o shall_v we_o believe_v it_o if_o there_o be_v let_v it_o be_v show_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v something_o strange_a that_o the_o infallibility_n of_o a_o church_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v every_o particular_a tradition_n and_o yet_o itself_o be_v one_o of_o those_o particular_a tradition_n which_o prove_v itself_o but_o there_o be_v a_o better_a way_n vincentius_n lerinensis_n his_o way_n of_o judge_v a_o traditional_a doctrine_n to_o be_v apostolical_a and_o divine_a be_v the_o consent_n of_o all_o church_n and_o all_o age_n it_o be_v something_o less_o that_o s._n austin_n require_v 8._o lib._n 2._o the_o doct_n christiana_n c._n 8._o ecclesiarum_fw-la catholicarum_fw-la quamplurimùm_fw-la sequatur_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la inter_fw-la quas_fw-la sane_fw-la illae_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la apostolicas_fw-la sedes_fw-la habere_fw-la &_o epistolas_fw-la accipere_fw-la meruerunt_fw-la he_o speak_v it_o of_o the_o particular_a of_o judge_v what_o book_n be_v canonical_a in_o which_o as_o tradition_n be_v the_o way_n to_o judge_v so_o the_o rule_n of_o tradition_n be_v the_o consent_n of_o most_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n particular_o those_o place_n where_o the_o apostle_n do_v sit_v and_o to_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v write_v but_o this_o fancy_n of_o s._n augustine_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v so_o as_o not_o to_o be_v measure_v by_o the_o practice_n but_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n for_o that_o any_o or_o more_o of_o these_o church_n do_v or_o do_v not_o do_v so_o be_v no_o argument_n that_o such_o a_o custom_n come_v from_o the_o apostle_n or_o if_o it_o do_v that_o it_o do_v oblige_v succeed_v age_n unless_o this_o custom_n begin_v by_o a_o doctrine_n and_o that_o the_o tradition_n come_v from_o the_o apostle_n with_o a_o declaration_n of_o its_o perpetual_a obligation_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v only_o of_o use_n in_o matter_n of_o necessary_a doctrine_n but_o because_o there_o be_v in_o this_o question_n many_o differ_a degree_n of_o authority_n he_o say_v that_o our_o assent_n be_v to_o be_v give_v according_o those_o which_o be_v receive_v of_o all_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o those_o which_o be_v not_o receive_v by_o all_o and_o of_o these_o those_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v which_o have_v the_o more_o and_o the_o grave_a testimony_n but_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v which_o yet_o be_v not_o that_o some_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o more_o and_o other_o by_o the_o grave_a let_v the_o assent_n be_v equal_a this_o indeed_o be_v a_o good_a way_n to_o know_v nothing_o for_o if_o one_o apostolical_a church_n differ_v from_o another_o in_o a_o doctrinal_a tradition_n no_o man_n can_v tell_v who_o to_o follow_v for_o they_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n and_o nothing_o can_v be_v thence_o prove_v but_o that_o oral_a tradition_n be_v a_o uncertain_a way_n of_o convey_v a_o doctrine_n but_o yet_o this_o way_n of_o s._n austin_n be_v of_o great_a and_o approve_a use_n in_o the_o know_v what_o book_n be_v canonical_a and_o in_o these_o thing_n it_o can_v be_v have_v in_o some_o more_o in_o some_o less_o in_o all_o more_o than_o can_v be_v say_v against_o it_o and_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o succeed_a time_n to_o give_v a_o check_n to_o our_o assent_n in_o their_o degree_n because_o the_o long_o the_o succession_n run_v still_o the_o more_o the_o church_n be_v establish_v in_o it_o but_o yet_o concern_v those_o book_n of_o scripture_n of_o which_o it_o be_v long_o doubt_v in_o the_o church_n whether_o they_o be_v part_n of_o the_o apostolical_a canon_n of_o scripture_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o pretence_n that_o they_o be_v deliver_v for_o such_o by_o the_o apostle_n at_o least_o not_o by_o those_o church_n who_o doubt_v of_o they_o unless_o they_o will_v confess_v that_o either_o their_o church_n be_v not_o found_v by_o a_o apostle_n or_o that_o the_o apostle_n who_o found_v they_o be_v not_o faithful_a in_o his_o office_n in_o transmit_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a or_o else_o that_o those_o book_n particular_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n etc._n etc._n be_v no_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n or_o else_o last_o that_o that_o church_n be_v no_o faithful_a keeper_n of_o the_o tradition_n which_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n all_o which_o thing_n because_o they_o will_v be_v deny_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n concern_v themselves_o the_o consequent_a will_v be_v that_o tradition_n be_v a_o uncertain_a thing_n &_o if_o it_o can_v be_v entire_a and_o full_a in_o assign_v the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n it_o be_v hardly_o to_o be_v trust_v for_o any_o thing_n else_o which_o consist_v of_o word_n subject_a to_o divers_a interpretation_n but_o in_o other_o thing_n it_o may_v be_v the_o case_n be_v not_o so_o for_o we_o find_v that_o in_o divers_a particular_n to_o prove_v a_o point_n to_o be_v a_o tradition_n apostolical_a use_n be_v make_v of_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o three_o first_o age_n indeed_o these_o be_v the_o like_a to_o know_v but_o yet_o they_o have_v tell_v we_o of_o some_o thing_n to_o be_v tradition_n which_o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o believe_v to_o be_v such_o only_o thus_o far_o they_o be_v useful_a if_o they_o never_o report_v a_o doctrine_n it_o be_v the_o less_o likely_a to_o descend_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o if_o the_o order_n of_o succession_n be_v break_v any_o where_o the_o succeed_a age_n can_v never_o be_v sure_a if_o they_o speak_v against_o a_o doctrine_n as_o for_o example_n against_o the_o half-communion_n we_o be_v sure_a it_o be_v no_o tradition_n apostolical_a if_o they_o speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o it_o we_o can_v never_o prove_v the_o tradition_n for_o it_o may_v have_v come_v in_o since_o that_o time_n and_o yet_o come_v to_o be_v think_v or_o call_v tradition_n apostolical_a from_o other_o cause_n of_o which_o i_o have_v give_v account_n and_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o security_n sufficient_a but_o that_o which_o can_v never_o be_v have_v and_o that_o be_v the_o universal_a positive_a testimony_n of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o that_o look_v for_o in_o the_o dispute_v tradition_n pretend_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v look_v as_o long_o as_o the_o jew_n do_v for_o their_o wrong_a messiah_n so_o much_o as_o this_o be_v can_v never_o be_v have_v and_o less_o than_o this_o will_v never_o do_v it_o i_o will_v give_v one_o considerable_a instance_n of_o this_o affair_n the_o patron_n of_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o immaculate_a conception_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin-mother_n 5._o salmeron_n disp_n 51._o in_o rom._n 5._o allege_v that_o they_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o almost_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o the_o agree_a sentence_n of_o all_o university_n especial_o of_o the_o chief_a that_o be_v of_o paris_n where_o no_o man_n be_v admit_v to_o be_v master_n in_o theology_n unless_o he_o bind_v himself_o by_o oath_n to_o maintain_v that_o doctrine_n they_o allege_v that_o since_o this_o question_n begin_v to_o be_v dispute_v almost_o all_o the_o master_n in_o theology_n all_o the_o preacher_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n all_o king_n and_o prince_n republic_n and_o people_n all_o pope_n and_o pastor_n and_o religion_n except_o a_o part_n of_o one_o consent_v in_o this_o doctrine_n they_o say_v that_o of_o those_o author_n which_o be_v by_o the_o other_o side_n pretend_v against_o it_o some_o be_v false_o cite_v other_o be_v wrest_a and_o bring_v in_o against_o their_o
ambiguous_a or_o obscure_a in_o case_n any_o brother_n be_v a_o doctor_n endue_v with_o the_o grace_n of_o knowledge_n but_o be_v curious_a with_o yourself_o and_o seek_v with_o yourself_o but_o at_o length_n it_o be_v better_a for_o you_o to_o be_v ignorant_a lest_o you_o come_v to_o know_v what_o you_o ought_v not_o for_o you_o already_o know_v what_o you_o ought_v faith_n consist_v in_o the_o rule_n veland_n lib._n the_o veland_n to_o know_v nothing_o beyond_o this_o be_v to_o know_v all_o thing_n irreformabilis_fw-la virg._n c._n 1._o regula_n quidem_fw-la fidei_fw-la una_fw-la âmnino_fw-la est_fw-la sola_fw-la immobilis_fw-la &_o irreformabilis_fw-la to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o affirm_v that_o this_o rule_n be_v unalterable_a be_v immovable_a and_o irreformable_a it_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o it_o be_v one_o unchangeable_o the_o same_o which_o when_o he_o have_v say_v he_o again_o recite_v the_o apostle_n creed_n â_o lib._n the_o veland_n virg._n c._n â_o he_o call_v it_o legem_fw-la fidei_fw-la this_o law_n of_o faith_n remain_v in_o other_o thing_n of_o discipline_n and_o conversation_n the_o grace_n of_o god_n may_v thrust_v we_o forward_o and_o they_o may_v be_v correct_v and_o renew_v but_o the_o faith_n can_v be_v alter_v there_o be_v neither_o more_o nor_o less_o in_o that_o and_o it_o be_v of_o great_a remark_n what_o account_n tertullian_n give_v of_o the_o state_n of_o all_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o particular_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o his_o time_n that_o church_n be_v in_o a_o happy_a state_n into_o which_o the_o apostle_n with_o their_o blood_n pour_v forth_o all_o their_o doctrine_n 36._o de_fw-fr prescript_n c._n 36._o let_v we_o see_v what_o she_o say_v what_o she_o teach_v what_o she_o publish_v in_o conjunction_n with_o the_o african_a church_n she_o know_v one_o god_n the_o creator_n of_o the_o world_n and_o jesus_n christ_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o creator_n and_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n she_o mingle_v the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n with_o the_o evangelical_n and_o apostolical_a writing_n and_o from_o thence_o she_o drink_v that_o faith_n she_o sing_v with_o water_n she_o clothes_v with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n she_o feed_v with_o the_o eucharist_n she_o exhort_v to_o martyrdom_n and_o against_o this_o institution_n receive_v none_o this_o indeed_o be_v a_o happy_a state_n and_o if_o in_o this_o she_o will_v abide_v her_o happiness_n have_v be_v as_o unalterable_a as_o her_o faith_n but_o from_o this_o how_o much_o she_o have_v degenerate_v will_v too_o much_o appear_v in_o the_o order_n of_o this_o discourse_n in_o the_o confession_n of_o this_o creed_n the_o church_n of_o god_n baptize_v all_o her_o catechuman_n to_o who_o in_o the_o profession_n of_o that_o faith_n they_o consign_v all_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o gospel_n finem_fw-la s._n hilar._n l._n 10._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la vers_fw-la finem_fw-la for_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o belief_n of_o a_o christian_a be_v the_o pure_a simple_a thing_n in_o the_o world_n in_o simplicitate_fw-la fides_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la fide_fw-la justitia_fw-la est_fw-la in_o confession_n pietas_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la deus_fw-la nos_fw-la ad_fw-la beatam_fw-la vitam_fw-la per_fw-la difficiles_fw-la quaestiones_fw-la vocat_fw-la nec_fw-la multiplici_fw-la eloquentis_fw-la facundiae_fw-la genere_fw-la sollicitat_fw-la in_fw-la absoluto_fw-la nobis_fw-la ac_fw-la facili_fw-la est_fw-la aeternitas_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la credimus_fw-la suscitatum_fw-la à _fw-la mortuis_fw-la per_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o ipsum_fw-la esse_fw-la dominum_fw-la confitemur_fw-la this_o be_v the_o breviary_n of_o the_o christian_a creed_n and_o this_o be_v the_o way_n of_o salvation_n synodis_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr synodis_fw-la say_v s._n hilary_n but_o speak_v more_o explicit_o to_o the_o church_n of_o france_n and_o germany_n he_o call_v they_o happy_a and_o glorious_a qui_fw-la perfectam_fw-la atque_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la fidem_fw-la conscientiâ_fw-la &_o professione_n dei_fw-la retinentes_fw-la conscriptas_fw-la fides_fw-la hûc_fw-la usque_fw-la nescitis_fw-la because_o they_o keep_v the_o apostolical_a belief_n for_o that_o be_v perfect_a thus_o the_o church_n remain_v in_o the_o purity_n and_o innocent_a simplicity_n of_o the_o faith_n there_o be_v no_o way_n of_o confute_v heretic_n but_o by_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n or_o by_o appeal_n to_o the_o tradition_n of_o this_o faith_n in_o the_o apostolical_a form_n and_o there_o be_v no_o change_n make_v till_o the_o time_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n but_o then_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o first_o simplicity_n begin_v to_o fall_v away_o and_o some_o new_a thing_n to_o be_v introduce_v into_o the_o christian_a creed_n true_a it_o be_v that_o then_o christianity_n be_v in_o one_o complexion_n with_o the_o empire_n and_o the_o division_n of_o heart_n by_o a_o different_a opinion_n be_v likely_a to_o have_v influence_n upon_o the_o public_a peace_n if_o it_o be_v not_o compose_v by_o peaceable_a consent_n or_o prevail_a authority_n and_o therefore_o the_o father_n there_o assemble_v together_o with_o the_o emperor_n power_n do_v give_v such_o a_o period_n to_o their_o question_n as_o they_o can_v but_o as_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o they_o at_o their_o meeting_n recite_v any_o other_o creed_n than_o the_o apostolical_a for_o that_o they_o do_v not_o papam_fw-la in_o antidoto_fw-la ad_fw-la nicolaum_n 5._o papam_fw-la laurentius_n valla_n a_o canon_n in_o the_o lateran_n church_n affirm_v that_o himself_o have_v read_v in_o the_o ancient_a book_n of_o isidore_n who_o collect_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o ancient_a council_n certain_a it_o be_v the_o father_n believe_v it_o to_o be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o apostolical_a faith_n and_o the_o few_o word_n they_o add_v to_o the_o old_a form_n be_v nothing_o new_a but_o a_o few_o more_o explicate_v word_n of_o the_o same_o sense_n intend_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n as_o at_o that_o time_n the_o church_n do_v remember_v by_o the_o successive_a preach_n and_o write_v record_n which_o they_o have_v and_o we_o have_v not_o but_o especial_o by_o scripture_n but_o the_o change_n be_v so_o little_a or_o indeed_o so_o none_o as_o to_o the_o matter_n that_o they_o affirm_v of_o it_o ãâã_d epiphan_n in_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d this_o be_v the_o creed_n deliver_v by_o the_o holy_a apostle_n and_o in_o the_o old_a latin_a missal_n publish_v at_o strasburgh_n an._n dom._n 1557._o after_o the_o recitation_n of_o the_o nicene_n creed_n as_o we_o usual_o call_v it_o it_o be_v add_v in_o the_o rubric_n finito_fw-la symbolo_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la dicat_fw-la sacerdos_n dominus_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la so_o that_o it_o shall_v seem_v the_o nicene_n father_n use_v no_o other_o creed_n than_o what_o themselves_o think_v to_o be_v the_o apostolical_a and_o this_o be_v the_o more_o credible_a because_o we_o find_v that_o some_o other_o copy_n of_o the_o apostle_n creed_n particular_o that_o which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o aquileia_n have_v divers_a word_n and_o amplification_n of_o some_o one_o article_n as_o to_o the_o article_n of_o god_n the_o father_n almighty_n maker_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v add_v invisible_a and_o impassable_a which_o though_o the_o word_n be_v set_v down_o there_o because_o of_o the_o sabellian_n heresy_n yet_o they_o say_v nothing_o new_a but_o what_o to_o every_o man_n of_o reason_n be_v include_v in_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o god_n and_o so_o be_v the_o addition_n of_o nice_a concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n include_v in_o the_o very_a natural_a filiation_n express_v in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n and_o therefore_o this_o nicene_n creed_n be_v no_o more_o a_o new_a creed_n than_o be_v that_o of_o aquileia_n which_o although_o it_o be_v not_o in_o every_o word_n like_o the_o roman_a symbol_n yet_o it_o be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o apostolical_a and_o the_o same_o be_v the_o case_n even_o of_o those_o symbol_n where_o something_o be_v omit_v that_o be_v sufficient_o in_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o other_o article_n thus_o in_o some_o creed_n christ_n death_n be_v omit_v but_o his_o crucifixion_n and_o burial_n be_v set_v down_o the_o same_o variety_n also_o be_v observable_a in_o the_o article_n of_o christ_n descent_n into_o hell_n which_o as_o it_o be_v omit_v in_o that_o form_n of_o the_o apostolical_a creed_n which_o i_o be_o now_o say_v be_v use_v by_o the_o nicene_n father_n so_o be_v it_o omit_v in_o the_o six_o several_a recitation_n and_o exposition_n of_o it_o make_v by_o chrysologus_fw-la and_o in_o the_o five_o exposition_n make_v of_o it_o by_o s._n austin_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o symbolo_fw-la and_o in_o his_o four_o book_n de_fw-fr symbolo_fw-la ad_fw-la catechumenos_fw-la and_o divers_a other_o so_o the_o article_n of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n which_o be_v neither_o in_o the_o nicene_n nor_o constantinopolitan_a creed_n nor_o
yet_o they_o be_v both_o in_o the_o index_n and_o the_o text_n of_o s._n hierom._n 69._o in_o epist._n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 10._o haeres_fw-la 69._o so_o the_o gloss_n of_o epiphanius_n of_o creaturam_fw-la non_fw-la adorare_fw-la be_v command_v to_o be_v blot_v out_o when_o the_o word_n of_o epiphanius_n text_n be_v sancta_fw-la dei_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la creaturam_fw-la non_fw-la adorat_fw-la and_o it_o be_v so_o in_o other_o place_n of_o which_o the_o indices_fw-la themselves_z be_v the_o best_a testimony_n and_o that_o no_o man_n may_v question_v whether_o they_o purge_v the_o father_n yea_o or_o no_o sixtus_n senensis_n say_v it_o to_o pius_fw-la quintus_fw-la deinde_fw-la expurgari_fw-la &_o emaculari_fw-la curasti_fw-la omne_fw-la catholicorum_n scriptorum_fw-la ac_fw-la praecipuè_fw-la veterum_fw-la patrum_fw-la scripta_fw-la especial_o the_o write_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v purge_v now_o true_a it_o be_v that_o in_o the_o follow_a word_n he_o pretend_v a_o reason_n why_o he_o do_v so_o and_o tell_v what_o thing_n be_v purge_v even_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v infect_v and_o poison_a by_o the_o heretic_n of_o our_o age_n these_o last_o word_n and_o this_o reason_n be_v not_o cite_v in_o the_o first_o part_n when_o the_o former_a word_n be_v make_v use_n of_o and_o therefore_o a_o outcry_n be_v raise_v by_o they_o that_o write_v against_o it_o 7._o it_o f._n w._n p._n 12._o and_o the_o author_n of_o a_o let._n pag._n 7._o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v conceal_v by_o fraudulent_a design_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o interrupt_v the_o order_n of_o my_o discourse_n with_o quote_v word_n which_o be_v neither_o true_a nor_o pertinent_a for_o they_o have_v in_o they_o no_o truth_n and_o no_o good_a meaning_n they_o be_v protestatio_fw-la contra_fw-la factum_fw-la as_o be_v set_v there_o to_o persuade_v the_o world_n that_o none_o of_o the_o father_n or_o modern_a catholic_n be_v purge_v unless_o the_o lutheran_n have_v corrupt_v they_o when_o all_o the_o world_n know_v they_o have_v purge_v the_o write_n of_o the_o catholic_n old_a and_o new_a father_n and_o modern_n which_o themselves_o have_v print_v and_o former_o allow_v but_o now_o be_v wise_a and_o find_v they_o to_o give_v too_o much_o evidence_n against_o they_o they_o have_v alter_v they_o i_o can_v instance_n in_o many_o but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v since_o enough_o may_v be_v see_v in_o doctor_n james_n his_o table_n of_o book_n which_o be_v first_o set_v forth_o and_o approve_v and_o afterward_o censure_v by_o themselves_o i_o shall_v trouble_v my_o reader_n but_o with_o one_o instance_n that_o one_o be_v the_o work_n of_o ferus_fw-la upon_o s._n john_n first_o epistle_n which_o be_v print_v at_o antwerp_n 1556._o with_o the_o privilege_n give_v by_o king_n philip_n to_o martinus_n nutius_n with_o this_o elegy_n nam_fw-la suae_fw-la majestati_fw-la patuit_fw-la librum_fw-la esse_fw-la omnino_fw-la utilem_fw-la &_o nihil_fw-la continere_fw-la quod_fw-la pias_fw-la aures_fw-la meritò_fw-la offendere_fw-la possit_fw-la the_o same_o book_n be_v print_v at_o paris_n 1555._o by_o the_o marnet_n and_o 1556._o by_o audoën_n petit_n or_o parvus_fw-la at_o lion_n 1559._o by_o jacobus_n de_fw-fr mellis_n and_o the_o same_o year_n at_o louvain_n by_o servatius_n sessenus_n and_o at_o mentz_n where_o he_o be_v preacher_n by_o francis_n behem_n and_o after_o all_o this_o it_o be_v print_v at_o paris_n 1563._o by_o gabriel_n buon_n and_o at_o antwerp_n 1565._o by_o the_o heir_n of_o nutius_n now_o all_o these_o edition_n be_v make_v by_o the_o papist_n and_o allow_v of_o and_o no_o protestant_n no_o heretic_n of_o that_o age_n that_o i_o may_v use_v the_o word_n of_o senensis_n have_v corrupt_v they_o neither_o be_v it_o pretend_v that_o they_o do_v and_o yet_o this_o book_n be_v purge_v at_o rome_n 1577._o and_o alter_v add_v and_o detract_v in_o 194._o place_n of_o the_o nature_n and_o consequence_n of_o which_o alteration_n i_o give_v this_o one_o instance_n in_o the_o second_o chapter_n where_o ferus_fw-la in_o the_o old_a edition_n of_o mentz_n louvain_n antwerp_n etc._n etc._n have_v these_o word_n scriptura_fw-la sacra_fw-la data_fw-la est_fw-la nobis_fw-la ceu_fw-la certa_fw-la quaedam_fw-la regula_fw-la christianae_n doctrinae_fw-la but_o in_o the_o roman_a edition_n 1577._o the_o word_n be_v change_v thus_o sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la &_o traditio_fw-la nobis_fw-la data_fw-la sunt_fw-la ceu_fw-la certa_fw-la quaedam_fw-la regula_fw-la christiadae_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la by_o which_o instance_n it_o plain_o appear_v that_o the_o inquisitor_n general_n and_o the_o pope_n purge_v other_o than_o what_o the_o heretic_n have_v corrupt_v and_o that_o these_o word_n of_o sixtus_n senensis_n be_v but_o a_o false_a cover_n to_o a_o foul_a dish_n when_o they_o can_v no_o long_o hide_v it_o nay_o even_o the_o rule_n give_v by_o the_o pope_n himself_o clement_n the_o viii_o the_o give_v order_n for_o prohibit_v the_o book_n of_o the_o catholic_n 6._o reg._n 6._o before_o they_o be_v purge_v si_fw-mi nonnulla_fw-la contineant_fw-la quae_fw-la sine_fw-la delectu_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la legi_fw-la non_fw-la expedit_fw-la and_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o the_o sandoval_n index_n it_o be_v say_v obiter_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o quorundam_fw-la orthodoxorum_fw-la libris_fw-la nonnulli_fw-la lapsus_fw-la aut_fw-la quaedam_fw-la obscurius_fw-la dicta_fw-la deprehensa_fw-la quibus_fw-la expurgatio_fw-la explicatio_fw-la aut_fw-la cautio_fw-la prudenter_fw-la adhibita_fw-la ne_fw-la minus_fw-la cautos_fw-la lectores_fw-la contingat_fw-la impingere_fw-la which_o be_v a_o plain_a indication_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n proceed_v in_o her_o purge_n of_o book_n upon_o other_o account_n than_o remove_v the_o corruption_n late_o introduce_v by_o the_o lutheran_n or_o calvinist_n and_o all_o this_o and_o much_o more_o be_v evident_a and_o notorious_a there_o be_v reason_n then_o to_o think_v as_o i_o do_v still_o that_o those_o word_n be_v of_o no_o use_n to_o be_v add_v unless_o to_o give_v occasion_n of_o impertinent_a wrangle_n but_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o other_o design_n in_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o what_o i_o have_v now_o say_v 3._o but_o the_o expurgatory_n indices_fw-la have_v the_o less_o need_n to_o do_v much_o of_o this_o since_o their_o work_n be_v do_v to_o their_o hand_n for_o the_o father_n work_n have_v pass_v though_o fire_n ordeal_o w._n by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n and_o e._n w._n many_o time_n before_o i_o instanced_a in_o the_o edition_n of_o s._n ambrose_n by_o ludovicus_n saurius_fw-la wherein_o many_o line_n be_v cancellate_v and_o the_o edition_n spoil_v and_o this_o be_v do_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o two_o franciscan_n belgic_a junius_n in_o praefat_fw-la ad_fw-la ind._n expurg_n belgic_a qui_fw-la pro_fw-la authoritate_fw-la have_v omnes_fw-la paginas_fw-la dispunxerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la vides_fw-la &_o illas_fw-la substitui_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la priorum_fw-la curaverunt_fw-la praeter_fw-la omnem_fw-la librorum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la fidem_fw-la say_fw-la saurius_fw-la against_o this_o it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o slander_n because_o the_o index_n expurgatorius_fw-la be_v not_o appoint_v till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o be_v an._n dom._n 1563._o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o put_v a_o force_n upon_o saurius_fw-la who_o correct_v this_o book_n and_o assist_v at_o the_o edition_n of_o it_o 1559._o to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o the_o index_n expurgatorius_fw-la put_v a_o force_n upon_o saurius_fw-la but_o only_o a_o force_n be_v put_v upon_o he_o and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o by_o two_o franciscan_n jnnius_n who_o tell_v the_o story_n do_v affirm_v 2._o for_o aught_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a nay_o most_o probable_a it_o be_v so_o that_o this_o force_n be_v put_v upon_o he_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o expurgatorius_fw-la index_n for_o though_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n appoint_v one_o a_o little_a before_o its_o end_n which_o be_v in_o 1563_o yet_o there_o be_v a_o index_n make_v before_o that_o by_o p._n paul_n the_o four_o who_o die_v four_o year_n before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o council_n and_o this_o he_o make_v by_o the_o council_n of_o all_o the_o inquisitor_n quarto_fw-la council_n trident._n in_o primâ_fw-la sessione_n sub_fw-la pio_n quarto_fw-la and_o of_o many_o famous_a man_n who_o send_v he_o advice_n from_o all_o part_n and_o he_o make_v a_o most_o complete_a catalogue_n to_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v add_v except_o some_o book_n come_v forth_o within_o two_o year_n say_v friar_n augustin_n selvago_n archbishop_n of_o genua_n so_o that_o here_o be_v authority_n enough_o and_o there_o want_v no_o zeal_n and_o here_o be_v matter_n of_o fact_n complain_v of_o by_o the_o party_n suffer_v 4._o it_o will_v indeed_o have_v be_v matter_n of_o great_a scandal_n and_o reproach_n to_o have_v open_o handle_v all_o the_o father_n indifferent_o as_o they_o use_v the_o modern_n and_o though_o as_o i_o have_v prove_v this_o do_v not_o whole_o
restrain_v they_o yet_o it_o abate_v much_o of_o their_o willingness_n but_o there_o be_v less_o need_n of_o it_o because_o they_o have_v very_o well_o purge_v they_o before_o by_o cancellate_v the_o line_n by_o part_v the_o page_n by_o corrupt_v their_o write_n by_o put_v gloss_n in_o the_o margin_n and_o afterward_o put_v these_o gloss_n into_o the_o text._n quod_fw-la lector_n ineptiens_fw-la annotârat_fw-la in_o margin_n svi_fw-la codicis_fw-la scribae_fw-la retulerunt_fw-la in_o contextum_fw-la say_v erasmus_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o work_n of_o s._n austin_n to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o toledo_n and_o the_o same_o also_o be_v observe_v by_o the_o paris-overseer_n of_o the_o press_n in_o their_o preface_n to_o their_o edition_n of_o s._n augustine_n work_n at_o paris_n 1571._o by_o martin_n and_o nivellius_n and_o this_o thing_n be_v notorious_a in_o a_o considerable_a instance_n in_o s._n cyprian_n librum_fw-la cyprian_n vide_fw-la pamelii_n annot_fw-mi in_o librum_fw-la de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la where_o after_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n speak_v to_o s._n peter_n and_o record_v by_o s._n matthew_n there_o have_v be_v a_o marginal_a note_n hîc_fw-la petro_n primatus_fw-la datur_fw-la which_o word_n they_o have_v bring_v into_o the_o roman_a and_o antwerp_n edition_n but_o they_o have_v both_o leave_v out_o hîc_fw-la and_o the_o roman_a instead_o of_o it_o have_v put_v et._n and_o whereas_o in_o the_o old_a edition_n of_o cyprian_a even_o the_o roman_n itself_o these_o word_n be_v he_o who_o withstand_v and_o resist_v the_o church_n do_v he_o trust_v himself_o to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n some_o body_n have_v make_v bold_a to_o put_v the_o word_n thus_o in_o the_o text_n of_o the_o edition_n of_o antwerp_n he_o who_o forsake_v peter_n chair_n on_o which_o the_o church_n be_v found_v do_v he_o trust_v himself_o to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n but_o in_o how_o many_o place_n that_o excellent_a book_n of_o s._n cyprian_n be_v interline_v and_o spoil_v by_o the_o new_a corrector_n be_v evident_a to_o he_o that_o shall_v compare_v the_o roman_a edition_n with_o the_o elder_a copy_n and_o they_o with_o the_o late_a edition_n of_o antwerp_n and_o pamelius_n himself_o concern_v some_o word_n say_v ibid._n ibid._n atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la non_fw-la sumus_fw-la veriti_fw-la in_o textum_fw-la inserere_fw-la i_o can_v bring_v in_o many_o considerable_a instance_n though_o it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a that_o of_o forty_o falsity_n in_o the_o abuse_n the_o father_n write_n by_o roman_a hand_n there_o be_v not_o perhaps_o above_o one_o or_o two_o discovery_n yet_o this_o and_o many_o other_o concurrence_n may_v make_v it_o less_o needful_a to_o pass_v their_o sponge_n upon_o the_o father_n but_o when_o the_o whole_a charge_n of_o print_v of_o book_n at_o rome_n lie_v on_o the_o apostolical_a see_v as_o gorseium_n as_o epist._n l._n 9_o ad_fw-la jacobum_fw-la gorseium_n manutius_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v likely_a enough_o that_o all_o shall_v be_v take_v care_n of_o so_o as_o shall_v serve_v their_o purpose_n and_o so_o the_o printer_n tell_v we_o viz._n câncilio_n in_o praef._n ad_fw-la pium_fw-la quartm_n in_o librum_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la poli_fw-fr de_fw-fr câncilio_n that_o such_o care_n be_v take_v to_o have_v they_o so_o correct_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o spot_n which_o may_v infect_v the_o mind_n of_o the_o simple_a with_o the_o show_n or_o likeness_n of_o false_a doctrine_n and_o now_o by_o this_o we_o may_v very_o well_o perceive_v how_o the_o force_n be_v put_v upon_o saurius_fw-la in_o the_o purge_n s._n ambrose_n even_o by_o the_o inquisitor_n and_o that_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o care_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o therefore_o though_o the_o work_n of_o most_o of_o the_o great_a father_n be_v not_o put_v into_o the_o expurgatory_n indices_fw-la yet_o they_o be_v otherwise_o purge_v that_o be_v most_o shameful_o corrupt_v tear_v and_o maim_v and_o the_o lesser_a father_n pass_v under_o the_o file_n in_o the_o expurgatory_n indices_fw-la themselves_o 3._o but_o then_o 20._o the_o author_n of_o a_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n pag_n 7._o e._n w._n p._n 20._o that_o they_o purge_v the_o indices_fw-la of_o the_o father_n work_n be_v so_o notorious_a that_o it_o be_v confess_v and_o endeavour_v to_o be_v justify_v but_o when_o we_o come_v to_o consider_v that_o many_o time_n the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o father_n which_o be_v put_v into_o the_o index_n be_v command_v to_o be_v expunge_v it_o at_o once_o show_v that_o fain_o they_o will_v and_o yet_o dare_v not_o expunge_v the_o word_n out_o of_o the_o book_n since_o they_o will_v be_v discover_v by_o their_o adversary_n and_o they_o will_v suffer_v reproach_n without_o do_v any_o good_a to_o themselves_o now_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v that_o therefore_o the_o word_n of_o the_o father_n be_v blot_v out_o of_o the_o indices_fw-la 1â_n e._n w._n p._n 1â_n because_o they_o be_v set_v down_o without_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_n and_o prepare_v the_o reader_n to_o a_o ill_a sense_n this_o might_n be_v possible_a but_o we_o see_v it_o otherwise_o in_o the_o instance_n themselves_o which_o oftentimes_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o no_o context_n no_o circumstance_n can_v alter_v the_o proposition_n which_o be_v most_o of_o all_o notorious_a in_o the_o deleatur_n of_o the_o indices_fw-la of_o the_o bible_n set_v forth_o by_o robert_n stephen_n credens_fw-fr christo_fw-la non_fw-la morietur_fw-la in_o aeternum_fw-la this_o be_v to_o be_v blot_v out_o 26._o joh._n 11._o 26._o and_o yet_o christ_n himself_o say_v it_o every_o one_o that_o live_v and_o believe_v in_o i_o shall_v never_o die_v justus_n coram_fw-la deo_fw-la nemo_fw-la be_v to_o be_v blot_v out_o of_o robert_n stephen_n index_n 143._o psal._n 142._o v._o 1._o alius_fw-la 143._o and_o yet_o david_n pray_v enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n with_o thy_o servant_n o_o lord_n for_o in_o thy_o sight_n shall_v no_o man_n live_v be_v justify_v now_o what_o antecedent_n or_o what_o context_n or_o what_o circumstance_n can_v alter_v the_o sense_n of_o these_o place_n which_o be_v the_o same_o in_o the_o text_n and_o the_o index_n show_v the_o good_a will_n of_o the_o inquisitor_n and_o that_o like_a king_n edward_n the_o 6_o his_o tutor_n they_o correct_v the_o prince_n upon_o his_o page_n back_n and_o they_o have_v give_v sufficient_a warn_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o those_o word_n wherever_o they_o find_v they_o in_o the_o father_n since_o they_o have_v so_o open_o rebuke_v they_o in_o the_o indices_fw-la and_o therefore_o i_o make_v no_o distinction_n of_o place_n but_o reckon_v those_o word_n censure_v in_o the_o expurgatory_n table_n as_o the_o father_n word_n censure_v or_o expunge_v and_o in_o this_o i_o follow_v the_o style_n of_o their_o own_o book_n for_o in_o the_o belgic_a index_n the_o style_n be_v thus_o in_o hieronymi_n operibus_fw-la expungenda_fw-la 1611._o pag._n 70._o edit_fw-la 1611._o quae_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la and_o yet_o they_o be_v the_o scholia_fw-la indices_fw-la and_o sense_n of_o the_o father_n set_v down_o and_o print_v in_o the_o same_o volume_n altogether_o and_o have_v the_o same_o fate_n and_o all_o upon_o the_o same_o account_n i_o have_v reason_n to_o charge_v it_o as_o i_o do_v and_o how_o far_o the_o evil_n of_o this_o do_v proceed_v may_v easy_o be_v conjecture_v by_o what_o be_v do_v by_o the_o inquisition_n in_o the_o year_n 1559._o in_o which_o there_o be_v a_o catalogue_n of_o 62_o printer_n and_o all_o the_o book_n which_o any_o of_o they_o print_v of_o what_o author_n or_o what_o language_n soever_o prohibit_v and_o all_o book_n which_o be_v print_v by_o printer_n that_o have_v print_v any_o book_n of_o heretic_n insomuch_o that_o not_o only_a book_n of_o a_o hundred_o two_o hundred_o three_o hundred_o year_n ago_o and_o approbation_n be_v prohibit_v but_o there_o scarce_o remain_v a_o book_n to_o be_v read_v but_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o impose_v upon_o man_n faith_n and_o conscience_n suffer_v they_o to_o allow_v of_o nothing_o in_o any_o man_n no_o not_o in_o the_o father_n but_o what_o themselves_o mark_v out_o for_o they_o not_o measure_v their_o own_o doctrine_n by_o the_o ancient_n but_o reckon_v their_o say_n to_o be_v or_o not_o to_o be_v catholic_n according_a as_o they_o agree_v to_o their_o present_a opinion_n which_o be_v infinite_o against_o the_o candour_n ingenuity_n and_o confidence_n of_o truth_n which_o need_v none_o of_o these_o art_n and_o beside_o all_o this_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v possible_a to_o find_v out_o tradition_n by_o succession_n when_o they_o so_o interrupt_v and_o break_v the_o intermedial_a line_n and_o this_o be_v beyond_o all_o the_o forego_n instance_n very_o remarkable_a in_o their_o purge_n of_o history_n in_o munster_n cosmography_n there_o be_v a_o long_a story_n of_o ludovicus_n the_o emperor_n of_o the_o house_n of_o bavaria_n that_o make_v very_o much_o against_o
and_o of_o this_o the_o doctor_n give_v this_o reason_n 100l_n vide_fw-la suarez_n ãâã_d paz._n in_o practica_fw-la criminal_a eccles_n cap._n 100l_n because_o a_o thing_n so_o odious_a and_o that_o will_v bring_v so_o certain_a ruin_n to_o soul_n may_v not_o be_v permit_v with_o so_o great_a scandal_n and_o so_o great_a mischief_n 2._o and_o that_o confession_n may_v be_v reveal_v for_o the_o regulate_v a_o doubtful_a case_n of_o marriage_n be_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o great_a canonist_n 3._o that_o it_o may_v be_v reveal_v in_o the_o case_n of_o heresy_n confess_v i_o think_v there_o be_v no_o doubt_n of_o it_o at_o any_o time_n 4._o and_o that_o every_o confessor_n may_v reveal_v the_o confession_n by_o the_o penitent'_v leave_v be_v teach_v by_o durandus_fw-la almain_n medina_n and_o navarre_n and_o general_o by_o all_o the_o ancient_a scholar_n of_o s._n thomas_n now_o if_o a_o law_n be_v make_v that_o in_o certain_a case_n the_o confessor_n shall_v publish_v the_o confession_n than_o every_o man_n consent_n be_v involve_v in_o it_o as_o his_o private_a right_n be_v in_o the_o public_a interest_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o part_n and_o to_o which_o it_o be_v subordinate_a and_o must_v yield_v but_o who_o please_v to_o see_v how_o this_o affair_n once_o do_v stand_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o more_o especial_o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n if_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o may_v be_v satisfy_v by_o the_o proof_n which_o altisiodorensis_n give_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o publish_v confession_n in_o certain_a case_n 5._o last_o if_o a_o sinful_a intention_n of_o commit_v a_o grievous_a crime_n be_v reveal_v in_o confession_n and_o the_o person_n confess_v can_v desist_v from_o or_o will_v not_o alter_v his_o purpose_n then_o that_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n may_v be_v break_v open_a be_v affirm_v by_o n_n by_o part._n 4._o q._n 28._o memb_v 2._o art_n 2._o in_o resp_a n_n alexander_n of_o alice_n by_o the_o 7._o the_o confessio_fw-la ult_n num_fw-la 7._o summa_fw-la angelica_n which_o also_o reckon_v five_o case_n more_o in_o which_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o reveal_v confession_n the_o same_o also_o be_v teach_v by_o 24._o by_o cap._n omnis_fw-la de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la &_o remis_fw-la num_fw-la 24._o panormitan_n omnis_fw-la panormitan_n super_fw-la 5._o cap._n omnis_fw-la hostiensis_n the_o 2._o the_o in_o confess_v 3._o num_fw-la 2._o summa_fw-la sylvestrina_n and_o by_o pope_n prodit_fw-la pope_n in_o cap._n omnis_fw-la verb._n prodit_fw-la innocent_a himself_o but_o now_o if_o we_o consider_v how_o it_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n and_o have_v be_v this_o last_o age_n for_o the_o most_o part_n we_o shall_v find_v that_o this_o humane_a constitution_n rely_v upon_o prudent_a and_o pious_a consideration_n be_v urge_v as_o a_o sacramental_a obligation_n and_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o religion_n and_o be_v not_o account_v oblige_v only_o for_o the_o reason_n of_o its_o first_o sanction_n nor_o as_o a_o act_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o positive_a law_n but_o as_o a_o natural_a essential_a divine_a and_o unalterable_a obligation_n and_o from_o thence_o these_o doctrine_n be_v derive_v 1._o that_o what_o a_o priest_n know_v in_o confession_n he_o know_v it_o not_o as_o a_o man_n but_o as_o god_n which_o proposition_n as_o it_o be_v foolish_a and_o too_o near_o to_o blasphemy_n and_o may_v as_o well_o infer_v that_o the_o priest_n may_v be_v then_o adore_v by_o the_o penitent_a with_o the_o distinction_n viz._n not_o as_o man_n but_o as_o god_n so_o be_v express_o confute_v by_o the_o gloss_n abovecited_a 21._o in_o quartum_fw-la librum_fw-la scent_n do_v 21._o and_o by_o scotus_n but_o teach_v by_o the_o modern_a casuist_n and_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o a_o strange_a practice_n for_o 2._o as_o a_o consequent_a of_o the_o former_a it_o be_v teach_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o their_o great_a guide_n that_o if_o a_o priest_n have_v hear_v a_o thing_n only_o in_o confession_n â_o confession_n vide_fw-la richard_n in_o lâb_n 4._o scent_n dâst_n eâd._a art_n 4._o q._n â_o if_o be_v ask_v and_o swear_v he_o shall_v say_v he_o never_o hear_v that_o thing_n he_o neither_o lie_v nor_o forswear_v so_o emanuel_n 23._o emanuel_n aphâr_n v._o confessor_n n._n 23._o sa_n teach_v and_o add_v that_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o penitent_a may_v also_o swear_v that_o he_o say_v nothing_o or_o no_o such_o thing_n in_o confession_n but_o how_o this_o shall_v be_v excuse_v or_o whether_o they_o think_v the_o penitent_a to_o have_v speak_v to_o none_o but_o god_n i_o be_o not_o yet_o satisfy_v 3._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o reveal_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v tell_v only_o in_o confession_n though_o it_o be_v to_o avoid_v the_o great_a evil_n that_o can_v happen_v so_o say_v brit._n say_v apolog._n adv_o reg._n m._n brit._n bellarmine_n to_o save_v a_o whole_a commonwealth_n from_o damage_n temporal_a or_o spiritual_a so_o â_o so_o disp_n 33._o in_o 3._o part_n â_o thom._n sect._n 1._o n._n â_o suarez_n to_o save_v the_o life_n of_o all_o the_o king_n in_o christendom_n so_o 140._o so_o praestaret_fw-la reges_fw-la omnes_fw-la peâire_fw-la quam_fw-la si_fw-la vel_fw-la semel_fw-la confessionis_fw-la sigillum_fw-la violaretur_fw-la epist._n ad_fw-la fontonem_fw-la ducaeum_n p._n 140._o binet_n tell_v isaac_n causabon_n in_o the_o king_n library_n at_o paris_n the_o same_o be_v open_o avow_v by_o eudaemon_n johannes_n 13._o johannes_n apolog._n pro_fw-la garnettâ_n c._n 13._o that_o there_o be_v no_o evil_a so_o great_a for_o the_o avoid_n of_o which_o it_o can_v be_v lawful_a to_o reveal_v confession_n and_o that_o this_o may_v appear_v to_o be_v a_o catholic_n doctrine_n the_o same_o author_n reckon_v up_o so_o many_o modern_n teach_v the_o same_o that_o the_o very_a name_n of_o the_o author_n and_o book_n fill_v up_o several_a page_n and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o catholic_n doctrine_n be_v express_o teach_v by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o famous_a apology_n make_v for_o the_o jesuit_n after_o the_o horrid_a parricide_n of_o henry_n the_o four_o of_o france_n they_o add_v even_o beyond_o this_o all_o the_o curiosity_n of_o the_o very_a circumstance_n of_o silence_n that_o this_o silence_n do_v not_o only_o oblige_v in_o the_o case_n of_o perfect_a confession_n but_o if_o it_o be_v begin_v not_o only_o in_o case_n of_o confession_n clear_a and_o express_v but_o if_o it_o be_v so_o much_o as_o in_o relation_n to_o confession_n not_o only_o the_o confessor_n but_o the_o messenger_n the_o interpreter_n the_o counsellor_n he_o that_o hear_v it_o by_o chance_n or_o by_o stealth_n and_o he_o that_o be_v tell_v of_o it_o by_o he_o that_o shall_v but_o do_v not_o conceal_v it_o the_o seal_n be_v to_o be_v keep_v by_o all_o mean_n direct_o and_o indirect_o by_o word_n and_o sign_n judicial_o and_o extrajudicial_o unless_o the_o penitent_a give_v leave_v but_o that_o leave_n be_v to_o be_v express_v and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v ask_v but_o in_o the_o case_n of_o a_o compel_a necessity_n neither_o can_v the_o confessor_n impose_v a_o public_a penance_n upon_o he_o who_o have_v confess_v private_o which_o thing_n especial_o the_o last_o be_v most_o diametrical_o oppose_v to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v but_o these_o thing_n be_v express_o teach_v as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o most_o famous_a casuist_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n etc._n moral_a theol._n 1_o act_n 7._o examen_n 4._o de_fw-la poeâit_fw-la sect._n 6._o n._n 63_o 64_o 65_o etc._n etc._n by_o escobar_n who_o compare_v his_o book_n in_o method_n to_o the_o seven_o seal_n of_o the_o revelation_n which_o the_o four_o live_a creature_n read_v suarez_n the_o ox_n molina_n the_o man_n vasques_n the_o eagle_n and_o valentia_n the_o lion_n and_o 24._o elder_n that_o be_v 24._o jesuit_n also_o read_v these_o seven_o seal_n though_o when_o they_o come_v to_o be_v reckon_v they_o prove_v 25._o so_o fatal_a be_v that_o antichristian_a number_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o it_o occur_v in_o every_o accident_n but_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o the_o doctrine_n he_o teach_v be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o those_o 25._o famous_a lead_a man_n penes_fw-la quos_fw-la imperium_fw-la iâterarum_n &_o conscientiarum_fw-la if_o now_o it_o be_v not_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n then_o be_v it_o heretical_a and_o then_o why_o be_v it_o not_o disow_v why_o be_v not_o they_o that_o say_v so_o censure_v why_o be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n condemn_v why_o be_v it_o public_o maintain_v and_o allow_v by_o authority_n why_o be_v it_o plead_v in_o bar_n against_o execution_n of_o justice_n in_o the_o case_n of_o treason_n as_o it_o be_v by_o f._n garnet_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o apologist_n but_o if_o this_o be_v the_o catholic_n doctrine_n then_o let_v it_o be_v
time_n visit_v the_o altar_n aforesaid_a fourteen_o or_o fifteen_o plenary_a pardon_n certain_o the_o pope_n suppose_v these_o person_n to_o be_v mighty_a criminal_n that_o they_o need_v so_o many_o pardon_n so_o many_o plenaries_n but_o two_o all_o be_v of_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v as_o much_o as_o two_o nothing_o but_o if_o there_o be_v not_o infinite_a cause_n of_o fear_n that_o very_o many_o of_o they_o be_v nullity_n and_o that_o none_o of_o they_o be_v of_o any_o certain_a avail_n there_o can_v be_v no_o pretence_n of_o reasonableness_n in_o dispense_n these_o jewel_n with_o so_o loose_a a_o hand_n and_o useless_a a_o freedom_n as_o if_o a_o man_n do_v shovel_n mustard_n or_o pour_v hogshead_n of_o vinegar_n into_o his_o friend_n mouth_n to_o make_v he_o swallow_v a_o mouthful_n of_o herb_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o secret_a meaning_n of_o it_o that_o in_o divers_a clause_n in_o their_o bull_n of_o indulgence_n jubilii_fw-la bull._n julii_n 3._o de_fw-fr a_fw-fr jubilii_fw-la they_o put_v in_o this_o clause_n a_o pardon_n of_o all_o their_o sin_n be_v they_o never_o so_o heinous_a the_o extraordinary_a case_n reserve_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o consequent_a difficulty_n of_o get_v pardon_n of_o such_o great_a sin_n because_o it_o will_v cost_v much_o more_o money_n be_v or_o may_v be_v some_o little_a restraint_n to_o some_o person_n from_o run_v easy_o into_o the_o most_o horrible_a impiety_n but_o to_o give_v such_o a_o loose_a to_o this_o little_a and_o this_o last_o rein_n and_o curb_v and_o by_o a_o easy_a indulgence_n to_o take_v off_o all_o even_o the_o most_o heinous_a sin_n what_o be_v it_o but_o to_o give_v the_o devil_n a_o argument_n to_o tempt_v person_n that_o have_v any_o conscience_n or_o fear_n leave_v to_o throw_v off_o all_o fear_n and_o to_o stick_v at_o nothing_o 8._o it_o seem_v hard_a to_o give_v a_o reasonable_a account_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o give_v a_o plenary_a pardon_n of_o all_o their_o sin_n and_o yet_o at_o the_o same_o time_n a_o indulgence_n of_o 12000._o year_n and_o as_o many_o quarentaine_n it_o seem_v the_o bounty_n of_o the_o church_n run_v out_o of_o a_o conduit_n though_o the_o vessel_n be_v full_a yet_o the_o water_n still_o continue_v run_v and_o go_v into_o waist_n 9_o in_o this_o great_a heap_n of_o indulgence_n and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o very_a many_o other_o power_n be_v give_v to_o a_o lay_v sister_n or_o brother_n to_o free_v a_o soul_n from_o purgatory_n but_o if_o this_o be_v so_o easy_o grant_v the_o necessity_n of_o mass_n will_v be_v very_o little_a what_o need_n be_v there_o to_o give_v great_a fee_n to_o a_o physician_n when_o a_o sick_a person_n may_v be_v cure_v with_o a_o posset_n and_o pepper_n the_o remedy_n of_o the_o way_n of_o indulgence_n be_v cheap_a and_o easy_a a_o servant_n with_o a_o candle_n a_o pater_n and_o a_o ave_fw-la a_o go_v to_o visit_v a_o altar_n wear_v the_o scapular_a of_o the_o carmelites_n or_o the_o chord_n of_o s._n francis_n but_o mass_n for_o soul_n be_v a_o dear_a commodity_n five_o penny_n or_o six_o penny_n be_v the_o least_o a_o mass_n will_v cost_v in_o some_o place_n nay_o it_o will_v stand_v in_o nine_o penny_n in_o other_o place_n but_o then_o if_o the_o pope_n can_v do_v this_o trick_n certain_o then_o what_o can_v be_v say_v to_o john_n gerson_n question_n arbitrio_fw-la papa_n proprio_fw-la si_fw-la clavibus_fw-la uti_fw-la posset_n cur_n sinit_fw-la ut_fw-la poena_fw-la pios_fw-la cruciet_fw-la cur_n non_fw-la evacuat_fw-la loca_fw-la purgandis_fw-la animabus_fw-la tradita_fw-la the_o answer_n make_v up_o the_o tetrastic_a sed_fw-la servus_n esse_fw-la fidelis_fw-la amat_fw-la the_o pope_n may_v be_v kind_a but_o he_o must_v be_v wise_a too_o a_o faithful_a and_o wise_a steward_n he_o must_v not_o destroy_v the_o whole_a state_n of_o the_o purge_a church_n if_o he_o take_v away_o all_o the_o fuel_n from_o the_o fire_n who_o shall_v make_v the_o pot_n boil_v this_o may_v not_o be_v do_v ut_fw-la possint_fw-la superesse_fw-la quos_fw-la peccasse_fw-la poeniteat_fw-la sinner_n must_v pay_v for_o it_o in_o their_o body_n or_o their_o purse_n section_n ii_o of_o purgatory_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n as_o it_o be_v teach_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o novelty_n and_o a_o part_n of_o their_o new_a religion_n be_v sufficient_o attest_v by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o cardinal_n of_o rochester_n and_o alphonsus_n a_o castro_n who_o word_n i_o now_o add_v that_o he_o who_o please_v may_v see_v how_o these_o new_a man_n will_v fain_o impose_v their_o new_a fancy_n upon_o the_o church_n under_o pretence_n and_o title_n of_o ancient_n and_o catholic_a verity_n the_o word_n of_o roffensis_n in_o his_o eighteen_o article_n against_o luther_n be_v these_o wise_a these_o a_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n touch_v dr._n taylor_n sect._n 4._o n._n 26._o p._n 10._o which_o if_o the_o reader_n please_v for_o his_o curiosity_n or_o his_o recreation_n to_o see_v he_o shall_v find_v this_o pleasant_a passage_n of_o deep_a learning_n and_o subtle_a observation_n dr._n tay._n have_v say_v that_o roffensis_n and_o p._n v._o affirm_v that_o who_o so_o search_v the_o write_n of_o the_o greek_a father_n shall_v find_v that_o none_o or_o very_o rare_o any_o one_o of_o they_o ever_o make_v mention_n of_o purgatory_n whereas_o pol._n virgil_n affirm_v no_o such_o thing_n nor_o do_v roffensis_n say_v that_o very_o rare_o any_o one_o of_o they_o mentiâns_v it_o but_o only_o that_o in_o thâse_a ancient_a writer_n he_o shall_v find_v none_o or_o but_o very_o rare_a mention_n of_o it_o if_o this_o man_n be_v in_o his_o wit_n when_o he_o make_v this_o answer_n a_o answer_n which_o no_o man_n can_v unriddle_v or_o tell_v how_o it_o oppose_v the_o objection_n than_o it_o be_v very_o certain_a that_o if_o this_o can_v pass_v among_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n objection_n the_o papist_n be_v in_o a_o very_a great_a strait_n and_o have_v very_o little_a to_o say_v for_o themselves_o and_o the_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n be_v write_v by_o compulsion_n and_o by_o the_o shame_n of_o confutation_n not_o of_o conscience_n or_o ingenuous_a persuasion_n no_o man_n can_v be_v so_o foolish_a as_o to_o suppose_v this_o fit_a to_o be_v give_v in_o answer_n to_o any_o sober_a discourse_n or_o if_o there_o be_v such_o pitiful_a people_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o trust_v to_o write_v book_n in_o defence_n of_o their_o religion_n it_o seem_v they_o care_v not_o what_o any_o man_n say_v or_o prove_v against_o they_o if_o the_o people_n be_v but_o coââned_v with_o a_o pretend_a answer_n for_o that_o serve_v the_o turn_n as_o well_o as_o a_o wise_a legate_n qui_fw-la velit_fw-la graecorum_n veterum_fw-la commentarios_fw-la &_o nullum_fw-la quantum_fw-la opinor_fw-la aut_fw-la quam_fw-la rarissimum_fw-la de_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la sermonem_fw-la inveniet_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la latini_fw-la simul_fw-la omnes_fw-la at_o sensim_fw-la huius_fw-la rei_fw-la veritatem_fw-la conceperunt_fw-la he_o that_o please_v let_v he_o read_v the_o commentary_n of_o the_o old_a greek_n and_o as_o i_o suppose_v he_o shall_v find_v none_o or_o very_o rare_a mention_n or_o speech_n of_o purgatory_n but_o neither_o do_v all_o the_o latin_n at_o one_o time_n but_o by_o little_a and_o little_o conceive_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o thing_n and_o again_o aliquandiu_fw-la incognitum_fw-la fuit_fw-la sero_fw-la cognitum_fw-la universae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la deinde_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la pedetentim_fw-la partim_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n partim_fw-la ex_fw-la revelationibus_fw-la creditum_fw-la fuit_fw-la for_o somewhile_o it_o be_v unknown_a it_o be_v but_o late_o know_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n then_o it_o be_v believe_v by_o some_o by_o little_a and_o little_a partly_o from_o scripture_n partly_o from_o revelation_n and_o this_o be_v the_o goodly_a ground_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n found_v no_o question_n upon_o tradition_n apostolical_a deliver_v some_o hundred_o of_o year_n indeed_o after_o they_o be_v dead_a but_o the_o truth_n be_v because_o it_o be_v forget_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o they_o have_v so_o many_o thing_n in_o their_o head_n when_o they_o be_v alive_a write_v and_o say_v nothing_o of_o it_o therefore_o they_o take_v care_n to_o send_v some_o from_o the_o dead_a who_o by_o new_a revelation_n shall_v teach_v this_o old_a doctrine_n this_o we_o may_v conjecture_v to_o be_v the_o equivalent_a sense_n of_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o roffensis_n but_o the_o plain_a word_n be_v sufficient_a without_o a_o commentary_n rerum_fw-la lib._n 8._o cap._n 1._o de_fw-fr inven_n rerum_fw-la now_o for_o polydore_n virgil_n his_o own_o word_n can_v best_o tell_v what_o he_o say_v est_fw-la ego_fw-la vero_fw-la originem_fw-la quod_fw-la mei_fw-la est_fw-la muneris_fw-la quaeritans_fw-la non_fw-la reperio_fw-la ante_fw-la fuisse_fw-la quod_fw-la sciam_fw-la quum_fw-la d._n gregorius_n ad_fw-la svas_fw-la stationes_fw-la id_fw-la praemii_fw-la
present_o after_o death_n to_o mean_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n of_o the_o time_n of_o which_o neither_o man_n nor_o angel_n know_v any_o thing_n and_o whereas_o justin_n martyr_n say_v that_o present_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a go_v to_o paradise_n 33._o pag._n 33._o e._n w._n answer_n 2._o that_o justin_n do_v not_o say_v that_o all_o just_a soul_n be_v carry_v present_o into_o heaven_n no_o justin_n say_v into_o paradise_n true_a but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o it_o be_v so_o a_o part_n of_o heaven_n as_o limbus_fw-la infantum_fw-la be_v by_o themselves_o call_v a_o part_n of_o hell_n that_o be_v a_o place_n of_o bliss_n the_o region_n of_o the_o bless_a but_o 3._o justin_n say_v that_o present_o there_o be_v a_o separation_n make_v but_o he_o say_v not_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v carry_v to_o paradise_n that_o be_v the_o next_o answer_n which_o the_o very_a word_n of_o justin_n do_v contradict_v there_o be_v present_o a_o separation_n make_v of_o the_o just_a and_o unjust_a for_o they_o be_v by_o the_o angel_n carry_v to_o the_o place_n they_o have_v deserve_v this_o be_v the_o separation_n which_o be_v make_v one_o be_v carry_v to_o paradise_n the_o other_o to_o a_o place_n in_o hell_n but_o these_o be_v such_o pitiful_a offer_n at_o answer_v the_o gentleman_n try_v another_o way_n and_o say_v 4._o that_o this_o affirmative_a of_o justin_n contradict_v another_o say_n of_o justin_n which_o i_o cite_v out_o of_o sixtus_n senensis_n that_o justin_n martyr_n and_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n affirm_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n be_v keep_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n reserve_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o great_a day_n and_o that_o before_o then_o no_o man_n receive_v according_a to_o his_o work_n do_v in_o this_o life_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o one_o opinion_n do_v not_o contradict_v another_o for_o though_o the_o father_n believe_v that_o they_o who_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n rest_n from_o their_o labour_n and_o be_v in_o bless_a place_n and_o have_v antepast_n of_o joy_n and_o comfort_n yet_o in_o those_o place_n they_o be_v reserve_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o great_a day_n the_o intermedial_a joy_n or_o sorrow_n respective_o of_o the_o just_a and_o unjust_a do_v but_o antedate_v the_o final_a sentence_n and_o as_o the_o comfort_n of_o god_n spirit_n in_o this_o life_n be_v indeed_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o reward_n of_o piety_n as_o the_o torment_n of_o a_o evil_a conscience_n be_v the_o wage_n of_o impiety_n yet_o as_o these_o do_v not_o hinder_v but_o that_o the_o great_a reward_n be_v give_v at_o doomsday_n and_o not_o before_o so_o neither_o do_v the_o joy_n which_o the_o righteous_a have_v in_o the_o interval_n they_o can_v both_o consist_v together_o and_o be_v general_o affirm_v by_o very_a many_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n 36._o e._n w._n pag._n 36._o and_o methinks_v this_o gentleman_n may_v have_v learn_v from_o sixtus_n senensis_n how_o to_o have_v reconcile_v these_o two_o opinion_n for_o he_o quote_v he_o say_v there_o be_v a_o double_a beatitude_n the_o one_o imperfect_a of_o soul_n only_o the_o other_o consummate_v and_o perfect_a of_o soul_n and_o body_n the_o first_o the_o father_n call_v by_o several_a name_n of_o sinus_n abrahae_fw-la atrium_n dei_fw-la sub_fw-la altar_n etc._n etc._n the_o other_o perfect_a joy_n the_o glory_n of_o the_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o matter_n not_o what_o be_v say_v or_o how_o it_o be_v contradict_v so_o it_o seem_v but_o to_o serve_v a_o present_a turn_n but_o at_o last_o if_o nothing_o of_o this_o will_v do_v these_o word_n be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o justin_n for_o he_o be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n ad_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la to_o which_o i_o answer_v it_o matter_n not_o whether_o they_o be_v justins_n or_o no_o but_o they_o be_v put_v together_o in_o the_o collection_n of_o his_o work_n and_o they_o be_v general_o call_v his_o and_o cite_v under_o his_o name_n and_o make_v use_v of_o by_o bellarmine_n 6._o bellarmine_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la c._n 25._o &_o 26._o lib._n de_fw-fr confirmat_fw-la c._n 5_o l._n 3._o de_fw-fr euchar._n c._n 6._o when_o he_o suppose_v they_o to_o be_v to_o his_o purpose_n however_o the_o author_n be_v ancient_a and_o orthodox_n and_o so_o esteem_v in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o particular_a speak_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o more_o ancient_a doctor_n well_o but_o how_o be_v this_o against_o purgatory_n say_v e._n w._n 29._o p._n 36._o line_n 29._o for_o they_o may_v be_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n after_o they_o have_v be_v in_o purgatory_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o he_o dare_v not_o teach_v that_o for_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o believe_v that_o the_o soul_n deliver_v out_o of_o purgatory_n go_v immediate_o to_o the_o heaven_n of_o the_o bless_a and_o therefore_o if_o his_o book_n have_v be_v worth_a the_o peruse_n by_o the_o censor_n of_o book_n he_o may_v have_v be_v question_v and_o follow_v mr._n whites_n fortune_n and_o he_o add_v it_o may_v be_v afterward_o according_a to_o origen_n opinion_n that_o be_v purgatory_n may_v be_v after_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n for_o so_o origen_n hold_v that_o all_o the_o fire_n be_v purgatory_n and_o the_o devil_n themselves_o shall_v be_v save_v thus_o this_o poor_a gentleman_n think_v it_o necessary_a to_o answer_v one_o argument_n against_o purgatory_n bring_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a care_v not_o to_o answer_v by_o a_o condemn_a heresy_n rather_o than_o reason_n shall_v be_v teach_v by_o any_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o however_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o father_n across_o his_o slippery_a answer_n so_o that_o they_o thrust_v he_o into_o a_o corner_n for_o in_o these_o receptacle_n the_o godly_a have_v joy_n and_o they_o enter_v into_o they_o as_o soon_o as_o they_o die_v and_o abide_v there_o till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n s._n ambrose_n be_v so_o full_a 4._o de_fw-fr bono_fw-mi mortis_fw-la cap._n 4._o pertinent_a and_o material_a to_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n and_o so_o destructive_a of_o the_o roman_a hypothesis_n that_o nothing_o can_v be_v say_v against_o it_o his_o word_n be_v these_o therefore_o in_o all_o regard_v death_n be_v good_a because_o it_o divide_v those_o that_o be_v always_o fight_v that_o they_o may_v not_o impugn_v each_o other_o and_o because_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a port_n to_o they_o who_o be_v toss_v in_o the_o sea_n of_o this_o world_n require_v the_o station_n of_o faithful_a rest_n and_o because_o it_o make_v not_o our_o state_n worse_o but_o such_o as_o it_o find_v every_o one_o such_o it_o reserve_v he_o to_o the_o future_a judgement_n and_o nourish_v he_o with_o rest_n and_o withdraw_v he_o from_o the_o envy_n of_o present_a thing_n and_o compose_v he_o with_o the_o expectation_n of_o future_a thing_n e._n w._n 34._o pag._n 34._o think_v himself_o bind_v to_o say_v something_o to_o these_o word_n answer_n it_o be_v a_o excellent_a say_n for_o worse_a he_o be_v not_o but_o infinite_o better_a that_o quit_v off_o the_o occasion_n of_o live_v here_o be_v ascertain_v of_o future_a bliss_n hereafter_o which_o be_v the_o whole_a drift_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o that_o chapter_n read_v it_o and_o say_v afterward_o if_o i_o say_v not_o true_a it_o be_v well_o put_v off_o but_o there_o be_v very_o many_o that_o read_v he_o who_o never_o will_v or_o can_v examine_v what_o s._n ambrose_n say_v and_o withal_o such_o he_o hope_n to_o escape_v but_o as_o to_o the_o thing_n that_o death_n give_v a_o man_n advantage_n and_o by_o its_o own_o fault_n no_o disadvantage_n be_v indeed_o not_o only_o the_o whole_a drift_n of_o that_o chapter_n but_o of_o that_o whole_a book_n but_o not_o for_o that_o reason_n only_o be_v a_o man_n the_o better_a for_o death_n but_o because_o it_o make_v he_o not_o worse_o in_o order_n to_o eternity_n nay_o it_o do_v not_o alter_v he_o at_o all_o as_o to_o that_o for_o as_o death_n find_v he_o so_o shall_v the_o judgement_n find_v he_o and_o therefore_o not_o purify_v by_o purgatory_n for_o such_o he_o be_v reserve_v and_o not_o only_o thus_o but_o it_o cherish_v he_o with_o rest_n which_o will_v be_v very_o ill_o do_v if_o death_n carry_v he_o to_o purgatory_n now_o all_o these_o last_o word_n and_o many_o other_o e._n w._n be_v please_v to_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o as_o not_o be_v for_o his_o purpose_n but_o he_o that_o please_v to_o see_v more_o may_v read_v the_o 12._o and_o 18._o chapter_n of_o the_o same_o treatise_n s._n gregorie_n saying_n ãâã_d s._n greg._n nazianz_n orat_fw-la 15._o in_o plagam_fw-la grandiâis_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d that_o after_o this_o life_n there_o be_v
have_v be_v write_v against_o by_o so_o learned_a a_o adversary_n but_o to_o let_v they_o agree_v as_o well_o as_o they_o can_v the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n testament_n demonstr_n evang._n l._n 1._o c._n ult_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d the_o apostle_n receive_v a_o command_n according_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o n._n t._n to_o make_v a_o memory_n of_o this_o sacrifice_n upon_o the_o table_n by_o the_o symbol_n of_o his_o body_n and_o healthful_a blood_n so_o the_o word_n be_v translate_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a but_o the_o letter_n translate_v they_o thus_o see_v therefore_o we_o have_v receive_v the_o memory_n of_o this_o sacrifice_n to_o be_v celebrate_v in_o certain_a sign_n on_o the_o table_n and_o the_o memory_n of_o that_o body_n and_o healthful_a blood_n as_o be_v the_o institute_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n out_o of_o his_o last_o chapter_n i_o translate_v as_o well_o as_o i_o can_v the_o greek_a word_n i_o have_v set_v in_o the_o margin_n that_o every_o one_o that_o understand_v may_v see_v i_o do_v he_o right_o and_o indeed_o to_o do_v my_o adversary_n right_a when_o he_o go_v about_o to_o change_v not_o to_o mend_v the_o translation_n he_o only_o change_v the_o order_n of_o the_o word_n but_o in_o nothing_o do_v he_o mend_v his_o own_o matter_n by_o it_o for_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o main_a question_n viz._n that_o the_o memory_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v celebrate_v in_o certain_a fign_n on_o the_o table_n but_o then_o that_o i_o may_v do_v myself_o right_a and_o the_o question_n too_o whosoever_o translate_v these_o word_n for_o this_o gentleman_n have_v abuse_v he_o and_o make_v he_o to_o render_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d as_o if_o it_o be_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d and_o have_v make_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d to_o be_v govern_v by_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d which_o be_v so_o far_o off_o it_o and_o have_v no_o relation_n to_o it_o and_o not_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d with_o which_o it_o be_v join_v and_o have_v make_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d to_o be_v govern_v by_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d when_o it_o have_v a_o substantive_a of_o its_o own_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d and_o he_o repeat_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d once_o more_o than_o it_o be_v in_o the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n only_o because_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o reader_n suppose_v that_o eusebius_n call_v the_o consecrate_a element_n the_o symbol_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n but_o this_o fraud_n be_v too_o much_o study_v to_o be_v excusable_a upon_o the_o stock_n of_o humane_a infirmity_n or_o a_o innocent_a persuasion_n but_o that_o i_o may_v satisfy_v the_o reader_n in_o this_o question_n so_o far_o as_o the_o testimony_n and_o doctrine_n of_o eusebius_n can_v extend_v he_o have_v these_o word_n full_o to_o our_o purpose_n ãâã_d lib._n 5._o c._n 3._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d first_n our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n and_o then_o after_o he_o his_o priest_n of_o all_o nation_n celebrate_v the_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastic_a law_n by_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n signify_v the_o mystery_n of_o his_o body_n and_o heal_a blood_n ãâã_d et_fw-fr lib._n 8._o c._n 1._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d et_fw-la paulo_n post_fw-la ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d and_o again_o by_o the_o wine_n which_o be_v the_o symbol_n of_o his_o blood_n he_o purge_v the_o old_a sin_n of_o they_o who_o be_v baptize_v into_o his_o death_n and_o believe_v in_o his_o blood_n again_o he_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n the_o symbol_n of_o the_o divine_a oeconomy_n command_v they_o to_o make_v the_o image_n figure_n or_o representation_n of_o his_o own_o body_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d and_o again_o he_o receive_v not_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o blood_n nor_o the_o slay_v of_o divers_a beast_n institute_v in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d but_o ordain_v we_o shall_v use_v bread_n the_o symbol_n of_o his_o own_o body_n so_o far_o i_o think_v fit_a to_o set_v down_o the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n to_o convince_v my_o adversary_n that_o eusebius_n be_v none_o of_o they_o but_o he_o be_v whole_o we_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o sacrament_n s._n macarius_n be_v cite_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a in_o these_o word_n 27._o macarius_n homil_n 27._o in_o the_o church_n be_v offer_v bread_n and_o wine_n the_o antitype_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o they_o that_o partake_v of_o the_o bread_n that_o appear_v do_v spiritual_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ._n 22._o christ._n pag._n 22._o a._n l._n say_v macarius_n say_v not_o so_o but_o rather_o the_o contrary_a viz._n bread_n and_o wine_n exhibit_v the_o exemplar_n or_o a_o antitype_n his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n now_o although_o i_o do_v not_o suppose_v many_o learned_a or_o good_a man_n will_v concern_v themselves_o with_o what_o this_o little_a man_n say_v yet_o i_o can_v but_o note_v that_o they_o who_o give_v he_o this_o answer_n may_v be_v ashamed_a for_o here_o be_v a_o double_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o little_a answer_n first_o he_o put_v in_o the_o word_n exhibit_v of_o his_o own_o head_n there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n in_o s._n macarius_n in_o the_o word_n quote_v 2._o he_o make_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d to_o be_v put_v with_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d by_o way_n of_o apposition_n express_o against_o the_o mind_n of_o s._n macarius_n and_o against_o the_o very_a grammar_n of_o his_o word_n and_o after_o all_o he_o study_v to_o abuse_v his_o author_n and_o yet_o get_v no_o good_a by_o it_o himself_o for_o if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o word_n as_o he_o have_v invent_v it_o or_o some_o body_n else_o for_o he_o yet_o it_o make_v against_o he_o as_o much_o say_v bread_n and_o wine_n exhibit_v christ_n body_n which_o be_v indeed_o true_a though_o not_o here_o say_v by_o the_o saint_n but_o be_v direct_o against_o the_o roman_a article_n because_o it_o confess_v that_o to_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n by_o which_o christ_n body_n be_v exhibit_v to_o we_o but_o much_o more_o be_v the_o whole_a testimony_n of_o s._n macarius_n which_o in_o the_o dissuasive_a be_v translate_v exact_o as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v by_o the_o greek_a word_n cite_v in_o the_o margin_n there_o now_o only_o remain_v the_o authority_n of_o s._n austin_n ibid._n pag._n ibid._n which_o this_o gentleman_n will_v fain_o snatch_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o assert_v to_o his_o own_o party_n i_o cite_v five_o place_n out_o of_o s._n austin_n to_o the_o last_o of_o which_o but_o one_o he_o give_v this_o answer_n that_o s._n austin_n have_v no_o such_o word_n in_o that_o book_n that_o be_v in_o the_o 10._o book_n against_o faustus_n the_o manichee_n concern_v which_o i_o be_o to_o inform_v the_o gentleman_n a_o little_a better_o these_o word_n that_o which_o by_o all_o man_n be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n be_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o true_a sacrifice_n be_v in_o the_o 10._o book_n of_o s._n austin_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n cap._n 5._o and_o make_v a_o distinct_a quotation_n and_o aught_o by_o the_o printer_n to_o have_v be_v divide_v by_o a_o column_n as_o the_o other_o but_o the_o follow_a word_n in_o which_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n after_o his_o assumption_n be_v celebrate_v by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n be_v in_o the_o 20._o book_n cap._n 21._o against_o faustus_n the_o manichee_n manich._n manichee_n huius_fw-la sacrificii_fw-la caro_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la ante_fw-la adventum_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la victimas_fw-la similitudinum_fw-la promittebatur_fw-la in_o passione_n christi_fw-la per_fw-la ipsaâ_n veritatem_fw-la reddebatur_fw-la poâ_n ascensum_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la memoriae_fw-la celebratur_fw-la lib._n 20._o c._n 21._o contr_n faustum_n manich._n all_o these_o word_n and_o divers_a other_o of_o s._n austin_n i_o knit_v together_o into_o a_o close_a order_n like_o a_o continue_a discourse_n but_o all_o of_o they_o be_v s._n augustine_n word_n as_o appear_v in_o the_o place_n set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n but_o this_o gentleman_n care_v not_o for_o what_o be_v say_v by_o s._n austin_n he_o be_v as_o well_o please_v that_o a_o figure_n be_v false_a print_v but_o to_o the_o word_n he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o the_o first_o of_o the_o other_o four_o only_o he_o make_v this_o crude_a answer_n that_o s._n austin_n deny_v not_o the_o real_a eat_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n but_o only_o the_o eat_v it_o in_o that_o gross_a carnal_a and_o sensible_a manner_n as_o the_o capharnaite_v conceive_v to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o upon_o occasion_n of_o this_o error_n s._n austin_n do_v speak_v those_o word_n and_o although_o the_o roman_a error_n
affair_n because_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o christ_n be_v dispenser_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o god_n as_o be_v learned_o urge_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o the_o doctrine_n about_o this_o question_n section_n v._o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o service_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n the_o question_n be_v still_o upon_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o roman_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n i_o be_o to_o make_v it_o good_a that_o the_o present_a article_n and_o practice_n of_o rome_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n 25_o e._n w._n p._n 45._o and_o a._n l._n p._n 25_o to_o this_o purpose_n i_o allege_v s._n basil_n in_o his_o sermon_n or_o book_n de_fw-fr variis_fw-la scripturae_fw-la locis_fw-la but_o say_v my_o adversary_n there_o be_v no_o such_o book_n well!_o be_v there_o such_o a_o man_n as_o s._n basil_n if_o so_o we_o be_v well_o enough_o and_o let_v these_o gentleman_n be_v please_v to_o look_v into_o his_o work_n print_v at_o paris_n 1547._o by_o carola_n guillard_n and_o in_o the_o 130._o page_n he_o shall_v see_v this_o book_n sermon_n accepit_fw-la recordemini_fw-la quaeâ_n ex_fw-la his_fw-la spiritualibus_fw-la sermonibus_fw-la qui_fw-la lecti_fw-la sunt_fw-la medicinae_fw-la reminiscamini_n earum_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o psalmis_fw-la monitionum_fw-la proverbialia_fw-la praecepta_fw-la historiae_fw-la pulchritudinem_fw-la examplaque_fw-la investigate_v his_o addite_fw-la apostolica_fw-la mandata_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la verò_fw-la tanquam_fw-la coronida_fw-la perfectionemque_fw-la verba_fw-la evangelica_fw-la conjungite_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la omnibus_fw-la utilitatem_fw-la capientes_fw-la ad_fw-la id_fw-la demum_fw-la convertatis_fw-la &_o revertamini_fw-la ad_fw-la quod_fw-la cuique_fw-la jucundè_fw-la est_fw-la affectus_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la quod_fw-la obeundum_fw-la gratiam_fw-la à _fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la accepit_fw-la or_o homily_n in_o aliquot_fw-la scripturae_fw-la locis_fw-la at_o the_o begin_n of_o which_o he_o have_v a_o exhortation_n in_o the_o word_n place_v in_o the_o margin_n there_o we_o shall_v find_v the_o lose_a sheep_n the_o beginning_n of_o it_o be_v a_o exhortation_n to_o the_o people_n congregat_v to_o get_v profit_n and_o edification_n by_o the_o scripture_n read_v at_o morning_n prayer_n the_o monition_n in_o the_o psalm_n the_o precept_n of_o the_o proverb_n search_v you_o the_o beauty_n of_o the_o history_n and_o the_o example_n and_o add_v to_o these_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o in_o all_o thing_n join_v the_o word_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o the_o crown_n and_o perfection_n that_o receive_v profit_n from_o they_o all_o you_o may_v at_o length_n turn_v to_o that_o to_o which_o every_o one_o be_v sweet_o affect_v and_o for_o the_o do_v of_o which_o he_o have_v receive_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n now_o this_o difficulty_n be_v over_o all_o that_o remain_v for_o my_o own_o justification_n be_v that_o i_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o s._n chrysostom_n s._n ambrose_n s._n austin_n aquinas_n and_o lyra_n do_v respective_o exhort_v to_o the_o study_n of_o the_o scripture_n exhort_v even_o the_o laity_n to_o do_v so_o and_o testify_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o pray_v in_o a_o know_a tongue_n and_o commend_v this_o as_o most_o useful_a and_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a as_o be_v useless_a and_o without_o edification_n i_o shall_v in_o order_n set_v down_o the_o doctrine_n they_o deliver_v in_o their_o own_o word_n and_o then_o the_o impertinent_a cavil_n of_o the_o adversary_n will_v of_o themselves_o come_v to_o nothing_o s._n chrysostom_n comment_v upon_o s._n paul_n word_n concern_v preach_v and_o pray_v for_o edification_n chap._n 35._o homil._n in_o 1_o cor._n 14._o chap._n and_o so_o as_o to_o be_v understand_v come_v to_o those_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n if_o i_o pray_v with_o my_o tongue_n my_o spirit_n pray_v but_o my_o mind_n be_v without_o fruit_n you_o see_v say_v he_o how_o a_o little_a extol_v prayer_n he_o show_v that_o he_o who_o be_v such_o a_o one_o viz._n as_o the_o apostle_n there_o describe_v be_v not_o only_o unprofitable_a to_o other_o but_o also_o to_o himself_o since_o his_o mind_n be_v without_o fruit_n now_o if_o a_o man_n pray_v what_o he_o understand_v not_o do_v not_o can_v profit_v himself_o how_o can_v he_o that_o stand_v by_o who_o understand_v no_o more_o be_v profit_v by_o that_o which_o do_v he_o that_o speak_v no_o good_a for_o god_n understand_v though_o he_o do_v not_o and_o yet_o he_o that_o so_o pray_v reap_v no_o benefit_n to_o himself_o and_o therefore_o neither_o can_v any_o man_n that_o understand_v no_o more_o the_o affirmation_n be_v plain_a and_o the_o reason_n cogent_fw-fr to_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v the_o word_n of_o s._n chrysostom_n which_o a._n l._n himself_o quote_v out_o of_o he_o if_o one_o speak_v in_o only_a the_o persian_a tongue_n 25._o pag._n 25._o or_o some_o other_o strange_a tongue_n but_o know_v not_o what_o he_o say_v certain_o he_o will_v be_v a_o barbarian_a even_o to_o himself_o and_o not_o to_o another_o only_a because_o he_o know_v not_o the_o force_n of_o the_o word_n this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o s._n paul_n say_v before_o he_o but_o they_o all_o say_v that_o he_o who_o hear_v and_o understand_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o speaker_n or_o the_o scholar_n 14._o in_o 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v but_o a_o barbarian_a thus_o also_o s._n ambrose_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n the_o apostle_n say_v audientibus_fw-la vtilius_fw-la dicit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la paucis_fw-la verbis_fw-la in_o apertionâ_n sermonis_fw-la loqui_fw-la quod_fw-la omnes_fw-la intelligant_fw-la quam_fw-la prolxam_fw-la orationem_fw-la habere_fw-la in_o obscuro_fw-la imperitus_fw-la enim_fw-la audience_n quod_fw-la non_fw-la intelligit_fw-la nescit_fw-la finem_fw-la erationis_fw-la &_o non_fw-la respondet_fw-la amen_o id_fw-la est_fw-la verum_fw-la ut_fw-la confirmetur_fw-la benedictio_fw-la et_fw-la in_o haec_fw-la verba_fw-la nam_fw-la tu_fw-la quidem_fw-la bene_fw-la gratias_fw-la agis_fw-la de_fw-fr eo_fw-la dicit_fw-la qui_fw-la cognita_fw-la sibi_fw-la loquor_fw-la quia_fw-la scit_fw-la quid_fw-la dicit_fw-la sed_fw-la alius_fw-la non_fw-la aedificatur_fw-la si_fw-la utique_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la aedificandam_fw-la convenitis_fw-la ea_fw-la debent_fw-la dici_fw-la quae_fw-la intelligant_fw-la audientes_fw-la nam_fw-la quid_fw-la prodest_fw-la ut_fw-la lingua_fw-la loquatur_fw-la quam_fw-la solus_fw-la scit_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la audit_n nihil_fw-la proficiat_fw-la ideò_fw-la tacere_fw-la debet_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la two_o loquantur_fw-la qui_fw-la prosunt_fw-la audientibus_fw-la it_o be_v better_a to_o speak_v a_o few_o word_n that_o be_v open_a or_o understand_v that_o all_o may_v understand_v than_o to_o have_v a_o long_a oration_n in_o obscurity_n that_o be_v his_o sense_n for_o read_v and_o preach_v now_o for_o prayer_n he_o add_v the_o unskilful_a man_n hear_v what_o he_o understand_v not_o know_v not_o when_o the_o prayer_n end_v and_o answer_v not_o amen_n that_o be_v so_o be_v it_o or_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o blessing_n may_v be_v establish_v and_o a_o little_a after_o if_o you_o meet_v together_o to_o edify_v the_o church_n those_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v say_v which_o the_o hearer_n may_v understand_v for_o what_o profit_n be_v it_o to_o speak_v with_o a_o tongue_n when_o he_o that_o hear_v be_v not_o profit_v therefore_o he_o ought_v to_o hold_v his_o peace_n in_o the_o church_n that_o they_o who_o can_v profit_v the_o hearer_n may_v speak_v debemus_fw-la speak_v s._n august_n in_o 2._o comment_fw-fr in_o ps_n 18._o deprecati_fw-la dominum_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la occultis_fw-la nostris_fw-la mundet_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la alienis_fw-la parcat_fw-la seruis_fw-la suis_fw-la quid_fw-la hoc_fw-la sit_fw-la intelligere_fw-la debemus_fw-la ut_fw-la humanâ_fw-la ratiâne_fw-la non_fw-la quasi_fw-la avium_fw-la voce_fw-la cantemus_fw-la no_o &_o meruli_n &_o psittaci_fw-la &_o corvi_n &_o picae_fw-la &_o hujusmodi_fw-la volucres_fw-la saepe_fw-la ab_fw-la hominibus_fw-la docentur_fw-la sonare_fw-la quod_fw-la nesciunt_fw-la scienter_fw-la autem_fw-la cantare_fw-la non_fw-la avi_fw-la sed_fw-la homini_fw-la divinâ_fw-la voluntate_fw-la concessum_fw-la est_fw-la et_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la nos_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la divina_fw-la eloquia_fw-la cantare_fw-la didicimus_fw-la simul_fw-la etiam_fw-la instare_fw-la debemus_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la beatus_fw-la populus_fw-la qui_fw-la intelligit_fw-la jubilationem_fw-la proinde_fw-la charissimi_fw-la quod_fw-la consonâ_fw-la vocâ_n cantavimus_fw-la sereno_fw-la etiam_fw-la cord_n nosse_fw-la ac_fw-la videre_fw-la debemus_fw-la s._n austin_n compare_v sing_v in_o the_o church_n without_o understanding_n to_o the_o chatter_a of_o parrot_n and_o magpie_n crow_n and_o jackdaw_n but_o to_o sing_v with_o understanding_n be_v by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n give_v to_o man_n and_o we_o who_o sing_v the_o divine_a praise_n in_o the_o church_n must_v remember_v that_o it_o be_v write_v bless_a be_v the_o people_n that_o understand_v sing_v of_o praise_n therefore_o most_o belove_v what_o with_o a_o join_a voice_n we_o have_v sing_v we_o must_v
the_o worship_n of_o image_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o iconoclast_n indeed_o claudius_n taurinensis_n be_v but_o he_o can_v not_o put_v this_o story_n in_o for_o before_o his_o time_n it_o be_v in_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o book_n of_o charles_n the_o great_a before_o quote_v these_o thing_n put_v together_o be_v more_o than_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o this_o story_n be_v write_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o the_o whole_a epistle_n be_v translate_v by_o s._n hierome_n as_o himself_o testify_v pammach_n in_o epist._n 61._o &_o 101._o add_v pammach_n but_o after_o all_o this_o if_o there_o be_v any_o foul_a play_n in_o this_o whole_a affair_n the_o cozenage_n lie_v on_o the_o other_o side_n for_o some_o or_o other_o have_v destroy_v the_o greek_a original_a of_o epiphanius_n and_o only_o the_o latin_a copy_n remain_v and_o in_o all_o of_o they_o of_o epiphanius_n work_n this_o story_n still_o remain_v but_o how_o the_o greek_a come_v to_o be_v lose_v though_o it_o be_v uncertain_a yet_o we_o have_v great_a cause_n to_o suspect_v the_o greek_n to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o loss_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o this_o suspicion_n be_v the_o command_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o seven_o council_n 9_o syn._n 7._o act._n 8._o can._n 9_o that_o all_o writing_n against_o image_n shall_v be_v bring_v in_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o c._n p._n there_o to_o be_v lay_v up_o with_o the_o book_n of_o other_o heretic_n it_o be_v most_o likely_a here_o it_o may_v go_v away_o but_o however_o the_o good_a providence_n of_o god_n have_v keep_v this_o record_n to_o reprove_v the_o folly_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o this_o particular_a the_o authority_n of_o s._n austin_n reprehend_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n 34._o de_fw-fr moribus_fw-la eccles._n lib._n 1._o c._n 34._o be_v urge_v from_o several_a place_n of_o his_o writing_n cite_v in_o the_o margin_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr moribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vivre_fw-fr jam_fw-la videbitis_fw-la quid_fw-la inter_fw-la ostentationem_fw-la &_o sinceritatem_fw-la postremo_fw-la quid_fw-la inter_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la sirenas_n &_o portum_fw-la religionis_fw-la intersit_fw-la nolite_fw-la mihi_fw-la colligere_fw-la professores_fw-la nominis_fw-la christiani_n nec_fw-la professionis_fw-la suae_fw-la vim_o aut_fw-la scientes_fw-la aut_fw-la exhibentes_fw-la nolite_fw-la consectari_fw-la turbas_fw-la imperitorum_fw-la qui_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la verâ_fw-la religione_fw-la superstitiosi_fw-la sunt_fw-la vel_fw-la ita_fw-la libidinibus_fw-la dediti_fw-la ut_fw-la obliti_fw-la sint_fw-la quid_fw-la promiserint_fw-la deo_fw-la novi_fw-la multos_fw-la esse_fw-la sepulchrorum_fw-la &_o picturarum_fw-la adoratores_fw-la novi_fw-la multos_fw-la esse_fw-la qui_fw-la luxuriosissimè_fw-la super_fw-la mortuos_fw-la vivre_fw-fr he_o have_v these_o word_n which_o i_o have_v now_o set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n in_o which_o describe_v among_o other_o thing_n the_o difference_n between_o superstition_n and_o true_a religion_n he_o press_v it_o on_o to_o issue_n tell_v not_o i_o of_o the_o professor_n of_o the_o christian_a name_n follow_v not_o the_o troop_n of_o the_o unskilful_a who_o in_o true_a religion_n itself_o either_o be_v superstitious_a or_o so_o give_v to_o lust_n that_o they_o have_v forget_v what_o they_o have_v promise_v to_o god_n i_o know_v that_o there_o be_v many_o worshipper_n of_o sepulchre_n and_o picture_n i_o know_v that_o there_o be_v many_o who_o live_v luxurious_o over_o the_o grave_n of_o the_o dead_a that_o s._n austin_n reckon_v these_o that_o be_v worshipper_n of_o picture_n among_o the_o superstitious_a and_o the_o vicious_a be_v plain_a and_o forbid_v we_o to_o follow_v such_o superstitious_a person_n studer_n sed_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la quà m_fw-la vana_fw-la sint_fw-la quà m_fw-la noxia_fw-la quà m_fw-la sacrilega_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la à _fw-la magnâ_fw-la parte_fw-la vestrum_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la penè_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la uâbis_fw-la non_fw-la observentur_fw-la alio_fw-la volumine_fw-la oftendere_fw-la institâi_fw-la nunc_fw-la vos_fw-la illud_fw-la admaneo_fw-la ut_fw-la aliquando_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la maledicere_fw-la definatis_fw-la vituperando_fw-la mores_fw-la hominum_fw-la quos_fw-la &_o ipsa_fw-la condemnat_fw-la &_o quos_fw-la quotidie_fw-la tanquam_fw-la malos_fw-la filion_n corrigere_fw-la studer_n but_o see_v what_o follow_v but_o how_o vain_a how_o hurtful_a how_o sacrilegious_a they_o be_v i_o have_v purpose_v to_o show_v in_o another_o volume_n then_o address_v himself_o to_o the_o manichee_n who_o upon_o the_o occasion_n of_o these_o evil_a and_o superstitious_a practice_n of_o some_o catholic_n do_v reproach_v the_o catholic_a church_n he_o say_v now_o i_o admonish_v you_o that_o at_o length_n you_o will_v give_v over_o the_o reproach_v the_o catholic_a church_n by_o reproach_v the_o manner_n of_o these_o man_n viz._n worshipper_n of_o picture_n and_o sepulchre_n and_o liver_n riotous_o over_o the_o dead_a who_o she_o herself_o condemn_v and_o who_o as_o evil_a son_n she_o endeavour_v to_o correct_v by_o these_o word_n now_o cite_v it_o appear_v plain_o that_o s._n austin_n affirm_v that_o those_o few_o christian_n who_o in_o his_o time_n do_v worship_n picture_n be_v not_o only_o superstitious_a but_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n this_o the_o letter_n writer_n deny_v s._n austin_n to_o have_v say_v but_o that_o he_o do_v say_v so_o we_o have_v his_o own_o word_n for_o witness_n yea_o but_o 2._o s._n austin_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o worshipper_n of_o picture_n alone_o what_o then_o neither_o do_v he_o of_o they_o alone_o say_v they_o be_v superstitious_a and_o their_o action_n vain_a hurtful_a and_o sacrilegious_a but_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o therefore_o he_o do_v not_o say_v so_o at_o all_o of_o these_o because_o he_o say_v it_o of_o the_o other_o too_o but_o 3._o neither_o do_v he_o formal_o call_v they_o superstition_n i_o know_v not_o what_o this_o offer_n of_o a_o answer_n mean_v certain_a it_o be_v when_o s._n austin_n have_v complain_v that_o many_o christian_n be_v superstitious_a his_o first_o instance_n be_v of_o they_o that_o worship_v picture_n and_o grave_n but_o i_o perceive_v this_o gentleman_n find_v himself_o pinch_v beyond_o remedy_n and_o like_o a_o man_n fasten_v by_o his_o thumb_n at_o the_o whipping-post_n he_o wryes_z his_o back_n and_o shrink_v from_o the_o blow_n though_o he_o know_v he_o can_v get_v loose_a in_o the_o margin_n of_o the_o dissuasive_a 13._o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o symb_n c._n 7._o contr._n adimant_n c._n 13._o there_o be_v two_o other_o testimony_n of_o s._n austin_n point_v at_o but_o the_o 27._o the_o pag._n 27._o letter_n say_v that_o in_o these_o s._n austin_n have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o any_o such_o purpose_n that_o be_v now_o to_o be_v try_v the_o purpose_n for_o which_o they_o be_v bring_v be_v to_o reprove_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o image_n it_o be_v not_o intend_v that_o all_o these_o place_n shall_v all_o speak_v or_o prove_v the_o same_o particular_a but_o that_o which_o be_v affirm_v in_o the_o text_n be_v sufficient_o verify_v by_o the_o first_o quotation_n in_o the_o margin_n the_o other_o two_o be_v full_o pertinent_a to_o the_o main_a inquiry_n and_o to_o condemnation_n of_o the_o roman_a doctrine_n as_o the_o first_o be_v of_o the_o roman_a practice_n the_o word_n be_v these_o neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v think_v that_o god_n be_v circumscribe_v in_o a_o humane_a shape_n that_o they_o who_o think_v of_o he_o shall_v fancy_v a_o right_n or_o a_o left_a side_n or_o that_o because_o the_o father_n be_v say_v to_o sit_v it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v that_o he_o do_v it_o with_o bend_a knee_n lest_o we_o fall_v into_o that_o sacrilege_n for_o which_o the_o apostle_n execrate_v they_o that_o change_v the_o glory_n of_o the_o incorruptible_a god_n into_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o corruptible_a man_n for_o for_o a_o christian_n to_o place_v such_o a_o image_n to_o god_n in_o the_o church_n be_v wickedness_n but_o much_o more_o wicked_a be_v it_o to_o place_v it_o in_o our_o heart_n so_o s._n austin_n now_o this_o testimony_n have_v be_v more_o proper_o make_v use_n of_o in_o the_o next_o section_n as_o more_o relate_v to_o the_o proper_a matter_n of_o it_o as_o be_v a_o direct_a condemnation_n of_o the_o picture_v of_o god_n but_o here_o it_o serve_v without_o any_o sensible_a error_n and_o where_o ever_o it_o be_v it_o throw_v a_o stone_n at_o they_o and_o hit_v they_o but_o of_o this_o more_o in_o the_o sequel_n but_o the_o three_o testimony_n however_o it_o please_v a._n l._n to_o deny_v it_o do_v speak_v home_n to_o his_o part_n of_o the_o question_n 13._o contr._n adimant_n c._n 13._o and_o condemn_v the_o roman_a hypothesis_n the_o word_n be_v these_o see_v that_o you_o forget_v not_o the_o testimony_n of_o your_o god_n which_o he_o write_v or_o that_o you_o make_v shape_n and_o image_n but_o it_o add_v also_o say_v your_o god_n be_v a_o consume_a fire_n and_o a_o zealous_a god_n
these_o word_n from_o the_o scripture_n adimantus_n propound_v yet_o remember_v not_o only_o there_o but_o also_o here_o concern_v the_o zeal_n of_o god_n he_o so_o blame_v the_o scripture_n that_o he_o add_v that_o which_o be_v command_v by_o our_o lord_n god_n in_o those_o book_n concern_v the_o not_o worship_v of_o image_n as_o if_o for_o nothing_o else_o he_o reprehend_v that_o zeal_n of_o god_n but_o only_o because_o by_o that_o very_a zeal_n we_o be_v forbid_v to_o worship_n image_n therefore_o he_o will_v seem_v to_o favour_v image_n which_o therefore_o they_o do_v that_o they_o may_v reconcile_v the_o good_a will_n of_o the_o pagan_n to_o their_o miserable_a and_o mad_a sect_n mean_v the_o sect_n of_o the_o manichee_n who_o to_o comply_v with_o the_o pagan_n do_v retain_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n and_o now_o the_o three_o testimony_n be_v verify_v and_o though_o this_o be_v a_o unnecessary_a trouble_n to_o i_o and_o i_o fear_v it_o may_v be_v so_o to_o my_o reader_n yet_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v get_v no_o advantage_n but_o this_o that_o in_o s._n augustine_n sense_n that_o which_o romanist_n do_v now_o the_o manichee_n do_v then_o only_o these_o do_v it_o to_o comply_v with_o the_o heathen_n and_o those_o out_o of_o direct_a and_o mere_a superstition_n but_o to_o clear_v this_o point_n in_o s._n augustine_n doctrine_n the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o read_v his_o 19_o book_n against_o faustus_n the_o manichee_n cap._n 18._o and_o the_o 119._o epistle_n against_o he_o chap._n 12._o where_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o christian_n observe_v that_o which_o the_o jew_n do_v in_o this_o viz._n that_o which_o be_v write_v hear_v o_o israel_n the_o lord_n thy_o god_n be_v one_o god_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v a_o idol_n to_o thou_o and_o such_o like_a thing_n and_o in_o the_o latter_a place_n he_o affirm_v that_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v moral_a viz._n that_o all_o of_o the_o decalogue_n be_v so_o but_o only_o the_o four_o i_o add_v a_o three_o as_o pregnant_a as_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n for_o in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr consensu_fw-la evangelistarum_fw-la speak_v of_o some_o who_o have_v fall_v into_o error_n upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o picture_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o s._n paul_n he_o say_v sic_fw-la nempe_fw-la errare_fw-la meruerunt_fw-la qui_fw-la christum_fw-la &_o apostolos_n ejus_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sanctis_fw-la condicibus_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o pictis_fw-la parietibus_fw-la quaesiverunt_fw-la the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n be_v of_o great_a concern_v in_o this_o question_n and_o do_v great_a effort_n to_o the_o roman_a practice_n 57_o e._n w._n pag._n 57_o e._n w._n take_v notice_n of_o it_o and_o his_o best_a answer_n to_o it_o be_v that_o it_o have_v often_o be_v answer_v already_o he_o say_v true_a it_o have_v be_v answer_v both_o often_o and_o many_o way_n the_o council_n be_v in_o the_o year_n 305._o of_o 19_o bishop_n who_o in_o the_o 36._o canon_n decree_v this_o placuit_fw-la picturas_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la it_o have_v please_v we_o that_o picture_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o church_n that_o be_v the_o decree_n the_o reason_n they_o give_v be_v ne_fw-la quod_fw-la colitur_fw-la &_o adoratur_fw-la in_o parietibus_fw-la depingatur_fw-la lest_o that_o which_o be_v worship_v be_v paint_v on_o the_o wall_n so_o that_o there_o be_v two_o proposition_n 1._o picture_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o church_n 2._o that_o which_o be_v worship_v ought_v not_o to_o be_v paint_v upon_o wall_n 57_o pag._n 57_o e._n w._n have_v a_o very_a learned_a note_n upon_o this_o canon_n mark_v first_o the_o council_n suppose_v worship_n and_o adoration_n due_a to_o picture_n ne_fw-la quod_fw-la colitur_fw-la &_o adoratur_fw-la by_o which_o mark_n e._n w._n confess_v that_o picture_n be_v the_o object_n of_o his_o adoration_n and_o that_o the_o council_n take_v no_o care_n and_o make_v no_o provision_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n who_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v worship_v and_o adore_v in_o church_n &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la servy_v but_o only_o be_v good_a husband_n for_o the_o picture_n for_o fear_n 1._o they_o shall_v be_v spoil_v by_o the_o moisture_n of_o the_o wall_n or_o 2._o deface_v by_o the_o heathen_a the_o first_o of_o these_o be_v bellarmine_n the_o latter_a be_v perron_n answer_v but_o too_o childish_a to_o need_v a_o severe_a consideration_n but_o how_o easy_a have_v it_o be_v for_o they_o to_o have_v command_v that_o all_o their_o picture_n shall_v have_v be_v in_o frame_n upon_o board_n or_o cloth_n as_o it_o be_v in_o many_o church_n in_o rome_n and_o other_o place_n 2._o why_o shall_v the_o bishop_n forbid_v picture_n to_o be_v in_o church_n for_o fear_n of_o spoil_v one_o kind_n of_o they_o they_o may_v have_v permit_v other_o though_o not_o these_o 3._o why_o shall_v any_o man_n be_v so_o vain_a as_o to_o think_v that_o in_o that_o age_n in_o which_o the_o christian_n be_v in_o perpetual_a dispute_n against_o the_o heathen_n for_o worship_a picture_n and_o image_n they_o shall_v be_v so_o curious_a to_o preserve_v their_o picture_n and_o reserve_v they_o for_o adoration_n 4._o but_o then_o to_o make_v picture_n to_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o that_o caution_n ne_fw-la quod_fw-la colitur_fw-la &_o adoratur_fw-la and_o not_o to_o suppose_v god_n and_o his_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o it_o be_v so_o unlike_o the_o religion_n of_o christian_n the_o piety_n of_o those_o age_n the_o oeconomy_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o analogy_n of_o the_o commandment_n that_o it_o betray_v a_o refractory_a and_o heretical_a spirit_n in_o he_o that_o shall_v so_o perverse_o invent_v a_o unreasonable_a commentary_n rather_o than_o yield_v to_o so_o pregnant_a and_o easy_a testimony_n but_o some_o be_v wise_a and_o consider_v that_o the_o council_n take_v not_o care_n that_o picture_n be_v not_o spoil_v but_o that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o what_o be_v adorable_a be_v not_o there_o paint_v and_o not_o be_v not_o there_o spoil_v the_o not_o paint_v they_o be_v the_o utmost_a of_o their_o design_n not_o the_o preserve_v they_o for_o we_o see_v vast_a number_n of_o they_o every_o where_o paint_v on_o wall_n and_o preserve_v well_o enough_o and_o easy_o repair_v upon_o decay_n therefore_o this_o be_v too_o childish_a to_o blot_v they_o out_o for_o fear_n they_o be_v spoil_v and_o not_o to_o bring_v they_o into_o church_n for_o fear_n they_o be_v take_v out_o agobardus_fw-la bishop_n of_o lion_n above_o 800._o year_n since_o cite_v this_o canon_n in_o a_o book_n of_o he_o which_o he_o write_v de_fw-la picturis_fw-la &_o imaginibus_fw-la which_o be_v publish_v by_o papirius_n massonus_n and_o thus_o illustrate_v it_o recte_fw-la say_v he_o nimirum_fw-la ob_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la evacuandam_fw-la superstitionem_fw-la ab_fw-la orthodoxis_fw-la patribus_fw-la definitum_fw-la est_fw-la picturas_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la nec_fw-la quod_fw-la eolitur_fw-la &_o adoratur_fw-la in_o parietibus_fw-la depe_v atur_fw-la where_o first_o he_o express_o affirm_v these_o father_n in_o this_o canon_n to_o have_v intend_v only_o root_n up_o this_o superstition_n not_o the_o ridiculous_a preserve_v the_o picture_n so_o it_o be_v understand_v then_o but_o then_o 2._o agobardus_n read_v it_o nec_fw-la not_o ne_fw-la quod_fw-la colitur_fw-la which_o read_v make_v the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o canon_n to_o be_v part_n of_o the_o sanction_n and_o no_o reason_n of_o the_o former_a decree_n picture_n must_v not_o be_v make_v in_o church_n neither_o aught_o that_o to_o be_v paint_v upon_o wall_n which_o be_v worship_v and_o adore_v this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o sentiment_n of_o the_o wise_a and_o good_a man_n above_o 800._o year_n since_o by_o which_o also_o the_o unreasonable_a supposition_n of_o baronius_n that_o the_o canon_n be_v not_o genuine_a be_v plain_o confute_v this_o canon_n not_o be_v only_o in_o all_o copy_n of_o that_o council_n but_o own_a for_o such_o by_o agobardus_n so_o many_o age_n before_o baronius_n and_o so_o many_o age_n after_o the_o council_n and_o he_o be_v yet_o far_o reprove_v by_o cardinal_n perron_n who_o tell_v a_o story_n that_o in_o granada_n in_o memory_n of_o this_o council_n they_o use_v frame_n for_o picture_n and_o paint_v none_o upon_o the_o wall_n at_o this_o day_n it_o seem_v they_o in_o granada_n be_v teach_v to_o understand_v that_o canon_n according_a unto_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o patron_n of_o image_n and_o to_o mistake_v the_o plain_a meaning_n of_o the_o council_n for_o the_o council_n do_v not_o forbid_v only_o to_o paint_v upon_o the_o wall_n for_o that_o according_a to_o the_o common_a read_n be_v but_o accidental_a to_o the_o decree_n but_o the_o council_n command_v that_o no_o picture_n shall_v be_v in_o church_n now-then_a let_v this_o canon_n be_v confront_v with_o the_o council_n
alexander_n honour_n you_o shall_v picture_n he_o like_o a_o bear_n tear_v and_o trample_v every_o thing_n or_o to_o exalt_v caesar_n you_o shall_v hang_v upon_o a_o table_n the_o picture_n of_o a_o fox_n and_o a_o cock_n and_o a_o lion_n and_o write_v under_o it_o this_o be_v cajus_n julius_n caesar._n but_o i_o be_o ashamed_a of_o these_o prodigious_a folly_n but_o at_o last_o why_o shall_v it_o be_v esteem_v madness_n and_o impiety_n to_o picture_n the_o nature_n of_o god_n which_o be_v invisible_a and_o not_o also_o be_v as_o great_a a_o madness_n to_o picture_n any_o shape_n of_o he_o which_o no_o man_n ever_o see_v but_o he_o that_o be_v invest_v with_o a_o thick_a cloud_n and_o encircle_v with_o a_o inaccessible_a glory_n and_o never_o draw_v aside_o the_o curtain_n to_o be_v see_v under_o any_o representment_n will_v not_o suffer_v himself_o to_o be_v expose_v to_o vulgar_a eye_n by_o fantastical_a shape_n and_o ridiculous_a form_n but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o use_v any_o such_o impious_a practice_n much_o less_o own_o so_o mad_a a_o doctrine_n for_o one_o of_o my_o adversary_n say_v that_o the_o picture_v the_o form_n or_o appearance_n of_o god_n be_v all_o that_o some_o in_o their_o church_n allow_v that_o be_v some_o do_v and_o some_o do_v not_o so_o that_o it_o may_v be_v only_o a_o private_a opinion_n of_o some_o doctor_n and_o then_o i_o be_o to_o blame_v to_o charge_v popery_n with_o it_o s._n lib_fw-la 2._o the_o reliq_n &_o imagine_v s._n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o bellarmine_n indeed_o say_v sect._n s._n cap_n 8._o sect._n non_fw-fr esse_fw-la tam_fw-la certum_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la a_o sint_fw-la faciendae_fw-la imagine_v dei_fw-la sive_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la tria_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la tria_fw-la quam_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o sanctorum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a viz._n as_o to_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o yet_o beside_o that_o bellarmine_n allow_v it_o and_o cite_v cajetan_n catharinus_n payva_n sanders_n and_o thomas_n waldensis_n for_o it_o this_o be_v a_o practice_n and_o doctrine_n bring_v in_o by_o a_o unproved_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n constat_fw-la quod_fw-la haec_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la depingendi_fw-la angelos_n &_o deum_fw-la modo_fw-la sub_fw-la specie_fw-la columbae_fw-la modo_fw-la sub_fw-la figura_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la sit_fw-la ubique_fw-la inter_fw-la catholicos_fw-la recepta_fw-la the_o picture_v angel_n and_o god_n sometime_o under_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o dove_n and_o sometime_o under_o the_o figure_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v every_o where_o receive_v among_o the_o catholic_n 3._o pujol_n de_fw-fr adorat_fw-la disp_n 3._o say_v a_o great_a man_n among_o they_o 4._o sect._n 4._o and_o to_o what_o purpose_n they_o do_v this_o we_o be_v tell_v by_o cajetan_a speak_v of_o image_n of_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n say_v 3._o in_o 3._o part_n tom._n q._n 25._o a._n 3._o haec_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la pinguntur_fw-la ut_fw-la ostendantur_fw-la sicut_fw-la cherubin_n olim_fw-la in_o templo_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la adorentur_fw-la they_o be_v paint_v that_o they_o may_v be_v worship_v ut_fw-la frequens_fw-la usus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la testatur_fw-la this_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o frequent_a use_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o this_o be_v receive_v every_o where_n among_o the_o catholic_n and_o these_o image_n be_v worship_v and_o of_o this_o there_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a custom_n and_o i_o add_v in_o their_o mass-book_n late_o print_v these_o picture_n be_v not_o infrequent_o see_v so_o that_o now_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o show_v that_o this_o beside_o the_o impiety_n of_o it_o be_v against_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o be_v a_o innovation_n in_o religion_n a_o propriety_n of_o the_o roman_a doctrine_n and_o of_o infinite_a danger_n and_o unsufferable_a impiety_n to_o some_o of_o these_o purpose_n the_o dissuasive_a allege_a tertullian_n 28._o pag._n 28._o eusebius_n and_o s._n hierom_n but_o a._n l._n say_v these_o father_n have_v nothing_o to_o this_o purpose_n this_o be_v now_o to_o be_v try_v these_o man_n be_v only_o name_v in_o the_o dissuasive_a their_o word_n be_v these_o which_o follow_v 1._o for_o tertullian_n milit_fw-la de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la milit_fw-la a_o man_n will_v think_v it_o can_v not_o be_v necessary_a to_o prove_v that_o tertullian_n think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o picture_n god_n the_o father_n when_o he_o think_v the_o whole_a art_n of_o paint_v and_o make_v image_n to_o be_v unlawful_a as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v but_o however_o let_v we_o see_v he_o be_v very_o curious_a that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v use_v by_o christian_n or_o in_o the_o service_n of_o god_n which_o be_v use_v on_o or_o by_o or_o towards_o idol_n and_o because_o they_o do_v paint_v and_o picture_n their_o idol_n cast_v or_o carve_v they_o therefore_o nothing_o of_o that_o kind_n ought_v to_o be_v in_o rebus_fw-la dei_fw-la as_o tertullian_n phrase_n be_v but_o the_o sum_n of_o his_o discourse_n be_v this_o the_o heathen_n use_v to_o picture_n their_o false_a god_n that_o indeed_o befit_v they_o idolo_fw-la de_fw-fr cor._n milit._n johannes_n filioli_fw-la inquit_fw-la custodite_fw-la vos_fw-la ab_fw-la idolis_fw-la non_fw-la jam_fw-la ab_fw-la idololatria_fw-la quasi_fw-la ab_fw-la officio_fw-la sed_fw-la ab_fw-la idolis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsâ_fw-la effigy_n eorum_fw-la indignum_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la imago_fw-la divini_fw-la imagoidoli_fw-la &_o mortui_fw-la fiat_fw-la si_fw-la enim_fw-la verbo_fw-la nudo_fw-la conditio_fw-la polluitur_fw-la ut_fw-la apostolus_fw-la docet_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la idolothytum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la contigeris_fw-la multo_fw-la magis_fw-la cum_fw-la habitu_fw-la &_o ritu_fw-la &_o apparatu_fw-la etc._n etc._n quid_fw-la enim_fw-la tam_fw-la dignum_fw-la deo_fw-la quà m_fw-la quod_fw-la indignum_fw-la idolo_fw-la but_o therefore_o be_v unfit_a for_o god_n and_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o flee_v not_o only_o from_o idolatry_n but_o from_o idol_n in_o which_o affair_n a_o word_n do_v change_v the_o case_n and_o that_o which_o before_o it_o be_v say_v to_o appertain_v to_o idol_n be_v lawful_a by_o that_o very_a word_n be_v make_v unlawful_a and_o therefore_o much_o more_o by_o a_o shape_n or_o figure_n and_o therefore_o flee_v from_o the_o shape_n of_o they_o for_o it_o be_v a_o unworthy_a thing_n that_o the_o image_n of_o the_o live_a god_n shall_v be_v make_v the_o image_n of_o a_o idol_n or_o a_o dead_a thing_n for_o the_o idol_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v silver_n and_o gold_n and_o have_v eye_n without_o sight_n and_o nose_n without_o smell_n and_o hand_n without_o feeling_n so_o far_o tertullian_n argue_v and_o what_o can_v more_o plain_o give_v his_o sense_n and_o meaning_n in_o this_o article_n if_o the_o very_a image_n of_o a_o idol_n be_v unlawful_a much_o more_o be_v it_o unlawful_a to_o make_v a_o image_n or_o idol_n of_o the_o live_a god_n or_o represent_v he_o by_o the_o image_n of_o a_o dead_a man_n but_o this_o argument_n be_v further_a and_o more_o plain_o set_v down_o by_o athanasius_n who_o book_n against_o the_o gentile_n be_v spend_v in_o reprove_v the_o image_n of_o god_n real_a or_o imaginary_a insomuch_o that_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o gentile_n dishonour_v even_o their_o false_a god_n by_o make_v image_n of_o they_o and_o that_o they_o may_v better_o have_v pass_v for_o god_n if_o they_o have_v not_o represent_v they_o by_o visible_a image_n and_o therefore_o that_o the_o religion_n of_o make_v image_n of_o their_o god_n gentiles_n nam_fw-la si_fw-la ut_fw-la dicitis_fw-la literarum_fw-la instar_fw-la dei_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la signant_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la acsi_fw-la deum_fw-la significantia_fw-la divinis_fw-la dignae_fw-la censentur_fw-la honoribus_fw-la cerrè_fw-la qui_fw-la ea_fw-la sculpâit_fw-la eisque_fw-la effigiem_fw-la dedit_fw-la multo_fw-la magis_fw-la hos_fw-la promerebatur_fw-la honores_fw-la et_fw-la paulò_fw-la post_fw-la quocircae_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la religio_fw-la deorumque_fw-la fictio_fw-la non_fw-la pietatis_fw-la esse_fw-la sed_fw-la iniquitatis_fw-la invectio_fw-la veritatis_fw-la via_fw-la ad_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la veruâ_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la diriget_fw-la ad_fw-la eum_fw-la verò_fw-la âognoscendum_fw-la &_o exactissimè_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la nullius_fw-la extrà _fw-la nos_fw-la positae_fw-la rei_fw-la opem_fw-la necessariam_fw-la haebemus_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la interrogat_fw-la quanam_fw-la ista_fw-la sit_fw-la vâiuscujusque_fw-la animam_fw-la esse_fw-la dixerim_fw-la atque_fw-la insitam_fw-la illam_fw-la intelligentiam_fw-la per_fw-la ipsam_fw-la enim_fw-la solam_fw-la deus_fw-la inspiciet_fw-la &_o intelligi_fw-la potest_fw-la orat._n contr_n gentiles_n be_v not_o piety_n but_o impious_a for_o to_o know_v god_n we_o need_v no_o outward_a thing_n the_o way_n of_o truth_n will_v direct_v we_o to_o he_o and_o if_o any_o man_n ask_v which_o be_v that_o way_n viz._n to_o know_v god_n i_o shall_v say_v it_o be_v the_o soul_n of_o a_o man_n and_o that_o understanding_n which_o be_v plant_v in_o we_o for_o by_o that_o alone_a god_n can_v be_v see_v and_o understand_v the_o same_o father_n do_v
heretic_n or_o his_o tenet_n as_o heresy_n but_o this_o be_v so_o notorious_o false_a as_o nothing_o be_v more_o and_o it_o be_v infinite_o confute_v by_o all_o the_o catalogue_n and_o book_n of_o the_o father_n reckon_v the_o heresy_n where_o they_o be_v please_v to_o call_v all_o opinion_n they_o like_v not_o by_o the_o name_n of_o heresy_n 90._o haeres_fw-la 90._o philastrius_n write_v against_o they_o as_o heretic_n and_o put_v they_o in_o his_o black_a catalogue_n who_o expound_v that_o of_o make_v man_n in_o the_o image_n and_o likeness_n of_o god_n speak_v of_o in_o genesis_n to_o signify_v the_o reasonable_a soul_n and_o not_o rather_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n he_o also_o account_v they_o heretic_n who_o reject_v the_o lxx_o and_o follow_v the_o translation_n of_o aquila_n which_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v in_o great_a reputation_n some_o there_o be_v who_o say_v that_o god_n harden_v the_o heart_n of_o pharaoh_n 77._o haeres_fw-la 77._o and_o these_o he_o call_v heretic_n and_o yet_o this_o heresy_n be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o scripture_n 71._o haeres_fw-la 71._o and_o some_o be_v reckon_v heretic_n for_o say_v that_o the_o deluge_n of_o deucalion_n and_o pyrrha_n be_v before_o noah_n flood_n but_o more_o consider_v able_a be_v that_o heresy_n 74._o haeres_fw-la 74._o which_o affirm_v that_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n and_o there_o preach_v to_o the_o detain_v that_o they_o who_o will_v confess_v he_o may_v be_v save_v now_o if_o philastrius_n or_o any_o other_o writer_n of_o heretic_n be_v in_o this_o case_n infallible_a what_o shall_v become_v of_o many_o of_o the_o orthodox_n father_n who_o teach_v this_o now_o condemn_a doctrine_n so_o do_v clemens_n alexandrinus_n anastasius_n sinaita_n s._n athanasius_n s._n hierom_n s._n ambrose_n and_o divers_a other_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a father_n and_o s._n austin_n affirm_v that_o christ_n do_v save_v some_o but_o whether_o all_o the_o damn_a then_o or_o no_o he_o can_v not_o resolve_v euodius_n who_o ask_v the_o question_n pp_n question_n vide_fw-la jacob._n vsser_n primate_n hibern_n cap._n the_o limbo_n pp_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o swear_v at_o all_o upon_o any_o account_n be_v unanimous_o teach_v by_o s._n hilary_n and_o s._n hierom_n s._n chrysostom_n s._n ambrose_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi 1532_o theophylact_fw-mi vide_fw-la erasmum_fw-la in_o declarat_fw-la ad_fw-la censuras_fw-la facult_a thed_a paris_n p._n 52._o edit_n froben_n a._n d._n 1532_o no_o not_o cum_fw-la exigitur_fw-la jusjurandum_a aut_fw-la cum_fw-la urget_fw-la necessitas_fw-la and_o that_o it_o be_v crimen_fw-la gehenna_n dignum_fw-la a_o damnable_a sin_n whether_o that_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o those_o day_n i_o say_v not_o but_o if_o it_o be_v why_o be_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n now_o if_o it_o be_v not_o than_o a_o consent_a testimony_n of_o many_o father_n even_o of_o the_o great_a rank_n be_v no_o irrefragable_a argument_n of_o the_o truth_n or_o catholic_a tradition_n and_o from_o so_o great_a a_o union_n of_o such_o a_o authority_n it_o be_v not_o very_o hard_a to_o imagine_v that_o the_o opinion_n may_v have_v become_v catholic_n from_o a_o lesser_a spring_n great_a stream_n have_v issue_v but_o it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a that_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_a oral_a tradition_n concern_v this_o main_a and_o concern_v article_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a i._n s._n will_v think_v that_o all_o these_o father_n be_v not_o only_o fallible_a but_o deceive_v actual_o in_o this_o point_n by_o these_o few_o instance_n we_o may_v plain_o see_v what_o little_a of_o infallibility_n there_o be_v in_o the_o father_n writing_n when_o they_o write_v against_o heretic_n or_o heresy_n or_o against_o any_o article_n and_o how_o then_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o the_o father_n be_v at_o all_o or_o in_o any_o case_n infallible_a i_o know_v not_o from_o any_o thing_n more_o that_o be_v say_v by_o i._n s._n but_o this_o i_o know_v that_o many_o chief_a man_n of_o his_o side_n do_v speak_v so_o slight_o and_o undervalue_v the_o father_n so_o pert_o that_o i_o fear_v it_o will_v appear_v that_o the_o protestant_n have_v better_a opinion_n of_o they_o and_o make_v better_a use_n of_o the_o father_n than_o themselves_o pentateuch_n praefat._n in_o pentateuch_n what_o think_v we_o of_o the_o say_n of_o cardinal_n cajetan_n if_o you_o chance_v to_o meet_v with_o any_o new_a exposition_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o text_n etc._n etc._n although_o perhaps_o it_o differ_v from_o that_o which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o whole_a current_n of_o the_o holy_a doctor_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n that_o they_o will_v not_o too_o hasty_o reject_v it_o and_o again_o let_v no_o man_n therefore_o reject_v a_o new_a exposition_n of_o any_o passage_n of_o scripture_n under_o pretence_n that_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o what_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n give_v 244._o in_o epiph._n p._n 244._o what_o think_v we_o of_o those_o word_n of_o petavius_n there_o be_v many_o thing_n by_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n scatter_v especial_o s._n chrysostom_n in_o his_o homily_n which_o if_o you_o will_v accommodate_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o exact_a truth_n they_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v void_a of_o good_a sense_n 110._o p._n 110._o and_o again_o there_o be_v cause_n why_o the_o authority_n of_o certain_a father_n shall_v be_v object_v for_o they_o can_v say_v nothing_o but_o what_o they_o have_v learn_v from_o s._n luke_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o reason_n why_o we_o shall_v rather_o interpret_v s._n luke_n by_o they_o than_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o say_v by_o s._n luke_n and_o maldonate_fw-it do_v express_o reject_v the_o exposition_n which_o all_o the_o author_n 18._o in_o matth._n 16._o 18._o which_o he_o have_v read_v except_o s._n hilary_n give_v of_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o 7._o de_fw-fr sacr_n tom_fw-mi orig_n &_o continentiâ_fw-la apud_fw-la bellar._n de_fw-fr cler._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 15._o vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la hist._n conc._n trident_n l._n 7._o michael_n nedina_n accuse_v s._n hierom_n as_o be_v of_o the_o aerian_a heresy_n in_o the_o qu._n of_o episcopacy_n and_o he_o proceed_v further_a to_o accuse_v s._n ambrose_n s._n austin_n sedulius_n primasius_n chrysostom_n theodoret_n oecumenius_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi of_o the_o same_o heresy_n and_o cornelius_n mussus_n the_o bishop_n of_o bitonto_n express_o affirm_v that_o he_o have_v rather_o believe_v one_o single_a pope_n 14._o in_o epist._n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 14._o than_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n hierom_n or_o gregory_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v any_o further_a to_o instance_n how_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v decree_v many_o thing_n against_o the_o general_a doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n as_o in_o the_o place_n image_n in_o church_n the_o deny_v of_o the_o eucharist_n to_o infant_n the_o not_o include_v the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n in_o the_o general_a evil_n of_o mankind_n in_o the_o imputation_n of_o adam_n sin_n deny_v the_o chalice_n to_o the_o laity_n and_o priest_n not_o officiate_a the_o beatification_n and_o divine_a vision_n of_o saint_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n if_o it_o be_v not_o notorious_a and_o sometime_o confess_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o a_o troop_n of_o father_n there_o may_v be_v some_o excuse_n make_v for_o they_o who_o give_v they_o good_a word_n and_o yet_o reject_v their_o authority_n so_o free_o that_o it_o sometime_o seem_v to_o pass_v into_o scorn_n but_o now_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v to_o little_a purpose_n 4._o sess._n 4._o that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n enjoin_v her_o clergy_n that_o they_o offer_v not_o to_o expound_v scripture_n against_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n for_o though_o this_o amount_v not_o to_o the_o height_n of_o i._o s._n his_o say_n it_o be_v their_o avow_a and_o constant_a doctrine_n that_o they_o be_v infallible_a but_o ad_fw-la coercenda_fw-la petulantia_fw-la ingenia_fw-la the_o contrary_a be_v do_v and_o avow_v every_o day_n and_o as_o the_o father_n prove_v themselves_o fallible_a both_o as_o such_o in_o write_v against_o heretic_n and_o in_o testify_v concern_v the_o church_n doctrine_n in_o their_o age_n so_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n in_o which_o although_o there_o be_v no_o universal_a consent_n of_o father_n in_o any_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n concern_v which_o question_n move_v so_o the_o best_a and_o most_o common_a consent_n that_o be_v man_n of_o great_a note_n recede_v from_o it_o with_o the_o great_a boldness_n by_o how_o much_o they_o hope_v to_o raise_v to_o themselves_o the_o great_a reputation_n for_o wit_n and_o learning_n 11._o sess._n 11._o and_o therefore_o although_o in_o the_o six_o general_n council_n the_o origenist_n be_v condemn_v for_o bring_v