can faine or imagin But I vvill bee so bold as to take this meanes from theÌ„ and then I vvill aske them hovv they knovve that the nevve and old testameÌ„t are not meere fables and fictioÌ„s as the Atheistes say that they are For they are of opinion that the Romaine Church maye deceue bee deceeued and therfore they vvill not beleeue her for the number of canonicall bookes nor for the meaning of scripture hovv then can they credit her vvhen shee defineth that the old and nevve testament are holy scripture her authoritie is one and the same in the affirmation of this and of other thiges if theÌ„ they beleeue her not in those thinges they caÌ„ not beleeue her in this For as if the Astrologer saye that to morrovv shall be rayne that vvith in three monethes ther shall bee rayne I caÌ„ not beleeue this to bee true for his assertion vnlesse I also beleeue that bicause his authoritie is the same and yet I maye beleeue rather that vvithin three monethes vvee shall hauerayne theÌ„ that to morrovv vvee shall haue rayne bicause that in it selfe is more likely so if vvee beleeue one thing vvhich the Romain Church affirmethe and not another vvee beleeue not any thing bicause shee sayeth so but ether for the probalitie of the thinge or for some other reason vvhich pleasethe vs. Vvherfore seing that out reformers beleeue not the Romain Church in all pointes it must neede follovve that they can not beleeue that the old and nevve testament are holy scriptures bicause shee sayeth so but for some other imaginations vv ch they haue for if they belecued this bicause shee sayeth so they vvould beleeue other thinges also vvhich shee auouchethe bicause her authoritie being the same deserueth the same credit in the one and in the other But let vs suppose that they beleeue that the old and nevv testament are holy scripture bicause the RomaiÌ„ Church sayeth so yet bicause they affirme that the Romaine Church maye lye and hathe also lyed loudly in many importaunt matters it follovveth that they haue herby no assuraunce of Scripture bicause as the Church in their opinion hathe erred in other thinges so may she in this if she may peraduenture she hathe erred and so they haue no assuraunce of scripture They vvill saye peraduentur that they are assured by tradition froÌ„ tyme out of mynde vnto this present that those bookes are holye Scripture bicause our forfathers euer esteemed them soe But nether can this bee a sufficient vvarrauut bicause they are vvont to saye that all thinges necessarie to bee beleeued are conteined in scripture and that therfore they vvill beleeue no traditions And if they beleeue that these bookes are holy scripture bicause by tradition so it is deliuered vnto them vvhy do they not beleeue the real presence and the Sacrifice of the Masse Vvhy coÌ„temne they the Fast of lent Images holy vvater the signe of the crosse such like vvhich vvee haue by the same tradition by vvhich vve haue the scriptures Yea seing that Tradition is nothing else but an opinioÌ„ or custome of the Churche not vvritten in holy vvritte but yet deliuered by the handes of the Churche from tyme to tyme and from Christians to ChristiaÌ„s euen vnto the last age and Christians if the Churche can erre she may allovv of euil traditions and so traditions also may bee erroneous coÌ„sequently can be noe sufficient vvarrant vnto the Reformers for the authoritie of holy scripture They vvill say peraduenture that they beleeue most voices and therfore seing that all the vvorld allovveth these bookes for holy scripture they vvill ioine vvith them in this opinion bicause the voice of the people is the voice of God but nether can this voice assure theÌ„ for ether they vnderstand by this commoÌ„ voice the voice of the vvholle vvorld or the voice of the Christian vvorld if they meane the voice of the vvholle vvorld theÌ„ haue they moe voices against them then for them bicause the greatest parte of the vvorld vvas euer Pagane if they meane the ChristiaÌ„ vvorld then in deed the most voices are for Scripture bicause the Catholike Church vvhich allovveth of scripture vvas is and shal be the greatest part of Christianitie but bicause they saye that this Church may erre they can haue no assuraunce of scripture by this voice They vvill saye peradueÌ„ture that they belceue that scâ—ipture is the vvord of God bicause their ovvn Churche vvhich is the true Churche affirmeth it to be so But nether vvill this shifte serue their turne Bicause first of all they caÌ„ not proue their Churche to bee the true Churche not their Pastours to be the true Pastours Bicause their Church hathe not the markes of the true Churche hauing nether succession from the Churche planted by the Apostles vvhich should make it Apostolique nether hauing euer possessed the greatest parte of the knovvn vvorld vv ch should make it Catholike and being so farre froÌ„ being one that it is diuided into coÌ„trarie sectes so farre also from being holy that it leadeth to all vice and Atheisme yea hauing all the Markes of heresie as my second booke demonstrateth As for their pastours they can not proue their mission as also is proued But if I should graunt them that their Church is the true Church yet by their Churches vvarraunt they can haue no assuraunce of Scripture bicause they are of opinioÌ„ that the true Church maye erre and consequeÌ„tly their Church also maye erre and if it maye erre in other thinges it may erre in this and if it may erre in this peradueÌ„ture it hath erred in this and so they haue no assuraunce of Scripture Vvherfore laying a side the Churches authoritie as insufficient in their opinion I demaund vvhat assuraunce they haue of scripture They can not alleage Scripture to proue scripture bicause no part of scripture affirmeth that the bookes called Scripture are the vvord of God dictated and indighted by his spirit And if Scripture did affirme it selfe to be holy Scripture yet vvere not that a sufficient vvarraunt for as I may doubt vvhether the bookes called Scripture be the vvord of God so may I doubte of that testimonie vvhich scripture giueth of her selfe vnlesse by some other meanes I bee assured that these vvritinges are the vvord of God They vvill say peraduenâ— that the very maiestie of the phrase of Scripture and the diuine matters and mysteries vvhich it conteinethe do argue that it is the vvord of God But this ansvvere is also insufficieÌ„t bicause to a vvordly man or Prophane Philosopher the stile of Scripture seemeth base and barbarous and the mysteries seeme to bee nothing else but dreames and imaginations the histories seeme tales and the matters seeme ether follies or impossibilities and so they vvould seeme vnto vs also vvere it not that vvee haue a reuerent conceite of them bicause vvee beleeue them to bee the vvord of God Vvherfore Iulian the Apostata Celsus Porphirius Apion
doltes and Asses that Appelles vvas but a blurting painter that Cicero vvas but a railiÌ„g Rhetorician that Virgil Ouid vvere but riming Poets Vvhose eares could abide such coÌ„tumelies Think then indifferent reader hovv fovvle mouthed the heretiques of this age are vvho thus miscall the ancient fathers renovvmed for their skill in interpretatioÌ„ of scriptur and other learning as appeareth by their learned commentaries homelies and other vvorkes Think hovv arrogaÌ„t these men are vvho preferre them selues before all ancient fathers euen in that learning vvhich vvas their profession and for vvhich they haue been for many hundred yeares as famouse as euer Cicero vvas for eloquence Aristotle for Philosophie or Virgil Ouid for Poetrie But vvhilest they contemne the authoritie of ancient fathers vvhat greater authoritie do they bringe but vpstarte and vnlearned ministers Vvhilest they reiect the fathers as meÌ„ vvho mighterre are they godds or angells are not they men as the fathers vvere and not vvorthy to be their men seruauntes to cary their books after them But novve accordiÌ„g to my promise I vvil declare the first pointe by me proposed to vvit hovv in reiecting fathers they cracke their ovvne credit For these fathers vvere learned graue vvise gloriouse in vvorking miracles and great in bearing of authoritie in the Churche of God Their profession vvas preaching teaching and interpretiÌ„g of scripture in vvhich arte they are ancient and famouse for many hundred yeares Some of theÌ„ vvere schollers to the Apostles others succeeded immediatly the Apostles schollers The nevv Apostles are nevv and yong vvho beganne but the other day to study and to interprete scriptures and peraduenture many of them vvould neuer haue bene able to make a sermon had they not the helpe of the fathers commentaries homelies Let then the indifferent reader be iudge vvhether the religioÌ„ vvhich the fathers taught and professed or that vvhich these nevv Apostles haue deuised be likest to be true and vvhether it be not more probable that they preached teached according vnto scripture rather then our nevv and later Bible-clerkes Truly to say that a Luther Caluin Zuinglins Beza is herin to be preferred before Austines Ambroses Hieromes Gregories vvere as absurdly spoken as if one should preferre the painters of these dayes before Appelles or the Phisitions of this age before Galen More ouer vvhere these fathers vvent ther alvvaies vvente religion vvhere they vvere Doctours that vvas the Churche of Christe vvher they vvere pastours ther vvas allvvayes the folde of Christe of them coÌ„sisted all the general councells by them vvere the ancient Canons decreed and old heresies condemned all the Bishoprikes seas and Churches by them vvere gouerned and by their meanes erected They vvere the men vvho in all ages opposed them selues against heretiques as true pastours against the rauening vvolues vvho had only the coate of shepheards against them their people vvere raysed all the persecutions as against the only Christianes their actions their offices in God his Church their bookes their miracles their liues their deathes do fill Ecclesiasticall histories the vvriters vvherof intending to vvrite the begining progress of the Christian Church vvrite only of the Romaine and Catholike Churche the pastours and Doctours vvherof vvere the ancient fathers So that vvhilest our reformers refuse the authoritie doctrine of the fathers they cut them selues from the Church of Christe bicause that the fathers as all histories monumeÌ„tes declare vveÌ„t euer together and they ioyne in parte vvith all old heretikes vvhoÌ„ the fathers by doctrine and censure euer condemned bicause in one heresie or other they aggree vvith them all as shal be in the next booke demonstrated and they let not to coÌ„fesse vvith Tobie Matthevv that no man can read fathers and beleeue them imbrace this nevv religion Read Genebrard gentle reader and thou shalt see hovv in the end of euery age he setteth dovvne a catalogue of all the ancient fathers vvho vvere counted the only true pastours as allso a liste of all the heretikes them the Catholiques vvhich novv liue professe to follovv as the heretikes of this age vvill confesse those infamous heretikes the reformers adore embrace their doctrine as I shall proue hereafter in the second booke Iudge thou then vvhether the Church and Christian religioÌ„ be vvith these reformers and reuilers of fathers or vvith the Catholiques vhom they haue Nicknamed Papistes This argument of the fathers authoritie put Luther many tymes to his trompes and sometymes afflicted him vvith no litle scrouples but bicause he had a large coÌ„science he svvallovved them vp Praefat l. de abrog missâ— priuata in tyme digested them all Hovv often say eth he did my trembling harte beat vvith in me and reprehending me obiect against me that most stronge argument Art thou only vvise Do so many vvorldes erre Vvere so many ages ignoraunt Vvhat if thou errest and dravvest so many into errour to be damned vvith thee aeternallie And in an other place To. 5. annâ—â— breniss Doest thou a sole man and of no accounte take vppon thee so great matters Vvhat if thou being but one man offendest If God permit such so many and all to erre vvhy may he not permit the to erre Hether to apperteyn those arguments The Churche the Churche the fathers the fathers the Councells the custome the multitudes greatnes of vvise men Vvhom do not these hilles of argumentes To. â— in Gal. these cloudes yea these seas of examples ouer-vvhelme And yet again this scrouple assaulteâ—h him Some sayeth he vvill say vnto me The Churche so many ages hath so thought and taught So haue thought taught all the primitiue Churches and Doctoures most holymen much more great and more learned then thou Vvho art thou that darest dissent from all these and obtrude vnto vs a diuerse doctrine Thus God moued Luthers hart vvhich might haue been a sufficient calle to haue recalled and reclaimed him but he being obstinate thus put this motion by Vvhen satan thus vrgeth and conspireth vvith flesh and reason the conscience is terrified and despaireth vnless constantly thou retourn to thy selfe and say vvhether Cipriane Ambrose Austin or Peter Paule and Ihon yea an angell from heauen teach other-vvise yet this I knovve for certain that I counsayle not men to humane but diuine thinges Art thou sure Luther vvhen thou hast so many Se Reinolds in his refut c. â— and so learned fathers against thee Darest thou preferr thy ovvne particuler iudgment before their common consent Yea layeth M. Vvhitakar Luther in some case may prefer him selfe before all the fathers a thousand Churches For vvhen his doctrine is according to scripture then is it to giue place to noe fathers But this is as much to the purpose as the patch beside the hole bicause the coÌ„parison is not betvvixt fathers and scriptures vvhich are to be preferred bicause the fathers allovved and alleaged scripture euen for those pointes of doctrine for vvhich Luther
against certain hereticall Bishops that sayed that Christs diuinitie suffred on the crosse for he vvhen he hard that they vver come to speake vvith him coÌ„maunded his man presently after their entrauÌ„ce to vvhisper him in the eare vv ch being doon accordingly Alamundarus started at the vvhispering and seemed astonished The Bishops thinking that his man had told him some euil nevves demaunded vvhat it vvas at vvhich he vvas amazed My man sayeth he telles me that Michael the ArchaÌ„gell is dead Tush Tush sayed they that nevves can not be true bicause angels can not dye Can not Angells dye sayed Alamundarus and thinke you that God his diuinitie could suffer Anno 1554. Melancthon in his book of common places and in diuers other places hath these propositions l. cont Stanâ— ep ad Elect. The sonne of God according vnto his diuinitie prayed vnto his father for his Kingdom glorie and inheritaunce The diuine nature of the sonne Ep. 2â— tract pag. 994. vvas obedient to his father in his Passion The like saying hath Beza yea and Caluin also Is not this to deny Christes diuinitie and coaequalitie vvith his father For vvho but an inferiour prayeth â—â—is Kemn epud Bel to 1. l 3. de Christo in initior Lut ser de 〈◊〉 Domini â—0 â— Vvho but an inferiour obeyeth The Lutherane Vbiquetaries also vvho affirme that the diuine attributes are really coÌ„municated vnto Christes humain nature and that in such sorte that the humain nature vvas immense and omnipotent as the diuinitie vvas destroye Christes diuinitie vvilest they extoll his humanitie for by this doctrine it follovveth that Christes diuinitie vvas nothing else but his humaine nature deified really turned into diuinitie seing that humain nature can not in this manner participate of the diuinitie it follovveth that Christ is not true god bicause he hath not true diuinitie For allthoughe by incarnation man vvas God and so consequentely immense and omnipotent by a certaine communication vvhich diuines calle coÌ„municatio idiomatum Yet the humanitie could neuer really be the diuinitie nor omnipoteÌ„cie nor any other diuine attribute And to come to Caluin Li cont Valentinct Genâ—lem he sayeth plainly that the name of god aggreeth to the Father 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 per excellentiam by excellencie Vv ch if it be so then god the sonne is not so Excellent a god as the Father and consequently no god at all He also in diuerse places auoucheth that Christ is not god of god as the Nicen Councell calleth him li 1. Inst c 1â— 9.19.23.31 he denyeth that by eternall generation God the sonne hath his essence from his father yea sayeth he in the last place quoted in the margent the essence of the sonne is no more generated then the essence of the father To vvhom in this point subscribeth our countriman vvhitaker in his booke against ffather Campian pag. 1â—3 O blasphemie of them that vvill needs be counted reformed Christians better vvere it to deny Christ flatly then to professe his name and yet vnder hand to disgrace him for dissembled religion is double iniquitie Is not Christ God of God the father then is he some other God hath he not his essence from his father Then is he not the sonne of God bicause the sonne takes his substaunce from his father Is not the sonnes essence generated then is not the sonne begotten of his fathers substauÌ„ce then is he not consubstaÌ„tiall to his father but rather of another nature coÌ„sequeÌ„tly ether a creature or another God The diuines grauÌ„t that the esseÌ„ce diuinitie absolutelie vvithout addition is not to be sayed to be generated for then it should be generated in God the father also but yet they affirme that God the sonne is God of God and begotten of his father and that by eternall generation he receiueth vvith out all imperfectioÌ„ his essence from his father and consequently that the essence is generated not absolutedly but in the sonne else vvere hee not a sonne nether should he be coÌ„substantiall to his father Ep duabus ad Polon Pet. Mar. duab ep Kem. l. de duahus nat Mel. loc c. de filio The same Caluin accompanyed vvith diuers others bothe Caluinists and Lutheranes affirmeth that Christ accordiÌ„g to his diuinitie vvas Preest and mediatour To vvhom Ievvel in his booke against Harding subscribeth Ievvellus ae 17. vvhere he sayeth that in Christ ther vvere tvvo natures the diuinitie and the humanitie and that the humanitie vvas offered in sacrifice but the diuinitie played the preest and offered vp this sacrifice Se here another blasphemie Is Christ preest according to his diuinitie Did his diuine nature offer vnto the father the sacrifice of the humain nature then certes Christ vvas not only as man but also in respect of his diuinitie inferiour to his father for the Preest is inferiour to the God to vvhome hee offereth sacrifice bicause in oblation of a sacrifice he acknovvledgeth God the supreme excellencie and so vvas ether a creature or a lesser God and so noe God at all The ancient fathers diuines do graunt that the same Iesus Christ vvas Mediatour betvvixt God and man and God also to vvhom Mediation vvas made by reason of his tvvoe natures subsisting in one person for a Mediatour like a meane must participate of bothe extremes and therfore sithe man had offended and God vvas offeÌ„ded the Mediatour must be God man participaÌ„t of bothe for God only could not satisfie bicause he could not suffer maÌ„ only could not satisfie bicause his satisfactioÌ„ vvould haue been less theÌ„ vvas the iniurie vvherfore it vvas necessarie that one vvho vvas bothe God man should make this mediatioÌ„ and satisfaction And so the same Iesus Christ God and man satisfied but not as God but as man and he as the person offended receiued also the satisfaction but not as man but as God In like maÌ„ner the same Christe Iesus vvas the Preest the sacrifice and the God to vvhome this sacrifice vvas offered And so Christ vvas the preest but not as God but as man for in this only respect Christ had a superiour to vvhoÌ„ hee might offer a sacrifice Christ also vvas the sacrifice but as man for his humaine nature only suffered And Christ also vvas he to vvhome the sacrfice vvas offered but as God for so hee vvas noe lesse offended and iniuried by mans sinne then god the father I referre the Reader to a booke vvhich one Aegidius Hunnius a Lutherane hath vvritten against Caluin in vvhich he declareth hovv Caluin still expoundeth the old and nevv Testament in fauour of the Ievves Caluinus ludaizans as thoughe the places spake not of Christe and therfore this man calleth his booke Caluinus Iudaizans Caluin playing the Ievve Tell mee novv gentle Reader vvhether these men as they say do attribute all vnto Christ vvhoe as thou hast harde doe despoyle him of his greatest titles of honour that is God the
them vvel bestovved bicause they haue the revvard I looked for if thou doe not yet are they not loste quia aliquid est voluisse bicause some thing it is to haue desired thy good and I haue taken no more paynes then thy good deserued If the stile of my booke please thee-not refuse not gold bicause it is ill fashioned and remember that though the autour bee thy countriman by byrthe yet he is more a straunger then an English-man by educatioÌ„ If thou fynde faultes in the printing yet fynd not faulte vvith the Printer he knevv vvhat he did bicause he vnderstood not vvhat he printed and I had not the leisure allvvayes to ouer see his labours If I seeme to speake to sharpely some tymes it is not for any toothe against any person but for hatred of heresie And if thou take this my impolished vvorke in good vvorthe thou vvilte giue me the occasion and courage to take in hande another in vvhich I shall explane as I haue in parte allready and make as plaine and plausible those pointes of the Catholike Religion to vvit Indulgences Merit SatisfactioÌ„ vvorship of Saintes Images and Reliques vvith many such other vvhich seeme to the deceiued to imply iniurie to Christe or absurditie as I haue discouered the grosse errours of the Nevve Religion But novv for a Vale and freindly farevvel I beseech the to take this counsaile at my handes Build not vppon that not so flattering as false opinion vvher vvith many vse to comforte them selues to vvit that thou maiest be saued in any religion My second booke vvill assure thee that vvithout a true and intier faith it is impossible to please God and that out of the true Church See the second booke and 4. chap. there is noe saluation As God is but one the truthe but one so his Religion Church and vvorship is but one This Church and Religion is not to be found amongest the reformers as my second booke vvill tell thee bicause it hathe all the markes of heresie It is only to be found amongest the Catholikes vvho are Nicknamed Papistes as thou mayest see by the same booke and by some chapters of the first booke and by other partes of the other bookes euidently demonstrated The Catholike Church then is the hauen of Securitie to vvhich thou must repayre It is the porte of Saluation the Arke vvherin Noe lodgeth his familie that is Christe and his faithfull people It is the barne vvhere the good corne is layed vp till the vvinovving day It is the folde of Christes Sheepe The piller of truthe The treasure-hovvse of Christes Graces The Shoppe of spiritual Negotiation The lande of promise The paradise of the second Adame The Temple of the second Salomon The misticall body of Christe The terrestrial heauen of those that hope to be blessed The only vvay to life euerlasting If then thou desire to be free from tempests and contrarie vvindes of disagreeing heresies direct thy ship and saile to this quiet hauen if thou vvilt not make shipvvrake of thy soule fly to this porte of Saluation If thou vvilte not be drovvned in the deluge of sinne or Infidelitie haue recourse vnto this Arke out of vvhich none can escape damnation If thou vvilte be of Christes chosen corne repose thy selfe in this his barne vv ch is the only place of purging from the chaffe of sinne If thou vvilte be one of Christes flocke ronne to his folde that thou mayest be fedd vvith his sheepe If thou vvilte be sure of the truthe keepe thy standing vppon the piller of truthe If thou vvilte bee enritched vvith Christes spiritual treasures this is the treasure hovvse of all his graces If thou vvilte traffique for heauen and heauenly merchandise enter the Shopp of Christe I meane his Church the only place of merit and Christian negotiation If thou vvilte be pertaker of Christes promises dvvell in the lande of all his promises If thou vvilte enâ—â—y faelicitie enter into this Paradise of the second A. dame If thou vvilte honour God vvith true sacrifice and vvorship this is the only Temple out of vvhich nether prayers nor oblations nor sacrifices are pleasing If thou vvilte receue any influence and motion from Christe the Head incorporate thy selfe to the Church his mystical body and if thou vvilte bee pertaker of his spirite vvth is the soule and life of this body dismember not thy selfe that thou mayest be a liuely member If thou vvilte enioy the blisse of Angels in the vpper heauen enter first into this lovver heauen out of vvhich is no hope to ascend to the higher If thou vvilte attaine to life euerlasting passe by the Church it is the only vvaye If thou vvilt bee one of the Church triumphaunt bee first one of the Church militaunte and if thou vvilte haue God for thy father take his Churche for thy Mother Nothing more dangerous then to liue out of this Churche and no surer damnation then to dy out of this Churche Be not carelesse therfore in seeking out this Churche and vvhen thou hast found it differre not thy entraunce It is thy greatest affaire and a matter of most importaunce bicause theron depeÌ„deth not a temporall state of thy body but aeternall saluation or damnatioÌ„ both of soule and body Farevvell and pray for him that vvisheth thee vvell and prayeth for thee that thou mayste do vvell Iul. 18. an Dom. 1603. MATTHEVV KEL THE FIRST BOOKE CONTEINETH A SVRuey of the groundes and fondation of this nevv religion on vvhich it may seeme to relye vvhich ether are the authoritie of their preachers or the euidence of scriptures vvhich they alleage or their priuate spirit or credible and probable testimonies or some visible iudge vvho determineth of controuersies for vvant of vvhich it is proued that if vve receiue this nevv religion vve open the gappe to all heretikes and heresies The first chapter examineth the mission of the preachers of this nevv religion and proueth that they cannot proue them selues to be sent from Christ and that consequentlie vve cannot gine eare vnto them vnles vve vvill harken also vnto all false prophetes HARDLIE shall vve fynde a subiect so disloyall or priuate man so imprudent vvho vvill arrogate vnto him self the honourable office of an Imbassadour to deale betvvixt Prince and Prince in denounicinge vvarre or offeringe peace of in establishinge a nevv league or renevvinge an olde vnles he haue authoritie from his Prince in vvhose name he dealeth and canne by letters of credit or other tokens make an euident remoÌ„strance of his legatine povver and commissioÌ„ For if he goe vnsent he abuseth his princes name and if he cannot shevv his comission he runneth on a sleeueles arrande If this be so as experience teacheth vs that it is so and reason telleth vs that it must be so and thath betvvixt man and maÌ„ vve haue noe reason to thinke almightie god to be so deuoid of princelie prudence as to sende his Apostles and preachers to denounce
Churche vvere in vaine all actes of religioÌ„ vvere superstitious all conncells vvhich vvere gathered in this Churche all pastours that ruled in it all doctours that vvrote tanght in it and for it deceiued vvere deceiued Happie then vvas the daie in vvhich Luther leaped out of his Monasterie disobeied the Pope Churche and hauing gotten a yoke fellovv out of a cloy ster of professed and vovved virgins deuised a nevve religion to cloake his villanie And could not Christe all that vvhile fynde out a man fitte to restore his Churche froÌ„ death to life vvas there noc Ambrose noe Austine noe Hierome noe Gregorie fitte for such a purpose and vvas Luther the only man vvhoe for learninge vertue thonghe he vvere an apostata vvas according to God his harte and likinge vvhome God vvished for expected so longe But if I demonstrate that the true Churche caÌ„not die nor decaie theÌ„ is their Churche a bastarde synagogue vvhich as they saie once florishing in the Apostles tyme and after their tyme also for some smalle tyme and astervvardes died for noe litle tyme but rather for some hundred yeares or elfe they must of necessitie shevve a succession of their Churche and Religion from age to age of their pastours from pastour to pastour and if they canot they are not sent by an ordinaire mission bicause they succeed to noe predecessours but are the first of their familie Chap. 5. This I haue demonstrated in the secoÌ„d booke as the reader maie see if he please to tourne oner a fevve leaues so heare I maie suppose it supposinge conclude that they are not seÌ„t by an ordinary missioÌ„ bicause they succeed to none But if this ansvverre vvill not serue as a blinde man maie see that iâ— doth not then they haue another in store and vvhat is that they saie forsooth that they are true successours to the Apostles and that they haue their predecessours vvhoe beleeued as they doe ruled the Church ministred receaued sacramentes but secretly inuisibly bicause their Churche it selfe vvas all that tyme inuisible And so if you demaunde of them vvhoe vvere their predecessours they vvill ansvverre that they had predecessours but they vvere inuisible This is another blinde shifte of theirs vvhich I shall refute in the next booke at large Heare onlie I demaunde vvhether this inuisible Churche vvas inuisible to them selues Chap 5. or to papistes only and paganes vvhoe vvere not of their religion If it vvere inuisible to them selues hovv canne they tell that ther vvas anie religion like to theirs before their tyme or that there vvere anie pastours of their kinde for that vvhich vvas inuisible vnto them coulde not be seene of them and so vvee are noe more to be leeue them in sayinge that they had a Churche pastours before Luthers tyme then a blynde man that vvill determine of coulours If they saie it vvas inuisible only to papistes pagaÌ„nes others vvhich vvere not of their Churche then as it is like Luther and Caluine vvhoe vvere members of that Churche knevv vvell the pastours to vvhome they succeeded of vvhome they receaued authoritie Lett them telle vs then vvhoe they vvere else vve cannot receiue them as ministers of God sent by an ordinarie mission bicause they can not shevve vs their predecessours to vvhom they succeeded Thus I haue plainlie proued that these men are not sent by an ordinarie missioÌ„ bicause they succeed to none vvhoe vvere their predecessours Vvhat novv can they saie vvhy vvee should not reiecte them as false prophetes vvhoe roÌ„ne before they be sent preache before they be called to that function They vvill saie as osten tymes they doe that they vvere sent immediatly from Christe by an extraordinarie missioÌ„ But then vve must put them also to the proofe of this their mission And first of all in sayinge that they are sent extraordinarilie they bevvraie theÌ„ selues to be those Apostles vvhich ronne vnsent bicause it is manifest in scripture that Christe appointing Apostles Ephes 4. ordained a succession of pastours to the ende For as he instituted a visible Churche vvhich is neuer to faile or falle as shall be in the next booke demonstrated so did he appoynte ê‘petuall gouernours pastours to gouerne rule this Church in a visible manner as there also shall be proued Chap 5. else should that visible goodlie misticall bodie of Christe haue bene lefte headlesse vvith out a visible head and bicause the same pastours could not alvvaies lyue to gouerne the Churche visiblie it follovveth that Christe instituted a succession of them consequently that Christe sendeth none to rule it his Churche but by succession to some others by vvhome they vvere ordained instituted therefore he that enters into the gouerment of the Churche and not by this entrie and dore of succession he is a theefe that seeketh vvindovves corners by-vvaies as them selues doe vvho bicause they meane noe good dare not enter into the house as honest men doe by the ordinarie vvaie Let not then the reformers bragge of their extraordinarie mission bicause Christe hauinge instituted a perpetuall succession of ordinarie pastours meaneth not to sende any extraordinarie preachers rather they maie be ashamed of their monstrouse natiuities for they are like vnto those heretikes of vvhom Optatus speaketh qui de se prodigiosè nasci voluerunt l 1. cont Paâ— Vvhich vvould be borne of them selues prodigiously vvithout any ffather or mother They are like to Victor the Donatiste vvhoe as Optatus affirmeth vvas a soÌ„ne vvithout a father l. 2. cont Par. a disciple vvithout a master They are not vnlike the Nouatianes vvhoe as saint Cipriane auerreth l. 1. ep â— Nemini succedentes à seipsis episcopiordinati sunt Succeding to noe man they vvere ordained bishops of them selues But lett vs giue them leaue to saie at least that they vvere sent extraordinarilie that so vve maie see better hovve they canne proue their extraordinarie mission and hovve vve can disproue the same First I demaunde of them vvhere they read in scripture that after Christe had established a succession of pastours to gouerne his Churche to the ende Ephes â— he vvould sende somtymes extraordinarie ministers to put them out of office to enter into the gouerment of the Churche to reforme all absurde abusesâ— for if they can not bring scripture for this they are not to be credited that by their ovvne confession But I knovve they can not alleage anie one lyne of scripture for that purpose and I am sure they are not ignorant Mat. â—â— that Christe saied he builded his Churche vppon a rocke so that it should not need the repairinge of these nevve masons established a kingdome and consequenly gouernours vvhich should continevv for euer and so should need noe innouation Second booke vvhich pointe hear after shall be more amplie proued chap 5. But suppose that our sauiour had foretolde the fall
dull pate and such like names for pressing him vvith the authoritie of fathers thus he decideth the matter Hencricus dicta patrum inducit pro sacrificio missario c. Henrie for his massing sacrifice bringes in the sayinges of fathers Here say I that by this meanes my sentence is confirmed for this is it vvhich I sayed that the Thomisticall asses haue nothing vvhich they can alleage but a multitude of men and the ancient vse But I against the sayings of fathers men angells and deuills put dovvne the ghospell vvhich is the vvorde of the aeternall maiestie here I insult ouer the sayings of men thoughe neuer so holy so that I care not though a thousand Austines and Ciprianes should stand against me Thus one Martin Luther braueth them all thus this good child reuerenceth and respecteth his ancient fathers for as I sayed in the last chapter although he seemeth only to preferre the scripture yet seing that they admitted and alleaged scripture also the question is vvhoe hath better skill in expounding scripture and if vve beleeue this man all the fathers might haue gone to schoole to him in expos a. 6â— fol. 167. Zuinglius vvill not be behind Luther in this matter They affirme sayeth he and vve deny that the masse is a sacrifice Vvho shal be iudge of this controuersie The sole say I and the only vvord of God But by and by thou beginnest to crye The fathers the fathers haue thus deliuered vnto vs. But I bring to thee not fathers nor mothers but â— require the vvord of God Caluine desireth to be counted modest but herin also he could not conteine him self l. â— Inst ca. 8. â— 10. Vvhen the aduersaries obiect to me sayeth he that this vvas the cusstome I ansvverre that the old fathers in this matter vvanted both lavv and exemple vvere caryed avvay into an errour vvhilest they attributed to much to the name of poenaunce and the common peoples opinions And again I ame litle moued vvith those things vvhich occurre cuery vvhere in the vvritings of fathers concerning satisfaction I see truly many of them yea I vvill speake simply as it is all allmost of them vvhose bookes are extant vvere in this matter deceâ—ued and spoake hardly And in another booke of his he calles the fathers of the councel of Trent hogges asses in Antid can â— Peter martyr calleth papistes Patrologos not Theologos 〈◊〉 votis for alleaging fathers Doctour Humphrey in the life of levvell perceiuing that levvell had offered to much vvhen in the heat of his sermon he vvas content to be tryed by fathers sayeth that he might haue vsed a better defence for him selâ—e then the authoritie of fathers Vvhoe sayeth hee if they teache contrarie it litle skilleth for vvhat haue vve to do vvith fathers vvith flesh bloud or vvhat perteineth it to vs vvhat the false Synods of bishops do decree Vide â—undem in praefat in Orig. Beza calleth Athanasius Satanasius and the fathers of the Nicen Councell blind sophistes ministers of the beast and staues of Antichrist â—â—ont PapatuÌ„ And althoughe Luther affirmeâ—h that sainct Gregorie the great vvas the last good Pope yet Bibliander calleth him in derisioÌ„ the Patriarch of ceremonies Melancthon condemneth him for allovving of the sacrifice of the masse for the dead praef ep Zuiâ—â— gl Mel. Paulus Vergerius vvrote a booke of the toyes and fables of Gregorie Horne in his booke against Abbot Fecnam calleth this sainte to vvhome vve English men ovve noe lesse then our conuersion from paganisme to christiantie a blind bussard Cent 1. pag. 66 72 Cent. â— par 678. Bile the cronicler sayetâ— that this saint sent Austin the monke to plante in England his Romish religion but yet sayeth he Latâ—mer is much more vvorthy to be counted Englands apostle bicause Austine brought nothing but mans traditions masse crosses letanies vvheras Latimer vvith the hooke of truth cut of these superstitions Vvhitaker in his booke called reprehension Pag. 8â— sayeth that the fathers for the most part vvere of opinion that Antichrist is but one particular man but in that as in many other things theâ— erred The like respecte they bear to generall Councells in vvhich the vvisest and grauest fathers of the Church vver allvvayes assembled Luther in his booke of Councels calleth them Sicopâ—ants and flaterers of the Pope and sayeth that the canoÌ„s of the Councell of Nice vvhich Constantine reuereÌ„ced and honoured vvith his presence are hay stravve stickes and stubble Ibidem Yea in this councel he findeth a playn coÌ„tradiction bicause the councell forbiddes all Eunuches to be promoted to preesthood and yet commaundeth preestes to liue chastly As though only they vvho are gelded could liue chast and as though ther vvere no mean betvvixt vviuing and gelding Yea sayeth Luther l. â—â—nt Regem Angliae if all the decrees of councells vvere povvred into theee vvith a pipe yet vvould they not make thee a christian l. 4. Inst c. 9. sect 8. Caluin vvill examine all councells by the vvord before he vvill giue any credit vnto them and seing that the fathers in councells examined their decrees by scripture also Caluin vvill make an examination vppon their examinatioÌ„ and so vvill bee Iudge of them all But least I vveary the reader vvith to longe a catalogue of reuiling speeches of these contumelious chammes and parricides I report me vnto the indifferent reader vvhether they deserue not the punishment of parricides vvho so scoffe taunte contemne and reuile their forfathers But my meaning vvas not to condemne them vppon vvhom God his sentence must passe my drifte is herby to shevv hovv much in reuiling fathers they crack the credit of their religion and hovv vvithall in reiecting this authoritie they open the gapp to all heretikes and heresies And as concerning the first point it is vvell knovvn that antiquitie vvas allvvayes reuerenced old age vvas euer respected olde coynes priced ancient statues admired old vvritings esteemed and in all artes the moste ancieÌ„t professours of the same bear the bell a vvay In painting Appelles hath the credit aboue all painters in statuary vvorks Lycippê° in comedies Plautus and Terence in Tragedies Seneca in histories Liuie Salust Iustine in Poetrie Homer Virgil Ouid in Rhetorick Demosthenes and Cicero in Philosophie Plato and Aristotle in Diuinitie Peter Lombard sainct Thomas of Aquin Scotus and such other subtile schoolmen And shall not the ancient fathers and doctours of the Church vvho by their arte professed exposition of scripture be reuerenced and credited in their arte before oure vnlearned and vpstart ministers shall antiquitie giue credit to Poets and painters and not to Doctours interpretours of scripture Vvhat is this but to preferr ê“phane literature before religioÌ„ Philosophie before fayth diuinitie paganisme before Christianitie yea Poetes painters before Doctours fathers of the Church If any one novv should say that Plato and Aristotle vvere but
against so many violent persequutions for so longe a tyme haue endured vnless some potent and prudent gouuernour by his lavves vvisdome and authoritie had vpholden guided and directed it And the reason is bicause in a societie and especially that of the Church are diuerse men yea diuerse nations and diuerse men haue diuerse natures and diuerses natures haue diuerse dispositions and diuerse dispositions cause diuerse opinions and diuerse opinions moue cōtradictions and contradictions ende in factions and factions make an end of all societies vnlesse ther be a moderatour to preuent them by his vvisdom or appease them by his authoritie A head then is necessary in all societies and not only necessary but also principalle For although the obedient complying nature of the subiect doth help much to the maintenaunce of peace and order yet the head and Superiour most of all preuaileth For as the head is the principall part so doth it beare most svvay in the gouernment of the body vvich is the cause vvhy the body is affected according to the head and vvhy the subiect follovveth the princes humour Yea euen as vvhen the head in mans body is intoxicated the vvholle body reeleth and if the head vvant eyes the body tumbleth into ditches and falleth into daunger so if the head of a societie be inconstaunte the vvholle societie vvauereth if the superiour vvant eyes of circumspection the subiectes are in daunger Vvherfore Philip King of Macedo and father to Alexander the great vvas vvonte to say that he had rather haue an armie of fearfull harts gouerned by a Lion then of lions ruled and commaunded by a harte insinuating ther by that as the head in a societie is the principall mēber so is it the most necessary If then the Church of Christe be a peaceble and vvell ordered body it hath a head to guide and rule it And if vve looke into the gouernment of the same euen from the beginning vve shall finde that this goodly common vvelth neuer vvanted a Prince and gouernour In the lavve of nature first of all Adam our first parent as he vvas our common father according vnto flesh so vvas he a preest and pastour of the soules of all those vvhoe liued in his tyme and a gouernour of his familie vvhich vvas descended of him not only in domesticall ciuill or temporall but allso in spirituall matters concerning fayth and religion For this cause he vvas indevved vvith all knovvledg and science that as the first doctour he might instruct and direct his posteritie and although by his falle he lost all infused knovvledg yet did he still so longe as he liued remain pastour and supreme head of the Church Vvherfore Theophilus Bishop of Antioche sayeth l. 2. ad Autol. that God for no other cause framed Eue out of Adams side but to demonstrate vnto vs a mysterie and figure of the monarchie of his Church that as Adam vvas head of the same in his tyme so euer after ther vvas one pastour the cheef of all Ho 34.1 Cor. And sainct Chrisostom sayeth plainly that Adam vvas one head giuen vnto all and his reason is bicause sayeth hee God Knevv that aemulation could not be auoided amongest aequalls vvherfor he vvould haue no popular gouernment but a kingdom After Adams death Seth and others succeeded him in the like pastorall authoritie euen vnto Noe. Noe dying Sem his eldest sonne vndertooke the same charge and euen vnto Aaron the first high preest of the Leuiticall lavve all the heires males of euery familie if vve beleeue sainct Hierom vvere preests q. heb q. 7. vvho ministred sacramentes and offered sacrifices euery one in his familie And amongest all the preests of diuers families one vvas the supreme pastour and Iudge of the rest to vvhom belonged the finall sentence in matters of religion and this supreme authoritie as it seemeth belonged allvvayes vnto the most ancient to vvhom all the rest as they vvere in age inferiour so vvere they subiect in authoritie As for example Abrahame and Sem vvere preests at one tyme bicause Abraham vvas the eldest sonne of Thare Sem of Noe yet bicause Sem vvas the moste ancient he vvas the higher preest Gen. 11. and therfore to him for the Hebrevves as sainct Hierom vvitnesseth affirm that Sem and Melchisedech vvere all one Abraham offered tithes and vvas blessed of him as of his superiour Yea it seemeth probable that Melchisedech in his tyme vvas the highe preest and supreme head of the Church Vvherfor Theophilus speakig of Melchisedech Supra vttereth these vvords 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This man vvas a preest the first of all the preestes of God the highest Vvhere he can not mean that Melchisedech vvas the first in tyme yeares bicause Adam Abel and Noe vvere before him and therfore his meaning must bee that Melchisedech vvas the first preest in dignitie the highest of all the preests of his tyme. So that euen in the lavv of nature that is from Adam to Moyses ther vvas allvvayes an highe preest to rule the Church and to compose controuersies that might arise in matters of religiō After that in the lavve vvriten the high preest ruled all in ecclesiasticall affayres as is playn in the books of Exodus and Leuiticus In Exodus vve read hovv Moyses like a spirituall Iudge giueth sentence in causes ecclesiasticall and ansvvereth all doubtes and questions vvhich arose concerning the obseruation and interpretation of the lavv Exod. 1◠and although to ease him selfe he vvas persuaded to lay part of his charge burden vppō others shoulders yet still he reserueth to him selfe the iudgment of all marters concerning the lavv and ceremonies c. 17. And in Deuteronomie vve finde that the people vvere commaūded in all difficulties of religion to haue recourse vnto the preest of the Leuiticall lavv vvho ruled at that tyme and God threatneth that if any bee so proud and stubborn as to refuse to obey his sentence he shall suffer death by the decree of the Iudge Vvhere a blind man may see that the synagogue had her Iudge to decide all cōtrouersies in religion And shall vve imagin that the Church and spouse of Christe vvanteth a head to direct her and a Iudg to giue her satisfaction in all doubts of religion No no in the lavve of grace as God hath bestovved more grace on his Church then on his Synagogue so hathe he prouided her of a Iudge and gouernour vvhom for his Churches sake he assisteth more particulerly And first of all Christe him selfe vvhilest he liued gouerned this Church him selfe and in all points played the parte of a supreme head high preest and pastour For he instituted a nevv lavv a nevv sacrifice nevv sacramentes he ordayned preestes and ministers and gaue them authoritie to preach to minister and to gouern in the Churche vnder him And after that he had vvithdravven his visible presence from vs he lefte vs not vvith out an vnder-pastour but presently
for if this nevv Clergie be deuided into many sects as all the vvorld seeth that it is then seing that vve haue noe more assuraunce of one Secte then another vve may refuse to be iudged by any of them especially they them selues refusing to be iudged by one a nother Yea not all this nevv Clergie nor any sect of the same can proue their mission and therfore are not to be admitted for true pastours and iudges in religion vnless vve vvill receiue all false prophets also false Apostles Is ther no iudge then nether in Ingland nor in all the nevv Church of the ghospellers If ther be let them name him if they can if ther be none as it seemeth that ther is not for I haue named and teiected by good reason all vvhom I thinke they can name then is not their Churche the Churche of Christ in vvhich as is before proued is alvvayes resident a visible iudge to compose controuersies yea then the Churche vvhich as I shall proue in the next booke is a peaceble kingdom shall be a commoÌ„ vvelth the vvorst prouided for that euer vvas it shall be a body vvithout a head a kingdom vvithout a king or Prince to commaund a conuenticle of vvranglers the vvorst ordered and the most disseÌ„tious societie that euer vvas to be breef the Church militaunt in earth shall more resemble that mutinouse route of the damned in hell then the peaceable societie of the Church triumphant in heauen yea then shall that follovv vvhich I intented to proue to vvit that in the nevv Churche of the ghospellers there are noe meanes to compose determine coÌ„trouersies bicause vvhere there is no visible Iudge there euery man may beleeue and preach vvhat he lift and no man can controlle him and if diuers preach contrarie doctrine they may go together by the eares and noe man shall be to part the fraye bicause ther is noe iudge to take vp the matter betvvixte them and so the gappe is open to all false prophetes vvhose doctrine must goe for currant be it neuer so absurd bicause ther is no Iudge to giue sentence of the truthe or falshood of the same And to make the matter more plaine suppose that novv in Ingland some nevv preacher should preach a nevv heresie yea that many at once should preach contrary opinions and so fall together by the eares ther vvould be no meanes to compose these controuersies bicause ther is no Iudge to take vp the matter nether is ther any vvay to preuent them bicause vvher there is no Iudge to define euery man may teach vvhat he list and vvhere euery one may teach vvhat he vvill there arise iarres and discords and vvhere no meanes are to appease them the societie is ruined 〈◊〉 11. Bicause euery kingdom diuided vvith in it selfe shall be made desolate But in this case peraduenture they vvould call a Prouinciall or generall Councel and so compose matters by common coÌ„sent Bee it so that they could call such a councell and could also all or the most parte aggree yet I see not hovve vve are vvarraÌ„ted to assure our selues that they all can not erre and that therfore vve may rely vppon their sentence for if they say that vve are vvaranted bicause they are the true pastours I caÌ„ tell them that this is not so sure bicause they can not proue their mission I demaund of them vvhether the Catholike Clergie vvhich is farre greater and vvhich for fifteen hundred yeares before Luther vvas hard of vvas counted the only Clergie may not haue their voice and if they may certainly their voice vvil be negatiue and opposit to their affirmatiue But this is spoken vppon supposition that they could calle a councell and aggree also in the same for I haue good cause to doubte that they nether can call a councell nor aggree in a councell For if ther bee no visible supreme Iudge nor Pastour in their Church as I haue proued that ther is not vvho should calle this councell suÌ„mone all the Clergie to appear Lut l cont â—â— Calu. â—i â— Inst 6.7 Luther and Caluin say that this belongeth to the Emperour but seing that this is an Ecclesiasticall office concerning religion it can not appertain vnto a temporall Prince and novv that the Emperour is a Catholike and a Papist as they terme him I thinke they vvould not obey him if he should summone them to apeare especially bicause he vvould call Catholike bishops vvould giue the preeminence to them But I haue proued all ready that the Emperour though in the name of the Pope as an assistauÌ„te he may by the Churches permission call a councell yet of him selfe he can not meddle in spirituall matters Act. â—â— Vvherfore the Councell vvhich the Apostles called vvas called vvithout the Emperours authoritie vvhere theÌ„ there is noe Suprem Pastour as I haue proued that amongest them is none vvhosoeuer should take vppon him to call a councell should vsurpe and the others might refuse to obey his calle Peraduenture they vvould choose one by common consent and so vvould all stande to his arbitermeÌ„t But in this also is difficultie for vvhere ther is none to commaund vvho shall call them together to aggree in the election of this one man Yet let vs suppose that they should meet by chaunce as crovves do in the Pease-feeld vvhen they are met it is not so easie to aggree vppon one vvhen they haue aggreed it is not so easie to aggree vnto his sentence For if he pronounce sentence for the Protestaunte the Puritane vvill repine and may say that he hath noe vvarraunte of his sentence vvho is but a man constituted by men and can shevv noe scripture to proueth at he can not erre But truly I can not thinke that in this matter they vvould euer proceed so farre For as yet they neuer called a Councell together out of all partes of their Churche and those that vvere called together for vvant of a Iudge to determine could neuer aggree in any one point of religion Anno 1554. Surius relateth hovv on a tyme tvvelue Catholique Doctours and tvvelue Ministers met at Vvormatia to make some attonement betvvixte the Confessionistes Gen. Cron. but after a litle disputation fiue of the tvvelue ministers vvere excommunicated by the rest Stapl l 4. de prim fed c. 13. and cast out for vvranglers and so nothing vvas concluded Diuerse other assemblies and meetings they haue attempted but all ended in thundering excommunications bitter taunts and infamous libels and as yet they neuer could aggree in any councell vppon any controuersie in religion and all for vvant of a visible Iudge and pastour to vvhom all the rest are subiect And this they haue gotten by leauing the ancient Catholike Churche vvhich acknovvledgethe the bishope of Rome as Sainct Peters successour and Christes Vicaire and relyeth vppon his sentence as infallible Luc. 22. bicause Christ in fainct Peter prayed for him
that his fayth might not fayle and bicause he hathe suprem authoritie vvhich all Catholike Bishops haue euer acknovvledged he hathe called many Councells and determined many controuersies and vvhilest the Church euer standeth to his Iudgement vvhich neuer yet vvas contrary to it is selfe she enuoyethe great peace and vnitie in faythe and religion vvher as the ghospellers bicause they haue noe visible head could neuer call Councells neuer aggree vppon any one point of religion vvhich vvas before in controuersie and neuer shall hereafter bicause matters of religiō are hard and therfore vvher ther-are many heads there are many opinions vvhere are many opiniōs there are many cōtradictions so no peace nor vnitie bicause noe one supreme visible iudge to determine And as for vvant of a visible Iudge they can not appease dissensiōs after they are arisen so can they not preuēt them For if ther be noe visible Iudge euerie Cock-brain may preach his ovvne fancies for true fayth and religion and no man shall controlle him nor condemne his doctrine nor forbid his preaching bicause if ther bee no visible Iudge no man hath the authoritie so the gapp is open to all false prophetes vvho may enter into the nevve Church thicke and three fold bicause noe man therin is of authoritie to forbid them vvhence it follovveth that if vve accept of the nevv religiō and incorporate our selues to the nevv Church vve expose our selues to all false prophetes vvho may preach vvhat they please bicause no man hath authoritie to controlle them THE SECOND BOOK CONTEYNETH A SVRuey of the Markes of heretikes vvhich are proued to aggree so fitly vnto the professours of the nevv religion that if euer ther vvere any heretikes they are heretikes The first chapter handleth the first marke of an heretike vvhich is his breach vvhich he maketh out of that Church vvhich is commonly counted the true Christian Church THEY say commonly that although the deuill disguise him self neuer so much yet by one marke or other he bevvrayeth him selfe For although sometymes hee inueste him selfe in the habit of a younge gallaunte or of a mortifyed religiouse man yea although in out vvard shovve he transforme him selfe into an angell of light yet so it happeneth and I think bicause God vvill haue it so that by one marke or other he is discouered For ether his staring eyes or stinking sauour or horned head or forked feet or base voice discryeth this gallaunt creature to be not as he seemeth but as he is indeed a fovvle and deformed mēber of the deuill vvho though he shrovvd him selfe vnder the goodly name of a christian and vvrapp lapp him selfe from top to toe in the innocent habit of a pastour Vincent Lytin ◠contra proph heres nouit c 36. vvhich is scripture and the vvord of God yet by one marke or other yea not by one only but by many he descrieth him selfe to be as he is an heretike And the reason is bicause the counterfet neuer attayneth vnto the perfection of the currant and arte though she may imitate nature yet shall she allvvayes be vvanting in one thing or other The counterfet gold of the Alchimistes hath a great resemblaunce vvith the true gold but ether the sound or vvayte or operation vvill proue the old prouerbe to be true that all is not gold that glisters Appelles paīted grapes on a boyes head so liuelie that the byrds pecked at them but yet arte came short of nature for if the boye had been painted as vvell as nature frameth her vvorkes the byrds vvould not haue been so imboldned yea the grapes vvanted some thing for at least by pecking the byrds perceiued that all is not grapes that seemeth so Lysippus could in marble stone make so goodly a portrait of a man that he vvould shevv euery bone vaine and vvrincle vvith all proportion but the vvant of life and motion vvell declared vvhere in arte vvas enforced to yeeld to nature Vvherfore let the heretike counterfett neuer so coningly let him vse all the arte possible to shevv him selfe a sincere and true Christian yet the counterfet must come shorte of the currant and arte must yeeld to nature and hee in one point or other vvill bevvray him self to bee no true christian vvhich he professeth him selfe to bee but a faythless heretike vvhich he vvould not seem to bee And the first mark by vvhich he is bevvrayed is his breach vvhich he maketh out of the Church and Christian societie For as the vvandring sheep vvas once of the fold and the rebell vvas once a subiect and the bovve cut of once liued and florished in the tree so heretikes especially Arch-heretikes vvere at least for the most part once sheep of Christes fold subiectes of his kingdome and members of his body the Church Vvherfore sainct Ihon giues vs this mark to knovv an heretike by Ex nobis prodierunt l. Io. 8. sed non erant ex nobis They vvent out from vs but they vvere not of vs. That is they liued amongest vs for else they could not haue gone out yet so that they vvere not vvorthy our company and therfor as rotten bovves are soone broken of so they vver soone shaken of and took occasion to go from vs vvho before for their euill life in desert vvere none of vs. Or else to follovv another exposition Aug tract 3. in cp 10. they vvere emongest vs in out vvard shevve bicause they frequented sacraments vvith vs but they vvere heretikes in mynde and so none of vs and therfore they vvēt out from vs. They vvere in the Church but as euill humours in mans body and therfor vvere to be expelled bicause they vvere hurtfull to the body and no part of the substaunce For commonly heretikes liue some tyme secret befor they open and disguise them selues and so before they vvēt out from vs openly they vvere none of vs secretly Or else according to another interpretation they vvere once amongest vs and like true Christianes liued vvith vs Aug tract ◠〈◊〉 10. but euen then vvhen they vvere by present fayth and iustice mēbers of our Church God forsavv by his diuine foresigt that they vvould not continevv amongest vs and therfor they vvent out from vs bicause euen then vvhen they vvere amongest vs they vvere none of vs finally to perseuer vvith vs not that God his presciēce vvas the cause but bicause he forsavv vvhich vvas to be that is that they vvhich vvere as yet of our societie vvere of their ovvn free vvill to leaue vs and so in God his foresight vvere finally none of our company So that one euident marke of an heretike is that he makes a breache out of the body of the Churche of vvhich hee ether vvas or seemed to bee a member The same marke sainct Paule giueth vs also to knovve an heretike vvhen he sayeth that Some shall depart from the fayeth 1. Tim. 〈◊〉 Heb. 10. and that some are accoustumed to
forsake the assembly and that some going out from vs Act. 1â— doe trouble others vvith vvords â—o 6. So the first Sacramentaries I meane the Capharnaites vvho vvould not beleeue that Christ could giue his body to be eaten left Christ and his Apostles and vvould vvalke noe more vvith theÌ„ So that going out or breakinge forthe of the Church is a note and marke of an heretike Vvherfore Tertulian sayeth l. praesc c. 8. that vve must not meruaile nor thinke the vvorse of our Church vvheÌ„ some doe leaue vs bicause sayeth he this shevveth vs to bee of the true Christian company according vnto that they vvent out from vs Ibid. â— 10. but they vvere not of vs Yea he sayeth that all heretikes vvere once Romaines in religion and therfore novve are heretikes bicause they separate them selues as Marcion and ValeÌ„tinus did of vvhom sayeth he it is certain that they beleeued once in the Romain Churche vntill vnder Pope Eleutherius they vvere cast out of the same And this note is so certaine that if you roÌ„ne ouer the catalogue of all the ancient heretikes you shall fynde that they all vvere once members of that societie vvhich vvas coÌ„monly called and counted Christiane and vvhen they left the same they vvere by by noted for rebels runne gates and Apostatates as the scripture noteth the tyme and occasion 3. Reg. 18. vvhen the Samaritanes left the TeÌ„ple of Hierusalem and vvould vvvorship God no more in that place as the Ievves euer had doone so haue Ecclesiasticall histories noted the tyme occasion of the breach of euery arch-heretike from the Churche and as yet vve vvell remember it is not so longe the tyme and occasion of Luthers reuolte from the Catholike and Romain Churche Yea him selfe confesseth that once he vvas a Papist and that in the highest degree for these vvords he once vttered in his commentaries vppon the first Epistle to the Galarhians â—n t. cp Gal. Si quisquam alius certè ego ante lucem â—uangelij pie sensi Zelaui pro Papisticis legibus patrum traditionibus easque magno serto vt sanctus earum obseruationem tanquam necessariam ad salutem vâ—si defendi If euer any truly I befoee the light of the ghospell be meanes his ovvn ghospell thought holily and vvas Zealons For the Papisticall lavves and the fathers traditions and I vrged and defended them Ibidem and their obseruation as necessarie to saluation Yea he confesseth hovv he vvatched fasted prayed and tamed his body vvhen he vvas a friar yea sayeth he Tanta erat authoritas Papae apud me vt vel in minimo dissentire ab ipso putarem crimen aeterna damnatione dignum So great vvas the Popes authoritie vvith me that I thought it a crime vvorthy eternall damnation to dissent from him in the least pointe Ibid. Yea once sayeth hee I vvas so zealous for the Pope that I thought Ihon Husse a vvicked heretike and vvould haue burnt him vvith myne ovvne handes And as Luther vvas so vvere all the packe of their first fathers children of our mother the Catholike Churche and sithence they are gone out they vveare the badge and cognisaunce of an heretike They vvil ansvvere peraduenture that vve vvere not the true Church but vvereloÌ„ge before metamorphized and chaunged into the synagogue of the deuill that therfore it vvas tyme for them to leaue vs. But if vvee vvere degenerated I demaund of them vvhen vnder vvhat Pope or Emperour and in vvhat age and from vvhat Church did vvee degenerate out of vvhat Churche did vvee make a breache for as nothing degenerateth but from that vvhich it vvas before And if they can not tell vs vvhen vvee begone to degenerate nor noÌ„ vvhat Churche then caÌ„ they not put this marke vppon vs. Yea I shall in this booke proue that our Churche vvhich novv is aggreeth vvith the Churche vvhich in all ages euen from the Apostles vvas counted the only Christian Church Nether is it sufficient to saie that vvee vvere not the true Churche for so Arrius Nestorius Eutiches and euery heretike vvas accustomed to say vvho notvvithstanding bicause they vvent forth of that Churche vvhich vvas commonly called and counted the Christian Church vvere counted heretikes Sithe therfore Luther Caluin and the rest haue departed froÌ„ our Churche vvhich vvas and still is called the Christian Churche ether they are heretikes or else Arrius Nestorius yea Simon Magus Cerinthus and Ebion vvere noe heretiks Nether caÌ„ they bragge that many haue lefte them also and seuered them selues from their company for that vvas allvvayes the manner of heretikes not longe to continevve in one religion but to diuide them selues into many sectes And if they counte those heretikes vvho goe from theÌ„ make nevv sectes then are they all euen the first of them heretikes bicause the first of theÌ„ vvent out froÌ„ vs. Vvherfore in fevve vvords to coÌ„ prise all and to conclude vvhich I intended They can not name the Churche from vvhich vvee departed nor the tyme nor the occasion vve can tell vvhen they departed and from vvhat Churche that is the Romaine Churche vvhich vvas and is still commonly counted the true Christian Churche vvherfore it follovveth euidently that vve are still in the right Churche bicause there vvas neuer any other out of vv ch vvee could breake forth they are ronne out vve vveare the badge of true Christianes vvhich is neuer to goe out neuer to forsake that vvhich once vve haue professed they are noted vvith the marke of heretikes vvhich is to goe out and to forsake the common receiued Churche and so if euer there vvere any heretikes so called and counted for breaking forth and going out then are they heretikes and neuer shall be able to hide this marke goe they neuer so disguisedly The second Chapter discouereth the second marke of an heretike vvhich is later standing noueltie vvhich also is proued to agree as fitly to the ghospellers of this tyme as to any heretikes of former tymes GOod goeth before badd truth before falshood the currant before the counterfet and art before nature bicause euill is but a priuation of the good and falshood is that vvhich svverueth from the truth and the counterfet is but a resemblaunce of the currant and arte is but an imitation of nature and so these come after those of necessitie must goo before No meruayle then if religioÌ„ take the precedence of superstition and Christian fayth of heresie vvhich is but a priuation of that good a falsitie svveruing from that truth a counterfet resemblaunce of that currant and an artificiall imitation of ChristiaÌ„ sinceritie Religion vvas plaÌ„ted before superstitioÌ„ tooke roote ver tue vvas rooted before vice vvas sovved Mat. 18. and the seed of true fayth vvas sovved before the enemie scattered the euill cockle of heresie and as the true Apostles liued and preached before Simon Magus and other false-prophetes his successours so true fay the
vvas sovved rooted come to some height and ripenes before euer the false Apostles scattered the nettleseed and hempseed of their heresies Yea not only by the Apostles generally in the vvorld but also by their successours particulerly in euery particuler country fay the grevv and florished before heresie vvas sovved â—i â— for as Bozius in his fourth booke of the signes of the Churche learnedly proueth the first conuersion of euery country froÌ„ paganisme vnto Christianitie vvas not to heresie but to the true fayth Romain religion and vvhen that vvas receiued then heresie being but a corruption of true fayth as vineger is of vvine begane to take place then the cockle spronge vp after the good corne And therfore Sainct Paule giues vs this marke to knovv an heretike and for heresie that they arise after the true religioÌ„ Act. 80 I knovve saieth he that rauening vvolues that is heretikes after my departure shall enter amongest you not sparinge the flocke So that after sainct Paule had preached and persuaded true fayth the false prophetes entered to ruine the spirituall building vv ch he had framed In like maÌ„ner the ancient fathers haue euer noted heretikes their heresies of later standing and noueltie l. praesc c 2â— In all things sayeth Tertulian the veritie goeth before the image and last of all cometh the similitude Yea sayeth he it is a folly to thinke that heresie in doctrine is the first especially seing that the true religion fortelleth heresies And in another place ll 4. aduersus Marcionens thus hee concludeth Insumma si constatid verius quod prius id prius quod est ab initio ab initio quod ab Apostolis pariter vtique constabit idesse ab Apostolis traditum quod apud Ecclesias Apostolicas fuerit sacro-sanctum In breef if it be manifest that that is truest vvhich is first that first vvhich is from the begining that froÌ„ ye. begining vv ch is from the Apostles it shall likevvise be manifest that that is deliuered by the Apostles vv ch hath been inuiolably holdeÌ„ in the apostolicall Churches And in his booke against Praxeas he sayeth that it is adiudged against all heresies that that is true vv ch is first that is couÌ„terfet vv ch is later And this he shevveth by a similitude for sayeth he as the vvilde oliue springeth out often tymes out of the svveet oliue nutte l. praesc c 36. and the vvilde figtree out of the good figge so heresies haue grovvne out of our ground vvhich yet are not ours degenerating from the true graine of fayth Ireneus also subscribeth to Tertulians opinion in these vvords l 5. circa mâ—dium Omnes illi valde posteriores sunt quam Episcopi quibus Apostoli tradiderunt Ecclesias All they he meaneth heretikes are of much later standing then the Bishops to vvhome the Apostles deliuered and comitted the Churches And as heretikes are noted of later standing so is their doctrine counted to sauour of noueltie Vvherfore Zozomenus sayeth l. 1. c. 1â— that Arrius vvas not a frayed to affirme that vvhich neuer any durst auouch to vvit that God the sonne vvas created of nothing And Vincentius Lyrinensis vvriting a booke against heresies intitleth it against prophane nouelties and vvisely obserueth that the Catholike Churche Keepeth the olde and deuiseth noe nevv doctrine to vvhich sense he explicateth those vvordes of saint Paule O Timothee depositum custodi c. 2. ô Timothee keep that vvhich vvas deposed vvith thee and committed to thy custodie Depositum custodi sayeth he non quod à te inuentum sed quod tibi creditum est quod accepisti non quod excogitasti rem non ingenij sed doctrinae non vsurpationis priuatae sed piâ—blicae traditionis in qua non author esse debes sed custos non institutor sed sectator aurum accepisti aurum redde nolo mihi pro alijs alia subijcias Keep that vvhich is deposed not vvhich is inuented by thee but vvhich is committed to thee vvhich thou hast receiued not vvhich tho hast deuised a thing not of vvit but of doctrine not of priuate vsurpation but of publique tradition in vvhich thou oughtest not to bee an autour but a keeper not an institut our but a follovver thou receiuedst gould restore gould I will not haue thee put in one thiÌ„g for another Vvherin he putteth a playn difference bettvvixt Catholikes and heretikes that they sticke to the olde these are euer deuising nevve doctrine For although the Churche by nevv councells and definitions addeth greater explication of her religion and although by the labours and endeuours of the Doctours of the Church vvhich in no age are vvanting many points of our fayth are more illustrated and dilated yet in substaunce our fayth is still one and the same And therfore diuines saye that fayth neuer from the beginning hathe increased in substaunce but only in explication and that the Churche since the tyme of the Apostles neuer had nevv reuelations in the articles of beleef and that in general Councells she defineth noe nevv things but rather those things vvhich before vvere extaunte in scriptures fathers or tradition shee by her definition declareth more certainly and proposeth more plainly to the vevve of the vvorld So that as Vincentius Lyrinensis sayeth 〈◊〉 29.30 euen as mans body increaseth by nutrition and augmentation yet gayneth no nevv limmes and members but only getteth more quantitie and strength in the former so christian fayth by noe increase did euer yet gaine nevv articles but only hath gotten greater and clearer explication of the former Vvherfore the same doctour counsayleth euery preacher and teacher so to explicate thinges after a nevv manner that he preach not nevv doctrine Eadem quae accepisti say eth hee ita doce c. 〈◊〉 vt cùm dicas nouè noÌ„ dicas noua The same things vvhich thou hast receiued so doe thou teach that vvhen thou speakest after a nevv maÌ„ner thou speake noe nevv things And the reason vvhy faythe admitteth no noueltie is this bicause God speaketh once and neuer recalls or ameÌ„ds his vvorde Iob 33. Psal 6â— and in him that prouerb takes no place Secunda consilia meliora second counsayls are the best For God is as vvise and circumspect at the first as at the last therfore he hauing once reuealed and planted fayth that must stand for good and he that seeks to chaunge declares him selfe a corrupter not a correctour and in that he coÌ„meth after vvith his diuising vvit to adde ordetract froÌ„ the olde receiued faith he bevvrayes him selfe to be of later standing so an heretike and his doctrine to sauour of noueltie so an heresie Vvherfore to coÌ„clude sithe that it is certain that Catholikes vvhom they call papists are of noelate staÌ„ding nor noe vpstarts for I demaund vvhen they beganne and after vvhom they arose they caÌ„ be noe heretikes seing that it is noe lesse certain that the reformers of this
able to hide or vvipe avvay this marke vntill they abiure and renounce euery one of the old heresies vvhich they haue renevved and imbrace vvholly and intierly the Catholike fay the vvhich they haue forsaken The fifth Chapter handleth another marke of an heretike vvhich is vvante of succession OVr aduersaries nether can nor vvill deny but that our Sauiour Christe and his Apostles once planted true religion and established a true Churche in the vvorld Ephes 4. in vvhich Pastours and Doctours vvere appointed to minister Sacraments to preach the vvord of God and to gouerne and rule in the Churche The Actes of the Apostles vvitness no less Act. Apost vvhich set before our eyes the beginning and progress of the primatiue Churche the beginning in Hierusalem the progress amongest the Gentils For vvhen Christ dyed the principall foundatioÌ„ and corner stone vvas layed vvheÌ„ the Apostles vvere created the building vvent on and vvhen they by preaching miracles augmeÌ„ted the nomber of the first Christianes then vvas the building of this Church perfited and brought to that splendour and perfection that the Scribes and Pharisies emulated and enuied the glorie therof and sought the meanes to ruine this vvorke of God Act. â— but in vayne for as Gamaliel told them the vvork of God no povver can dissolue Act 7. â— Against this Church the deuil raysed a tempest vvhich began vvith a storme of stones amongest the Ievves but by the Emperours and heretikes hathe continued vnto this day In this Churche vvas called a Councell in Ierusalem vvhere sainct Peter as the head pronounceth the sentence Act. 15. and sainct sames subscribeth The first pastours of this Church vvere the Apostles sainct Iames vvas Bishop of Ierusalem sainct Ihon of Ephesus sainct Marke of Alexandria Eus l. 2. â— 1â— saint Peter first of Antioche then of Rome vv ch vvere his particulers seates for he vvas supreme Bishop also of all the Christian vvorld Io. 21. And in Antioche Euodius succeeded to sainct Peter ep ad Antiâ— after him Ignatius In Rome after that he had exercised the function of a supreme pastour for the space of tvventie and fiue yeares departing not vvithstanding some tymes as busines or persecution enforced him before his deathe he appointed Clemens for his successour but he refusing Act. 1â— Gal. 2. Linus and Cletus sainct Peters coadiutours Epiph. har 27. succeeded him and after them sainct Clemens accepted of the charge Sand. pag. 256. The other Apostles in other places lefte their schollers to succeed them yea and placed others in other places vvhere them selues could not reside as sainct Ihon appointed Policarp at Smyrna Tert. l. praes â— 3â— To be breefe Ecclesiasticall histories from the Apostles deriuâ— a Christian Church and succession of pastours vnto these dayes So that a true Christian Church vvas once planted and established Vvhich if it be true then vndoubtedly that novv is the true Church they the true Christians those the true pastours that the true fay the vvhich from the first and primatiue Church by a continuall succession can be deduced for the Church is called apostolicall not only bicause is vvas once planted by the apostles but also bicause it is descended from them by succession And they must be heretikes and bastard Christians degenerating from their first institution vvho can not shevv this succession and their Church shall bee l. pras c. 20. not apostolicall but apostaticall This argument hand leth Tertulian in his booke of prescriptioÌ„s vvher he shevveth hovv all particuler Churches vvere first planted by the apostles and hovv other Churches from them re ceiued fayth and religion and say eth he if novv you vvill knovve vvhat religion is the true Christiane religion you must conferre it vvith some former Churche from vvhich it is descended bicause say ethe hee Omne genus ad suam originem censeatur necesse est It is necessary that euery kinde be valued and esteemed according vnto his source and origine If you vvill Iudge of vvater marke the fountain if you vvill knovv a maÌ„s gentrie looke hovv he descendeth from the first of his familie if you vvill informe your selfe of any mans title vnto a lord ship you must consider hovve the first lord entered in to possession and hovv he is descended from him And so if vve vvill discerne the true Christian from the heretike vvee must haue an eye vnto the roote and stock from vvhich he descendeth for so vvee shall knovv vvhether he be legitimate or bafe-borne For if he fetch his pedegree from any other then the Apostles or those vvhich by succession descended from them then is hee a bastard-Christian and caryeth the marke of an heretike The Romaine and Catholike Churche vvhich novv is can deriue her pastours religion and gouernement euen from the Apostles and those vvhoÌ„ they appointed Bishops and successours For if you ronne ouer Ecclesiasticall histories you shall finde our Church and the practise of our religion to haue florished from the begiÌ„ning vnto these dayes for they treat almost of nothing else but of the progresse of our Church of the persecution vvher vvith it vvas assayled of the heretikes by vvhom it vvas molested of our Bishops prelates â—â—artys virgins doctours of our general and prouinciall Councelles of the miracles vvhich vvere vvrought in confirmation of our fayth in so much that if our matters vvere not the historiographers should haue had no subiecte to vvorke or vvrite on â— â— c. 1. l. 2. cont Donatistas op 363. Ireneus reckeneth the Popes of Rome from sainct Peter vnto Eleutherius Optatus vnto Damasus sainct Austin vnto Anastasius Sand li de vi sib mon. others goe farther and doctour Sanders our countriman bringeth the succession of our Popes Bishops Ceremonies and religion vnto Pius Quintus tyme Genebrard hath doone the like vnto Gregorie the thirtenth his tyme Gen. in Chronol Baron in Annal. and Cardinal Baronius in nine tomes all-ready set forthe hathe most exactly set dovvne the practise of our religion vnto Ludouicus Pius of Fraunce And if our Church aggree vvith the primatiue Churche if our faythe vary not from the ancient faythe if our pastours be descended from the Apostles and their schollers as all histories and monuments do beare vvitnesse then must our Church needs be the true Church bicause it aggreeth vvith the originall and is conformable to the primatiue Church vvhich as it vvas neerest vnto Christe his disciples and vvas persequuted and honoured for the true Churche so vvas it likest to bee the true Churche vnlesse vve vvill saye that Christ and his Apostles neuer planted a true Church This succession vvas counted allvvayes a marke of the true Churche vvhich in our Creed vve profess Symb. 〈…〉 vvhen vve beleeue in the Apostolicall Churche to vvit that vvhich is by succession deriued from the Apostles plaÌ„ted by them and the vvant of it vvas allvvayes esteemed a note to knovve
an heretike by Vvherfore Ireneus sayeth that by succession vve confound all heretikes Supra Sainct Austine sayeth that it is the thing Lib. cont ep fund c. 4 l. dâ— vtilit cred c. 17. vvhich holdeth him in the Catholike Church bicause sayeth he that Church in vvhich is this successioÌ„ is the rock against vvhich the gates of hell can not preuail If therfore our nevv Christianes vvill discharge them selues of this marke of an heretike vvhich is vvante of succession let them shevv vs as Tertulian demaunded of the heretikes of his tyme the catalogue of their Bishops and the origen of their Churche that if in the same vve finde them to be descended from the Apostles vve may acknovvledg them as true Christians if vve finde that they are not descended from so noble a race vve may hisse them out of the Church for heretikes But I ame sure they caÌ„ shevv noâ— succession bicause they are the first them selues and can as soone name their predecessours as they can finde out Lutheranes before Luther caluinistes before caluin I vvill not deny but that they can deriue some pointes of their doctrine froÌ„ Simon Magus and other ancient heretikes but this succession proueth them also to be heretikes as is before demonstrated but a succession from that Church vvhichvvas commonly counted Christian they can not shevv yea they can not shevv vs a succession of their doctrine from any ancient heretikes but are them selues the first of their familie succeeding to none but sent and ordayned by them selues See the first booke first chap. borne prodigiously of theÌ„ selues ChildreÌ„ vvith out fathers and schollers vvith out masters for although they borovv their heresies of other heretikes yet they iumpe vvith no heretikes in all points but ether adde or detracte so succeed in all poincts to none Vverfore though sometymes they vaunte that they succeed the Apostles and the primatiue Church yet some tymes the truthe breaketh from theÌ„ against their vvills as it doth from the deuil vvhen by coniuration he is compelled to tell the truth and then they confess them selues to be the first of their familie but this confession hangeth them Oecolampadius they call the first bishop of Basil and Caluin the first of Geneua Latimer the first Apostle of Ingland and knokes of Scotland And Martin Luther the most ancient of them all is not afrayed to saye that he vvas the first man that manifested the ghospell and the truthe vnto the vvorld In prafaâ— disp Lypsiâ— Audemus dicere sayeth hee à nobis primo diuulgatum esse Christum Vve dare saye that Christ vvas first by vs made knovvn vnto the vvorld He hathe piggs in his belly therfore he speakes in the plurall nuÌ„ber but he hath noe braynes in his head nor blood in his face to blush vvith all and therfore he dares be bold to say that he is the first man that promulgated the christian lavve Art thou the first thou vaunting compagnion modestie vvould yeeld at least to the Apostles So he vvill peraduenture but at least sayeth he I ame the first after them O monstrouse and Luciferian pride and novv not Luther but Lucifer Art thou the first after the Apostles Vvhere then vvas the Churche all this vvhile Vvhere vver ethe Pastours and Doctours of the same Vvhere vvere the Austines Ambroses Gregories Hieromes Vvas ther none all this vvhile to haue been imployed but God must needs expecte till an Apostata fryar leaped out of a Cloister and maryed vvith a Nonne notvvithstanding that bothe had promised chastitie before god and man by a solemne vovve But they haue a shifte or tvvoe by vvhich they thinke to auoyd this argument of succession The first is this our doctrine say they is Apostolicall and vve are the Apostles successours bicause vve preach conformable to that doctrine vvhich they haue left in the ghospells epistles by them vvritten But this shifte vvill not serue See the second chap. bicause this is to make bare scripture Iudge of their doctrine as all heretikes haue euer doon vv ch not notvvithstanding as is in the first booke demonstrated is noe certain rule to square fayth religion by Vvherfore they haue yet another ansvveare in store vv ch is this They graunte that the Apostles once plaÌ„ted a true church true religioÌ„ and established true pastours but soone after this Churche fayled degenerated froÌ„ that it vvas into the Synagogue of the deuil vv ch they call the Papisticall Churche and possessed the vvorld for many hundred yeares till at length Luther the man of god builded this Church agayne renevved the religion and appointed nevv pastours so say they vve succeed to that Church vvhich the Apostles founded not by a continuall succession but by an interruption of many hundred yeares But aske them vvhat yeare of our lord vnder vvhat Emperour or Pope vppon vvhat occasion this Church fayled then they can not giue you a resolute ansvver Luther in the Assembly at Wormatia publikely auouched that the Church fell in the tyme of the Councel of ConstaÌ„ce in vvhich Vvicleph vvas condeÌ„ned Tom. 9. l cont Papatum The same Martin not allvvayes myndfull of euery vvord vvhich he hath spoken in his book vvhich he vvrote against Papacie sayeth that this Church fayled a thousand yeares after Christe and his reason is biccause the Apocalips sayeth that Satan for a thousand yeares shal be tyed and so for six hundred years he hath been loose l. de Capt. Babyl In another place he sayeth that saint Gregorie vvas the last good pope and that since that tyme the Church and pastours are degenerated Yet the same man perceiuing hovv litle aggreemeÌ„t is betvvixte his religion and that vvhich vvas practised euen in the first age and tyme of the Apostles hovv vnlike his ministers are to those ancient preestes and fathers Act 15. he sayeth that the Apostles them selues erred in their Councel holdeÌ„ at Hierusalem or else sayeth he vve all sinne novv in eating blood-puddings vvhich they forbad not knovving absurde companion as he vvas or not acknovv-ledging that the precept vvas but for a tyme to coÌ„tent the Ievves As for the Councell of Nice vvhich vvas vvith in 300 yeares after Christe he auoucheth that the canons and articles of the same are but Stravv and Stubble â—â—prâ— vvhich epithetons he giues also vnto saint Iames his epistle Ep. â—d Sadol Caluin sayeth that Bonifacius the Pope vvas the first that vvas made suprem head of the Churche by Phocas the Emperour and so he thinketh that then the Churche first degenerated yet the same man in his preface to the king of Fraunce Prafat Inst. ad Regem Galliâ— in locis postreâ—â—â—â—ditu sayeth that the Church fell not till the tyme of the Councel of Basil Melancthon sayeth that Pope Zozimus vvas the first Anti-christ and that since ther vvas neuer any true Bishop of Rome But first this disagreement of the tyme
called Ievv and gentile the Grecian and the barbarous and all natioÌ„s vnder the sonne vnto his faith Churche and religion Vvherfore this Church almost from the beginning euen vvhen it vvas confined vvith in Hierusalem Act. 2. coÌ„teined Parthians Medes Persians Mesopotamians and as the scripture sayeth allmost all nations vnder the sonne And vvhen the holy Spirit descended vppon the Apostles and Disciples in firie tongues Ibidem and gaue them the guifte also to speake all languages that vvas to signifie that the Church of Christ vvas not to speake Englishe only or Scotishe and Flemishe only but all languages Vvherfore God promised our Sauiour Christ that he vvould giue him not England only not Scotland Flanders and Germany only Psal 2. but all nations for his inheritaunce Psal 71. Psal 81. And he auoucheth that his Church shall rule from Sea to Sea and that all nations hall haue access vnto it Mat. 28. And so accordingly Christ gaue authoritie to his Apostles to preach vnto all nations Vvherby I gather that the Church of Christ is not to bee a particuler sect confined vvith in any straites and corners of the vvorld but rather an ample Kingdome reaching ouer all the vvorld Symb. Apost Niceph. And this vvee professe in our Creed vvhen vve say that vve beleeue the holy Catholike Church For Catholike is as much to say as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vniuersall l cont ep fundamenti c. â— Vvhich name sayeth S. Austin holdeth me in the Churche And vvhy bicause he knevv it to bee a signe of the true Christian Churche vvhich neuer yet aggreed to any hereticall sect Ibidem li de verae rel c â— l de vtil credendi c. 7. ether of the Manichies of vvhich once he vvas one or of the Donatistes or Pelagians or any other And this sayeth saint Austine is so manifest a marke of the true Churche that heretikes them selues ambitiously affecte the same but yet if you aske for the Catholike Churche they point to ours knovving in their conscience that ours only is in deed Catholike â—â— â— 2. l. 2. And so saint Austin and Optatus refuted the Churche of the Donatists by this argument especially bicause it vvas confined vvith in the limites of Africa And Pacianus saieth that so soone as certain singuler Sect-masters deuised nevve religions Ep. â— ad So. phr and vvere called by particuler names the true Christians to distinguishe them selues from particuler sectes tooke the name Catholique euen from the beginninge as appeareth by the Creed vv ch the Apostles made vvhich name soundeth nether of Marcion nor Cerdon nor Apelles nor ValeÌ„tinus nor Neâ—torius nor Arrius l. cont Iudeos c. 1â— nor Luther nor Caluin And Tertulian so longe as he remained Catholike him self confessed that the true Churche vvas that vvhich vvas diffused throughe out all the vvorld Yea he sayeth that in his tyme the true Christians not vvithstanding the violence of persecution filled the Paganes Cities Apol. c. 37. Ilands Castles Courts Senats and only lefte their temples to them selues but noe soner vvas this man become an heretike but he affirmed most absurdly that the Churche might consiste of three persons though they vvere of the laitie li de exhor cast c. 7 l. de pudic c. 21. Vvhich he did partely bicause he vvould make vp a Churche of Montanus Prisca and Maximilla to vvhom he had vnited him selfe partlie to deliuer in him selfe froÌ„ the name of an heretike to vvhich hee savve him selfe subiect bicause he vvas novve of a particuler sect So that it is sufficiently proued that the Churche of Christe is Catholike that is a Societie professing one fayth in all countries yea and ages also cap. â— according to that of Vincentius Lirinensis In Ecclesia Catholica tenenduÌ„ quod vbique quod semper quod ab omnibus creditum In the Catholike Churche that is to be holden vvhich euery vvhere alvvayes and of all hath been beleeued For that sayeth hee the name Catholique importeth Novve let vs see vvhether the Romain Church faythe or rather the Church of the reformers be the Catholike consequently the Christian Churche for these tvvoe Catholike ChristiaÌ„ euer vveÌ„t together And here I require noe diuines nor Philosophers to be Iudges in this matter only let me haue meÌ„ that haue eares or eyes I desire noe more For the eye vvill easilie Iudge vvhether of these tvvo Churches bee most like to bee Catholike The Romaine Churche vvhich the aduersary calleth Papisticall hath florished in all ages and in the most parte of the vvorld as all histories vvill testifie And novve at this daye our faythe and Churche one and the same is diffused throughe out Spaine Fraunce Italie Portugall and a great parte of Flanders and Germanie yea it reacheth euen to the Indianes and other nevv found countries conuerted by the Benedictines See the first booke first chap. Iesuites and other religious men And so it is Catholique bicause being one and the same it hathe euer possessed all ages countries and still dothe euen to this daye As for the reformers Church and faythe I see noe signe of a Catholike Church in it For first it began not an hundred yeares since In the fifte chapter as before is demonstrated Secondly it neuer yet possessed the vvholle vvorld nor any great part of it as the eye vvill beare vvitnesse only it hathe gotten entertaynmeÌ„t in certayne partes of the vvorld as England Scotland Holland and some Cantons of Germanie Thirdly it is not one Church nor faythe that possesseth all these places but many yea scarce one religion filleth one shire or citie Vvherfore allthoughe England vvere all the vvorld and this age all ages yet vvere not their religion Catholike bicause it is not one faythe and religion in all the shyres of England nor all the yeares of this age for in Englande are many sectes and religions and they also different from the nevve faythes of other countries for there is great difference betvvixte them and the Lutheranes in Germanie Hugonots in Fraunce and Gues in Flanders Nether is it sufficient for any of them to say that their faythe is Catholike bicause all are inuited to it and coÌ„maunded to accept of it for so euerie sectmaster may saye of his religion and I haue proued that the true Christian faythe Church and religion is Catholike in that it being one possesseth all ages and countries Vvherfore to conclude seing that the Church or rather Churches of the reformers neuer possessed all ages and countries yea neuer one and the same filled any one countrie it follovveth that their Church is not Catholike and consequently not the true Christian Church and so they are no true Christians but heretiques and singuler sectmasters if euer there vvere any bicause in that they are of particuler sectes they vveare the same Badge vvhich Donatistes Arians Nestorians and such like haue vvorne before them and for vvhich they
vvere euer counted and called heretikes The eight Chapter discourseth vppon the eight marke of an heretike vvhich is to be condemned for an heretike by that Church vvhich vvas commonly counted the true Christian Church AS vvhen the subiectes beginne to make rebellion the prince suppresseth them or cutteth them of and vvhen any sheep of the flocke are infected the good shepheard separateth them from the rest least they infect the vvholl flocke as the surgeon cutteth of the rotten member least it corrupt the vvholle body and the carefull Husbandman pluckes vp the vveedes least that they ouergrovv the good corne so the supreme pastour of the Church vvhen any rebellious heretikes rose vp in armes against the Church to vvhom they ought of right to be subiect assembled allvvayes his forces together that is called Generall Councels of his Bishops and by the censure of excommunication suppressed these rebelles least that by their ciuil vvarres they should molest the peace of Christe his Church and endeuoured to separate these infected sheepe least that they should infect the vvholle folde of Christ and to cut of these rotten and rotting members least they should corrupt the vvholl body to pluck vp these noysome vveeds least they might peraduenture ouergrovv the good corne of the Catholike Christians And although in the beginning by reason of persequution and vvant of habilitie the Church could not haue her Generall Councels yet euen then the pastours of the Church assembled them selues together in vvriting by vvhich they refuted their heresies and made the autours Knovvn that others might the better auoid them But after that the Church had gotten a Constantine for her champion and temporall princes for her Protectours then against Arius she gathered a Councell at Nice consisting of three hundred and eighteen Bishops Aâ—han ep ad Iou disp con Arian Socr l. 1. c. â— Gen. 14. by vv ch number as Abraham once subdevved fiue Kings so our Sauiour Christ by Pope Siluester his Vicare at Nice the citie of Victorie for so much the Greek vvord impotteth by Victor also and Vincentius vvhose names are victorious gotte the victorie of Arius and the Quartadecimanes and defined against the Arrians that the sonne vvas consubstantiall to the father and against the Quartadecimanes vvhat day Easter should be kept and obserued Vvhich being done the excommunication condemnation curses and anathems vvere thundred our against them and a Synodicall Epistle vvas vvritten to Pope Siluester vvho confirmed the Councels sentence in another Councel at Rome The Emperour Constantine reuerencing this sentence as the sentence of Christes church banished Arius commaunded his bookes to be burned and him and his to be taken for accursed heretikes and after a banquet to vvhich he inuited the holy Bishops he conueighed them home as honourably as he called them together So against Macedonius vvas gathered the second Synode at Constantinople by the authoritie of Pope Damasus for the defence of the holy ghosts diuinitie Against Nestorius a generall Councell vvas called at Ephesus by Pope Celestinê° vvherin vvas defined that in Christ is but one person At Chalcedon by the authoritie of Pope Leo the first in a generall Councell Eutyches vvas condemned for affirming but one nature in Christe And the like generall consent of the Church in condemnation of the Pelagians Berengarians Vviclephistes and such others I could easily alleage out of Ecclesiasticall histories and the Councells them selues But this may suffice to shevve that vvhensoeuer any preached nevv doctrine the Christian vvorld vvondered at theÌ„ the Churche admonished them and if they refused to obey her shee in Generall Councelles condemned them and the Emperours and Catholike Princes executed their lavves vppon them vvhich vvere enacted against heretikes and then all good Christians shunned them as infected and infecting persons l. con proph haeresum nouitates c. 1â— For as Vincentius Lyrinensis sayeth Annunciare aliquid Christianis Catholicis praeterid quod acceperunt nusquam licet nunquam licebit anathematizare eos qui annunciant aliquid praeterquam quod semel acceptum est nunquam non oportuit nusquam non oportet nunquam non oportebit To preach vnto Christians other doctrine then that vvhich they haue allready receiued noe vvhere is lavvfull and neuer shall be lavvfull and to accurse as heretikes those vvhich preach other doctrine then vvhich before hathe been accepted it vvas euer behoueable it is euery vvhere behoueable and euer shal be behoueable And vvhosoeuer readeth the Ecclesiasticall histories shall see hovv allvvayes they vvere taken for heretikes vvho vvere coÌ„demned by Generall Councells and holden so by that Church vvhich commonly vvas called Christian And good reason for he that vvill not obey the Churche muste be by Christes commaundement eschevved as an Ethnike and Publicane Mat. 18. Let novv the indifferent reader be Iudge vvhether this note and marke aggreeth not as properly to Luther Caluin their follovvers as euer it did to Arrius Macedonius Nestorius Eutiches and suche like vvho by their ovvn confession vvere infamous heretikes They taught strauÌ„ge doctrines neuer allovved by that Church vvhich vvas coÌ„monly counted Christian so did Luther and Caluin At them vvhen they began to preach the ChristiaÌ„ vvorld vvondered so did it vvhen these men began Vvhen they by the Churches admonition could not be reclaimed the Churche by a generall Councell in vvhich the Pope ruled by his Legates condemned them as heretikes so vvhen Luther begane to preach Leo the tenth Pope of that name vvarned him of it and sent Cardinall Caietane a larned and famouse diuine to conferre vvith him but he being protected by the Duke of Saxonie though some tymes he fayned that he vvould submit him self remained obstinate vvherfore a generall Councell vvas called at Trent vvherby the sentence of the learnedst grauest and vvisest Prelates of the vvorld for ther vvere present six Cardinalls fovve Legates three Patriarches thirty and tvvo Arch-bishops tvvo hundred and eight Bishops and fiue Abbors seuen Generalls of religions and Proâ—utatours of religions and other learned men very many Luther and all the heretikes and heresies of this age vvere condemned euen as Arrius and other heretikes in other Councels before had been But they say that it vvas not the true Churche vvhich condemned them And might not Arrius haue sayed the same And vvhen I pray you did the true Churche that once vvas and vvhich condemned Arrius degenerate Vnder vvhat Pope and Emperour In vvhat age in vvhat year of our Lord vppon vvhat occasion But this miserable refuge of theirs is already reiected At least that Churche vvhich vvhen Luther began to preach vvas commonly counted the only true Christian Church condemned them and so if euer ther vvere any heretikes these men also must be counted so else Arrius sentence vvhich that societie vvhich vvas coÌ„monly counted Christian pronounced against him must be reuersed or at least again examined To these markes may be added others as vvante of mission allegation of bare scripture bragging
free as they vvhoe are Lordlesse and subiecte to none The sixt Chapter shevveth hovv they despoile Christ of the title of an eternall preest according to the order of Melchisedech ALmighty God being highly offended iustly displeased that so meane a creature as maÌ„ should coÌ„temne his commaundement and not care for his displeasure it vvas necessary that a preest should be found out vvho by some pleasing sacrifie should appease this his indignation so iustly conceiued And many preestes in deed haue assaied by diuerse sacrifices to pacifie this angry God but haue all fayled of their intended purpose For nether vvere they of that authoritie as to bee Mediatours betvvixt God and man for such a reconciliation nether vvere their Sacrifices of that vvorthe as to make amends for so great a faulte Vvherfore God by his Prophetes complayneth of their insufficiencie saying that hee is full cloyed vvith the multitud of theyr sacrifices Isa 1. and telleth them plainly that if they offer vnto him Holocaustes and vovves of Fatlinges he vvill not looke at them Auioâ— 5. Psal 10. Bicause sayeth Dauid God is not delighted in such sacrifices Yea so insufficient vvere all the preestes of the old lavve that God by his prophet Ezechiel threatneth that hee vvill put then out of office c. 34. and in steed of so many he vvill giue vs one Preest and Pastour Christe Iesus vvhom hee calleth his seruaunt Dauid bicause as man hee descended lineally from Dauid and in respect of his humaine nature Phiilp â— he vvas gods seruauÌ„t and inferiour This preest Christe Iesus is the high preest and the only highe preest of the nevv lavve For althoughe in the lavv of Moyses it vvas necessary to haue many highe preestes bicause Hsâ— â— as sainct Paule sayeth their mortalitie vvould not permitte them to liue and remayne allvvayes and bicause death put them out of office it vvas necessarie that others should succeed them in the same authoritie And so the first of this ranke and line of preestes vvas Aaron for Moyses vvas extraordinary to vvhom Eleazarus and others succeeded to the number of fovvrscore and odde Ioseph h. l. 22. Aut. c. 2. yet in the nevv lavve one christ Iesus is sufficient vvho thoughe hee hathe many vicegerentes vvhich are bishops and preestes of the nevv lavve yet hathe he noe successours For noe man succeedeth to another vnless the other ether dye or giue ouer his office vvherfor seing that our Sauiour Christe though he dyed yet rose again neuer to dy agayne and neuer surrendred or gaue ouer his office but still offereth sacrifice still baptiseth still ministreth Sacramentes and ruleth gouerneth his Church by his vicars and ministres he hathe noe highe preest that succeedeth him but is the sole and only high preest of the nevv lavve farie exceeding all the Popes bishops and preests that euer vvere For his preestly authoritie as diuines saye vvas not grounded vppon a caracter vvhich other Preestes receue in the SacrameÌ„t of order but vppon hypostaticall vnion by vvhich he vvas the sonne of God his authoritie exteÌ„ded not it selfe to Christianes only or them that are baptised â— Cor. 5. as the Popes and Churches authoritie dothe vvho haue no iurisdiction ouer them that are out of the Churche and vvho neuer vvere baptized but also eueÌ„ vnto infidels vvhome hee commandeth to receue fay the and the SacrameÌ„t of Baptisme by his preestly povver he instituted Sacraments established a Church pastours and prescribed a monarchicall gouernment vvhich ordonaÌ„ces the Church obeyeth but caÌ„ not alterd by his authoritie he could giue grace vvith out Sacraments as he did to sainct Mathevve Mat. 9. Luâ— 7. Marie Magdalen and others vvheras the Pope bishops and preests of the Church giue noe grace infaillibly but by Sacraments And this is the preest vvho for the dignitie of his person and the valevve of his sacrifice vvas the only preest vvho could appease gods vvrath and indignation 〈…〉 This preest must needs be harde bicause the dignitie of his person suffereth noe repulse and the vvorthe of his sacrifice vvas vnspeakable and hee the same that offered the sacrifice vvas the God vvho vvas angry to vvhoÌ„ vvas offred the sacrifice The preest vvas holyer then the sinner for vvhome the sacrifice vvas offered vvas malicious the sacrifice vvas more pleasing to god Rom. â— then the sinne displeasing So pretiouse vvas the sacrifice that if Christ had put the sacrifice in one ballauÌ„ce the sinne in the other it vvould haue ouer vvayed sinne as a thing of noe vveight vvhich notvvithstanding is so heauy that it vveyeth dovvn to Hell Iâ—b 6. For if euery operation of Christ bee it neuer so litle bicause it vvas 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is the operation of God and man vvas of infinite valevve by reason of the dignitie of the person vvhat shall vvee say of that heroicall operation of Christs passion vvhich vvas an acte of singuler charitie Io. 1â— Phil. 2. couragiouse fortitude inuincible patience perfecte obedieÌ„ce and sacred religioÌ„ for it vvas a sacrifice This preest offered tvvo sacrifices the one at his last supper vnbloudy the other vppon the crosse bloody or rather one and the same sacrifice in respect of the thing vvhich vvas offered after diuers manners and vnder diuers formes For in his last supper he offered his sacred body and blood after an vnbloudy manner on the crosse he offereÌ„d the same after a bloudy manner at his last supper he offered his body and blood vnder another forme that is vnder the formes of bread and vvine on the crosse he offered the same in their ovvn forme and likenes The bloody sacrifice vvas but once to be offered Heb. 7.9 bicause it vvas so precious that one oblation vvas sufficient But bicause it vvas offered only as a generall cause of all grace price of our redeÌ„ption it vvas coÌ„uenient that this generall cause should be determined by more particuler causes and that this price should be more determinately applyed as by sacrameÌ„tes fayth and good vvorks so by the vnbloody sacrifice of the Masse Yea bicause the sacrifice of the crosse being bloudy could not bee repeated after Christs resurrection he then being impassible and immortall it vvas coÌ„uenient that an vnbloudy sacrifice should also be offered continually in the Church for the vvorship of God and exercise of religioÌ„ vvhich as I shall proue in the fourth booke can not stand vvithout a sacrifice See the fourth booke By the bloody sacrifice Christ vvas a preest and highe preest but nether according vnto the order of Aaron bicause that preest hood by Christs passion vvas abrogated and vvas confined vvhithin the Tribe of Leuie of vvhich Christ vvas not nether according to Melchisedech bicause there vvas noe similitude nor aggreement in their sacrifices Vvherfore seing that our Sauiour vvas a preest according to the order of Melchisedech for God affirmeth it vvith an othe
and the lavve of grace in all vvhich See the first booke sint chapter as I haue declared in the laste chapter of the first booke vvere Preestes and they also diuerse according to the diuersitie of lavves Vvherfore if Christe hathe planted a Church and in it established a lavv and religion certainly he hath also appointed a succession of Preestes bicause they euer goe together and haue such a connexion that the one can not stande vvithout the other For if there be noe Preests to offer sacrifice and to minister sacramentes and to interpret the lavve no shevv or face of religion can remaine and as vvell may a Kingdome florishe vvithout a Prince or magistrate In the first booke and sixt chap. as religion vvithout Preests and bishops Vvherfore as I haue proued before in the lavve of nature the first begotten of euerie familie vvas a Preeste in the lavve vvritten the tribe of Leuie vvas deputed and dedicated vnto Preesthod Ios l. 2. cont App. In vvhich tribe ther vvere inferiour Preests so many that Dauid vvas fayne to deuide them into tvventy fovvre rankes vvhich also conteyned a great number There vvere also Leuits vvho had inferiour offices And ther vvere highe Preestes vvhich succeeded one after anothers deathe to the number of fovvre score odde â—os li. 22. Aut. c. 2. and the laste highe Preestvvas Finasius vvho liued vntill the Citie of Hierusalem vvith the Temple vvas beseeged and ruined by Titus Vespasian These Preestes and Leuites loosing their office vvith the abrogation of the old lavve Christe Iesus vvho gaue vs a nevve lavve appointed a nevv Preesthood of vvhich hee him selfe vvas the first Preest and the principall and the only high Preest to vvhom no man succeedeth in the same authoritie and therfore sainct Paule putteth a difference herin betvvixte the olde and the nevve lavve that in the olde lavve many highe Preestes vvho succeeded one another vvere necessarie bicause one dying another vvas of necessitie to succeed least the Church should vvante an highe Preest but in the nevv lavve there is but one highe Preeste Christe Iesus and he is sufficient bicause thoughe hee dyed yet he rose again and neuer gaue ouer the office but still offereth sacrifice and still ministreth sacraments See the third booke sixâ— chap. by the hands of his vnder-Preestes So that he only is the highe Preest of the nevv lavv and none but he bicause no man succeedeth him in the same authoritie But here the aduersarie vvil insulte and say vnto me that I haue affirmed that vv ch hee desired for if Christe bee the only highe preest of the nevv lavve vvhat neede vvee any Popes Bishops and Preests Thus he argueth but vvth hovv litle reasoÌ„ a blinde man may see For as it is no good argument to say that novv in Ingland and Scotland and Ireland can be but one King at once therfore ther muste bee noe viceroyes nor Deputies nor Chauncelours nor Treasures nor Dukes nor Noble men vvhoe are the Princes Officers and Princes in their kinde vicegerentes also some in more ample some in lesse ample maÌ„ner so it is noe good argument to saye that Christe is the only highe Preest of the nevve lavve Ergo ther are noe other Preelts but he for he may haue many vicegerentes vvho also are true Predsts in their Kind And so the Pope maye be his supreme Vicare in earthe and other Bishops and Preests may be inferiour Vicars and Preests also subordinate in iurisdiction vnto the Pope Yea seing that the high Preest Christe Iesus hathe vvithdravvne his visible presence froÌ„ the Churche and executeth not visibly and immediatly by him selfe his preestly function it vvas necessary that to his visible Churche he should leaue a visible succession of Preests vvho should rule and minister vnder him and for him in his absence not as his successours but as his vicegerents and ministers for as noe Preest noe Churche so noe visible Preest noe visible Church Vvherfore vvhen Christe vvas to bid his Church fare vvell he instituted his Apostles Precsts Mat 26. giuing them authoritie to consecrate 10 20. 10.21 and to offer sacrifie and after his resurrection giuing them povver also to absolue from sinnes and appointing Peter as the highe Preest and Vicare vnder him selfe Iesâ— 22. Can. 2. vvhich to denye vvere not only to coÌ„tradicte the Councell of Trent vvhich defineth that in the place alleaged Christe made the Apostles Preefts but also to contemne and condemne the vvholle Schoole of ancient interpretours yea the vvholle Christian vvorld vvho haue so interpreted the places alleaged This Preestly function the Apostles in their tyme did exercisein preaching teaching baptising confirming and offerring Sacrifice also vv ch is the proper function of a Preest Yea their Disciples did the same Act. 1â— for S. Luke sayeth that they ministred vnto our Lord that is sacrificed as the Greeke vvord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth and as Erasmus him selfe trassateth yea as the maÌ„ner of speach also importeth For if they had only preached or ministred SacrameÌ„ts vvell might they haue been sayed to haue ministred to the People but not so properly vnto our lord vnless they had offered sacrifice vvhich is proper to him Sainct Paule sayeth that Timothie vvas ordained bishop by imposition of hands of the Presbiterie 1. Tim. 4. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. Tim. 〈◊〉 in c. 5â— Isa that is a company of bishops and he affirmeth that he him selfe imposed his haÌ„ds vppon him vvhich imposition of hands is in greeke called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and as S. Hierome vvitnessethe signifiethe giuing of holy orders Tit. 〈◊〉 The same sainct Paule vvriting vnto Titus sayeth that he lefte him at Creta that he should constitute and ordaine Preests in euery citie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The same sainct Paule vvith Barnabas Act. 10. ordained to the people Preests in euery Church by imposition of hands as the greeke vvord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 importeth Act. 20. The same sainct Paule as sainct Luke reporteth sent to Ephesus called the elders of the Churche that is Preests for to them he sayed Looke to your selues and vnto your flocke 1. Tim 〈◊〉 And of Preests he speaketh vvheÌ„ he sayeth Preests vvhich do rule vvell are vvorthy double honou Iaeâ— 5. And againe Against a Preest receiue no accusation Of Preests also speaketh Sainct Iames vvhen he sayeth If any bee diseased among you let them call for the Preests of the Churche And bicause our ghospellers see that by these places it is manifest that in the Apostles tymes Preests vvere ordeined they are enforced for other vvise they could not coÌ„ceale this from the People to translate elders for Preestes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Presbiter Prestre Prete Preest notvvithstanding that the greeke vvorde yea the Latin frenche and Italian soundeth as much as Preest in Inglish Of Bishops Preestes and deacons vve haue mention in the
there in the Church for Anti-Christe to take a vvay then that of the masse Let the ghospellers name vs it if there bee or euer vvere any other Malachie the prophete or rather God by the mouthe of his prophete sayethe that he is vveary of the Ievves sacrtfices that his vvill is not amongest them and that henceforth hee vvill receiue no guiftes that is noe sacrifice vvhich is offered by their handes but sayeth hee From the rising of the sonne to the setting of the same my name shal be great amoÌ„gest the gentils and in euery place shal be offered vnto mee a cleane oblation And vvhat oblation or sacrifice is that Not the Ievvish facrifice bicause he sayeth this facrifice shal be offered amoÌ„ge the gentiles yea he protesteth that he is vveary of all Ievvish sacrifices Not the idolatricall sacrifices of the geÌ„tiles bicause he vvould neuer haue called them cleane sacrifices nether can they besaied truly to be offered vnto him but rather vnto the deuill Not improper sacrifices of prayer thankes giuing and good vvorkes bicause he compareth sacrifice vvith sacrifice and so promising a nevv sacrifice insteed of the olde as hereiecteth proper sacrifices so must he in licu of them prouide another proper sacrifice vvhich in the dignitie of a sacrifice surpasseth them all Yea by this cleane sacrifice according vnto the reformers opinion it is impossible that he should mean prayer thankes-giuing or such like good vvorkes bicause the best of these sacrifices in their opinion See the 〈◊〉 books are so vnclean that they are mortall sinnes and abominable in the sight of God Nether can he mean the sacrifices vvhich Iob and others offered amongest the gentils bicause he speakes of one sacrifice those vvere many and could bee noe cleaner then those of the levves yea those vvere oftered but in fevv places and so can not bee the facrifice vvhich Malachie sayeth shal be offered in euery place euen from the East to the vvest He speaketh therfore of a Sacrifice vvhich in the nevv lavve shal be a moste cleane and pleasing sacrifice and vvhich in all the partes of the Christian vvorld shal be offered vnto God And vvhat such sacrifice can the reformers name but the sacrifice of the masse Vvhat other oblation vvas euer counted a sacrifice in the Church vvhat other sacrifice is offered euery vvhere but the sacrifice of the masse vvhich is a moste cleane sacrifice not only in respecte of the out vvard forme vvhich is vnbloudy but also in respecte of the moste chaste pure virginall fleshe and bloud of Christe vv ch it conteineth Mat 26. Luc. 22. Mar 14. â— Cor 11. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And this is the Sacrifice vvhich Christe offered at his laste supper vvhen taking bread and vvine in to his handes he blessed them and by blessing turning them into his sacred body and bloud he told his disciples that it vvas his body and bloud vvhich hee gauefor them In vvhich vvords he can meane noe other thing then the sacrifice of his body and bloud vvhich he offered vnder the formes of bread and vvine For to glosse those vvords as Caluin dothe as thoughe Christe had sayed this is my body that is this is a figure of my bodye vvhich shal be giuen for you is very violent and repugnaunt to the texte bicause the greeke texte vsethe the presentence vvhich is giuen for you vvhich is povvred out for you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And therfore vnderstandethe some thinge vvhich euen then vvas giuen for them And seing that Caluins bread and figure could only be sayed to bee giuen to them but not for them that vvhich then he gaue for them vvas his body and blood vvhich vnder the forme of bread and vvine he offered for them And seing that he bad his Apostles to doe as he had doone that is to offer the same sacrifice vvhich hee did for so muche the Latin vvorde facite in that place and vvith such circumstances importeth It must needes follovve that hee commaunded the Apostles and in them their successours to offer Sacrifice and the same sacrifice vv ch hee offered for his Apostles at his laste supper vvhich is the sacrifice of the masse This veritie I could proue more largely by other circumstances of this place especially according to the greeke and I could alleage that place of sainct Paule vvhere hee compares table to table 1. Cor. 10. that is altare to altare saying that vvee can not be pertakers of the table of our lord and of the deuill that is vve can not participate of that vvhich is offered on the altars of the gentils and of that also vvhich is offered on the Christians altare and out of this place I could proue that in sainct Paules tyme there vvas some thing offered on the Christians altars vvhich hee opposeth to that vvhich vvas offered on the paganes altars Hier. ep ad Marcellam Aug. l 16 cit c. 22 lib. â— cont â—â—uersarium egis c. 10 Damase l. 4. de fice c. 14. Theoph in c 5 Heb Arnob in Psal 109. I could also presse our aduersaries and oppresse then vvith the authoritie and multitude of fathers vvhoe all acknovvledge that Christe at his laste supper offered a sacrifice of his ovvne body and bloud vnder the forme of bread and vvine and that therby he vvas a preest according to the order of Melchisedech but this veritie I haue partely proued allready in prouing Christ to bee an aeternall Preest according to the order of Melchisedech partely I shall herafter proue vvheÌ„ in the laste booke vppoÌ„ occasioÌ„ I shall demonstrate the reall preseÌ„ce of Christes body bloud in the sacrameÌ„t of the Altare as for the fathers authoritie it vvere but loste labour to alleage it for any proofe of this veritie l. de abrog Missa bicause Luther hathe allready debarred vs froÌ„ suche proofes and vvill telle vs plaiÌ„ly that they are not to bee credited in this matter bicause they vvere but meÌ„ And Caluin also vvill tell mee l â— Instit c. â—◠§. 10. that seing that this supper is the supper of the lorde there is noe reason vvhy vvee should bee moued vvith any auctoritie of men or prescription of yeares Vvherfore let them cary avvay the bucklers let them be credited before practise of the Churche vvhich as yet allvvayes offered sacrifice before reason vvhich telleth vs that religion can not stande vvithout a sacrifice Mat. â—6 Luc 22. Mar. 4. 1. Cor. 11. before the plaine texte of scripture vvhich in plaine vvords affirmeth that Christe gaue his body and povvred out his bood at his laste supper for his disciples vvhich vvords can importe noe lesse then a sacrifice before all fathers also bicause they vvere but men and our reformers as it seemes are godds let theÌ„ gaine the gole and gette the victorie in this coÌ„trouersie vvhat shall they game therby truly only this that amoÌ„gest them is noe religion For if they haue noe
can they giue none vnto their Iudges and consequently nether the Prince nor the Iudge hathe authoritie to giue sentence or to punishe any malefactours bicause if they haue no authoritie they are but priuate men For although priuate men may vim vi repellere repelle force by force and stande in their ovvne defence that is vvarde a blovve vvhen it is offered and strike rather then be stricken yea kille rather then be killed bicause this is but to defende them selues and to repelle iniurie yet after that the iniurie is receued and quite paste they can not them selues requite the euill receiued vvith a like euill bicause that vvere not to defende but to reuenge them selues vvhich God hathe reserued to him selfe to them to vvhome hee hathe giuen authoritie and vvill not in any vvise that priuate mē bee their ovvne Iudges and reuengers bicause that vvere to open the gappe to all outrages much lesse vvill hee permit them to punishe them vvhoe haue doone iniuries vnto others vvherfore if Princes haue noe authoritie to commaund as in the last chapter by this nevv doctrine I haue proued that they haue not thē are they priuate men so can nether reuēge their ovvne nor others iniuries and consequently vniustly they condemne malefactours to prison to death and other paines and penalties And truly if it be true vvhich Luther and Caluin and their follovvers also affirme that noe man can bynde vs in cōscience by lavve and commaundement yea if it bee good doctrine vvhich is their doctrine as in the nexte booke shal be related Chap. ◠that by Christ and Christian faythe vvee are freed from all obligation of diuine lavves also then the malefactour hathe great scope giuē him to auoyd the Iudges sentēce although the offence be manifest For suppose the Iudge condemne him for transgression of the Princes lavve he may confesse the faulte and cōtemne the sentence And first he may saye that his sentence can not bynde him in conscience to accepte of it bicause by Christe hee is made a free man subiecte in conscience nether to man nor mans lavve nor sentence Secondly he maye confess that he hathe doone contrarie to the kinges lavve and yet plead not guiltie alleaging that the Princes lavve can not bynde him in conscience bicause hee is exempted by Christe from all humaine lavves and commaundements And then hee maye saye that vvhere noe lavve byndes in consciēce there is noe obligation vvhere noe obligation there is noe sinne and soe hee maye confesse the facte and yet plead not guiltie bicause hee sinned not and he may also refuse the punishement by sentence decred bicause vvhere noe sinne is there noe payne is due Or if the Iudge condemne him for breakinge Gods lavve in stealing murdering or such like hee maye confesse like vvise the facte and yet denye the faulte bicause hee is so free that God his lavve also can not bynde him and seing that vvhere noe obligation is there can bee noe faulte bicause euerye sinne is against some bonde or obligation hee maye claime absolution from the payne by the title of innocencie bicause vvhere no sinne is there no paine can bee devve Yea althoughe hee confesse that hee haue sinned vvhich yet hee neede not in transgressing Gods lavve yet hee may escape the sentence by appeale For hee may saye I confesse the faulte for vvhich I ame condemned but I refuse to stande to your sentence I appeale to God let him punishe mee if hee vvill vvhich I knovve not hovve hee can do iustly if I bee free from his lavves in conscience but of your sentence I vvill not accepte and if you vrge mee vvith conscience and alleage that I ame bounde in conscience to stande to your arbitrement bicause you are appointed to do iustice I chalenge Christian freedom by vvhich I ame so free that in conscience I ame not bound to mans lavve nor sentence And if this vvill not serue to free him from the sentence as I see noe reasou vvhy it should not serue then hee may defende him selfe by other opinions of the nevve reformers Hee maye saye that by Luthers and Caluins opinions vvhich are the Patriarches of the reformed Churche See the next booke chap. 6. hee is taught that hee hathe noe free vvill nor choise in anye action vv ch hee doeth vvhether it be good or badde and that therfore the iudge is vnreasonable cruel and barbarous in condemning him for thefte murder or adoultrie vvhich vvas not in his povver to auoyed And as iustly might he condemne him for not flyinge at the Kinges commaundement as for not absteining from murder vvhen ether by anger or desire of mony hee vvas moued thervnto Hee might alleage also for his defence that God moued him vnto those offences vvhich he committed and so forcibly also that hee could not resiste him In the fifte booke chap. 1. for this is Caluins opinion as before is declared yea hee might saye and haue Caluin also for his authour that God vvas the authour and principall agent of the thefte or murder for vvhich hee is cōdemned and that therfore by good consequence hee can not iustly be condemned for that in vvhich God hathe more patte then he hathe and to vvhich he moued him so forcibly that hee could not resiste Vvhat is this then gentle reader but to condemne all Iudges and tribunall seates to stoppe the Iudges mouthe from pronounncing any sentence and to loose the bridle vnto all malefactours vvho may commit vvhat outrage they vvill bicause there is no tribunall vvhich can iustly condemne them and no sentence can be pronounced against them vvhich they may not avoid by Luthers and Caluins doctrine The third Chapter shevveth hovv the former doctrine bringeth all Princes lavvet in contempte A Kingdome is commonly called a body not naturall but ciuil and political vvhose head is the King vvhose eyes are the Kinges counsaylers vvhose body and members are the people and vvhose soule is the lavve For as the natural body of man so soone as the soule hathe lefte it looseth all vitall operation becommeth gaste vgly and deformed devoide of colour and beautie and subiecte to dissolution of all the members by putrefaction So the body of a Kingdome destitute of lavve hathe noe reasonable action or motion bicause it vvantes the rule of the lavve vvhich squareth out all suche operations it loosethe all beautie bicause it vvanteth lavve to set dovvne an vniforme order vvhich is the beautie of all common vvelthes and it tendeth to a dissolution of all the partes and members bicause it is destitute of lavve vvhich is the soule and sinevve vvhich vniteth and knitteth these diuerse partes together Vvherfore Plato sayed that if men vvete lavvlesse and destitute of lavves l. 9 deleg they vvould litle differ from brute beastes and the reason is bicause as I haue sayed vvithout lavves there vvould bee noe reasonable operations nor order amongest men by vvhich especially a societie of men differeth
demonstrated See the third booke They assure their Schollers also that the iustifying faith is a full assuraâ—nce of iustice saluation and election as may appear by their ovvn vvords vvhich I haue in this seuenth booke allready set dovvn vvhich also giues great occasion of an insolent pride For if vvhen vve persuade our selues as Catholikes doe that vvee are nether sure vvhat novv vve are before God nor vvhat shall become of vs hereafter vve haue occasion to humiliate our selues Phil. 2. and to vvorke our saluation in feare then certes he that persuadethe him selfe that hee is cocke-sure of his saluation hathe great occasion to become carelesse arrogaunte hautie and high-mynded Greg l. 6. Reg c. 186. Vve haue an example of a noble vvoeman called Gregoria mayd of honour to the Emperess vvâ—oe hauing conceiued highly of saint Gregories sanctitie vvrote vnto him to imparte vnto her a secret to vvit vvhether her sinnes vvere forgiuen or noe but sainct Gregorie ansvvered her that she demaunded of him a harde and vnprofitable questioÌ„ harde bicause his sanct tie vvas not such as to deserue a reuelation from God of so secret a matter vnprofitable bicause sayeth he such a reuelation vnto you vvere not expedient better it is that you should be ignoraunte of that till the laste daye vvhich must allvvayes be feared suspected that in the meane tyme you may vvash avvay your sinnes by teares of contrition See the first booke â—hap â— They affirme also that euery man hath a priuate spirite by vvhich hee is sure vvhich is true scripture and vvhat is the true meaning therof vvho therfore bee hee man or vvoman clarke or cobler is supreme Iudge of religion and is to rely nether on Pope nor Churche nor Councell for faithe and religion Vvhich doctrine hovve highe it is able to enhaunce the spirites of men that are so persuaded a blinde man may see and this is the very cause vvhy Luther vvill iudge both of Churches and Councells and preferre his ovvn iudgemeÌ„t before them all See the first booke chap. 3. For althoughe hee sayeth only that by scripture hee vvill iudge Fathers Churches Apostles Angelles also yet seing that the controuersie is not vvhether fathers or scriptures are to beleeued bicause they vvere neuer contrarie but rather vvhether Luther or they better vnderstood the scriptures hee maketh him selfe in effecte Iudge of Churche Pope Councelles Fathers and Angells vvherin hovv brauely he playeth the parte of Lucifer it is as euident as that Luther and Lucifer begin vvith a letter The thirteenth Chapter shevveth hovv theyr doctrine induceth men to idlenes yea hovv idlenes according their doctrine is the perfection of a Christian life ALl creaturs are created to vvorke labour and so they must attaine vnto their ende and perfection bicause God and nature hathe so ordained it The angelicall spirits like byrds in the spring-tyme for heauen is a continuall spring-tyde sing prayses vnto their Creatour and attend continually vppon the diuine maiestie on highe yet so that they haue also an eye vnto our affayres and necessities in this lovver vvorld For the suprem Angells receue illuminations from God vvhich they imparte vnto the inferiour vvhich are allvvayes occupied in garding and defending vs and menaging our affaires and so ether mediately or immediately they are administratorij Spiritus Heb. â— administring spirits The heauens moue continually for the better and more equal bestovving of their light and influences vppon this inferiour vvorld The Sonne leaues our hemisphere at night not to sleep or to rest him selfe but to ronne another course in the other Hemisphere for the illuminating of those that are Antipodes vnto vs vvhich course being ronne he retournes to vs in the morning so is neuer idle The moone euery monethe endes her course euery starre and planet hathe his taske appointed him vvhich in a certain tyme he must accomplish The earthe vvheÌ„ he is out of his place moueth dovvn vvard to the Center and vvhen by force hee is deteined hee shevveth by his vvaite vvhat an inclination hee hathe vnto his proper motion The fier mounteth aboue all tovvardes the Concauitie of the Moone vvhich is his naturall place the vvater and ayre take vp the middle roomes vvhere and vvhether they moue continually Trees plantes and hearbes seeme in vvinter to take their rest after theyr former labours and in the spring tyme they fall to vvorke again and first they bringe forthe leaues then bloomes and blossomes and lastly the svveete frutes of their labours Brute beastes besides the labours to vvhich by man they are appointed haue their ovvn proper exercises in vvhich they occupie them selues The bee is not soe bigge in body as busie in operation in so much that vvhen vve vvill describe a laborious maÌ„ vvee say that he is as busie as a bee These litle creaturs vvhat paynes take they in gathering their hony in making their combes in disposing and vvorking their hony and vvhilest some are vvorking abroad to bringe home the matter of hony some staye at home to order it some vvatche for the securitie of them that labour and all are incensed against the idle drones and do not only expelle them out of theyr company but punishe them also seuerly euen vnto death it selfe Prou 6. The Ante also of vvhome the scripture biddeth the idle parson to learne his lesson laboureth in the sommer to make prouision for that on vvhich he is to liue in vvinter So laborious are these litle creaturs that many tymes they cary burdens bigger then them selues Plin l. â—â— c. 1. Horat. l. 1. Satyr 1. and that vvith such diligence that vvith passing often times one vvay their litle feete doe make a pathe to appeare euen in the flinte And vvhen amongest other prouision they haue brought home their corne to their barnes they are not idle after haruest is doone but sometymes they are occupied in nibling vppon the endes of the corne and graines least they should grovve a freshe and least that the moysture of the earthe corrupte their corne they bring it forthe in a sonnie daye to drying and aftervvardes they cary it againe into their granaries Byrdes builde their ovvne nestes and flye farre and often for the tymber and morter vvhich is belonging vnto the making of such a pallace Conyes vvorke their burrovves out of the grouÌ„d and there is noe creature vvhich is not deputed to vvorke in one kind or other And shall vve thinke that mans felicitie consisteth in idlenes Noe noe as the birde is bread to flye so man is borne to vvorke and labour Iob. â— in so much that God appointed Adam his taske in Paradise vvhich vvas to labour till the grounde vvhich labour notvvithstanding should haue been noe paine but rather a pleasure and recreatioÌ„ vnto him For if Cirus king of the Persians tooke such delight in gardening in so much that he caste the beddes and knottes of his ovvne gardeÌ„s sette his
intended conclusion vvhich I maye doe vvith as muche breuitie as facilitie For if God bee the autour of all sinne then if vvee maye gather vvhat the tree is by the frute hee is of a malitious nature as is before proued and if hee commaund vs impossibilities and punishe vs vvith Hell fyer for not fullfilling them then is hee vnreasonable cruel and barbarous And if vvee once make this conceit of God as vvee must needes if vvee beleeue the aduersaries opinioÌ„ then must our hartes of necessitie bee cold in religion and vvorship of God For vvho can bee induced to vvorship loue and honour such a God in vvhome is nothing vvhich is amiable nothing vvorthy honour vvel may vvee feare him for his crueltie but loue him and honour him from the harte vve can not And so religion fallethe The third Chapter shevveth that in contempte of the Churches authoritie they bring all religion in contempte IT is a maxime and almost an article of faithe receued amoÌ„gest the reformers that the true Churche vvhich once vvas hathe erred grosselye in no lesser matters then faithe iustification merit freevvil vvorkes satisfaction purgatorie prayer to Sainctes vvorship of images nuÌ„ber and vertue of Sacramentes Sacrifice such like Yea they confess that the Romain Church vvas once the true Church but thy adde vvith all that aftervvardes it erred grossely and fell sovvlye novv of the Church of Christ is become the Synagogue of the deuil This is the cause vvhy vvhen vvee vrge the authoritie of the ancient and present Churche for the proofe of the reall presence free vvill prayer to saintes sacrifice of the Masse they ansvvere vs that the Church vvas but a congregation of men vvhich hathe erred in these and other matters And therfore Luther careth not for a thousand Churches and Caluin Beza and others despise all the Councelles and ancient fathers as appearethe by their vvordes vvhich are related in the first booke and the third and fourth chapter So that vppon the bare authoritie of the Churche they vvill not hange their faithe as they saye least they hange their soules bicause the Churche as it maye bee deceued so it maye deceue I demaund of theÌ„ therfore vvhat assuraunce they haue of scripture and by vvhat meanes they come to the knovvledge of it A Catholique vvould say that he beleeuethe these bookes to bee the vvorde of god bicause the Catholike Church vvhich is it the piller of truthe vvhich by the sonne of God vvas promised a spirit vvhich should teach her all veritie 10.14.15 l. on t epist fund c. â— hath cuer so beleened and defined Vvherfore saint Austine sayeth that hee vvould not beleeue the ghospel vnlesse the Churches authoritie mâ—ued him not that the Church maketh scriptures or giueth them their truthe and veritie for that they haue of God vvho vvas the indighter of them but bicause vvee can not knovv vvhich is Scripture vvhich is not but by the voice of the Church to vvhich only in this matter the ancient fathers vvere vvont to harken as Ireneus l. 2 c 2 3. 4. l prâ—esc de expos Symb. l. 2 c 1. 46. l. 4. c 11. Tertulian sainct Hierom Leo the first and dâ—uers others of vvhom Nicephorus maketh mention Vvherfore the first Toletane Councel in the one and tvventith canoÌ„ accurseth theÌ„ vvho accept of any other Scriptures theÌ„ those vvhich the Catholique Churche receiueth Hee vvould alleage for an argumeÌ„t that Christemade Peter his successour the Pope supreme pastour of the Church and commaunded him to feed his sheep lo. 2. and seing that a principal office of the shepheard is to shevv them suche pasturs as are most holsom for them it perteineth to the â—uprem Pastoure of the Churche to tell vs infallibly vvhich are the true scriptures for vvhen hee declareth vv ch are the true Scripturs he shevves vs our pasture the place vvher vvee are to graze and vvhen hee expoundethe them hee feedethe vs. And seing that the Pope of Rome is this Pastour as is proued in the last chapter of the first booke it follovveth that vvee must receue that for scripture vvhich hee allovveth of as scripture He vvould alleage also the antiquitie of scriptures for a profe of their sinceritie l. 2. cont Ap. 〈…〉 prabar Euangel in Apolog c 19. 20. 24. bicause Moyses vvhoe vvas the vvriter of a great part of the old testament as Iosephus Tertulian and Eusebius affirme by many handred yeares vvas more ancieÌ„t then all the vvritâ—rs of the Romains and Grecians also vv ch therfore deserue great credit reuerence 1 Tuse bicause as Cicero sayeth in his Tusculane questions to Antiquitie noe lesse is devve Hee vvould confirme this argument by another of no lesse efficacie to vvit that these bookes haue beene conserued so many thousand yeares not vvithstaÌ„ding so many captiuities of the Ievves and persecutions of the Christians vvhich argueth that God vvho vvas the Authour of them had a speciall care of them and a vigilant eye vnto them as vnto his ovvn vvord and vvriting Hee might alleage also the coÌ„formitie of those booke vvhich vvere indighted of diuers at diuers tymes and yet haue in them no contrarieties and vvere translated out of Hebrevv into Latin by 70 Interpretours â—nstin orat paroen ad geÌ„â—â—â— diuersely disposed vvho yet not vvithstanding soe aggreed as if all their traÌ„slations had been copied out of one For vvhich causes euen the Gentils Paganes them selues haue borne great respect vnto these vvritinges not daring to mingle them vvith their ê“phane vvritinges bicause as Iosephus and Eusebius affirme some that haue atteÌ„pted it l â—â— Aut. c. 1. â— l. â— praeparâ— â— by the diuine and secret povver haue beene very sharpely and seuerly punished all vv ch is vvarraÌ„ted by historie traditioÌ„ This a Catholike vvould saye vvith great applause and no lesse probabilitie for the authoritie of scripture But vvhat vvould or vvhat could our reformers saye vvould they saye vvith the Catholike that they beleeue them to bee holy scripture bicause the Church sayeth so â—â— Hostâ— l. 3. â—â—nt Brent Luther in deed sayeth that hee in this point beleeuethe the Churche and Pope and good reason hathe hee bicause of vvhoÌ„ did hee receue the scriptures vvhen hee began first to preach his nevv doctrine but of the Romaine Churche vvho cuer had the custody of them euen since the tyme of the Apostles And hovve could he knovve that the ghospel of the Nazarens of sainct Barnabas Euseb l. â— c. 25. and sainct Thomas vvere not as rrue scripture as the ghospel of sainct Matthevve and other Euangelistes but that the Romain Churche allovved of these and not of those For this cause some of them do saye that in this point they must needs beleeue the Pope Romain Church bicause they caÌ„ not in deed haue any probable knovvledge of Scripture but by this meanes as shall appeare by the refutatioÌ„ of all other meanes vvhich they
and others contemned scriptures bothe for the Phrase and matter and esteemed no more of them then vve do of Aesops fables They may ansvvere mee peraduenture and novv I knovv not vvhat else they can ansvvere that the spirit assurethe them that these bookes no other are the holy Scripture But against this spirit I haue disputed at large in the â—rst booke and third Chapter and so I might referre the reformer and the reader vnto my argumentes vvher vvith in the afore sayd place I haue refuted this phantasticall spirit yet to ease them bothe of that labour I vvill in a vvorde reiecte this ansvvere by reiecting this spirit I vvill aske of him that thinkes him selfe moste deeplye inspired vvhy bee beleeueth this his ovvn priuate spirit rather then the common spirit of the Churche especially seing that it is more like that God vvil more amplye communicate his spirit to his Churche then to a priuate man and if the Churche may be deceued as they say shee may not vvith standing that Christ promised her a spirit vvhich should teach her all veritie Io. 14.15 vvhy maye not euery priuate maÌ„ doubte at least least his ovvne priuate Spirit bee a lying and deceiuing spirit hee ansvvereth that his spirit assures him that it is a true spirit But hovve dothe it assure him by vvhat reasons miracles or reuelations by no such meanes saieth hee it dothe assure me but yet I ame sure Vvhy art thou sure if nether for reasons nor miracles nor reuelations then art thou sure only bicause thou thinkest thy selfe sure And so did Suenlkfeldius thinke him selfe sure of a right spirit vvhen he denyed all scriptures and vvould bee ruled only by the invvard spirit and yet hee for all his suernes vvas deceued and consequently so mayst thou bee thoughe thou thinke thy selfe assured And do not all heretiques thinke then selues to bee inspired vvith the right spirit As they therfore are deceued So mayst thou bee vnlesse thou haue some certaine rule and Iudge suche as the Churche is to acertaine thee of thy spirit If novve some infidel or atheist vvould deny the old and nevve testament to bee holy scripture hovve vvouldst thou conuince them vvhat a Catholike could saye for the proofe of scripture I haue allready declared I demaund therfore vvhat thou vvho takest vppon the to bee a reformed Christian couldst alleage for the authoritie of Scripture Vvouldst thou alleage the Churches definition or tradition or common coÌ„sent hee vvould saye Tushe tell mee not of Churche Tradition Fathers Councels all these by your ovvn confession maye erre and haue erred in other as great matters as this and therfore this can bee no sufficient vvarraunt Vvouldst thou saye that scripture giueth testimony of her selfe that shee is Scripture hee vvoulde aske thee vvheare and thou shouldst not bee able to quote the place if thou couldst yet hee vvould say that Scripture is not to bee beleeued in her ovvne cause and that as hee doubteth of scripture so hee doubteth vvhether it bee Scripture vv ch affirmethe these bookes to be Scriptur Vvouldst thou say that the phrase of scripture argueth it to bee god his ovvn vvord Hee vvould tell thee that hee vvill shevve thee as good phrases in Tullie Liuie other ê“phane vvriters And if thou shouldst saye that thy spirit assures thee that these bookes are of Gods ovvn indighting hee vvould laughe at thee and tell thee that Suenkfeldius by his spirit denyed all scripture and that hee hathe no more assuraunce of thy spirit then of his Yea hee vvill come vppon thee vvithe the coÌ„mon spirit of the Romain Churche and tell thee that if that spirit maye deceue as thou sayest it maye muche more may thy priuate spirit deceue thee and all that vvill bee so mad as to beleeue thee And so if thou contemne the authoritie of the Romain Churche thou shallt bee able to assure him no more of Scripture then of a Robin Hoods tale If the Churches authoritie then bee reiected as insufficient vvee haue no probable assuraunce of scripture and so vvee may iustly doubte least it bee but some Apocriphal vvriting vv ch hathe hetherto been called the vvord of God to keepe fooles in avve And if vvee may doubte of the bookes of Scripture vvee maye as iustly doubte of the conteÌ„tes and so the mysteries of the Trinitie and incarnation Christes life doctrine Passion death and resurrection may bee called in question and soe Christian religion falleth and seing that after an Apostasie from Christianitie vvee haue noe reason to imbrace Turcisnie or the Iudaicall ceremonies much lesse the superstitions of Paganes and Idolatours adevve all religion and vvelcome Atheisme And thus thou seest gentle reader hovve contempt of Scriptur must needs follovv the contempte of the Churches authoritie vvhich being layed a side vvee haue not so much as probable assuraunce of Scripture or Christian religion Vvherfore let vs holde faste vvith the Catholike Apostolike and Romaine Churche and let vs neuer linke our selues in religion vvith the reformers vvho like Chammes contemne their mother the Churche least vvee bee inforced to shake handes vvith Atheistes vvhose frendship vvee can not refuse if vvee breake amitie and league vvith the Romaine Churche as is most euidently demonstrated The fourth Chapter shevveth that in admitting some bookes of Scripture and reiecting others they open the gapp to contempt of all Scripture and religion Vve say commonly that a lyer had need to haue a good memorie for othervvise he being allvvayes ready to speake not as the truthe requireth but as he may best for the present serue his ovvn turne vvill bee in daunger to contradict him selfe and to varye in his ovvn tale for vvant of vvhich memorie the reformers do often eate their vvordes and goe from that vvhich before they stood vnto And amongest many other examples this may serue for one that they vvill needes receue scripture at the Romain Churches hand and for this point accompte her authoritie sufficient but their memorie is so shorte that forgetting them selues they vvill not accepte of the number of the bookes of scripture vvhich shee hathe deliuered vnto them althoughe they haue not any other vvarrauÌ„t of Scripture then they haue of the number of the bookes of Scripture vvhich is the Romain Churches authoritie I must therfore desire them better to remeÌ„ber them selues For if the Romaine Churche bee of sufficient credit to vvarraunt vs of Scripture vvhy is not her authoritie a sufficieÌ„t vvarraunt also for the nuÌ„ber of the bookes of Scripture Or if shee maye erre in the nuÌ„ber of the bookes of scripture she may erre also in scripture and so if they vvould remember them selues better and tubbe their brovves harder they vvould see plainly that ether they should take all or none of her bicause her authoritie is as sufficieÌ„t being one and the same to vvarraunt vs for the number of the bookes of Scripture as for scripture If they beleeue then that ther is scripture bicause shee
sayethe so they must beleeue that ther are so many bookes of scriptures bicause shee also sayeth soe her vvord being as good for the one as for the other But as they are lyers so are they forgetfull therfore so contrarie in their tale that they vvill saye that they beleeue her in that but not in this vvher as rather it follovvethe that they beleeue her nether in the one nor in the other but onlye do giue credit to their priuate spirite imaginations affirming that to be scripture vvhich they imagin those bookes only to bee scripture vvhich their spirit liketh of Vvherfore Luther affirmeth that the booke of Iob is but a tale in ser con tit de libris vet noui test deuised to set forthe an example of patience before our eyes hee iesteth at the autour of Ecclesiastes saying that he vvanteth bootes and spurres and therfore rideth in his sockes as he did vvhen he vvas a fryar Praef. in nouum Test Yea he spareth not the nevve testament affirming that he liketh not of the common opinion vvhich allovveth of fovvre ghospelles and hee addeth that sainct Ihons is the onlye true and principal ghospel vvhence it follovveth that the other three are not authenticall For if they vvere then vvere all fovver of equall authoritie Prafat in Heb. and so saint Ihons ghospel vvere not the principal hee denyes that the epistle to the Hebrevves is Apostolical the like is his ceÌ„sure of the epistle of Iude and Iames. Praefat. li. 1. Inst c. 11. §. 8 l 2 c. 5. §. 18. l. â— c. 5. §. 8. Ant. sâ—ss 1â— Caluin reiecteth the bookes of vvisdom of Ecclesiasticus of Iudith of the machabees of Tobie And vvhy trulye for no other reason then that these bookes seem most coÌ„trarie to diuers points of their doctrine For other vvise seing that they can not discerne scripture from other vvritings but by the ceÌ„sure of the Romain Church as is proued in the last Chapter they haue noe reasoÌ„ to receue some bookes on her vvord and not all seing that she giueth the same testimonie of all But giue an Atheist this aduaÌ„tage and vvhat vvill hee say hee vvill tell the Reformers that hee seethe no other vvarraunt vvhich they haue for the epistle to the Romains then for the epistle to the Hebrevves and the epistle of saint Iames nor for saint Ihons ghospel more then for the other threeâ— nor for Genesis more then the first and second booke of the Machabies Tobie Iudith and Iob and that therfore if the reformers denye these hee vvill deny all the other bicause if the Romain Churches vvarrant for they haue no other vvarrant as in the former Chapter is proued bee not sufficient for some of these bookes it can bee no sufficieÌ„t vvarraÌ„t for any And so he vvill saye that you maye as vvell denye all scripture as some bookes of scripture or if you vvillnot he vvill denye it for you and ground him selfe in your ovvn doctrine And hee vvill yet goe farther auouche that if hee maye doubte of Scripture as vvhy not bicause ther is no other vvarraunt for it but the Romaine Churches vvord hee vvill doubte also of the contentes of Scripture and so hee vvill call in questioÌ„ Moyses Christe the Apostles the Trinitie the Incarnation the Passion of Christe and ResurrectioÌ„ and all the mysteries of Christian religion Vvherfore as you credit the Romain Church for scripture so giue her credit for the nuÌ„ber of the bookes esscripture bicause her vvord vvarraunt is as good for this as for that or if you vvill not beleeue her in this you can haue no assuraunce of any parte of Scripture and so you maye bringe all into question vvhence follovveth contempte of all religion as is before proued The fifte Chapter proueth that their dissension in religion openeth the gap to contempt of all religion NOthing is of more force theÌ„ religioÌ„ vvhich keepeth vs in avve bridleth our appetites ruleth our actions gouerneth our life and inculcateth vnto vs our dutie tovvards God and man And if there vvere noe other argument then the example of so many thousand martyrs vvho haue endured so exquisite tormeÌ„ts and so horrible deathes rather then they vvould denye their religion it vvere sufficient to beare vvitnesse for religion that it is of greater force then all the violence of the tyrauntes then all their engiues and instrumentes of crueltie yea then death it selfe But so the force of a riuer is great and so great that sometymes it ouer-throvveth hovvses and bridges and beateth dovvne all vvhich staÌ„dethe in the vvaye of his streame but yet diuide it into many litle brookes and a childe vvill resiste his force Euen so religion is of great force and efficacie and beareth a great svvaye in the life of man but yet if it bee diuided into diuers sectes it looseth force and vigour and vvheras vvhilest it remaineth vnited See the second booke chap. 6. it vvill not bee resisted vvhen it is diuided it is easilic coÌ„temned I haue already described the iarres and dissensions of the Reformers in matters of religion and by this marke I haue descried them to bee heretikes novv let vs see vvhat an aduantage this their dissention giueth to an Atheist and vvhat a vvide gap it openeth vnto Atheisme An Atheist out of these their diuersities of opinions maye easilie dravv this discourse I see sayeth hee or at least hee maye saye diuers sects and opinions diuers Synagogues and religions diuers conuenticles and congregations amongest you vvhich as they haue diuersnames so professe they diuers doctrines and follovve diuers Authours And some of them are called Lutheranes some Caluinistes vvhich are by a subdiuision parted into softe and rigorous Lutheranes and into Protestantes Puritans others are called Zuinglians others Bezites others Anabaptistes others Libertines others Brovvnistes others Martinistes others are of the familie of loue others of the daÌ„ned crevve And althoughe all these aggree against the Romaine Catholike and Apostolike Churche yet they disagree amongest them selues and althoughe they hold many and those also contrarie opinions yet they all vse one argumeÌ„t to proue their opinions to vvit Scripture sensed by their priuate spirit And so vvill this Atheist saye if I beleeue one of these sectes I must beleeue all bicause they alleage one proofe for their religion but seing that I can not beleeue all bicause they teache contrarieties least I do any partial vvronge in preferring one before another all hauing the same reason I vvill beleeue none of of them all nor none of their opinions And seing that they condemne the Catholike and Romain religion for a fardell of superstitions vvhich not vvithstaÌ„ding vvas euer counted the true Christian religion euen by the Paganes them selues vvho therfore persequuted it and haue noe reason to bynde mee to any of their religions vnlesse I vvill be bound to an impossibilitie that is to bee of all their religions and nether can nether
vvill vvith any reason persuade me to bee ether Turke or Ievve I may by authoritie bee of noe religion And thus Atheisme must needs follovv diuision in religion contempt of the Romaine Church The sixte Chapter shevveth hovv their vvant of a visible head giuethe a great aduantage to Atheistes and such as mocke at all religion IN the first booke and last chapter I haue declared at large hovve necessarie a visible head is in all societies and especially in the Church of Christe and I haue also demonstrated that ther is no suche visible head in the Synagogue of the reformers vvhence I haue inferred that amongest them it is lavvfull for euerye heretike to preach vvhat doctrine hee vvill and no man shall cōtrolle him Novve I ame to deduce another conclusion to vvit that thus also the gate and gapp is opened vnto Atheistes and godlesse and irreligious persons vvhich I can do easily and vvill doe in a vvord For if a visible head bee vvanting euery man may preach and imbrace vvhat religion hee vvill as in the alleaged place I haue proued and seing that if this head bee vvanting ther is noe certaintie for any religion but only the priuate spirite and bare scripture vvhich are altogether vncertaine In the first booke ch 2.3 as before is proued it vvill follovv that a man shall haue no more reason to imbrace one religion thē another yea hee shall haue noe probable reason to induce him to any religion at all and consequentlye he may take good leaue to bee of no religion And thus he may argue in forme and figure If ther be no visible head to determine by authoritie vvhat religion is to be imbraced euery man may be of vvhat religion he vvill and no man can controlle him and so I also may vse my libertie in choosing my religion as vvel as another And seing that if the authoritie of a visible head be layed a side I haue no more reason to bee of one religion then another bicause all religions alleage the same reason vvhich is no reason to vvit bare scripture sensed by the priuate spirite and I can not possibly be of all bicause they be contrarie to one another I may by good reason refuse to bee of any religion and noe man can controlle me for it if there bee no visible head vvho can proue that hee hathe authoritie to determine of religion And so he that forsaketh the Catholique Church vvhere only this visible head is to bee found hath leaue and licence to bee of vvhat religion hee vvill yea to be of no religion at all bicause leauing that hee hathe noe more reason to bee of one religion then another bicause hee hath no other reason then bare scripture sensed by a priuate spirite vvhich is not sufficient as is proued in my first booke and third chapter yea leauing the Catholike Churche he can not haue any probable reason to induce him to any of these nevv religions as I haue proued in my first booke and fifte chapter and seing that God nether can nor vvill commande him to bee of a religion for vvhich hee seeth no reason nor motiue vvhich is sufficient to induce a reasonable man as in the same place is proued hee maye vvith reason after hee hath lefte the Catholike Churche ioyne vvith Atheistes vvhoe are of noe religion The seuenth Chapter shevveth hovv the Reformers in denial of the real praesence do ruine Christian religion and call all the other mysteries of faithe in question SAcrifice is a thing so highly pleasing and acceptable vnto God that he vvill haue none to be pertakers vvith him in such honour but reserueth it as an homage devv only to him selfe and proper to a diuine maiestie 1. Reg. 15. Yet obedience is more gratefull vnto him then all the Hecatombs and Sacrifices in the vvorld bicause by sacrifice vve consecrate vnto his seruice the liues and substaunce of brute beastes but by obedience vvee make a burnt-offering and Holocaust of our ovvne soules resigning our desires and vvilles yea our ovvn selues vvholly vnto his vvill and pleasure But vvhilest this obedience resteth in the vvill thoughe it be very meritorious yet hath it not the full complement of perfection bicause so longe as the vvill hathe reason to persuade her the lesse thankes she deserueth for obeying but vvhen this vertue reachethe to the vnderstanding and maketh reason against sence and aboue reason to yeeld to more then reason can reach vnto then hath this vertue the topp of her perfection But this perfection shee hath not of her selfe bicause of her selfe she can only submitte the vvill vnto the commaundement of the Superiour but she is fayne to borrovv so much of the Theologicall vertue called Faithe vvhose propertie is to make the verie vnderstanding to stoupe vvithout any reason to yeeld to thinges for vvhich ther is noe reason bicause they are aboue reason Many such thinges ther are in Christian faithe vvhich seeme to sense senseless to reason vnreasonable and to humaine faithe incredible and as farre as mans reason can see euen to diuine povver impossible Emongest the vvhich three are the most principall and to humain reason most incredible to vvit the Trinitie in vv ch vvee beleeue that three are one that is that three persons are one God The incarnation in vv ch vvee cōfess that tvvoe are one that is tvvoe natures in Christe the one diuine the other humaine are one and the same person the blessed sacramēt of the altare in vvhich vve acknovvledge that bread and vvine by the vertue of Christes vvorde are changed into his body and bloud and that one body is not only in one but in diuers places at one and the selfe same tyme But as these three are the hardest to conceue of all the mysteries of Christian fayth so hath our blessed Sauiour giuen vs more plaine and euident testimonies of them in his holy vvritte then of any other vvhich are more easilie to be conceued For the blessed Trinitie vvhat more pregnaunt proofes can vve desire then vve haue in sainte Matthevv Going therfore teach you all nations in the name of the father cap. vlt. and of the sonne and of the holy ghost Vvhere the ancient fathers note that three are named to signifie three distinct persones and yet Christe biddeth his Apostles to baptise in the name not names of these three to signifie that these three are one God And that the father is God euery leafe almost of Scripture dothe testifie that the sōne is God many places most manifestlye do beare vvitnes Rom. 1.9 Tit. 2.3 Iuda 2. Mat. 1◠Act. ◠testimonie That the holy ghost is God S. Peter averreth vvho hauing demaunded of Ananias the reason vvhy hee vvould lye vnto the holy ghost auoucheth that he lyed not to mē but to God vvherfore S. Paule sayeth that vvee are the temple of the holy ghost and seing that to God only temples are erected if vvee bee his temple
Fourthly as in these alleaged cōuersions mutatiōs the afore named fathers make recourse vnto Gods omnipotēcie so do they in the mutatiō of this Sacrament prouinge that it vvas possible bicause God is omnipotent Sainct Ambrose sayeth li. de ijs qui initiātur c. 9. hee that of nothing could make something can hee not turne one thing Cipr. ser de Coena Domini into another And sainct Ciprian sayeth that by the omnipotencie of the vvord the bread is made flesh And vvere not these fathers madde to endeuour to explicate by so harde examples hovve God his omnipotencie vvas able to chaunge bread into Christes body and vvine into his bloud if the mutation vvere figuratiue only seing that the vintener vvithout omnipotencie can do the like in making an Iuie-bush of no signe a signe Fistly they admire herin our sauiours great charitie and bountie vvho is so liberall as to feast and feed vs vvith his ovvn flesh and bloud Ho 45. in 10. Vvhat shepheard sayeth saint Chrisostome feedeth his sheep vvith his ovvn blood And vvhat say I Shepheard many mother 's ther are vvhich vvill not bestovv their milke vppon their suckling babes but rather do put them forthe to nourcing but Christe dealeth not so niggardly but rather feedeth vs vvith his ovvn flesh and bloud and mingleth his substaunce vvith ours Novve if Christe hathe giuen vs only a bare signe of his flesh and bloud I see no such extraordinarie loue and charitie at least herin he shevveth no more yea not so much charitie as he shevved to the Ievves to vvhome he gaue manna from heauen in their extremitie vvhich vvas a more noble substaunce and a better figure then Caluins bread is Lastly the fathers note for a straunge thinge that Christe is eaten of vs in the blessed sacrament and yet nether diuided in vita apud Sur. nor diminished nor consumed This sainct Andrevv tolde Aegeas the Proconsul for a great miracle I sayeth he do offer dayly vnto the omnipotent God the Immaculate lambe of vvhom vvhen all the people haue eaten the lambe remaineth vvholle and intiere Ser de Coena Domini Hom 2. de Verb. Apost Sainct Cipriane calles this sacrament inconsumptibilem cibum meat inconsumptible Sainct Austine speaking of this Sacrament and of the murmuration of the Ievves vvho imagined that they should teare Christes flesh vvith their teeth sayeth thus sicreficeris vt non deficiat vnde reficeris so thou art refreshed that it is not deficient of vvhich thou arte refreshed And the reason is bicause Christes body is glorious and is receued vvholle of euery one and so is not deuided and vvhen the formes of bread and vvine perishe Christs body leaueth them and though one man receueth Christes body vvholle yet ther is neuer the lesse for another for hee also receueth it vvholle nether in this is there any greater difficultie then that 5000. Io. 6. men should bee fedd vvith fiue barly loaues tvoe fishes yet the reliques to bee as great or more thē vvas the feast novv if Christe be not really presēt in this Sacramēt but only as in a signe and figure it is no more meruaile that hee is not consumed then that the Kinges picture should bee burnt or broken and he receue no harme and if vvee eate him only spiritually by faithe vvhat vvonder is it that his substaunce is not diuided seing that faithe hathe no teeth to rent or teare him I could adde to these fathers vvho as I haue proued in the first booke ener vvent vvith the Churche Chap. 4. the practise of the Christian vvorld l. 1. de Eucharist c 20. vvhich for reuerence of this Sacrament as Cardinal Allen noteth hathe builded so goodly Churches errected so stately Aultars prepared so ritche vessels of gold and siluer to contein this Sacrament hathe caryed it in Procession and adored it vvhich honour and homage Christians vvould neuer haue giuen it had they thought that it vvere but bread and vvine or a bare signe or figure of Christes body So that if euer there vvere any truthe in the Churche this of the real presence is a truthe bicause the Scriptures are as plain for it as for any other mysteries of our faithe the fathers aggree in the exposition of the scripture for the real presence as they do in the exposition of scriptures against the Arrians for the defence of the Trinitie or against the Nestorians or Eutichians for the Incarnation the practise of the ancient Churche argueth noe lesse miracles vnlesse all bookes euen lately Printed lye vvere allvvayes as frequēt for this mysterie as for any the consent of all Christians conspireth in this article as vvell as in the Trinitie this the paganes knevv full vvel In Apol. c. 5.7 Pamel ibid. Euseb l 5 c. 1 vvho therfore called vs Anthropophagos and Infanticidas as vvitnessethe Tertulian And so if vvee haue any truthe of any article of our faithe this is an assured veritie and if euer ther vvere any heresie Caluins opinion vvhich denyeth this real presence is an heresie bicause the autours of this opinion vvere euer noted for heretikes as Berengarius Vvicleph and others before them and their follovvers had particular names as the Arians haue they vvere condemned by Councels and by that Church vvhich vvas commōly called Christian and they haue all other markes of heretikes set dovvne in the second booke as vvill easilie appeare by application of thē vnto Caluin and his follovvers Vvhen this opinion vvas taught the vvorlde vvondred at it and the Pastours and fathers of the Churche vvrote against it and they alleadged as plain scripture against this heresie as euer they did against Arianisme And so if euer there vvere any heresie in the vvorlde the denial of the real presence is an heresie Conferre novve gentle reader the testimonies vvhich Catholikes haue for the real presence vvith those vvhich the reformers alleage against it and tell mee vvhere is likest to bee the truthe Catholikes haue plainer scripture for it then they haue against it the fathers also vvho are interpretours of scripture stand for it the reformers stand against it Vvhich are to bee beleeued thinkest thou Vvhether all the fathers or all the Reformers yea or euery one of the Reformers bicause they aggree not and euery one vvilbe supreme Iudge by his priuate spirit They vvill say scripture must bee beleeued before ffathers but this is not the question for scripturs are plainer for the real presence then those are vvhich the reformers bring against it And fathers bringe scripturs to proue it as vvel as they do to disproue it so that the question is vvhether the fathers are liker to vnderstand the scripturs rightly rather then the reformers yea rather thē any one of the reformers in particuler But to dravv to my intended conclusion out of all this discourse I gather that vvee haue as plaine scripture for the real presence of Christes body and bloud in the blessed