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A03880 A treatise of the vnvvritten Word of God, commonly called traditions. Written in Latin, by the R. Father Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I. L. of the same Society. The second part of the first controuersy; Controversiarum epitomes. English. Selections Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1614 (1614) STC 13996.A; ESTC S115739 25,730 61

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place_n of_o scripture_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v gather_v be_v falsify_v by_o some_o false_a exposition_n thereof_o or_o because_o the_o proposition_n which_o be_v assume_v and_o adjoin_v to_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n be_v false_a and_o ambiguous_a or_o because_o one_o or_o more_o word_n in_o that_o collection_n be_v use_v doubtful_o that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o one_o sense_n in_o the_o premise_n and_o in_o another_o in_o the_o conclusion_n or_o last_o because_o there_o happen_v some_o error_n to_o be_v in_o the_o collection_n which_o make_v it_o weak_a sophistical_a and_o erroneous_a 11._o beside_o that_o there_o be_v so_o many_o and_o so_o contrary_a illation_n of_o diverse_a man_n that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v altogether_o necessary_a in_o matter_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o may_v arise_v a_o certain_a and_o a_o undoubted_a faith_n of_o these_o matter_n of_o which_o sort_n tradition_n be_v that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 12._o but_o when_o one_o believe_v such_o a_o illation_n with_o a_o divine_a or_o catholic_a faith_n he_o must_v needs_o know_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o be_v that_o the_o express_a place_n of_o scripture_n from_o whence_o this_o conclusion_n be_v deduce_v must_v certain_o be_v well_o understand_v by_o he_o which_o dispute_v the_o other_o be_v that_o he_o who_o make_v such_o a_o deduction_n and_o collection_n can_v neither_o deceive_v other_o not_o be_v deceive_v himself_o but_o none_o can_v know_v either_o of_o these_o without_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n see_v that_o otherwise_o there_o be_v none_o which_o may_v not_o be_v deceive_v sometime_o all_o collection_n therefore_o which_o produce_v or_o breed_v faith_n in_o we_o do_v most_o clear_o convince_v and_o show_v the_o authority_n and_o necessity_n of_o tradition_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v tradition_n by_o the_o absurdity_n which_o otherwise_o will_v follow_v the_o five_o argument_n whereby_o we_o prove_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o holy_a scripture_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o absurdity_n which_o do_v ensue_v of_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n for_o have_v once_o admit_v that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o scripture_n all_o old_a heresy_n be_v renew_v and_o a_o great_a uncertaynty_a and_o confusion_n of_o all_o thing_n be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n yea_o even_o the_o way_n to_o atheism_n be_v lay_v open_a because_o have_v once_o reject_v &_o despise_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n all_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n till_o now_o explicate_v and_o prove_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n against_o heretic_n all_o those_o thing_n also_o which_o be_v decree_v and_o determine_v by_o all_o the_o general_a counsel_n in_o time_n pass_v against_o the_o say_a heretic_n lose_v their_o chief_a strength_n and_o authority_n the_o which_o 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