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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A87434	Le dragon missionaire, or, The dragoon turn'd apostle being a dialaogue between a French Protestant-gentleman, and a French dragoon, wherein the new-way of convverting hereticks by dragoons is very lively and truly represented : to which is annexed a letter of Monsieur Jurieu to a French gentleman of quality, upon his dragonary conversion / translated out of the original French ; suppressed in the the late reign, but now re[pr?]inted ...	Jurieu, Pierre, 1637-1713.	1686 (1686)	Wing J1201; ESTC R43871	21,022	27

needs be instructed tho' I do not see my self to stand in need of it I find you knowing enough in these matters for me to confer with and the Complement you made me at your first entrance makes me suspect you may be some Monk or Jesuit in the Disguise of a Dragon and that to the end you might not fright us Protestants too much who cannot bear the sight of a Monk in his Cowle without believing him a Devil in Masquerade Those good Fathers you know are Omnis homo they become all to all and put themselves into what Figure or Disguise you please the better to act their part in returning to the Bosom of the Holy Mother Church and reuniting to her the Children she had lost Pray tell me frankly Sir Are not you a counterfeit Dragon but a true Jesuit D. Not in the least tho' to tell you the truth I have been worse than a Jesuit G. How so I pray D. I have been for some years a Proponent or Candidate for the Ministry but having found after a diligent Application of my self to the Study of Controversies that both the Proponentisme and Ministry of the Pretended Reformed Religion were but a meer Vanity and prepossession of Spirit and above all a thing very pernicious to the Church whose Peace they disturb with a thousand frivolous Disputes which destroy the very Essence of Religion viz. Piety and Charity In a word having found that Protestantisme had none of the best Principles I turn'd Catholick and became a Souldier supposing that in this station I should prove more useful to my King and Country than in acting a Preacher and bolstering up the people in an Error This makes me still retain a smatch of those things that formerly were my study and employ G. Since it is so we have no need of Monks nor Priests forasmuch as you cannot but know better than they what the things are which pinch Protestants most and is the very Remora of their Conversion D. It is true what you say Sir only I have forgot to dispute in Mood and Figure as a Sorbonist or Father Jesuit might do G. All the better for that these modal Argumentators and men of Syllogisms confound all with their Sophistry Ergoings and Distinctions And indeed for the most part they are no better than meer Pedants and insupportable to all ingenious men D. Be it so However since you put me upon it I will endeavour to prove that you ought to become a Catholick and that with this Syllogisme If your Ancestors did without just ground separate themselves from the Romish Church then it is your duty to return to her again But your Ancestors have without just grounds separated themselves Therefore c. G. I defie the whole Sorbonne and the Gentlemen of Port Royal to argue more exactly I perceive now it will go very hard with me and that I must prepare my self for a very rude Shock who have to deal with a Dragon and a Proponent converted both at once but Patience in answer to your Syllogisme I say that my Ancestors had great reason to separate themselves from Rome forasmuch as they saw they could not be saved in case they continued in her Communion D. We must never separate our selves from the true Church upon any pretext whatsoever for without the Church here is no Salvation And the Church of Rome is this true Church forasmuch as she alone hath been always visible and the most extended and comprehensive of all others Now it is apparent that the true Church must needs be the most visible and most extended of all others that are called Christian. G. I don't see but that the Greek Church is every whit as comprehensive as the Romish Church and hath in all times-been as visible as it But where have you learnt that the true Church must always be visible and most comprehensive D. Of St. Augustin where he Disputes against the Donatists G. Don't you know that St. Augustin was a man as you and I subject to Error and that he himself elsewhere exhorteth us to give heed to no other Authority besides that of the Divine Scriptures And you who are so ready to jump with him in this Point would you be as willing to believe with him That Infants dying without Baptism and without the Communion of the Body and Blood of Christ are damned as much as the Devils themselves and Reprobates D. No surely but however it must be granted that without the Church there is no Salvation and consequently the same must needs be always visible that men in all times may enter into Communion with it and so be saved G. The Scripture no where saith so It is without Jesus Christ that there is no Salvation And as for the Church true it is That we are to enter into Communion with it but that is when we can see and find it and all those whom the true Church doth cast out of her Communion upon just grounds are in a state of damnation D. What Sir Will you suppose then that the Church of God can perish and cease upon Earth G. By no means for Jesus Christ will always have his faithful Ones to the end of the World yet that hinders not but they may be oft hid from the Eyes of men and unknown to them D. How is it possible then that men in all times should be saved G. By means of the Gospel which the Divine Providence will take care shall be preserved upon Earth till the end of the World and by the owning of those Christian Truths in which all Christians do agree D. You are very subtile but in the mean time you cannot deny but that your Church and Religion are but of Yesterday since they were never heard of in the World before Luther and Calvin G. Pray be pleased to look upon this Book open it and read it D. Why This is the New Testament G. And there Sir you have the Authors of my Church and of my Religion I hold it from Jesus Christ and his Apostles and from their first Successors D. That cannot be Sir for your Ministers came not that way they are without Succession or any lawful Call and they have either made themselves Pastors or have been Ordained by the People G. Not so for the grearest part of them came from the Church of Rome and so preserv'd the Call they received there and the rest were confirmed and approved by them In a word we find that Jesus Christ hath committed to Believers the Authority of the Ministerial Function But you Mr. Dragon who are so sharp upon others from whence pray do you come And from whence do you derive your Mission D. From Father la Chaise and from Monsieur Maimbourg formerly a Jesuit and from the whole Body of the Clergy G. But Sir the persons you name are no Dragons and a Dragon must descend in a right Line from another Dragon as amongst you a Priest derives his Authority