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A47591 Light broke forth in Wales, expelling darkness, or, The Englishman's love to the antient Britains [sic] being an answer to a book, iutituled [sic] Children's baptism from Heaven, published in the Welsh tongue by Mr. James Owen / by Benjamin Keach. Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1696 (1696) Wing K75; ESTC R32436 280,965 390

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gospel_n 〈◊〉_d ●…es_n only_o run_v to_o believer_n and_o to_o their_o child_n 〈…〉_z or_o who_o do_v believe_v whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n 〈…〉_z and_o to_o no_o more_o unde●_n 〈…〉_z mr._n owen_n the_o extent_n of_o god_n cove●…●…ople_n his_o covenant_n be_v with_o they_o and_o their_o 〈…〉_z be_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n which_o god_n make_v 〈…〉_z gen._n 3._o 15._o and_o 4._o 25._o and_o the_o covenant_n 〈…〉_z ●ade_v with_o noah_n gen._n 9_o 9_o with_o abraham_n gen._n 17._o 7._o 〈◊〉_d isaac_n gen._n 28._o 4._o and_o with_o jacob_n gen._n 35._o 12._o and_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n be_v his_o covenant_n with_o david_n and_o his_o seed_n 2_o sam._n 7._o 12._o and_o 22._o 51._o in_o this_o eternal_a covenant_n he_o rejoice_v on_o his_o deathbed_n 2_o sam._n 23._o 5
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