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A39566 Christianismus redivivus Christndom both un-christ'ned and new-christ'ned, or, that good old way of dipping and in-churching of men and women after faith and repentance professed, commonly (but not properly) called Anabaptism, vindicated ... : in five or six several systems containing a general answer ... : not onely a publick disputation for infant baptism managed by many ministers before thousands of people against this author ... : but also Mr. Baxters Scripture proofs are proved Scriptureless ... / by Samuel Fisher ... Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1655 (1655) Wing F1049; ESTC R40901 968,208 646

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quando_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la etiam_fw-la id_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la similitudo_fw-la fit_a perspicuum_fw-la et_fw-la quidem_fw-la magis_fw-la quam_fw-la sine_fw-la similitudine_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la vera_fw-la similitudo_fw-la non_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la nisi_fw-la analogia_fw-la similitudinis_fw-la intellegatur_fw-la ita_fw-la nec_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nisi_fw-la analogia_fw-la signorum_fw-la et_fw-la rerum_fw-la intellegatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la sensu_fw-la apologia_fw-la augustanae_n confessionis_fw-la aliquoties_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la vocat_fw-la picturas_fw-la picturas_fw-la see_v legh_a crit_fw-fr sac_fw-la p._n 76.77_o where_o he_o over_o and_o over_o again_o confess_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o dip_v plunge_n under_o water_n etc._n etc._n primary_o and_o proper_o p._n 76._o it_o signify_v primary_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o wash_v as_o be_v use_v in_o buck_n where_o linen_n be_v plunge_v or_o dip_v beza_n neque_fw-la vero_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d significat_fw-la lavare_fw-la nisi_fw-la a_o consequenti_fw-la nam_fw-la proprie_fw-la declarat_fw-la tingendi_fw-la causa_fw-la mergere_fw-la also_o p._n 77._o the_o native_a &_o proper_a signification_n of_o it_o be_v to_o dip_v into_o water_n or_o plunge_v under_o water_n joh_n 3.22_o 23._o mat._n 3.16_o tanquam_fw-la ad_fw-la tingendum_fw-la mergo_fw-la causab_n immergo_fw-la intingo_fw-la abluo_fw-la bucan_n mergo_fw-la et_fw-la tingo_fw-la bullinger_n proprie_fw-la significat_fw-la immergo_fw-la submergo_fw-la obruo_fw-la aquâ_fw-la zanchius_n videtur_fw-la copiam_fw-la abundantiam_fw-la perfectam_fw-la quandam_fw-la perfusionem_fw-la denotare_fw-la are●_n are●_n witness_v these_o word_n receive_v in_o a_o late_a letter_n from_o two_o gentleman_n of_o chichester_n viz._n sir_n the_o occasion_n of_o these_o line_n be_v the_o result_n of_o a_o late_a conference_n viz._n to_o desire_v your_o ground_n &_o argument_n in_o wriing_a for_o the_o continuance_n of_o water-baptism_n &_o 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