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four_o book_n and_o 11_o chapter_n again_o the_o body_n be_v a_o accurate_a structure_n admire_v the_o artist_n the_o builder_n and_o what_o will_v thou_o admire_v what_o part_n what_o member_n will_v thou_o commend_v the_o breast_n all_o thy_o rhetoric_n be_v not_o enough_o for_o the_o belly_n will_v thou_o commend_v the_o belly_n thou_o have_v not_o praise_n enough_o for_o the_o head_n what_o the_o ear_n o_o glorious_a eye_n i_o shall_v admire_v the_o artery_n that_o come_v from_o the_o heart_n but_o the_o nerve_n draw_v i_o back_o which_o come_v from_o the_o brain_n i_o shall_v praise_v the_o nerve_n but_o i_o be_o astonish_v at_o the_o vein_n which_o flow_v from_o the_o liver_n what_o shall_v i_o
to_o god_n that_o give_v it_o this_o scripture_n be_v very_o potent_a with_o augustine_n as_o he_o confess_v in_o his_o ten_o book_n de_fw-fr genesi_fw-la ad_fw-la literam_fw-la and_o the_o nine_o chapter_n but_o after_o some_o doubt_v he_o incline_v to_o the_o exposition_n of_o it_o touch_v the_o foul_a of_o adam_n although_o the_o preacher_n seem_v to_o speak_v it_o in_o commani_fw-la and_o if_o you_o say_v that_o god_n give_v the_o spirit_n by_o our_o parent_n so_o he_o do_v the_o body_n why_o then_o do_v he_o speak_v particular_o and_o only_o of_o the_o spirit_n that_o he_o give_v that_o the_o last_o authority_n which_o we_o will_v use_v out_o of_o scripture_n be_v heb._n twelve_o 9_o furthermore_o we_o have_v have_v father_n of_o our_o flesh_n which_o correct_v we_o and_o we_o give_v they_o reverence_n shall_v we_o not_o much_o rather_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o father_n of_o spirit_n and_o live_v here_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contradistinction_n betwixt_o father_n of_o our_o flesh_n and_o father_n of_o our_o spirit_n father_n of_o our_o flesh_n subefficient_o unto_o god_n father_n of_o our_o spirit_n absolute_o immediate_o and_o father_n of_o our_o spirit_n must_v be_v understand_v in_o respect_n of_o production_n not_o regeneration_n that_o the_o opposition_n may_v be_v strict_o ad_fw-la idem_fw-la if_o as_o before_o you_o say_v that_o he_o be_v father_n of_o our_o spirit_n by_o our_o parent_n so_o he_o be_v also_o of_o our_o flesh_n as_o before_o memorabilis_fw-la locus_fw-la ad_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la as_o paraeus_n break_v out_o upon_o this_o place_n this_o be_v a_o pertinent_a text_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o augustine_n and_o hierome_n concern_v the_o beginning_n and_o efficiency_n of_o the_o soul_n hierome_n can_v not_o produce_v a_o more_o pregnant_a testimony_n for_o the_o determine_n of_o augustine_n unto_o his_o tenet_n now_o to_o these_o divine_a testimony_n we_o may_v add_v a_o argument_n or_o two_o draw_v out_o of_o sacred_a writ_n zanchie_a argue_v from_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o creation_n of_o adam_n soul_n &_o of_o christ_n the_o like_a in_o all_o other_o but_o we_o will_v pass_v unto_o the_o second_o head_n of_o our_o confirmation_n that_o the_o creation_n of_o soul_n be_v more_o consonant_n unto_o ecclesiastic_a writer_n father_n the_o consent_n of_o these_o have_v always_o be_v account_v a_o move_a argument_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o in_o his_o rhetoric_n it_o be_v not_o ingenuous_a to_o determine_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o god_n to_o a_o father_n to_o a_o master_n doctor_n father_n then_o must_v have_v in_o they_o some_o persuasive_a virtue_n towards_o assent_n unto_o their_o judgement_n zanchie_a therefore_o cit_v hierome_n gregory_n nyssen_n theodoret_n leo._n and_o hieromesaith_n as_o before_o that_o it_o be_v the_o general_a opinion_n of_o the_o church_n in_o his_o time_n that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o soul_n by_o creation_n indeed_o we_o want_v herein_o the_o suffrage_n of_o tertullian_n and_o augustine_n tertullian_n say_v plain_o that_o the_o soul_n be_v corporeal_a we_o have_v it_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la in_o terminis_fw-la terminant_fw-la ibus_fw-la nos_fw-la autem_fw-la animam_fw-la corporalem_fw-la &_o hîc_fw-la profitemur_fw-la &_o in_o svo_fw-la volumine_fw-la probamus_fw-la and_o he_o give_v we_o his_o reason_n because_o of_o the_o soul_n suffer_v of_o torment_n make_v account_n that_o the_o soul_n unless_o it_o be_v corporeal_a can_v suffer_v angustine_n in_o his_o ten_o de_fw-fr genesi_fw-la ad_fw-la literam_fw-la go_v about_o at_o first_o to_o excuse_v this_o expression_n of_o the_o father_n in_o say_v that_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o speech_n be_v because_o he_o can_v not_o otherwise_o concieve_v it_o to_o be_v then_o in_o a_o corporeal_a notion_n neither_o can_v be_v otherwise_o conceive_v of_o god_n as_o rhenanus_fw-la in_o favour_n of_o he_o timuit_fw-la nè_fw-la deus_fw-la nihil_fw-la esset_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la esset_fw-la corpus_fw-la he_o be_v afraid_a lest_o god_n shall_v not_o be_v or_o shall_v be_v nothing_o if_o not_o a_o body_n yet_o augustine_n soon_o after_o his_o excuse_n of_o the_o father_n understand_v he_o otherwise_o in_o his_o term_n of_o corpus_n even_o by_o his_o own_o word_n because_o he_o say_v omnecorporale_fw-la est_fw-la passibile_fw-la as_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o corporale_n not_o only_o a_o real_a substance_n but_o a_o substance_n material_a debuit_fw-la ergò_fw-la mutare_fw-la sententiam_fw-la say_v the_o father_n because_o hereby_o he_o make_v god_n passable_a so_o that_o augustine_n hold_v not_o with_o tertullian_n that_o the_o soul_n be_v corporeal_a yet_o he_o doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v create_v and_o his_o reason_n be_v because_o if_o it_o be_v create_v by_o god_n he_o can_v see_v how_o original_a sin_n shall_v be_v convey_v unto_o it_o which_o he_o know_v so_o well_o and_o defend_v so_o stout_o against_o pelagius_n to_o conclude_v therefore_o if_o we_o can_v determine_v three_o conclusion_n in_o reference_n unto_o these_o two_o father_n we_o may_v obtain_v their_o voice_n also_o first_o in_o reference_n unto_o tertullian_n that_o the_o soul_n although_o not_o corporeal_a yet_o be_v passable_a and_o sensible_a of_o grief_n so_o christ_n say_v of_o his_o own_o soul_n my_o soul_n be_v heavy_a unto_o death_n and_o that_o christ_n soul_n be_v immaterial_a who_o can_v deny_v especial_o since_o he_o be_v not_o bear_v in_o the_o common_a way_n second_o in_o reference_n unto_o s._n augustine_n that_o although_o the_o soul_n be_v create_v yet_o there_o be_v a_o way_n conceivable_a for_o the_o intromission_n of_o original_a sin_n without_o any_o danger_n of_o make_v god_n any_o way_n the_o author_n of_o sin_n this_o zanchie_a make_v good_a three_o in_o reference_n unto_o they_o both_o that_o a_o probable_a truth_n be_v not_o to_o be_v discard_v for_o some_o particular_a inconvenience_n which_o in_o our_o apprehension_n may_v seem_v to_o arise_v out_o of_o the_o position_n of_o it_o and_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la that_o saint_n hierome_n win_v s._n augustine_n unto_o his_o side_n in_o this_o point_n paraeus_n and_o zanchie_a be_v my_o author_n nay_o lombard_n and_o biel_n do_v cite_v augustine_n in_o the_o three_o and_o twenty_o chapter_n of_o the_o question_n ex_fw-la veteri_fw-la testamento_fw-la for_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o soul_n inhonestum_fw-la puto_fw-la si_fw-la animae_fw-la dicantur_fw-la cum_fw-la corporibus_fw-la generari_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la nascatur_fw-la de_fw-la anima_fw-la and_o biel_n to_o this_o purpose_n cit_v augustine_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticis_fw-la dogmatibus_fw-la non_fw-la seminantur_fw-la animae_fw-la cum_fw-la corporibus_fw-la but_o to_o deal_v ingenuous_o with_o my_o audience_n the_o former_a book_n of_o the_o question_n ex_fw-la veteri_fw-la testamento_fw-la be_v none_o of_o s._n augustine_n as_o bellarmine_n and_o erasmus_n and_o other_o do_v hold_v and_o again_o the_o treatise_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticis_fw-la dogmatibus_fw-la be_v suppose_v to_o have_v be_v make_v by_o gennadius_n that_o the_o former_a be_v not_o the_o father_n own_o be_v more_o than_o likely_a beside_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o before_o name_v because_o in_o it_o he_o cit_v augustine_n whosoever_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o nevertheless_o deduct_v the_o suffrage_n of_o these_o two_o father_n the_o great_a part_n as_o zanchie_a account_v be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o soul_n be_v create_v our_o thesis_n then_o appear_v to_o be_v more_o consonant_n unto_o the_o father_n to_o more_o of_o they_o and_o to_o the_o rest_n also_o happy_o it_o be_v more_o agreeable_a than_o the_o contrary_a assertion_n and_o also_o those_o two_o father_n do_v show_v more_o dislike_n unto_o this_o tenet_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o consequent_n then_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o simple_a consideration_n of_o it_o in_o itself_o the_o three_o trial_n of_o the_o 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why_o seed_n and_o indeed_o how_o seed_n of_o the_o soul_n whether_o corruptible_a or_o