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A40706 A dialogue betwixt Philautus and Timotheus in defence of Dr. Fullwood's Legas AngliƦ against the vindicator of Naked truth, stiling himself Phil. Hickeringill. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1681 (1681) Wing F2499; ESTC R7930 24,716 36

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A DIALOGUE BETWIXT PHILAUTUS AND TIMOTHEUS In Defence of Dr FVLLWOOD's LEGES ANGLIAE Against the Vindicator of Naked Truth Stiling himself PHIL. HICKERINGILL LONDON Printed for Rich. Royston Bookseller to His most Sacred MAJESTY 1681. TIMOTHEVS and PHILAVTVS CHAP. I. Of the Author's Name Phil. Hickeringill TImotheus Well met Philautus Philautus Why Philautus Tim. I know you call your self Phil. Hickeringill but that Dutoh-Hobgoblin name is so rugged and harsh in the mouth and so unsutable to the smoothness of your Vindication of Naked Truth that neither my self nor a Thousand others can endure it at the first time they heard it it brought a Curse with it and they wish they had never heard it since and are frightned at the very sound of it as if it were conjuring Indeed Hickeringill speaks ill and hears worse therefore as you have faced about and chang'd your countenance as to Religion or against it I thought it not amiss to change your name too Phil. How now Tim hast an itchy endeavour to be witty forsooth in Vindic. p. 35. spite of Nature and thy Stars enough of Hickeringill but why must Phil. be added to autus why Philautus thou thinkst thou hast a trick for that too Tim. To deal plainly with thee every body perceives that this Phil. Hickeringill is the same Person that lies prostrate under the name of Edmond at the foot of Naked Truth and it is known that Phil. and Edmond are all one that is Ned loves Hickeringill and Hickeringill is in love with himself and for this Reason I have made bold for the better sounds sake to call thee Philautus But prethee Phil. why art thou pleased with that throatling name Phil. Hickeringill is it not for the same reason good wits may jump Phil. Say nothing Tim and I will tell thee the naked truth and whether I thought of thy reason or not I am resolved upon good reason to love my self for I see little in the world that a Man should be fond of and but few that regard me as I deserve or merit my kindness Nor can I expect otherwise Plain dealing has few friends and that 's my Talent besides I have flown at all sorts of People Fift-Monarchists p. 35. Anabaptists Quakers Independents Presbyterians Papists and I trow in a very civil manner at our own Church-men too and thus have provoked them all against me and is it not time to take care of my self I had once some hopes of favour from the Church of England but now I despair for I saw little was to be got by her kindness and occurr'd her displeasure to speak the truth she hath always been a Step-Mother Vind p. 2. to the Author of the Naked Truth and he never had any thing from her but frowns and blows at best but a Bitt and a Knock and now alas she is in the Wane and not worth the courting I found her lately in the Frontispiece of a Book called Leges Angliae a pretended answer to Naked Truth pictured in a very low and weeping posture groaning under the Cross and I hate her in her very picture but seeing it is so sad with her I will pity and love my self therefore call me what thou wilt I am Phil. Hickeringill and will be so in spight of the World and the Church too CHAP. II. Of the Title Leges Angliae one Fullwood a libelling Pamphlet Tim. THou mentionest a Book called Leges Angliae prethee what 's thy opinion of it Phil. That Book I have not patience to speak of it it so scandalously handles my beloved Naked Truth it proves it to be all lies and then cloaths it with Bears-skins and all shapes of Villany and then exposeth it and hectors and beats and kills it and all that under the detestable name of my chief old enemy the Laws of England Many years agon these Laws of England had like to have done me a mischief and I could never endure the name of them since especially when the wind blows West-ward and I wonder at my heart how these Laws can give warrant to others in a Hectoring way to say ●ind p. 6. Come Clergyman deliver your Purse your Purse But with what Title his pitiful Pamphlet can challenge so swelling a Title shall be considered only by the sequel 〈…〉 2. Tim. Good Phil. why so angry the Title did thee a kindness Some think had it not been for this Title and a small Jest thou hadst had little to say to the whole Book and it seems to be true too because thou so often makest mention and makest so much advantage of them But to speak my mind a serious Book that consists chiefly of our Laws and Vindicates a legal Government by Arguments of express Laws may wear this Title of Leges Angliae modestly enough though I must tell thee I am well assured that that Title was put to the Book by another hand and not by the Authors who knew it not certainly till he saw it in Print He hath often said he did not like it because he had twit Mr. Cary for stiling his lesser Book The Law of England though that seems to be a greater Title But good Phil. why must thy Vindication carry so much folly and rage in the front of it Scornfully calling thy Adversary one Fullwood though he tells the world both his Name and his Title and Dignity If he be a Doctor in Divinity and a Dignitary in the Church or but an aged Spectacle-Divine thou shouldest have used him with less disdain if not with reverence Some think he honoured thee too much in condescending to take notice of and answer thy Book and dishonour'd himself Phil. Why did he not let Naked Truth alone then why did he write so libelling a Pamphlet against it Tim. I know thou hast betray'd thy wit as well as manners in calling a serious Book touching lawful government written by an Ancient D. D. a libelling Pamphlet But Phil. if he write that which is true and set his name to it how is his Book a Libel That thou against whom his Book is written wer 't guilty enough was evident because thou fled'st for it not daring to put thy name at first to thy Naked Truth as the Doctor doth to his Book I say thou didst thus fly for it and that out of a sense of guilt or great fear Fear what the men or the Leges Angliae thou hadst offended by thy Naked Truth would do with thee should they find thee out as thou often confessest in that Book Indeed when thou hadst got thy Friends about thee I mean the Rabble that like not the Laws of England and as thou thought'st secured thy self among thy Abettors then thou appearest and shewest thy self though sneakingly at the Tail of thy Book Seeing thy self then in the face of those moveable waters thou seemest to fall in love with and pride thy self as the Author of a Book so highly esteemed by the weak
and disturbed Populacy and had I not given thee a name before thou mightest well be called after thy great Grandfather Narcissus Phil. Methinks thy way of concluding things with Verses is marvellous edifying Let me mind thee of what a Noble Pen hath noted to purpose The people's love with evil Acts is won And either lost or kept as it begun What wind then blows poor Man into this Sea But pride of heart and Singularity CHAP. III. A Taste of Phil's Rhetorick and good Manners TIM So much for thy Title Page Casting my eye into thy Book I find it strew'd all over with such fair flowers bestow'd both on the Author and his Leges Angliae that I am tempted to pick them up and dress thy self and thy Vindication with them As for the Author thou wilt not return him Railing for Railing as thou assurest him pag. 21. those wonted attacks of effeminate and doting old men but thou observest that he is an incomparable finder and quick-sighted Commentator for a man of his age that cannot see without Spectacles and that old men can prate and scould and so does he Thou stilest him Dull fool Cursing railer Prelatical champion despicable opponent fibling quibling fribling fumbling scribling Archdeacon Greedy-gut gormandizing unthinking Black-coat stockt with a little superficial learning Impertinent D. D. that has not his fellow amongst them all for insolence and impudence c. Thus thou adornest the Author and his Book thou hast so habited that it looks just like the Author for it is the insolent and the empty windy vapours of a huffing Man trifling entertainment thin futile and Cobweb contextures and composures insufferable and vain-glorious petulancy unparalell'd shallowness of expression extravagances impertinences nauseous repetitions crazy principles a great deal of prattle to no purpose c. But to be serious Phil. is this thy way of answering Books Shouldest thou not in all justice and Conscience instance something either in the Author or his Book that deserves at least in thy own singular opinion if in no bodies else such scoundrel Billings-gate Ribaldry which turns the stomach of all modest Readers I must tell thee Phil. what sober men conclude upon it Thy despising the Author and his Book without Evidence will provoke him and thy Reader to despise thee and that not without cause both Logical and Moral For 't is observed that when passion begins to bluster thus 't is an argument that there is both need and want of Reason And that where the breath stinks so abominably the bowels are rotten there is rottenness within for out of the abundant superfluity of naughtiness in the heart the mouth utters such pestilent steams And thus thou hast shewn thy self in the judgment of all wise and good men both a bad Advocate and an ill man This seems to lye heavy upon thee and how thou canst shake it off I know not Phil. Tim. art thou Mr. Dullman too let me indoctrinate thee a little better Know then that the kind of Cattle that stare at and prick up their ears to hear Hickeringill are prepared to embrace any thing that I call Naked Truth and is thrown out bravely and boldly against Church-men especially their Courts My business is not to satisfie Reason where there is none to deal with but to keep up and cherish prejudice to foment and inflame passion and Faction and thus to carry on the grateful interest of the brutish Populacy and we must have Engines suitable to the work we are about and what are they but to despise dominion and to speak evil of dignities and to throw dirt with both hands at all that are Advocates for Government When a man is honoured as the Head of the Herd thus engaged and led on the enemies Reason shall never hit us nor our Rage and Railing ever miss them and the Intrigue goes on Thou wilt find anon that I grant his Arguments cannot be answered therefore that 's a work not to be undertaken in earnest though here also I set up my colours and entertain some slight skirmishes but while I hector and rant and call Names with impudence enough thou think'st the people will find sufficient reason to cry victoria Say no more Tim. I know it by experience Tim. Phil. so wise and ingenuous discourse shall be crown'd with a Verse Thus we discern what courses they must hold That make this Humour of Applause their end They have no true and so no constant mold Light change is both their enemy and friend Herostratus shall prove Vice governs fame Who built that Church he burnt hath lost his Name Tim. But Phil. I am not at all satisfied why you should fall upon the Doctor without Book You do not find he serves you so perhaps he reflects severely enough yet he keeps within the compass of your writing you can have no reason to provoke to search too narrowly into what you have been Phil. What dost mean Tim. I mean to blame you for calling him Paedagogue you say in his Juvenile years when he was as indeed he was a furious chastizing Pedagogue and with no little scorn you add another whipping Tom he took pleasure to lash and slash p. 2. What Confidence is this thus to overlash beyond your Knowledge and contrary to known truth the Doctor was never either a Paedagogue or Paedagogues Son yet you say Indeed he was so but perhaps you imagined this from his lashes they fell so heavy from an old man Phil. I confess the smart made me a little outragious I mean that which I felt from the back-blows in his Epistle for the Clubb-knocks of his Arguments I could have born them and said nothing but Mum however thou shouldst not have made the Observation CHAP. IV. Phil's fondness or kindness to himself and flattery Tim. BUT Phil I must observe that thou art rude with the Doctor thou art over-kind to thy self even to flattery and gross dawbing usque ad nauseam Doth not that sound sweetly out of thy own mouth that above all others thou hast disarmed the Fanaticks c. p. 2. Again with great self-denial it cost me not seven days I protest to answer the six Months abortive throws of c. p. 36. 'T is miraculous thou couldst dispatch such a nothing in so short a time Again how kindly dost thou aspire when thou breathest out If I were Lord Chancellour Again 't is meekly said what has already speaking of thy naked truth got a verdict all England over except such c. Lastly not to glut the Reader with such luscious fair that incomparable tang of thy humility whereby thou intimatest that the Doctor 's end in his answer was to be taken notice of for daring to grapple with the naked truth thus purchasing a name and a fame c. But prethee Phil. what measures dost thou use certainly such as others are strangers to nor is it possible thou should'st satisfie thy self for this silly vaunt Let me whisper in
thine ear wiser and better and greater Men than thy self expressed their trouble to the Doctor when they heard he was about to reflect upon thy scandalous Book for so they called it that he should condescend so far as to honour it with an Answer and feared that thou wouldst value thy self those were the words upon thy being taken so much notice of by a Dignitary of the Church of England which indeed had almost prevented the Print But at length Phil. thou art a Gentleman and will have the world know thou hast 200 l. per An. Land of Inheritance Well Phil be it so but we must take thy word for both seeing thou livest by ill neighbours We have thy Picture drawn to the life by a Modern Dawber no primitive Painter in all thy Books but it is well that Gentleman is written by otherwise a Man would swear 't were the Picture of a Cock or Bull rather than a Gentleman a Cock for his Crowing or a Bull for his Rage CHAP. V. A Specimen of his Wit Doctor 's Expressions vindicated Phil. WHat 's the matter Tim. art quite lost and turn'd Enemy Tim. I had almost done with thee but thy wonderful Witticisms which I lately discovered have pretty well reconciled me and made me amends for all together How smoothly runs that viz. a Protestant Head must have a Protestant Face how Ingenuous that the Proem takes up too much room in another character least the best of Puns should escape unobserved which without the cost of a costive Anagram more than pays the Doctor for his Hobby Warr-Hawks but there 's no end of this Topick every Line has its Salt and therefore passing all the rest I shall crown my observation with a little further notice of that Anagram we hinted at which crowns thy wit at the end of thy Book 't is this Fra. Fullwood war dul-fool Now Phil. let 's be serious a-while and war-dull-fool indeed is his name as much too hard for thy wit as his Arguments for thy Reason what makes thee deal so barbarously with it O Phil. thy wit is cruel and short for War-dull fool can reach but to Fra. Vlwood and short and cruel what cut off the lower half of his Christian name and the Head of his Sirname I now find thy knack at capping of Verses and uncapping of Names and am not much concern'd tho' his Name thus suffers seeing his reputation is above thy reach Phil. Would any Man alive beside thee have been such a fool in print and without shame have boasted of this subtle Sylly Anagram as thou callest it thy self such folly calls for the fury of a chastizing Paedagogue and whipping Tom indeed Phil. What because it is not true to a letter the troth is Tim for a phansie or a humour we Wits regard neither truth nor sense nor good manners But now I am provoked I 'le expose two such instances of the Doctor 's wit that are strangers enough to sence and as much as any of mine 1. What dost think of his rock of Sand upon which he supposeth me to triumph I never heard of a Rock of Sand before Tim. It may be so Phil. but I think the expression is at least pardonable but thy Reading in Philosophy is hardly so hast forgot or didst never hear of that question about the generation of Stones and Rocks But cease thy wonder he never intended a natural real and firm Rock for he knew well enough that thou hadst none such to stand upon but he meant such as thou hadst and such as thy matter depended upon a fictitious false counterfeit rock and such a one may easily be made of Sand mix'd with the slime and dirt which so much defiles Naked Truth Phil. But thou canst never bring him off for his other extravagancy for lying envy malice c. he saith I am a very Angel of light Tim. What Phil. fail in thy Rhetorick too hast forgotten the figure that warrants such manners of expression I wonder what thou wouldst be called for such kind of virtues as lying c. or any of thy other excellencies An Angel of Darkness and Confusion the Prince of the Air the Accuser of the Brethren or a Devil-incarnate And in this Sphear this Wilderness of Evils None prosper highly but the perfect Devils CHAP. VI. A previous attempt of Mr. Phil's Judgment and Logick SECT I. Tim. THough thou approachest towards the main battle timidè and with deal of modesty even to despair yet I observe thou makest some on-sets that give tokens of some braveness in thee I acknowledge thou art strangely qualified with stoutness of body resoluteness of mind invincible passions haughtiness of expression accurateness in History and Law especially against the Church and Ecclesiastical Courts all managed with a singular stream of wit and fancy as I lately noted Yet to deal plainly with thee Phil. there is a small gift or two that seem not to be altogether so compleat in thee I mean that clearness of mind and foundness of wisdom and that dexterous faculty of reasoning that should crown a disput an t of thy strange adventure Phil. How man why that 's my glory and in the knack of arguing I challenge the world But if it should be with me as thou saist yet thou maist perceive I am even with this Archdeacon for he lai'th out his whole strength in a little point which I denied and indeed argued against with all my might and skill in Law and Story Namely the Lawfulness of Ecclesiastical Government and seems to neglect those Weightier things of Pag. ● Procurations Synodals Fees of Courts c. and is not that as ill in him as for me to shew my manhood in those noble points of resolution passion fancy story and expression though I should be found less and less concerned in the inconsiderable points of wisdom and reason However Tim. I know no Nakedness in my discourse but the Naked Truth If thou dost shew it Tim. This Nakedness appears in the whole body of thy Book not to prevent that discovery I shall here only instance in two of thy attempts 1. The Doctor had said our Laws exclude the purely Spiritual power of the keys from the Supremacy of our Kings except it be to see that Spiritual men do their duty therein Here upon I am ashamed to see how thou triumphs before the Victory and how pury like how poorly and fallaciously thou attack'st him First Thou say'st K. Hen. 3. preacht in Pulpit ergo c. Secondly Emperors called Councils and approved their Canons Ergo Thirdly Our Kings are ordained Priests as Baker relates therefore thou strongly concludest they have the power of the Keys but the conclusion should have been that they have the purely Spiritual power of the Keys doest not perceive it Phil. Our Laws do say that the King is mixta persona cum sacerdote and all those ensigns at his Coronation import as much but in which of them is
be not to swear against themselves Phil. Nor one word doth he write to vindicate their unjust and unconscionable Impositions and Extortions upon the Clergie in Procurations Synodals Institutions c. Tim. Now thou art in thy Element but thy memory is unfaithful Not one word Phil about Procurations and Synodals the main thing wherein the Arch-deacon is concern'd in the charge Indeed he saith nothing in defence of unjust and unconscionable impositions and extortions but he said enough to prove to any reasonable man the lawfulness of taking the usual Sum for Procurations and Synodals which have been ever paid so far as our Books can discover But this charge is at the end of thy Book and it seems thou hadst forgot what thou saidst at the beginning of it there thou saist that he produceth not one Reason or Argument except the Statute of Hen. 8. for Synodals and Proxies to be granted from dissolved Monasteries c. And Phil the Argument from Dissolved Monasteries to the ordinary Clergy is potent à fortiori the Reason in the Statute is the same for both the Bishop c. pays First-fruits and Tenths as well for his Procurations and Synodals received from the Clergy as from the dissolved Monasteries and the argument stronger because the Clergie are visited the Monasteries are not and you know Procurations are due ratione visitationis But Phil. I ought to have an account why thou saist the Doctor gives not one reason or argument for Procurations and Synodals besides the Statute thus thou leapest like a Squirril from one twigg to another till thou fallest to the ground first not one word next not one Reason except the Statute both alike honest and true doth not he tell thee plainly and in more words that Procurations and Synodals are due by ancient Composition upon a valuable Consideration and by undoubted long Possession and Custom which is Law in England Sit liber Judex Leg. An. p. 64. And in a word if any other fees are taken or exacted from the Clergy or others that are not warrantable by Law or Custom take thy remedy the Law is open CHAP. XV. CONCLUSION Phil. an Advocate for the Courts his Reasons on their behalf from the value of money abuses in civil Court Peace his Declaration Tim. WELL Phil. I find at last thou hast painted thy self too fierce for thy Nature I find some bias upon thy reason inclining thee well and it 's pity but ye should be friends for 1. Thou notest the value of money is so different from what it was in Hen. 8. 's time when a Harry groat would have bought as much Victuals as half a Crown now that they cannot afford to keep Clarks nor to write and to Register Wills at this day for the Legal Fees 2. Again thou observest and that in favour of Ecclesiastical Courts that other Courts are more abusive and excessive in fees I leave thee to make it good and 't was very kindly remarked on our side tho' severely enough against the Common-Law Courts according to thy manner of speaking thus Indeed the Extortions of the Spiritual Courts are inconsiderable in Comparison of those amongst the numerous Frie of Common-Lawyers Attornies Clarks Notaries Sollicitors Splitters of Causes c. whose numbers are numberless and so goes on with the Crie p. 30 31. 3. At length thou seem'st to have studied better politicks than thou hast lately practis'd for in the nature of a Conclusion thou saist Therefore men that trie will certainly find perhaps too late that seldom 〈◊〉 31. comes a better This is very friendly indeed Phil. a little more of this Nature might render thee worthy of an Advocates place in the Spiritual Courts and then thou might'st go snips too hadst thou writ Finis here But I find thou canst not end without one fling more at the Doctor Phil. Thou seest I can speak to thy sense and indeed I could say much more to please thee and the Doctor and the Bishops too had I encouragement as I think I deserve and this I had done before now if the Lady at the beginning of the Doctor 's Book had made me a Curtesie or thank't me for my pains upon Curse ye curse ye MEROZ but no such matter Tim. too much Ingratitude and envy raigns amongst a sort of unthinking Black-coats Tim. No such matter Phil. the Black-coats did think and thought that thy Text was well interpreted and justly turn'd against the Enemies of the Church of England but they thought also that thou playedst too wantonly with a serious subject in an angry Age and indeed thou actedst the part of a Mountebank rather than a grave Preacher Well but what 's this to the Doctor how shall he be satisfied Phil. He was severe with me and I was rude with him and there 's an end Tim. Rude Yea barbarous and prodigiously scurrilous and I should wonder if thou seest not a necessity of giving both thy self and the Doctor and the Church of England better satisfaction I have known many that when they have taken up thy Vindication and with a cast of their eye have perceived the mode of thy Scribble have with disdain and loathing cast it from them and to deal friendly with thee I think thou ought'st to do something to recover thy self with the world Phil. I am sorry to hear that prethee what would'st have me do Tim. Thou hast heard of an Engine call'd Pia fraus but Phil. if thou hast not the skill to joyn Piety and Craft together either of them well used may do thee a kindness My first advice and my best is this that thou would'st be meek and humble and give the world a Cast of thy Piety in an honest retractation and ingenuous peccavi But secondly if repentance be too hard a Task or thy Talent lie not that way the other part of my advice is to use this craft Send to thy Gazetteer he that Printed the Title of thy Vindication and desire him to publish this following Declaration Whereas there was lately Printed a very simple and malicious Pamphlet called a Vindication of Naked Truth the Second Part against the trivial Objections of one Fullwood under the pretended Name of Phil. Hickeringill that the Scandalous Pamphlet might go off the better These are to give Notice that the said Pamphlet is so idle and trivial and rudely Barbarous and so insolently treats an ancient Doctor in Divinity and the Laws of England and our Church-Government that the true Phil-Hickeringill is ashamed of it and doth hereby disown and disavow it as the off-spring of the windy vapour of some hot Spanish Genet or to speak more truly if not so properly some wild English Ass Given under my Hand Philautos or the true Phil-Hickeringill THE END A CATALOGUE of some Books lately Printed for Richard Royston THE Establish'd Church Or a Subversion of all the Romanists Pleas for the Popes Supremacy in England Together with a Vindication of the present Government of the Church of England as allow'd by the Laws of the Land against all Fanatical exceptions particularly of Mr. Hickeringill in his Scandalous Pamphlet stiled NAKED TRVTH the 2d Part. By Fran. Fullwood D. D. Arch-deacon of Totnes in Devon 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Or a Discourse of the Morality of the Sabbath being an Exposition of Exod. xx v. 8 9 10 11. with Prayers relating thereunto humbly offered to this present Age. By John Gregory Arch-deacon of Glocester The New Distemper Or the Dissenters Usual Pleas for Comprehension Toleration and the Renouncing the Covenant Consider'd and Discuss'd with some Reflections upon Mr. Baxter's and Mr. Alsop's late Pamphlets published in Answer to the Reverend Dean of S. Paul's Sermon concerning Separation The Lively Picture of Lewis du Moulin drawn by an incomparable Hand Together with his Last Words Being his Retractation of all the Personal Reflections he had made on the Divines of the Church of England in several Books of his Signed by Himself on the Fifth and the Seventeenth of October 1680.