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tex_fw-la 24._o animaid_n est_fw-fr quo_fw-la vinimus_fw-la &_o sentimus_fw-la &_o movemur_fw-la &_o intelligimus_fw-la primò_fw-la the_o soul_n be_v that_o whereby_o we_o first_o or_o principal_o live_v and_o have_v sense_n and_o be_v move_v and_o do_v understand_v 12._o the_o second_o be_v that_o the_o spiritual_a power_n may_v command_v or_o forbid_v the_o civil_a power_n to_o exercise_v civil_a action_n not_o only_a when_o they_o be_v necessary_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o spiritual_a power_n which_o be_v the_o health_n of_o the_o soul_n but_o also_o when_o they_o be_v necessary_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o temporal_a power_n which_o be_v temporal_a peace_n as_o the_o soul_n have_v power_n to_o command_v or_o forbid_v the_o body_n to_o exercise_v bodily_a action_n as_o to_o see_v hear_v speak_v etc._n etc._n not_o only_a when_o they_o be_v necessary_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o end_n and_o good_a of_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v spiritual_a life_n and_o health_n but_o also_o when_o they_o be_v necessary_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o good_a of_o the_o body_n which_o be_v bodily_a health_n and_o life_n and_o therefore_o card._n bellarmine_n declare_v this_o similitude_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o flesh_n do_v only_o affirm_v that_o the_o spirit_n do_v command_v the_o flesh_n when_o her_o action_n be_v hurtful_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o cunning_o omit_v that_o the_o spirit_n also_o dorh_fw-mi command_v the_o flesh_n when_o her_o action_n be_v necessary_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o flesh_n lest_o the_o reader_n shall_v present_o perceive_v thereby_o the_o disparity_n of_o this_o similitude_n or_o else_o from_o thence_o infer_v that_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o spiritual_a power_n may_v command_v the_o temporal_a power_n not_o only_o in_o order_n to_o spiritual_a good_a but_o also_o in_o order_n to_o temporal_a good_a which_o be_v the_o canonist_n doctrine_n and_o which_o card._n bellarmine_n do_v at_o large_a impugn_v 13._o last_o in_o what_o manner_n s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n do_v compare_v the_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a power_n or_o rather_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a prince_n to_o the_o body_n and_o soul_n i_o have_v sufficient_o declare_v before_o 3._o before_o cap._n 3._o to_o wit_n not_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o union_n or_o subjection_n but_o only_o in_o nobility_n and_o in_o that_o temporal_a prince_n be_v in_o as_o excellent_a and_o worthy_a manner_n subject_a to_o temporal_a prince_n as_o spiritual_a thing_n be_v more_o excellent_a and_o worthy_a then_o temporal_a so_o that_o neither_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n nor_o from_o the_o similitude_n itself_o of_o the_o body_n and_o soul_n as_o it_o be_v declare_v and_o urge_v by_o card_n bellarmine_n can_v it_o with_o any_o probability_n be_v gather_v that_o the_o spiritual_a power_n can_v of_o herself_o exercise_v any_o temporal_a action_n belong_v to_o the_o civil_a power_n without_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n although_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o spiritual_a power_n as_o the_o soul_n can_v of_o herself_o without_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o body_n exercise_v any_o bodily_a action_n although_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o end_n not_o only_o of_o the_o body_n but_o also_o of_o the_o soul_n and_o therefore_o i_o marvel_v that_o card._n bellarmine_n can_v be_v so_o much_o oversee_v as_o to_o urge_v and_o repeat_v so_o often_o this_o similitude_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n to_o prove_v the_o pope_n power_n to_o depose_v and_o to_o dispose_v of_o all_o temporal_n which_o be_v so_o flat_a against_o he_o and_o which_o if_o it_o be_v a_o fit_a similitude_n do_v rather_o confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o canonist_n who_o card._n bellarmine_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o confute_v than_o his_o own_o opinion_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o it_o confirm_v neither_o for_o that_o as_o i_o declare_v before_o 2.3_o before_o cap._n 2.3_o the_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a power_n or_o the_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a commonwealth_n be_v not_o part_n compound_v one_o total_a body_n or_o commonwealth_n as_o the_o body_n and_o soul_n do_v compound_v a_o perfect_a man_n chap_n 9_o wherein_o the_o five_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o subjection_n of_o the_o temporal_a power_n to_o the_o spiritual_a take_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n bernard_n and_o pope_n boniface_n the_o eight_o be_v examine_v 1._o the_o five_o argument_n which_o car._n bellarmine_n bring_v 7._o bring_v lib._n 5._o de_fw-la râ—m_fw-la pont._n c._n 7._o to_o prove_v the_o subjection_n of_o the_o temporal_a power_n among_o christian_n to_o the_o spiritual_a be_v take_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n bernard_n lib._n 4._o the_o considerate_a and_o pope_n boniface_n the_o eight_o in_o the_o extravagant_a unam_fw-la sanctam_fw-la who_o do_v imitate_v say_v card._n bellarmine_n s._n bernard_n word_n the_o word_n of_o s._n bernard_n to_o pope_n eugenius_n be_v these_o why_o do_v thou_o again_o attempt_v to_o usurp_v or_o use_v vsurpare_fw-la use_v vsurpare_fw-la the_o sword_n which_o once_o thou_o be_v command_v to_o put_v up_o into_o the_o scabbard_n which_o nevertheless_o he_o that_o deni_v to_o be_v thou_o do_v seem_v to_o i_o not_o sufficient_o to_o have_v consider_v the_o speech_n of_o our_o lord_n say_v return_v thy_o sword_n into_o the_o scabbard_n therefore_o it_o be_v also_o thou_o to_o be_v draw_v forth_o perchance_o at_o thy_o beck_n tuo_fw-la beck_n nutu_fw-la tuo_fw-la or_o direction_n although_o not_o with_o thy_o hand_n otherwise_o if_o also_o it_o do_v in_o no_o manner_n appertain_v to_o thou_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v behold_v to_o sword_n here_o our_o lord_n have_v not_o answer_v it_o be_v enough_o but_o it_o be_v too_o much_o therefore_o both_o the_o spiritual_a and_o the_o material_a sword_n do_v belong_v to_o the_o church_n but_o the_o material_a be_v indeed_o to_o be_v exercise_v or_o draw_v