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be_v no_o schismatic_n but_o your_o carriage_n and_o practice_n be_v 〈…〉_z they_o to_o join_v together_o in_o a_o distinct_a communion_n from_o you_o and_o may_v not_o your_o own_o word_n ibid._n p._n 356_o be_v return_v scil._n that_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n the_o present_a division_n and_o separation_n lie_v at_o your_o door_n if_o it_o be_v not_o make_v evident_a that_o there_o be_v most_o just_a and_o sufficient_a reason_n for_o your_o cast_v they_o out_o of_o your_o communion_n and_o suppose_v any_o church_n though_o pretend_v to_o be_v never_o so_o catholic_n do_v restrain_v her_o communion_n within_o such_o narrow_a and_o unjust_a bound_n that_o she_o declare_v such_o excommunicate_a who_o do_v not_o approve_v all_o such_o error_n in_o doctrine_n and_o corruption_n in_o practice_n which_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o a_o church_n may_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o cause_n of_o that_o division_n which_o follow_v fall_v upon_o that_o church_n which_o exact_v those_o 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dead_a at_o his_o appear_v and_o kingdom_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o be_v instant_a in_o season_n etc._n etc._n ib._n p._n 226_o 227._o q._n 15._o whether_o any_o man_n have_v authority_n to_o forbid_v a_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o forfeit_v not_o his_o office-power_n to_o perform_v the_o office_n to_o which_o he_o be_v ordain_v and_o whether_o such_o remain_v not_o under_o a_o divine_a obligation_n which_o man_n law_n can_v dissolve_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o right_a as_o bishop_n bilson_n say_v if_o prince_n forbid_v we_o we_o must_v go_v on_o with_o our_o work_n what_o if_o a_o interdict_v silence_v all_o the_o minister_n in_o a_o kingdom_n must_v all_o obey_v what_o if_o it_o silence_v more_o than_o can_v be_v spare_v without_o the_o church_n wrong_v and_o who_o law_n be_v they_o that_o will_v so_o bind_v be_v it_o infidel_n prince_n or_o only_a christian_n be_v it_o papist_n etc._n etc._n or_o only_o the_o orthodox_n must_v god_n ask_v leave_n of_o 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but_o the_o defender_n of_o it_o to_o preach_v ib._n p._n 115_o 116._o q._n 17._o whether_o god_n have_v authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v and_o command_v in_o what_o word_n only_o every_o pastor_n shall_v public_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o what_o book_n and_o word_n of_o man_n he_o shall_v profess_v assent_n and_o consent_v to_o and_o what_o dedicate_a symbol_n of_o christianity_n he_o shall_v use_v as_o engage_v in_o the_o christian_a covenant_n and_o to_o command_v ceremony_n and_o mode_n for_o dissent_n wherein_o he_o shall_v deny_v baptism_n and_o church-communion_n to_o all_o dissenter_n though_o the_o thing_n be_v take_v to_o be_v indifferent_a by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o great_a sin_n by_o the_o dissenter_n answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 14._o q._n 18._o whether_o pastor_n usurp_v not_o power_n over_o one_o another_o when_o they_o command_v all_o about_o they_o to_o speak_v to_o man_n from_o god_n or_o to_o god_n from_o man_n in_o no_o other_o word_n but_o 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to_o have_v unchangeable_o fix_v all_o ritual_n and_o yet_o confess_v that_o moral_n be_v fix_o determine_v ib._n p._n 214_o 215._o it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o temper_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o ever_o subject_v ceremony_n rite_n and_o external_n order_n to_o moral_n and_o to_o man_n good_a and_o the_o great_a end_n ib._n three_o part_n p._n 81._o q._n 21._o when_o the_o most_o learned_a sober_a judicious_a conformist_n differ_v not_o at_o all_o from_o we_o about_o the_o matter_n itself_o to_o which_o we_o deny_v conformity_n but_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v unlawful_a as_o to_o the_o hard_a point_n of_o the_o impose_v subscription_n oath_n declaration_n and_o covenant_n and_o only_o take_v the_o word_n in_o such_o a_o sense_n in_o which_o we_o ourselves_o can_v take_v they_o be_v we_o persuade_v that_o it_o be_v indeed_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o they_o query_n hereupon_o how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o they_o who_o be_v as_o much_o as_o we_o against_o that_o sense_n 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teach_v not_o heresy_n nor_o preach_v down_o holiness_n etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v we_o not_o their_o communion_n unless_o we_o will_v sin_v or_o a_o conformist_n that_o will_v hold_v communion_n with_o none_o but_o his_o own_o party_n but_o separate_v from_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o land_n ib._n p._n 41._o be_v he_o a_o great_a separatist_n that_o confess_v they_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o their_o communion_n lawful_a but_o prefer_v another_o as_o fit_a for_o he_o or_o he_o that_o deny_v communion_n with_o true_a worship_v assembly_n as_o unlawful_a to_o be_v communicate_v with_o when_o it_o be_v not_o so_o if_o the_o former_a then_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o condemn_v they_o as_o no_o church_n be_v a_o diminution_n or_o no_o aggravation_n of_o separation_n and_o the_o local_a presence_n of_o a_o infidel_n or_o scorner_n will_v be_v a_o less_o separate_a state_n than_o the_o absence_n of_o their_o friend_n if_o the_o latter_a which_o be_v certain_a then_o 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