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A07803	A direct answer vnto the scandalous exceptions, which Theophilus Higgons hath lately obiected against D. Morton In the which there is principally discussed, two of the most notorious obiections vsed by the Romanists, viz. 1. M. Luthers conference with the diuell, and 2. The sence of the article of Christ his descension into hell.	Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659.	1609 (1609)	STC 18181; ESTC S103393	25,429	38

first say your mind T. H. But I beseech you do YOV that is to say your Church of England most willingly professe this Catholicke opinion Alas that your Apologist hath so iustly called God to reuenge this falshood vpon his soule let him intreate our Lord to pardon that prouocation of his iudgement The Answerer First in generall I said indeed wee but I said not we all If now that which was spoken indefinitely in these words We professe nothing the common opinion of our Church must necessarily be enforced vniuersally as M. Higgons doth to signifie all why did the Apostle without distinction condemne the Corinthians for not sorrowing at the wickednesse of the incestuous or generally reprooue the Galathiās as being bewitched reuolted from the Gospel Wil M. Higgons his diuinity cōclude that euery Christian man in Corinth and in Galathia were reprehensible If all such indefinite speeches may be thus racked then may all humane diuine writings be condemned of falshood for Both Apostles Prophets saith Cardinal Bellarmine do often reprehend all the people as though there were not one good when notwithstāding diuerse good ones are among thē I further demand doth he think the opinion of the reall descent Catholick that is vniuersal yes he wil say it is among all Romanists vniuersall and yet knoweh that their great subtle schooleman Durandus held it to be but a vertuall descent T. H. And in the meane time I will demonstrate his falshood by foure euidences FIRST if YOV be of this opinion as he pretendeth why are your Bibles infected with this absurd Translation Thou wilt not leaue my soule in graue Is this to submit your sense vnto the Scripture or it is not rather to draw it vnto your preiudicate opiniō This is to measure the yard by the cloth and thus while you should be faithfull Translators you become corrupt Interpreters of the Scripture SECONDLY why was your Church so distracted in this matter vpon the Sermon and Treatise of D. Bilson How came it to passe that D. Reinolds his Caluinian resolution in this matter was confuted by M. Perks and why did M. Willet the Synopticall Theologue as he is phrased by D. Barlow oppose himself against M. Perks his answer Why do your Ministers publickly in Sermons and in print impugne this true and Catholicke opinion THIRDLY why is no Minister punished for his repugnancie vnto this truth which is of greater consequence then crosse cap surplice or any ceremonious thing or whatsoeuer institution of your Church for which many haue suffered depriuation of their liuings FOVRTHLY the testimonie of M. Rogers whose booke hath a speciall approbation as you may see before will conuince D. Morton of notorious falshood For though his purpose was to deliuer the Catholicke doctrine of YOVR Church yet when he cometh vnto this Article he saith that in the interpretation of it there is not that consent which were to be wished some holding one opinion thereof and some another Wherefore yeelding no certaine doctrine but leauing men vnto their choise he addeth TILL we know the natiue and vndoubted sence of this Article c. The Answer Here are many questions which may be answered by questioning First in our Church-Bible it is read Thou shalt not leaue my soule in hell why then did M. Higgons insist onely in the Geneua translation Notwithstanding if this one place were in all Bibles translated hell yet it is but a fond peece of Sophistrie to conclude a generall from a particular and that also negatiuely which is all one as if he should haue said Not long before my publike reuolt I writ a booke against the Romish doctrine of veniall sin Ergo before that time I held not any point of popery Again let him ingenuously satisfie vs if their Church hold the Article by force of the word Hell in Scriptures then why were some of their Romanists suffered to say as their Iesuit Valentia affirmeth that the word Infernus that is Hell in Scriptures is nothing else but the graue Why durst their Iesuite Pineda confesse that the word Sheol which many Romanists appropriate vnto hell is sometimes in Scripture vsed for the graue Or why might Pineda expound the vulgar Translatiō Hell Iob. 17. 13. to signifie Graue contrarie vnto their expositors who as he saith did interprete it to betoken the paines of hell Thirdly why doth M. Higgons charge me with the fore-knowledge of M. Willets opposition against M. Perks or the testimonie of M. Rogers whose bookes were published after my Apologie and he might well thinke that I was no Prophet to foresee what would afterwards be written by other men Fourthly if such kind of coniectures may be called demonstrations let him answer for their Councell of Trent which prescribed as it selfe saith A Creed vsed by the Church of Rome as the principle wherein all the professors of Christ do consent holding it as the onely firme foundation against which the gates of hell shall neuer preuaile in so many words as it is read in all Churches I beleeue in God c. why it did chuse that forme wherin this Article of descent into hell is not expresly mentioned which forme two of your Iesuits did follow euen then when they sought to catechize people in the rudiments of faith The most of these their owne aboue-mentioned differences M. Higgons did no doubt perceiue in my booke of Apologie whence he tooke his obiections and yet hath aduentured to make this his assault being twise conuicted in himselfe both by the friuolousnesse of his reasons and also by the regest of their owne like contradictions But of this article more remaineth to be deliuered after that I haue answered vnto my last taxation T. H. If this be not a sensible conuiction of M. Doctors singular vntruth I must confesse that I haue done him iniurie and will be readie to make any satisfaction that he can reasonably demaund Meanewhile he must giue me leaue to detect another of his excellent sleights and ther I will referre him vnto his best thoughts As it was a notable vanitie in him to affirme that YOV do willingly embrace the Catholicke opinion in this Article so that is a delicate collusion which ensneth within the compasse of three lines à VOBIS c WE in England differ from YOV Papists concerning the place vnto which Christ descended For WE say that he descended vnto the hell of the damned hut YOV say that he descended onely ad Limbum Patrum the region of the Fathers The Author cited by him is Feu-ardentius whose opinion he imputeth here as generally vnto the Papists as he applied the other vnto your English Church But forasmuch as M. Doctor doth continually deale with BELLARMINE and in the words immediatly precedent alledged him particularly also in this matter as you see why did he now pretermit him and select another I will shew you

A DIRECT ANSWER VNTO THE SCANDALOVS EXCEPtions which Theophilus Higgons hath lately obiected against D. Morton In the which there is principally discussed Two of the most notorious Obiections vsed by the Romanists viz. 1. M. Luthers conference with the diuell and 2. The sence of the Article of Christ his descension into hell IOB 31. v. 35. 36. Though mine aduersaries would write a booke against me Would I not take it vpon my shoulder and binde it as a crowne vnto me LONDON Printed for EDMVND WEAVER 1609. TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE RAPH LORD EVRE LORD PRESIDENT OF the Principalitie Dominion and marches of Wales and Lord Lieutenant of the same THe many tokens of that interest which by your fauour right Honorable I haue in your fauour hath thus emboldened me in this little Treatise to manifest my due acknowledgement of your Lordships loue towards me but much more vnto the truth of Christ which doth ennoble you both in the sight of Angels and of men Not many nobles saith the Apostle but he addeth according vnto the flesh that we should not wonder at this defect but deplore it for we know that the Spirit of Christ which called the faithfull of Thessalonica noble because of their diligent studie in the sacred Scriptures and zealous inquisition of the truth of the Gospell doth teach vs to esteeme of all such as the off-spring of right Nobilitie which issueth not from generation but from regeneration the praise and glorie whereof is not of men but of God My speciall intendment in this dedication right Honorable was to giue your Lordship notice what kinde of conflicts I am daily to expect seeing that after the assault of a Moderator and a Mitigator now one T. H. a Motioner is sent to insult vpon me vnder a pretence of charging me with falsifications But how farre my disposition hath bene from this wickednesse I haue presumed to appeale vnto your Honours experience What my desert is the examination of his particulars will best discouer which I referre vnto the equanimity of your Lordships censure submitting my selfe either vnto the abalienation of your Honorable fauour or else your further approbation of me according as I shal be found in these points innocent or obnoxious Our Lord Iesus preserue your Honour vnto the glorie of his sauing grace Your Lordships in all due thankfulnesse TH. MORTON To the Reader THe speciall occasion of this Answer Christian Reader was in thy behalfe lest thou shouldest stumble vpon me as vpon a Falsificator who professe my selfe a publisher of truth I haue read my Aduersarie his pretended Motiues and haue since also vnderstood of his true motions which occasioded him to reuolt and comparing them together I could not but recken him among the number of that people who as histories relate did first execute men whom they called Malefactors and then afterward examined their cause For if T. H. had not first run out in a passion and afterwards deuised pretext of Reasons which he calleth his Motiues the law of charitie and of humanitie would haue chalenged him to haue consulted with those Authors whom he doth impugne with whom the Motioner did then stand in the termes of brotherhood As for my selfe I perceiue he hath read my Apologie in which there are many hundreds of testimonies alledged out of the Romish writers wherein they are found to contradict one another almost in euery question and to conuince their owne men of manifest slaunders against Protestants and almost in euery Article to iustifie the grounds of our Religion out of all which M. Higgons hath singled out onely fiue which it may seeme he thought to be more singularly false then any others These haue I examined and after due triall am now prouoked to expostulate the matter with my Aduersarie as Iacob did with Laban saying What haue I trespassed what haue I offended that thou hast pursued after me Seeing thou hast searched all my stuffe what hast thou found suffer me to change a word to charge me withall Put it here before thy brethren and mine either Protestants or Romanists that they may iudge betweene vs both I can say no more but laying open the parcels wish that the Brethren of both sides would iudge betweene vs both are in some sort chargible hereunto not onely by my Aduersaries chalenge who intitleth this part of his booke thus Trie before you trust but much more by the Apostles authoritie exhorting all men concerning things of this nature to Trie all things and to keepe that which is good The Lord Iesus blesse vs and by his preuenting Grace prepare vs alwaies for a comfortable appearance before him in the great day of Triall Thy friend and seruant in Christ Iesus TH. MORTON A DIRECT ANSWER VNTO THE SCANDALOVS EXCEPTIONS WHICH Theophilus Higgons hath lately obiected against D. Morton Theoph Higgons THE PREFACE IF you consider the deliberation of D. MORTON in the contexture of his APOLOGY or his pretended sinceritie therein it may seeme very strange that this worke which was borne after so long trauell should be surcharged with impertinent trifles or subtile collusiōs or malicious vntruthes The Answer I doubt not but my sincerity will indeed seeme strange vnto any that shall consider aright with what insinceritie and impietie it is impugned T. H. For which respects Iames Gretzer a verie noble author hath exorned it with a speciall encomion viz. Hoc opus c. This censure because it proceedeth from an aduersarie and a IESVITE also with whose order it pleaseth D. Morton to contend more eminently then with any other may peraduenture seeme vniust but yet the equitie of it or credibilitie at the least may appeare vnto you by the sequele which being a part doth delineate the condition and qualitie of the whole The Answer I cannot enuie Iames Gretzer your exornation of a very noble if you adde Rayler for although I haue seene many Doctors yet neuer read I of any other that was professor in that kinde whose onely phrases and emblemes of vnciuill Rhetoricke vsed against learned Protestants in that one booke here cited by you I haue seene collected into such a swelling bulke as may bewray that your noble Author in writing it laboured of a tympanie which since hath bene so skilfully vented by the reasons of a learned Protestant that we stand in good hope of his better temper hereafter Concerning whose censure of me you haue said in my behalfe that it proceedeth from an Aduersarie whom my selfe might haue incountred with by the testimony of a friend euen of his own Nation Omnes docti qui hîc sunt c. but I abhorre this folly Yet I wish that I had bene so much beholdē vnto you M. Higgons as to haue examined the particular exceptiōs which Iames Gretzer hath taken against me to haue noted any one thing wherin I haue bene iustly charged of subtle collusion or of malicious vntruths I should

thinke that you were vnwilling to do me this disgrace but that I find by your practise how now adhering vnto them who hold it a Catholicisme to brand me with only an imaginarie imputation you haue honoured your noble Author by your imitation of him and yet proceede and challenge beliefe T. H. Beleeue me Sir that I write this out of my certaine experience not prouoked by any personall dislike of the Author himselfe for I may freely say with the Apostle he hath not hurt me at all but moued thereunto by tender compassion of your estate and others lending your credit vnto them who pay you with falshood and build vp their fortunes in the ruine of your soules The Answer I easily beleeue that I haue done you no hurt therefore if I shall be wronged by you the lesse will be my hurt but the greater my iniurie as is this wherein I am charged to build vp my fortunes with the ruine of mens soules Fortunes M. Higgons aduise with S. Augustine concerning the lawfull vse of the word Fortune in Christianitie and further consider whether the Romane Clergie or the ministerie among the Protestants are in regard of worldly interests to requite you with your owne more fortunate and then conferre you with your selfe whether this fortune was not the chiefe motiue to him of whom the Apostle said Demas hath forsaken me As for me I am sure there is nothing so deare vnto me in this life which I shall not willingly lay downe at the Apostles feete neuer entertaining any portion in this profession further then the religion it selfe shall be found iustifiable by the Apostles doctrine But to the matter You professe to speake nothing but vpon certaine experience This I confesse is a wise Mistresse I desire to heare what she will say T. H. CHAP. I. D. Mortons vntruth in his defence of LVTHER and CALVIN §. 1. How D. Morton diuerteth the scandall of the Diuels dispute with Luther against the Masse I will not handle this controuersie now wherefore I come vnto D. Morton who expediting the same in sixe questions proposeth this in the third place viz. Ought the MASSE to seeme HOLY because the Diuell did reprehend it He answereth no and yeeldeth this reason of his deniall Apud Surium liquet DIABOLVM in specie Angelica apparuisse statim Abbatem vt MISSAM CELEBRARET HORTABATVR Do you see how the infernall serpent doth implicate and wind himselfe He obiecteth the MASSE vnto Luther as a thing execrable and odious vnto God the same Diuell endeuoreth to allure the Abbot vnto it as it were to kisse Gods dearest daughter Therefore the MASSE is no more to be accounted HOLY because Satan seemed to reprehend it then it is to be accounted EXECRABLE because he seemed to allow it And thus the one may componderate with the other the Diuell is alwaies a knaue 4 But do you see how this glorious Doctor doth implicate and wind himselfe Before I go any further I must put you in mind of his protestation viz. I may call God to be witnesse and reuenger against my soule si sciens fallo Againe you may perceiue here that he cannot possibly deriue the cause of his errour vpon the weaknesse of his memorie for he is very exact in his quotation of booke chapter question section and therefore you will see that I had iust cause to charge him with malicious vntruth when you haue examined the Authors discourse which he hath mangled by a rare deprauation For thus writeth his Author Item DIABOLI reuelatio censenda est si suadeat aliqua contra Canones vel constitutiones vel regulas vel alia praecepta maiorum Hoc indicio B. Simeon Monachus Treuerensis eum deprehendit Narratur historia ab Euerwino Abbate In verticem montis Sinai iussu superiorum cùm missus fuisset ibi habitaturus nocturnis horis illi specie Angelicâ Daemon apparuit vt Missam celebret hortatur Ipse nec planè dormiens nec perfectè vigilans contradicit non debere SINE PRESBYTERII ORDINE hoc ministerium implere Contrà inimicus instat se Dei legatum esse Christum hoc velle nec decere sanctum locum ministerio tali diutiùs priuari Renitentem ergo contradicentem adiuncto sibi consortio alterius Daemonis de lectulo educunt ante altare iam vigilantem statuunt albâ induunt de stolâ vtrimque altercantur hostis more presbyteri Simeon more diaconi contendebat sibi imponi debere Tandem Dei famulus ad se reuersus virtute orationis signo Crucis inimicum repellit seque delusum ingemiscit 5 This is the narration of Delrius concerning this matter And now all circumstances duly weighed I dare be bold to say that if D. Morton himselfe or any other in his behalfe can cleare this corruption from the iust imputation of voluntarie knowne resolued determinate malice then the infernall Serpent as he speaketh did neuer tell a lie for which he or they may not likewise extort some colourable defence The Answer relating the whole dispute ALthough you will not handle this Controuersie now yet giue me leaue to report what I haue alreadie handled in that Chapter wherein you insist First were produced the Romish Authors as namely Bellarmine Feu-ardentius Gregory de Valent. Coster and Serarius who all vrgently and violently obiect against Luther that his Religion was receiued from the Diuell And did not the Pharisees vpbraid our Sauiour saying that his vertue of Miracles came from the power of Belzebub Prince of Diuels wherfore this taxation gaue me occasion seriously to enquire into Luthers confession hereof with a purpose that if any such thing should sensibly appeare vnto me then vtterly to abhorre his name and suspect all his doctrine For the manifestation of this matter I examined all circumstances by sixe Interrogatories and supposing the conference had bene personall and not as it may be thought onely imaginarie I thus propounded The first Interrogatorie Whether it be damnable in Luther to conferre with the Didiuell The truth is No because both Christ had a Colloquie with the diuell and many other men in the opinion of our Aduersaries godly haue done the like as their Legends and this Del'rio and other Iesuits do copiously shew The second Interrogatorie Whether Luther did not acknowledge the Diuell to be a lier This was satisfied from Luthers owne speech As though saith he I were ignorant that the Diuell is a lier except you Papists had instructed me So farre was it from him to entertaine the counsell of the Diuell as an Oracle of truth The third Interrogatorie Whether the Masse be therefore to be esteemed as holy because the Diuell did reprehend it I answered No because then may we as well say that the Masse is naught because the Diuell did allow it which I endeuoured to prooue from that testimonie of Del-rio whereupon M. Higgons hath so youthfully insulted and whereunto