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and_o many_o more_o for_o hence_o we_o prove_v against_o papist_n and_o other_o who_o hold_v a_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o church-membership_a and_o salvation_n that_o even_o infant_n may_v be_v save_v and_o must_v be_v own_v member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v bear_v of_o church-member_n though_o they_o die_v in_o their_o infancy_n without_o baptism_n thus_o you_o and_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v confute_v together_o by_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o thief_n 4._o see_v you_o grant_v that_o infant_n by_o this_o example_n may_v be_v save_v without_o baptism_n i_o pray_v you_o consider_v whether_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v unanswerable_o to_o who_o salvation_n belong_v now_o to_o they_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_v of_o salvation_n belong_v but_o to_o infant_n you_o grant_v salvation_n belong_v now_o therefore_o baptism_n also_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_v of_o salvation_n for_o it_o be_v say_v 3.21_o say_v 1_o pet._n 3.21_o baptism_n save_v again_o as_o the_o thief_n on_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o salvation_n have_v a_o right_a to_o baptism_n so_o infant_n of_o believe_a parent_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o salvation_n as_o you_o grant_v have_v right_a to_o baptism_n 5._o those_o scripture_n allege_v by_o you_o be_v impertinent_a you_o do_v but_o still_o more_o pitiful_o entangle_v yourself_o and_o abuse_v the_o scripture_n but_o not_o at_o all_o spoil_n our_o practice_n or_o judgement_n for_o though_o the_o word_n whatsoever_o also_o whatsoever_o as_o the_o word_n all_o be_v to_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o matter_n treat_v of_o 1_o cor._n 6.12_o so_o be_v the_o word_n whatsoever_o mat._n 7.12_o and_o here_o also_o may_v be_v take_v so_o as_o to_o include_v all_o sinful_a matter_n which_o can_v be_v do_v in_o faith_n and_o so_o be_v sin_n and_o all_o external_a duty_n which_o though_o conjoin_v for_o the_o matter_n yet_o not_o do_v in_o faith_n become_v sin_n in_o the_o doer_n yet_o the_o apostle_n in_o rom._n 14.23_o speak_v most_o proper_o of_o thing_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n indifferent_a which_o god_n have_v neither_o command_v nor_o forbid_v and_o express_o of_o meat_n yea_o such_o kind_n of_o meat_n as_o god_n have_v leave_v free_a to_o be_v eat_v or_o forbear_v now_o mark_v the_o vanity_n of_o your_o own_o reason_n infant_n must_v not_o be_v baptize_v because_o they_o want_v faith_n for_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n and_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n like_o this_o infant_n must_v not_o be_v feed_v because_o they_o want_v faith_n for_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n and_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n 2_o the_o latter_a sentence_n in_o heb._n 11.6_o be_v speak_v of_o enoch_n who_o live_v long_o before_o abraham_n and_o make_v as_o
liberty_n to_o swerve_v from_o these_o primitive_a practice_n etc._n etc._n 4._o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infantâ—_n be_v of_o that_o weight_n with_o the_o paedobaptist_n that_o you_o must_v bâ—ing_v more_o convince_a argument_n than_o you_o have_v yet_o do_v to_o take_v they_o off_o from_o that_o custom_n as_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v mr._n cradock_n to_o who_o mr._n baxter_n refer_v you_o tell_v you_o 4._o you_o gospel-liberty_n p._n 2d_o &_o 4._o i_o hat_n christ_n have_v not_o make_v baptism_n such_o a_o ordinance_n as_o that_o in_o all_o climate_n and_o countries-and_a region_n they_o must_v go_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n in_o a_o river_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 22._o h._n h._n you_o say_v that_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n as_o high_a as_o to_o the_o apostle_n as_o there_o be_v many_o sufficient_a history_n extant_a inform_v we_o and_o that_o the_o defer_v of_o baptism_n come_v in_o with_o the_o 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