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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A70690	Observations on the four letters of Dr. John Wallis concerning the Trinity and the Creed of Athanasius	Nye, Stephen, 1648?-1719.	1691 (1691)	Wing N1508A; ESTC R41199	24,893	22

do think this is an harsh way of speaking yet for Peace sake they would admit this Explication The Doctor 's Explication of the Athanasian Creed consider'd IT was with great expectation that I began to read Dr. Wallis his third Letter because it bears this ambitious Front An Explication and Vindication of the Athanasian Creed I supposed He would attempt to assoil all the Difficulties and Contradictions objected to it at least those in the Brief Notes on that Creed But he meant no more by this Title but this An Explication of the Damnatory Clauses in the Athanasian Creed This was to me a wonderful Disappointment However I will be content to consider what Dr. Wallis thought worthy to offer He saith Lett. 3. pag. 4. Whosoever will be saved before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholick Faith Where saith the Doctor before all things is as much as Imprimis importing that it is mainly necessary or is a principal Requisite Was there ever a greater force put upon words 'T is before all things necessary saith the Creed that s saith the Gloss 'T is a principal Requisite I always thought there had been an immense difference between Necessary and Requisite and that abundance of Things had been mainly or principally requisite which yet were not indispensably or before all Things necessary But which of these Athanasius meant the next Clause puts out of question Which Faith saith the Creed except every one do keep whole and undefiled without doubt he shall perish everlastingly The Grammatical and obvious Sense of these words is this That Man or Woman shall perish everlastingly who doth not believe and profess this following Faith which is indeed the Catholic or Universal Faith without taking ought from it or adding ought to it No says Dr. Wallis the Greek word is not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 totam or whole but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 salvam sanam sound or safe And says he farther As a Man may be said to be sound and safe notwithstanding a Wart or Wen or even a Wound or a Maim so long as the Vitals are not indangered So the Catholic Faith is sound and safe so long as there is nothing destructive of the main Substantials or Fundamentals This is a marvellous reasoning and such as the Doctor will very hardly persuade any to believe it Is a Man safe and sound when his Legs and Arms are shot off so long as the Vitals are not indangered but intire and safe God deliver me and Dr. Wallis too from such Soundness and Safeness And if the Catholic Faith is sound too as he says so long as the Substantials and Fundamentals remain it will follow that the Faith of the Church of Rome is sound For all Protestants but the Socinians grant that Church retains all the Substantials and Fundamentals yet her Faith they confess is unsound because of the erroneous Additions to the Substantials and Fundamentals The Doctor therefore shall do well to think again of this part of his Explication But whereas he would confirm these Perversions of the true intention of the damning Clauses in this Creed by criticizing on the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I must plainly tell him he is grosly out in his Criticism 'T is not says he 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 totam or whole but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 salvam sanam sound or safe Is not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 indeed the same with 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If he pleases to consult his Lexicons he will find that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is rendred integram perfectam whole or perfect so that the sense of this Article is That Faith must be kept perfect whole or entire nothing must be added to it nothing taken from it Lett. 3. pag. 8. And the Catholic Faith is this that is this is one main Part of the Catholic Faith I confess at this rate of expounding a very tolerable Sense may be made of this Creed and of the Alchoran If before all Things necessary is only mainly requisite if whole and undefiled may be true of a Faith which is neither whole nor undefiled but sound only in Fundamentals if the Catholic Faith is only part of the Catholic Faith what Creed or Book may not be expounded to a sound Sense Lett. 3. pag. 11. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son neither Made nor Begotten but Proceeding Here is no Anathematizing of the Greek Church 'T is said indeed he doth proceed and so say they but not that he doth proceed from the Father and the Son And it is said he is of the Father and of the Son but whether by Procession from both or if so whether in the same manner is not said but warily avoided And those who are better acquainted with the Doctrine and Languages of the present Greek Churches than most of us are do assure us that the Differences between them and us are rather in some Forms of Expressions than in the Thing it self To this I answer The Doctor had as much reason to deny that in this Article the Spirit is said to proceed from the Father as from the Son For the word Proceeding is so placed both in the Greek and English as to refer to both or to neither Besides Proceeding is he knows the very Characteristic of the Spirit so that if he is of or from the Father and the Son which the Doctor will not deny is expresly affirmed in this Article it must be by proceeding from them which since the Greeks deny 't is manifest their Doctrine is here condemned What he adds of the present Greek Churches is not true 't is certain they hold that their Doctrine is condemned in this Article and therefore in return to Athanasius his Complement that they shall perish everlastingly they pleasantly answer He was drunk when he made this Creed The Athanasian Creed has this Conclusion This is the Catholic Faith which except a Man keep faithfully he cannot be saved How can Dr. Wallis elude these plain words which are not annexed to any Generals as he though untruly says of the other Damnatory Clauses but are as it were the Label and Seal affixed to the whole Creed at the end or bottom of it But what cannot a Wit and a Learned Man do at least what will he not attempt He gives us a large Interpretation of this Clause at pag. 19. of his third Letter but the summ of it is this This is the Catholic Faith i. e. this is part of that Faith which all Christians do and ought to believe Which Faith except a Man keep faithfully he cannot be saved i. e. which Faith except a Man truly believe it as to the Substantials of it though possibly he may be ignorant of many particulars thereof he cannot be saved Which is as if the Doctor had said Whereas the Athanasian Creed concludes with these formidable and seemingly plain words This before related is the Catholic Faith which except a