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A49440 Observations, censures, and confutations of notorious errours in Mr. Hobbes his Leviathan and other his bookes to which are annexed occasionall anim-adversions on some writings of the Socinians and such hæreticks of the same opinion with him / by William Lucy ... Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1663 (1663) Wing L3454; ESTC R31707 335,939 564

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much_o less_o be_v man_n able_a to_o reach_v at_o that_o infinite_a excellency_n of_o god_n be_v many_o degree_n much_o low_o than_o god_n than_o any_o creature_n be_v below_o man_n this_o be_v the_o knowledge_n a_o man_n may_v have_v of_o god_n if_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n else_o it_o must_v be_v that_o other_o way_n in_o which_o many_o divine_n have_v tread_v beside_o these_o negative_n of_o imperfection_n to_o conceive_v these_o thing_n we_o call_v perfection_n to_o be_v in_o a_o much_o more_o infinite_o excellent_a manner_n in_o he_o who_o be_v god_n so_o a_o husbandman_n may_v know_v that_o a_o learned_a man_n exceed_v he_o in_o knowledge_n and_o that_o this_o knowledge_n be_v in_o divine_a natural_a and_o moral_a thing_n but_o what_o that_o knowledge_n of_o he_o be_v he_o can_v tell_v unless_o that_o learned_a man_n reveal_v it_o to_o he_o so_o it_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o god_n revelation_n we_o know_v he_o have_v excellency_n beyond_o we_o that_o these_o consist_v in_o these_o or_o these_o eminency_n but_o what_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o these_o eminency_n no_o man_n can_v know_v but_o he_o to_o who_o god_n reveale_n they_o yet_o he_o can_v choose_v but_o desire_n to_o know_v they_o but_o it_o may_v here_o be_v say_v that_o god_n have_v reveal_v these_o excellency_n of_o he_o in_o his_o holy_a book_n he_o have_v reveal_v something_o of_o himself_o in_o scripture_n enough_o for_o a_o viaticum_fw-la for_o a_o rep●st_n by_o the_o way_n in_o a_o riddle_n dark_o behind_o a_o cloud_n by_o which_o he_o believe_n there_o be_v such_o thing_n yet_o faith_n can_v make_v man_n absolute_o perfect_a it_o be_v the_o support_n it_o the_o foundation_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o but_o peregrinamur_fw-la fide_fw-la we_o must_v be_v stranger_n from_o happiness_n whilst_o we_o live_v in_o faith_n it_o be_v of_o thing_n absent_a happiness_n consist_v in_o the_o fruition_n the_o possession_n of_o what_o be_v present_a which_o can_v be_v so_o long_o as_o we_o be_v believe_v faith_n give_v we_o a_o man_n a_o near_a approach_n to_o happiness_n than_o any_o thing_n else_o in_o this_o world_n and_o therefore_o a_o faithful_a man_n can_v pass_v better_o through_o all_o the_o affront_n of_o this_o world_n than_o any_o other_o because_o he_o be_v there_o be_v a_o happiness_n for_o he_o elsewhere_o that_o he_o be_v approach_v to_o it_o his_o conversation_n be_v in_o heaven_n as_o s._n paul_n speak_v his_o thought_n be_v there_o his_o business_n and_o negotiation_n this_o world_n belong_v not_o to_o he_o but_o yet_o he_o be_v go_v to_o his_o happiness_n only_o he_o be_v not_o there_o until_o he_o put_v off_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n there_o be_v other_o revelation_n to_o prophetic_a person_n etc._n by_o dream_n vision_n and_o other_o apparition_n by_o which_o god_n be_v please_v to_o reveal_v himself_o to_o some_o especial_a servant_n of_o he_o but_o these_o be_v of_o some_o particular_a thing_n which_o can_v fill_v the_o vast_a understanding_n of_o man_n there_o be_v likewise_o ecstasy_n in_o some_o man_n which_o i_o guess_v have_v have_v by_o they_o full_a and_o great_a manifestation_n of_o god_n of_o that_o kind_n be_v that_o saint_n paul_n speak_v of_o in_o which_o be_v unutterable_a mystery_n but_o these_o be_v very_o short_a enough_o to_o give_v a_o man_n a_o taste_n of_o heaven_n not_o satisfy_v he_o enough_o to_o make_v he_o long_o for_o more_o of_o the_o same_o and_o desire_v to_o be_v dissolve_v and_o be_v with_o christ_n enough_o to_o give_v he_o a_o eagerness_n of_o desire_n mix_v with_o the_o comfort_n of_o assurance_n he_o who_o have_v happiness_n as_o it_o must_v be_v full_a so_o it_o must_v be_v constant_a without_o loss_n or_o fear_v of_o lose_v for_o although_o beast_n be_v happy_a in_o the_o present_a enjoyment_n of_o their_o happy_a object_n because_o they_o have_v no_o forecast_n of_o any_o future_a evil_n unless_o such_o little_a sagacity_n and_o instinct_n of_o nature_n as_o dispose_v they_o to_o these_o or_o these_o provision_n for_o the_o future_a yet_o man_n have_v foreseeing_a eye_n always_o look_v at_o what_o will_v become_v of_o he_o hereafter_o can_v be_v happy_a in_o the_o present_a without_o forecast_n of_o the_o future_a what_o he_o shall_v be_v and_o therefore_o these_o temporary_a felicity_n can_v make_v he_o bless_v sect._n 13._o what_o i_o have_v say_v of_o the_o understanding_n world_n may_v be_v apply_v to_o the_o will_n for_o the_o understanding_n give_v we_o light_v to_o all_o the_o will_v his_o action_n and_o the_o reasonable_a will_n can_v possible_o enjoy_v any_o thing_n without_o it_o therefore_o as_o the_o understanding_n can_v in_o this_o world_n full_o apprehend_v the_o infinite_a good_a neither_o can_v the_o will_v enjoy_v it_o the_o will_n joye'_v in_o nothing_o which_o be_v not_o present_a and_o the_o understanding_n be_v that_o only_a arm_n which_o embrace_v this_o infinite_a good_a and_o the_o only_a hand_n which_o lay_v hold_v of_o it_o to_o convey_v it_o to_o the_o will_n and_o therefore_o because_o the_o understanding_n can_v full_o and_o clear_o receive_v this_o infinite_a goodness_n neither_o understanding_n nor_o will_v neither_o of_o these_o most_o excellent_a faculty_n can_v be_v perfect_v in_o this_o world_n sect._n 14._o and_o now_o after_o this_o tedious_a discourse_n prove_v from_o which_o i_o can_v yet_o hardly_o withdraw_v my_o pen_n consider_v my_o argument_n and_o see_v if_o in_o reason_n it_o may_v not_o yield_v a_o man_n as_o strong_a assurance_n as_o almost_o any_o natural_a truth_n that_o there_o be_v a_o felicity_n after_o death_n consider_v the_o most_o apparent_a truth_n which_o thy_o reason_n can_v perswad●_n thou_o to_o of_o thing_n unseen_a thou_o be_v assure_v that_o all_o man_n in_o all_o the_o world_n be_v mortal_a and_o must_v die_v ask_v the_o reason_n thou_o see_v or_o ●earest_a that_o all_o here_o do_v so_o where_o thou_o live_v and_o from_o thence_o can_v collect_v that_o death_n belong_v to_o all_o mankind_n thou_o know_v that_o the_o fire_n burn_v in_o the_o indies_n because_o it_o have_v a_o power_n of_o burn_a and_o a_o appetite_n to_o it_o wheresoever_o it_o be_v so_o i_o w●ll_n argue_v not_o from_o one_o species_n or_o sort_n of_o thing_n but_o from_o all_o the_o thing_n in_o this_o world_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n which_o have_v a_o appetite_n not_o satisfiable_a a_o power_n without_o a_o adequate_a subject_n as_o logician_n speak_v therefore_o it_o must_v be_v in_o man_n in_o who_o certain_o there_o can_v be_v nothing_o in_o vain_a or_o imperfect_a so_o that_o the_o certainty_n of_o this_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o most_o universal_a principle_n that_o be_v in_o nature_n and_o such_o a_o principle_n which_o be_v as_o universal_o touch_v upon_o by_o philosopher_n and_o schoolman_n as_o any_o one_o whatsoever_o that_o deus_n &_o natura_fw-la nihil_fw-la faciunt_fw-la frustra_fw-la that_o frustra_fw-la est_fw-la potentia_fw-la quae_fw-la nunquam_fw-la reducitur_fw-la in_o actum_fw-la which_o these_o power_n shall_v be_v if_o there_o be_v no_o felicity_n after_o this_o life_n because_o there_o can_v be_v none_o absolute_o here_o sect._n 15._o i_o know_v of_o but_o two_o thing_n which_o can_v be_v object_v here_o against_o this_o conclusion_n and_o i_o will_v endeavour_v to_o satisfy_v they_o in_o order_n severally_z 1._o the_o first_o be_v that_o although_o man_n can_v enjoy_v the_o complete_a full_a satisfaction_n of_o these_o power_n in_o this_o life_n yet_o he_o may_v be_v happy_a in_o those_o little_a parcel_n of_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o his_o delight_n in_o that_o by_o confine_v his_o desire_n and_o curb_v it_o in_o sapere_fw-la ad_fw-la sobrietatem_fw-la as_o s._n paul_n speak_v and_o thus_o he_o will_v be_v happy_a here_o in_o this_o life_n i_o answer_v this_o may_v breed_v a_o moderate_a content_n imperfect_a but_o not_o a_o happiness_n happiness_n be_v th●n_v which_o no_o more_o can_v be_v desire_v but_o there_o be_v no_o man_n know_v so_o much_o of_o god_n in_o this_o life_n that_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o desire_v more_o because_o more_o be_v knowable_a for_o although_o in_o the_o fullness_n of_o happiness_n the_o whole_a bless_a vision_n be_v manifest_a in_o a_o glorious_a manner_n at_o one_o act_n and_o that_o enjoy_v yet_o here_o we_o get_v it_o by_o piecemeal_n now_o one_o than_o another_o apprehension_n by_o part_n and_o piece_n and_o the_o infiniteness_n of_o divine_a perfection_n be_v such_o that_o no_o man_n life_n apply_v to_o nothing_o else_o can_v compass_v a_o full_a apprehension_n of_o it_o yea_o the_o further_o he_o go_v in_o this_o journey_n the_o further_o he_o finde_n himself_n at_o a_o loss_n and_o behind_o with_o knowledge_n therefore_o a_o man_n must_v not_o be_v content_a but_o strive_v for_o more_o knowledge_n or_o if_o he_o have_v some_o content_n yet_o this_o can_v be_v
give_v we_o when_o it_o say_v that_o aaron_n shall_v be_v a_o spokesman_n for_o moses_n and_o therefore_o instead_o of_o a_o mouth_n unto_o he_o again_o have_v any_o evangelist_n say_v as_o here_o the_o word_n be_v in_o the_o beginning_n the_o voice_n be_v in_o the_o beginning_n can_v any_o man_n have_v expound_v it_o without_o that_o gloss_n of_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n saying_n and_o st._n john_n practice_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v as_o wild_a and_o reasonless_a to_o say_v that_o this_o term_n word_n when_o there_o be_v no_o use_n of_o speech_n or_o other_o phrase_n in_o the_o whole_a book_n of_o god_n expound_v it_o so_o shall_v be_v so_o interpret_v that_o our_o saviour_n humanity_n which_o by_o they_o shall_v speak_v this_o word_n shall_v be_v here_o call_v the_o word_n i_o must_v beg_v the_o reader_n be_v patience_n for_o this_o tediousness_n but_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o this_o one_o syllable_n word_n be_v of_o high_a consideration_n and_o therefore_o i_o have_v dwell_v so_o long_o upon_o it_o but_o now_o we_o will_v strike_v home_o sect._n 8._o in_o this_o sentence_n in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o understand_v this_o term_n word_n of_o our_o saviour_n humanity_n humanity_n which_o do_v exist_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v when_o st._n john_n begin_v to_o preach_v for_o although_o our_o saviour_n be_v then_o in_o be_v yet_o he_o be_v not_o then_o the_o word_n for_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o then_o preach_v but_o about_o to_o be_v preach_v and_o according_a to_o they_o he_o be_v call_v the_o word_n in_o reference_n only_o to_o that_o word_n which_o be_v the_o gospel_n so_o that_o although_o he_o be_v man_n before_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n yet_o he_o can_v not_o be_v in_o their_o notion_n the_o word_n then_o metaphorical_o neither_o metaphorical_o because_o than_o he_o have_v not_o reveal_v the_o will_n of_o god_n concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o man_n nor_o metonymical_o metonymical_o because_o then_o this_o word_n which_o reveale_n the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v not_o produce_v and_o the_o text_n most_o express_o set_z down_o the_o time_n in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n sect._n 9_o shift_n but_o socinus_n have_v one_o shift_n which_o be_v on_o the_o top_n of_o the_o 14._o page_n of_o his_o treatise_n against_o the_o pasnonienses_n pag._n 61._o christ_n be_v then_o when_o john_n baptist_n begin_v to_o preach_v and_o be_v then_o destine_v by_o god_n to_o that_o office_n to_o wit_n in_o open_v or_o preach_v the_o will_n of_o god_n thus_o far_o he_o now_o the_o reveal_n the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n and_o it_o seem_v by_o he_o that_o although_o christ_n be_v not_o actual_o the_o word_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n yet_o he_o w●s_v such_o in_o god_n decree_n and_o that_o may_v suffice_v to_o make_v he_o the_o word_n but_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v that_o he_o who_o be_v decree_v to_o be_v any_o thing_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v such_o until_o he_o actual_o exist_v now_o the_o text_n say_v in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n not_o it_o shall_v be_v the_o word_n when_o the_o decree_n be_v expire_v be_v and_o shall_v be_v differ_v as_o much_o as_o time_n can_v distinguish_v and_o yet_o what_o the_o text_n say_v be_v socinus_n say_v shall_v be_v when_o he_o say_v he_o be_v decree_v to_o be_v upon_o such_o a_o foundation_n we_o may_v say_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v or_o shall_v be_v a_o thousand_o year_n hence_o be_v a_o thousand_o year_n ago_o because_o it_o be_v then_o decree_v to_o be_v such_o and_o now_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o that_o i_o have_v answer_v whatsoever_o i_o have_v observe_v deliver_v by_o any_o man_n in_o defence_n of_o their_o exposition_n it_o will_v become_v i_o to_o apply_v myself_o to_o the_o justification_n of_o our_o exposition_n which_o thus_o i_o do_v sect._n 10._o in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n that_o be_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o time_n john_n of_o thing_n when_o the_o world_n be_v create_v out_o of_o nothing_o then_o be_v the_o word_n than_o it_o have_v its_o be_v and_o existence_n other_o thing_n have_v their_o beginning_n they_o be_v then_o make_v but_o he_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n make_v in_o time_n but_o eternal_a be_v then_o this_o be_v a_o short_a deliver_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n and_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v god_n will_v to_o explain_v they_o the_o first_o term_n which_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o expound_v be_v this_o term_n word_n a_o word_n be_v twofold_a internal_a man._n and_o external_a internal_a be_v that_o expression_n our_o intellect_n or_o understanding_n have_v of_o its_o conceit_n within_o its_o self_n external_a be_v the_o expression_n of_o that_o internal_a conceit_n i_o will_v not_o here_o stand_v upon_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o sermo_n and_o verbum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o material_a that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o difference_n be_v apparent_a to_o any_o man_n who_o will_v consider_v how_o he_o deliver_n nothing_o with_o his_o tongue_n which_o he_o have_v not_o a_o notion_n of_o in_o his_o understanding_n before_o and_o that_o which_o he_o deliver_n with_o his_o tongue_n be_v the_o same_o which_o be_v before_o in_o his_o understanding_n in_o the_o womb_n when_o it_o be_v in_o the_o understanding_n in_o its_o birth_n when_o it_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o mouth_n it_o have_v a_o internal_a be_v in_o the_o soul_n a_o external_a be_v in_o the_o voice_n now_o word_n be_v produce_v two_o way_n either_o by_o voice_n or_o by_o the_o hand_n by_o the_o mouth_n or_o the_o pen_n this_o philosophy_n we_o must_v needs_o apprehend_v after_o our_o weak_a manner_n to_o be_v true_a true_a concern_v god_n for_o we_o can_v think_v of_o god_n as_o we_o ought_v but_o we_o must_v think_v that_o he_o do_v actual_o know_v his_o own_o infinite_a excellencye_n and_o all_o whatsoever_o he_o intend_v to_o do_v or_o do_v in_o heaven_n or_o earth_n this_o knowledge_n be_v 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well_o be_v bear_v who_o be_v never_o conceive_v we_o may_v discern_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n show_v we_o all_o those_o way_n of_o god_n speak_v outward_o mat._n 3._o and_o the_o last_o lo_o a_o voice_n from_o heaven_n say_v this_o be_v my_o belove_a son_n in_o who_o i_o be_o well_o please_v so_o rom._n 2.15_o which_o show_v the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n write_v in_o their_o heart_n there_o be_v a_o expression_n by_o writing_n and_o rom._n 1.19_o 20._o for_o god_n have_v show_v it_o unto_o they_o for_o the_o invisible_a thing_n from_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v clear_o see_v be_v understand_v by_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v make_v there_o we_o see_v a_o writing_n in_o the_o creature_n and_o that_o write_v by_o god_n for_o say_v the_o text_n god_n have_v show_v it_o unto_o they_o and_o for_o god_n internal_a word_n psal._n 2.7_o the_o lord_n have_v say_v unto_o i_o thou_o be_v my_o son_n this_o day_n have_v i_o beget_v thou_o here_o be_v a_o word_n speak_v internal_o by_o 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limitation_n if_o they_o can_v they_o will_v but_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v among_o we_o which_o have_v vestigia_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o footstep_n of_o god_n do_v teach_v we_o this_o and_o therefore_o by_o reason_n we_o ought_v to_o think_v so_o of_o god_n this_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o first_o conclusion_n that_o there_o be_v diverse_a person_n in_o the_o god_n head_n to_o wit_v one_o person_n generate_a or_o produce_v and_o another_o generate_v or_o produce_v sect._n 8._o conclusion_n the_o second_o conclusion_n which_o vasques_n charge_n raymund_n lul_n with_o be_v that_o he_o will_v prove_v by_o reason_n that_o there_o be_v three_o person_n which_o be_v in_o his_o second_o chapter_n of_o his_o 132._o disp._n where_o before_o he_o produce_v raymund_n argument_n i_o be_o persuade_v true_o according_a to_o these_o book_n he_o read_v of_o he_o and_o he_o give_v we_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o what_o he_o produce_v out_o of_o lul_n i_o will_v not_o tire_v the_o reader_n with_o what_o one_o or_o the_o other_o speak_v there_o because_o i_o build_v not_o upon_o those_o ground_n express_v in_o that_o chap._n but_o upon_o other_o which_o i_o shall_v produce_v out_o of_o raymund_n lul_n in_o those_o book_n i_o have_v of_o he_o trinity_n it_o be_v grant_v by_o all_o the_o school_n and_o all_o that_o have_v write_v any_o theology_n whether_o out_o of_o scripture_n or_o reason_n that_o god_n be_v infinite_a and_o without_o composition_n most_o single_a and_o one_o that_o in_o he_o not_o as_o a_o accident_n be_v in_o a_o subject_n but_o modo_fw-la eminentiori_fw-la after_o some_o divine_a manner_n transcend_v our_o capacity_n uni●y_n be_v both_o understanding_n and_o will_n these_o be_v in_o he_o or_o rather_o be_v himself_o must_v be_v infinite_a this_o be_v the_o first_o foundation_n upon_o which_o i_o build_v and_o it_o be_v a_o rock_n which_o hitherto_o have_v be_v shake_v with_o no_o wind_n of_o opposition_n the_o second_o be_v like_a unto_o it_o that_o since_o 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there_o their_o actual_a understanding_n be_v a_o act_n that_o word_n or_o image_n or_o character_n which_o be_v produce_v by_o that_o act_n be_v another_o intentional_a accident_n but_o in_o god_n it_o can_v be_v so_o he_o have_v no_o composition_n he_o be_v make_v up_o of_o nothing_o but_o be_v pure_o himself_n his_o act_n of_o understanding_n be_v substantial_a his_o word_n be_v substantial_a all_o the_o same_o with_o himself_o all_o divine_a all_o god_n himself_o therefore_o this_o product_n of_o this_o act_n of_o his_o understanding_n must_v be_v god_n god_n of_o god_n yet_o another_o person_n the_o same_o person_n can_v be_v the_o producer_n and_o the_o produce_v nor_o this_o produce_v be_v other_o than_o the_o same_o essence_n with_o the_o producer_n for_o it_o must_v be_v infinite_a have_v all_o the_o attribute_n the_o producer_n have_v or_o else_o it_o be_v not_o a_o complete_a understanding_n it_o will_v be_v short_a in_o somewhat_o nay_o i_o remember_v lul_n where_o before_o cite_v say_v because_o god_n be_v one_o and_o every_o form_n as_o he_o call_v they_o must_v be_v operative_a even_o his_o unitas_fw-la must_v be_v communicate_v and_o unio_fw-la must_v have_v unite_v he_o mean_n unif●cere_a must_v make_v one_o as_o well_o as_o be_v one_o but_o of_o this_o more_o hereafter_o but_o if_o it_o have_v all_o it_o must_v have_v the_o deity_n which_o in_o essence_n can_v be_v but_o one_o thus_o we_o may_v conceive_v the_o production_n which_o be_v before_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o st._n john_n the_o character_n or_o express_a image_n of_o his_o person_n as_o st._n paul_n heb._n 1.3_o for_o nothing_o can_v be_v a_o more_o express_a image_n of_o another_o than_o that_o which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o it_o for_o that_o if_o it_o be_v a_o true_a word_n full_o expresse_n the_o be_v of_o it_o s●ar_n and_o hitherto_o i_o think_v i_o have_v show_v the_o
this_o internal_a word_n the_o second_o the_o word_n that_o be_v speak_v the_o three_o this_o infinite_a love_n joy_n delight_n comfort_n that_o these_o two_o have_v one_o in_o another_o more_o can_v be_v imagine_v because_o we_o can_v find_v but_o two_o spiritual_a faculty_n in_o the_o divine_a essence_n by_o which_o it_o can_v produce_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v understanding_n and_o will_n and_o in_o this_o notion_n they_o have_v both_o a_o infinite_a production_n which_o be_v the_o further_a any_o operation_n can_v extend_v itself_o and_o therefore_o though_o consequent_a production_n of_o creation_n may_v be_v like_o spark_n of_o the_o same_o fire_n afterward_o produce_v to_o give_v god_n a_o external_a glory_n yet_o no_o other_o internal_a operation_n which_o be_v infinite_a but_o these_o two_o and_o now_o i_o may_v apply_v myself_o to_o the_o three_o proposition_n that_o these_o three_o person_n be_v the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n sect._n 13._o first_o for_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n these_o two_o relative_n can_v be_v one_o without_o the_o other_o spirit_n and_o it_o be_v evident_a out_o of_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v that_o the_o producer_n and_o produce_v must_v be_v father_n and_o son_n for_o although_o perhaps_o we_o can_v proper_o say_v that_o when_o fire_n produce_v its_o like_a that_o product_n be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o fire_n nor_o perhaps_o when_o we_o see_v a_o plant_n or_o beast_n do_v it_o can_v we_o say_v that_o that_o product_n be_v a_o son_n yet_o when_o we_o see_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v rational_a do_v it_o we_o may_v most_o proper_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o producer_n son_n now_o that_o god_n be_v such_o can_v be_v no_o question_n therefore_o in_o this_o production_n there_o be_v a_o father_n and_o a_o son_n for_o god_n be_v most_o spiritual_a we_o must_v expect_v only_o a_o pure_a spiritual_a propagation_n which_o can_v be_v conceive_v no_o way_n so_o ●itly_o as_o by_o the_o understanding_n 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clear_a as_o the_o former_a that_o these_o person_n be_v the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n i_o think_v to_o have_v vindicate_v raymund_n lul_n from_o faber_n faventinus_n who_o be_v a_o scotist_n i_o think_v in_o his_o natural_a theology_n have_v write_v something_o various_a from_o vasques_n but_o he_o deserve_n pity_n have_v no_o knowledge_n of_o lul_n but_o by_o vasques_n and_o what_o be_v worse_o when_o vasques_n excuse_v lul_n from_o that_o opprobrious_a scandal_n of_o be_v a_o heretic_n he_o who_o know_v nothing_o of_o he_o but_o in_o vasques_n fall_v upon_o he_o with_o that_o foul_a and_o disgraceful_a term_n and_o endeavor_n not_o to_o answer_v vasques_n his_o vindication_n of_o he_o sect._n 14._o it_o may_v be_v just_o inquire_v now_o why_o we_o shall_v call_v these_o three_o person_n since_o they_o be_v not_o so_o term_v in_o scripture_n this_o question_n be_v debate_v by_o s._n augustine_n long_o ago_o august●ne_n in_o his_o 7._o book_n de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la 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