Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	church_n	father_n	time_n	1,745	5	3.2882	3	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A71056	An apology of the treatise De non temerandis ecclesiis against a treatie by an unknowne authour, written against it in some particulars / by Sir Henry Spelman Knight ; also his epistle to Richard Carew Esquire, of Anthony in Cornwall concerning tithes.	Spelman, Henry, Sir, 1564?-1641.	1646 (1646)	Wing S4917; ESTC R19621	39,391	64

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