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A81336 A collection of speeches made by Sir Edward Dering Knight and Baronet, in matter of religion. Some formerly printed, and divers more now added: all of them revised, for the vindication of his name, from weake and wilfull calumnie: and by the same Sir Edward Dering now subjected to publike view and censure, upon the urgent importunity of many, both gentlemen and divines. Dering, Edward, Sir, 1598-1644. 1642 (1642) Wing D1104; Thomason E197_1; ESTC R212668 73,941 173

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