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a_o particular_a bishop_n he_o contradict_v cardinal_n bellarmin_n who_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n militante_fw-la cap._n 5._o allege_v this_o definition_n of_o s._n cyprian_a word_n by_o word_n and_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-la notis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cap._n 8._o he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v without_o bishop_n because_o s._n cypian_n say_v ecclesians_n esse_fw-la episcope_n adunatam_fw-la &_o episcopum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la in_o episcopo_fw-la that_o the_o church_n be_v unite_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bishop_n where_o first_o by_o the_o word_n sacerdoti_fw-la priest_n he_o understand_v a_o particular_a bishop_n not_o a_o priest_n or_o pastor_n indefinitelie_o as_o m._n nicholas_n say_v because_o in_o that_o place_n he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v without_o particular_a bishop_n secondelie_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o this_o 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allege_v s._n hierom_n l._n contra_fw-la luciferianos_fw-la who_o say_v ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la babet_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la the_o church_n be_v not_o or_o it_o be_v not_o a_o church_n which_o have_v not_o priest_n that_o be_v bishop_n and_o in_o his_o second_o tome_n lib._n unice_fw-la de_fw-la sacramento_n confirm_v cap._n 12._o §_o sextum_fw-la augmentum_fw-la he_o say_v out_o of_o s._n hierome_n contra_fw-la lutiferianos_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la unum_fw-la esse_fw-la episcopum_fw-la ne_fw-la si_fw-la multi_fw-la sine_fw-la pares_fw-la &_o non_fw-la ad_fw-la unum_fw-la summa_fw-la referatur_fw-la schismata_fw-la fiant_fw-la it_o be_v necessary_a that_o in_o every_o church_n there_o be_v one_o bishop_n lest_o if_o many_o be_v equal_a and_o the_o chief_a place_n or_o authorttie_v not_o give_v to_o one_o schism_n shall_v be_v and_o dare_v m._n nicholas_n gain_n say_v so_o learned_a a_o cardinal_n and_o he_o also_o a_o jesuite_n 5._o to_o cardinal_n bellarmin_n i_o shall_v add_v our_o learned_a countryman_n doctor_n stapleton_n whoin_v his_o five_o book_n de_fw-fr potestatis_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la subiecto_fw-la cap._n 7._o say_v non_fw-la nisi_fw-la propter_fw-la pastor_n &_o praeposiâ—os_n ecclesiae_fw-la nomine_fw-la vocari_fw-la debet_fw-la aliqua_fw-la multitudo_fw-la vnde_fw-la cyprianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o episcope_n &_o sanctus_n hieronymus_n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la sapienter_fw-la scripserunt_fw-la a_o multitude_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o church_n but_o only_o for_o the_o pastor_n and_o prelate_n whereupon_o it_o be_v true_o and_o wise_o write_v by_o s._n cyprian_n that_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o bishop_n and_o by_o s._n hierome_n that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n where_o there_o be_v no_o priest_n and_o again_o stapleton_n say_v that_o the_o word_n church_n in_o 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