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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15110	A discoverie of Brownisme: or, a brief declaration of some of the errors and abhominations daily practiced and increased among the English company of the seperation remayning for the present at Amsterdam in Holland. By Thomas White	White, Thomas, fl. 1605.	1605 (1605)	STC 25408; ESTC S101313	15,645	36

heads by wicked and vngodly excommunications Are they then the holy assembly of Saints marching in such a heauenly order after the Lamb whether soeuer hee goeth whereunto no vncleane thing entreth nor remaineth whether these accusations bee true or no let the sequele declare And first that Master Fr. Ih. hath vtterly disproued the maine drift of all his booke and so betrayed his owne cause As Christ alleaged against the Pharises the example of their owne Children that they might be their iudges so may I his owne writings against himselfe that they may be his iudge which thus I shew The drift of His booke is by the description of a true church to discouer the false This discription as oft elsewhere so also he hath Page 196. last answer to M. Iac viz. That a true visible Church of Christ is a company of faithfull people called out by the word of God and seperated from the world and the false waies thereof gathered and ioyned together in fellowship of the Gospell by a voluntary profession of the faith and obedience of Christ. And his meaning of this discription doth further appeare by cōparing it with the third false Doctrine alleadged by him Page 158. of the same booke as also with the 17. Art of ther confession where hee expoundes it by seperating his Church from vanitye Idolatrie dissolute life and all false workes of darkenes This discription so propounded and expounded he thus ouerthroweth page 47. of the same booke before cited where he affirmeth that the Israelites in Egipt were Gods Church prooues it by Exod. 4. 22. 23. euen then while they sinned with the Idols of Egipt alleadging Ezek. 20. If they committed Idolatrie with the Idols of Egipt how were they then a company of faithfull people seperated from all false wayes If he say this their sinne was not their generall estate as he answers in an other case to M. H. Page 49. The place quoted by himselfe out of Ezek. 20. shewes the contrary affirming none of them to haue for saken the Idols of Egipt If he say this their sin was not of obstinacie the same scripture sheweth that they were admōished v. 7. yet they rebelled against him v. 8. And as for the nature of their jdolatry it was heathenish will he then say that Idolaters in their generall estate with heathenish jdolatrie rebelling after admonition are such a faithfull people seperate frō all false waies as he describes a true Church to be If not how were they Gods Church To vse Tullies words testimonium tuum quod in aliena releue est hoc contrate graue c. Thine owne testimony which in an other case is of small weight this against thy selfe is of much moment And heere he must remēber that he describeth not a true Church what it ought to be but what it is if it bee a true Church as the drift of that place where this description is set down declares As that 1. It is for the clearing the question betwene them 2. For the discerning of the true church frō the false 3. Bids M. Iac compare their best asemblies with this description c. Otherwise his aduersary might haue answered that though the Churches of Englād agreed not with that descriptiō yet might they haue beene true Churches notwithstanding and he had writtē nothing to any purpose against him Moreouer in the answere to the preface of the same booke Sect. 6. M. Fr. Ih. thus speakes Any Church though truely constituted if they will rather abide in error then obey the voice of Christ are not true churches And yet the Iewes in Egipt rebelling after admonition are Gods church by his account how well these thinges hang together let the Reader judge In like māner M. Ih. denies not page 87. of the booke before cited that the Iewes in Christs time yea and after his death were true Churches which had despised admonition before Lu. 7. 30. Math. 23. 37. yet this which M. Iohns acknowledges M. H. Barrow calles blasphemy so well they agree together Is it possible so to ouerthrow the maine drift of his owne writings and perceiue it not Or is it not veryfied which the wise man speaketh The euill man is snared by the wickednes of his owne lippes And yet this booke he saith he did not make alone but consulted with others heerein and namely with Maister Ains-worth a man that hath turned his coate as oft as euer D. B. if not oftner whome hee tearmes approoued in Christ and Daniel Studly an elder of ther Church a man not alone for his filthinesse wlth his wiues Daughter but also for supporting of manifest shamefull vncleannes and cousning amongst them in others fitter for the stewes thē to be an elder in any christiā society No better is his dealing in condemning the Dutch French Churches for despising their admonition and yet acknowledge the Iewes in Christ time to be a true church dispising more admouition and that of greater sinnes then euer they admonished the Elders of these Churches of hée that wauereth in his owne testimony how shall his witnesse be receiued but he is not alone content to confute M. Ih. viz himselfe except he doe also by his description cut off from being true churches in their account all the churches of Christ that euer haue bin since the Apostles daies 2. now are yea and 3. thēselues which thus I pooue If no church that hath beene since the Apostles daies or now is that we reade of be seperate from al false waies in their accompt then by his description and in their account must they be no true churches but the former is true therefore the latter The proposition is vndeniable from his owne description The Assumption is as certaine as will appeare in that they account the very using of the Lords Prayer as a Prayer to be a false way which was vsed from the Apostles age as Tertullian saith Premissa legitima ordinaria oratione ius est super struendi extrinsecus petitiones c. The lawfull and ordinary prayer speaking of the Lordes prayer being premised c. 2. For the Churches that now are their dealing with the Dutch and French Churches declare it sufficiently howsoeuer they seeme to put difference betweene those churches in the Low Countries whome they haue admonished and those that they haue not yet to put the matter out of doubt let him tell us if they account it not Apostacy for one of them so much as once to heare the word preached in any congregation Dutch or French in all the Lowe Countries besides Or if he can let him name any one church on the face of the earth now that holdeth not false wayes yea euen in their constitution in their account Neyther shall he shift off the matter with his distinction of faultye and false worshippe for when hee hath put downe the difference whereby he distinguisheth the one from