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A68315 The examinations of Henry Barrowe Iohn Grenewood and Iohn Penrie, before the high commissioners, and Lordes of the Counsel. Penned by the prisoners themselues before their deathes Barrow, Henry, 1550?-1593.; Greenwood, John, d. 1593. aut; Penry, John, 1559-1593. aut 1596 (1596) STC 1519; ESTC S113168 32,537 34

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silent A. Wel wil yow lay your hand on the Bible and take an oath B. I vse to ioyne no creatures to the name of God in an oath A Neither shal yow this is but a custome commanded by law B. The law ought not to commannd a wicked custome A Why is it not lawful to lay your hand on a book B. Yes but not in an oath A. Wil yow lay your hand in my hand and sweare B. No. A. Wil yow lay your hand on y e table and sweare B. No. A. Wil yow hold vp your hand towards heauen and sweare B. That is not amisse but I wil vse my libertie A. Why yow hold it lawful to lay your hand on the table and sweare B. Yea so it be not commanded and made of necessitie A. Why the booke is y ● like it is nothing of the oath but a thing indifferent B. If it be nothing of the othe why doe yow so peremptorilie inioyne it and if it be indifferent as yow say it is then doe I wel in not vsing it A. Nay yow doe not wel in refusing it for therin yow shew yowr self disobedient to the higher powers set over yow by God B. Euen now yow said it was a thing indifferent if it be so ther is no power can bring me in bondage to my libertie A. Where finde yow that B. In S Paul 1. Cor. The Arch B. Archd. D r. Cussins al denied it I affirmed it a litle testament in greek and latine was brought me and a Bible I looked foe the place but could not finde it great sault was in my memorie ffor I looked in the 10. chapter neither ●●deed could I bethinke me where to finde it they so interrupted me A. Your de●initie is like yowr law B. The word of God is not the worse for my il memorie A. Yow speak not as yow thinck for yow are prowd B. I haue smal cause to be prowd of my memorie yow see y t default of it but the Apostle saith it Againe they al denyed it Yow then haue no cause to condemne my memorie seing yow al haue vtterly forgotten this sayeng Then repeated I the words Al thinges are lawful for me but I wil not be brought in bondage to my libertie Then they recited Rom. 14. and 1. Corint 8. al thinges are lawful for me but al thinges are not expedient I said I meant not that place A. I would like it wel if yow cited your place in Greek or Latine B. Why yow vnderstand English is not the word of God in English Then Cussin began to speak of indefinita propositio but whervpon I can not cal to remembranc ● I told him we were now about the new Testament it might be if he had asked me that question when I knew him in Cambridge I should then haue answered him he forthwith called to remembrance of what howse I was A. Were yow then of Cambridge B. Yea I knew yow there He said he was there before I was borne I said it might be Then he entred into discourse of his antiquititie Then he asked me if I had read books as Calvin Beza etc I answered that I had read more then ynough But yet I know not why I am emprisoned A. It is reported that yow come not to church are disobedeent to her maiestie and say that ther is not a true church in England what say yow haue yow at any time said thus B. These are reportes when yow produce yowr testimonie I wil answer A. But I wil better beleeue yow vpon yowr oath then them how say yow wil yow sweare B. I wil know what I sweare to before I sweare A. ffirst sweare and then if any thing be vnlawfully demaunded yow shal not answer B. I haue not learned so to sweare I wil first know and consider of the matter before I take an oath Thus many thinges being alleaged to and fro by vs the Arch B. commaunded Cussin to recorde that I refused to sweare vpon a book B. pea and set downe also that I wil not sweare thus at randon but first I wil know and consider of the thinges I sweare vnto whither they require an oath A Wel when were yow at church B. That is nothing to yow A. Yow are a scismatick a recusant a seditious person etc. with many such like B. Say what yow list of me I freelie forgiue yow A. I care not for yowr forgiuenes B. But if yow offend me yow ought to seek it while yow are in the way with me A. When were yow at church B. I haue answered that in an other place it belongeth not to yow A. Why are yow indited B. I am A. Yet belongeth it to ys I wil not onely medle with yow but arraigne yow as an heretick before me B. Yow 〈…〉 no more then God ●●● Erre I may but hereticke wil I never be A. Wil yow come to church hereafter B. ffuture thinges are in the Lords handes if I doe not yow haue a law A. Haue yow spoken these wordes of the church of England B. When yow produce your witnesse I wil answer A. But vpon your oath I wil beleeue yow B. But I wil not accuse my self Then began he againe to charge me with scisme sedition heres●e B. Yow are lawlesse I had rather yow produced yowr witnesse A. Of what occupation are yow B. A christian A. So are we al. B. I deny that A. But are yow a minister B. No. A. A scholemaister B. No. A. What then of no trade of life B. In your letter yow know my trade in the superscription A Yow are then a gentleman B. After the manner of our countrie a gentleman A. Serue yow any man B. No I am Gods freeman A. Haue yow landes B. No nor fees A. How liue yow B. By Gods goodnes and my freinds A. Haue yow a father aliue B. Yea. A. Wher dwelleth he in Norffolke B. Yea. A. Wher dwel yow in London B. No. A. Wel can yow finde sufficient suretie for your good behaviour B. Yea as sufficient as yow can take A. What yow cannot haue the Queene B. Neither can yow take her she is the iudge of her law yet for my good behauiour I suppose I could get her word A. Doth she know yow then B. I know her A. Els were it pitie of your life B. Not so A. Can yow haue any of these that came with yow to be bound for yow B. I know not I thinke I can A. What know yow them not B. I know one of them A. What is he B. A gentleman of Graies ynne A. What cal yow him B. Lacie A. But know yow what band yow should enter yow are bound hereby to frequent our churches B. I vnderstand yow of my good behauiour A. And in it is this conteyned and so yow had forseyted your band at the first B. Wel now I know yowr minde I wil enter no such bande A Then I wil send yow to prison Then
not an oath ther must great regard and reuerence be vsed in an oath and an oath for confirmation ought to be the ende of al strife My Lo. if I should erre and deliuer it vpon mine oath for truth it were a double sinne likewise if I should eyther not know not remember or not vtter the whole truth I were by such a rash oath forsworne But by Gods grace I wil answer nothing but the truth Cant. A Christian mans word ought to be as true as his oath we wil proceed with yow without your oath and taking a paper of Interr in his hand said what say yow to this Is it lawful to say the Pater noster publickly in the church or priuatly as a prayer or no B. I know not what yow meane by your Pater noster vnlesse peradventure that forme for prayer which our sauiour Christ taught his disciples commonly called the Lordes prayer Cant. I so meane Then commanded he the first question to be thus written Quest 1. Whither he thinketh the Lordes prayer may publickly in the Church or privatly be vsed as a prayer or no When I had expressed my minde the Arch B. commaunded it should be recorded but I desired the judges that I might with my owne hande write my owne answers which was graunted me My answer then to the first question was Ans It is to be vsed to that ende for which it was giuen by our sauiour Christ to his disciples as a sununarie ground-worke or foundation of al faithful prayers wherby to instruct and assure their consciēces that their petitions are according to the wil and glory of God But that these prescript wordes are i●io●ned or that Christ 〈…〉 in the scripture Moreouer I see not how it can be vsed as a prayer seing that our particuler wantes and present occasions and necessitie● are not therin expressed And therfore I thinke it not to be vsed as a prayer Heere the Arch B. cried out for breuitie and would not suffer me to answer any more questions at large Quest 2. Wither he thinketh that any Leitourgies or prescript formes of prayer may be imposed vpon the church and whither al read and stinted prayers be mere babling in Gods sight Ans I finde in the worde of God 〈◊〉 such authoritie giuen to any man neither such stinted leitourgies prescribed or vsed in the primitiue churches and therfore hold it high presumtion to impose any one deuised Apocrypha praier vpon the church Q. 3. Whither he thinketh that the common praiers commaunded by the publick authoritie of this land be idolatrous superstitious and popish A. I thinke that this book of common prayer publickly inioyned and receiued in the assemblies of this lande is wel nigh altogither idolatrous superstitious and popish Q. 4. Whither he thinketh that the Sacraments which are publikly administred in the church of England be true Sacramentes or no A. I thinke that the Sacramētes as they are ministred in these publike assemblies are not true Sacramentes and seale not the fauour and blessing of God vnto them Q. 5. Whither he thinketh that the lawes and gouerment of the church of England now by authoritie established be vnlawful and Antichristian or no A. Because the lawes decrees and canons of your church are so many and infinite I can not iudge of them al because I know not al but this I say that many of them as also your Ecclesiastical courtes and gouernours are vnlawful and Antichristian Q. 6. Whither he thinketh that such as haue bene baptised in the church of England since Queene Elisabethes reigne haue bene rightly baptised or ought to be baptised againe A. I thinke as before of yowr Sacramentes that they haue not bene rightly baptised according to the institution of Christ Yet that they need not neither ought to be baptised againe I doubt least the Arch B. hearing my answer of rebaptising caused it to be left out of the question and my answer taking that which might best serue their owne turne to bring vs into suspicion of error and hatred Herevnto many speeches arising of the true and false Sacramentes ministerie gouerment as also of the true and false church I shewed that the false church had also her Sacramentes ministery gouerment though not aright Then Judge Anderson caused this question to be moued to me Q 7. Whither the church of England as it standeth now established be the true established church of Christ and whither the people therin be the true and faithful people of God or no. A. I thinke that these parish assemblies as they stand generally in England are not the true established churches of Christ and that the people as they now stand in this disorder and confusion in them are not to be held the true and faithful people of Christ Here the Judge Anderson took exception as the B. of Lond. also at these wordes parish assemblies I answered the Judge that I could not for some weightie respectes spare him that word for I doubted not but that the Lord had many pretious and elect vessels among them whom he wil in his good time cal forth whom it became not me absolutely to iudge least I should enter into Gods seat Yet I could not in the meane time whiles they stand members of these assemblies count them faithful To the B. I said that when they should better consider of mine answer they should haue lesse cause to finde fault Much trouble we had before we could agree of the state and wordes of their questions with putting out and changing which discourses it is not my purpose here to set downe so much as the questions and answers agreed vpon and recorded although 〈◊〉 some causes knowne to my selfe and to some of their consciences which may hereafter be knowne to al the world I thought it not imper●●nent to insert this Q 8. Whither he thinketh the Queenes maiestie be supreme gouernour of the church and whither she may ma●e lawes for the church which are not contrary to the word of God or no A. I thinke the Queenes maiestie svpreme gouernour of the whole land and ouer the church also bodies and goods but I thinke that no Prince neither the whole world neither the chvrch it self may make any lawes for the church other then Christ hath already left in his worde Yet I thinke it the dutie of euery Christian and principally of the Prince to enquire out and re●●e the lawes of God and stir vp al their subiectes to more diligent and careful keeping of the same A● we had much a doe to come to the state of this question so the 〈◊〉 shewed themselues euil satisfied with my answer and said that the Papistes dealt more simply then I did and surely they very greevouslie interrupted me with slanders euil speeches and blasphemes during the time of my writing these answers especially the B of Lond. so that I was euen inforced sometime to turne vnto him and shew him of his shamelesse vntruthes and
God left for the ordering of his owne howse for as the Apostle saith Hebr. 3 3. he Yea and his ordinances are worthy of more honour then Moses his were And he that addeth vnto the wordes of this book that is to the true order of the church and pure worship of God conteyned therin the Lord God wil adde vnto him of the plagues that are written in this book saith the spirit of God Reuel 22 19. F. Yow allow of M. Luther I am sure what office had he P. He was first a moncke and so a member by his office of the kingdome of Antichrist euen a good while after the Lord had vsed him as a notable instrument to ouerthrow that kingdome afterward he was vtterly disgraded and depriued of al offices so that as the spirit of God saith Reu. 13. 17. he could neither buy nor sel by vertue of any libertie or freedome that he had within the kingdome of the Beast And by this meanes in the Lords great favour he caried not in this regarde any of the Beastes markes he was not of his name nor of the number of his name he denied himself to belong to that kingdome of Satan and that malignant church vtterly refused him to be any of her body and members Since his excommunication and degradation by the Romish church he nameth himself Ecclesiasten in a book of his so 〈…〉 that is a preacher of Christes blessed truth and gospel Now whither he preached by vertue of a lawful office whervnto he was called in the church of Christ or whither he taught b● vertue of his giftes and the opportunitie which he had to manifest the truth hauing neither time nor leisure nor yet thinking it needful it mar be to consider by what office he did it I know not of this I am assured that he was one of the famous and glorious witnesses of the Lo. Jesus raised vp to testifie on his behalfe against the abominations of the kingdome of Antichrist and I am assured that by his tongue and pen the Lo. appeared glorioussie in the power of his gospel to the consumption of that man of sin 2. Thes 2 8. Of his office I iudge the best as of a matter vnknowne vnto me that is I thinke him to haue had a pastoral office in the church of Wittemberg whither he had or not his example is no law for the church to walke by it is Chr. Jesus alone that we must heare and folow according to his wil and word must we frame our walking and if it be an Angel from heauen that wil draw vs to swarue from the same we dare not giue eare vnto him Gal. 1. 8. 9. F. And what office had yow in powr church which meet in woods and I know not where P. I haue no office in that pore congregation and as for our meetinges either in woods or any where els we haue the example of our sauiour Christ of his church and servantes in al ages for our warrant it is against our willes that we goe into woods or secret places as we are not ashamed of the gospel of Christ so our desire is to professe the same openly we are ready before men and Angels to shew and to justifie our meetings and our behauiour in them desiring earnestly that we may haue peace and queietnes to serue our God euen before al men that they may be witnesses of our vpright walking towards our God and al the world especially towards our Prince and countrie We know that meeting in woods in taues in mountaines etc. is a part of the crosse and basenes of the gospel wherat it is easy for the natural man to stumble but we are gladly partakers of this meane estate for the Lords sacred veritie and the question should not be so much where we meet as what we doe in our meetings whither our meetings and doings he warranted by the word or not and what inforced vs to meet in these places F. We wil speak of yr vnlawful assemblies afterwards but what caling haue yow to preach were yow neuer made minister according to the order of this land P. I might if I had bene willing haue bene made either Deacon or preist but I thanke the Lo. I euer disliked those popish orders and if I had taken them I would vtterly refuse them and not stand by them at any hand I haue taught publickly in the church of Scotland being thervnto desired earnestly and called by the order of that church charge I neuer had any and therfore I neuer bare office either there or in any other church F. Did not yow preach in these your secret meetings what warr it haue yow so to doe if yow haue no publick office in your church P. Whither I did or not I doe not tel yow for the present But this I say that if the same poore congregation desired to haue the vse of my smal giftes for the instructiō and consolatiō therof I would being thervnto prepared most willingly bestow my poore talēt to their mutual edification and mine F. And may yow teach in the church publickly hauing no publick office therin P. I may because I am a member therof and requested thervnto by the church and iudged to be indued in some measure with giftes meet for the handling of the Lordes sacred word The body of Christ that is euery particuler congregation of the church ought to haue the vse of al the giftes that are in any member therof and the member cannot deny vnto the body the vse of those graces wherwith it is furnished except it wil break the law●● and order of the body and become vnnatural vnto the same Rom. 12. 1. Cor. 12. F. Then euery one that wil may preach the word in your assemblie P. Not so for we hold it merely vnlawful yea tending to the Anabaptistical inversion of al good order in the church for any mā to intermedle with the Lords holy truth beyond the boundes of his giftes or pet for him that is indued with gifts to preach or teach in the church except he be desired and caled thervnto by the body F. But may any preach that hath not an office in the church so to doe P. Yea that he may and the word of God bindeth him to preach whosoever he be that intendeth to become a Pastor or Teacher in the church of Christ before he take his office vpon him and bindeth the church to take the trial of his giftes before they giue him his office least otherwise he should not be meet for it or at the least that handes should not be suddenly laid vpon him 1. Tim. 3 10. and 5 23. F. What office hath he al this while P. No other office then euery member of the body hath who are bound to haue their seueral operation in the body according to that measure of grace which they deriue from their head the Lo. Jesus by the power of his spirit working in them Rom.
The Examinations of Henry Barrowe John Grenewood and John Penrie before the high commissioners and Lordes of the Counsel Penned by the prisoners themselues before their deathes Ther is nothing couered that shal not be reuiled neither hid that shal not be knowen Luke 12. 2. ffor euery worke God himself wil bring Vnto iudgement with euery secret thing whither good or euil Eccles 2. 14. THe testimonie and sufferings of the prisoners whose examinations here ensue cannot easilie gentle reader be forgott●̄ of and whose harte is touched with care of religion and zeale of the truth How weightie the. causes were for which they suffered may appeare par●●ie by that which foloweth but Here hast thow the maner of the Prelates proceding against them and how they were convicted of theyr Brownisme ●onatisme ●na●●ptis●●ie S●hisme Heresie etc. wherwith they were charged and for which they were so 〈…〉 yeeres kept in miserable close prisons and at last bereaued of their liues Sure whosoeuer had bene the persons and whatsoeuer the er●ours it would wel ●aue become the Lord Arch ● of the church of England to haue better instructed and informed them by the ●●●rd of truth and w●●l●o●e doctrine before they had bene adiudged to prison and death ● Tim. 2 24 25. and 4 2. ●it 2 1. Or if Pauls counsel could not take effect yet Pilates example might haue stayed such courses who examined our Lord Christes accusers and found them false and neuer sent him to close prison for refusing to sweare to accuse him self Mat. 27. Luk. 23. Joh. 18. Neither yet did the late prelates in Q. Maries dayes vse ●ltogither such severitie for Bonnet him self with the other tyrants of that 〈…〉 e ●ad often conference and disputation with the Ma●●yrs and sought by scriptures to haue ouerthrowen them if they could Euil therfore haue our 〈◊〉 provided for their cause and credit so slightly to deale in matters of such moment and to proceed to such s●●ere to r●ures before more open and orderly conviction of the faultes and ercours Loe now al posterities shal see their practises and though they haue spilt the blood of those men which vered them so fore yet can they not bereaue the world of their testi●●●ie which ●y word and writing they haue left behinde them The lord giue these men if they belong vnto h●● to ad●●●t and see their dealinges and to remember the account which they ere long shalbe called vnto before him who is ready to iudge quick and dead The publishing of these thinges can not iustly be offensiue to any seyng 1. nothing 〈◊〉 is here set downe but that which was then demaunded and answered as neere as the prisoners could remember 2. And they which haue themselues set forth the examinations of 〈…〉 heretofore may not be greened now when theyr owne turne is come and their proceedings made knowne likewise they which doe wel need not shunne the light How ever it be the church of God I doubt not shal reap some profit hereby for which how 〈…〉 so euer it be let h●● haue the praise Amen Abrief of the examination of me Henry Barrowe the 19. of Nouember 1586. Before the Arch B. Arch D. and Dr. Cussins as neere as my memorie could cary being at Lambeth THis 19. being the Lords day betwene 9. and 10. oft the clock in the fore noone M●●ul and I went vnto the Clinke to visit M● Grenewood and the other brethren there emprisoned where we had not bene the space of one quarter of an howre but Mr. Shephe●d the keeper of the prison came vp rebuked Mr. Grenewood and stayed me saying he had commandement from his Lords grace so to doe I demanded a sight of his warrant he answered that he would doe it and I might afterward if I were wronged bring mine action So he locked me vp in prison and forthwith went to his Lords grace to Lambeth About one of the clock he returned and brought with him 2. pursuvantes I was forthwith put into a boat and caried to Lambeth By the way one of the pursuvants called Watson drew out of his boso●● a letter from the court of Lambeth vnto me saying how he had a long time sought me I told him his paynes deserved thanks neither at Gods handes nor mine I refused his letter and said that I obeyed neither it nor him neither would I read it shewing how I was vnder the arrest of the keeper of the Clinke who sate by me Wel we arrived at Lambeth wher after I had perused the B. his state I was brought into his presence chamber yet not vntil this Watson had prevented me and shewed his maister what had passed in the boat Arch B. Barrowe is your name Barrowe B. Yea. A. It is told me that yow refuse to receiue or obey our letter know yow what yow doe it is from the high commissioners and this man a pursuvant B. I refused to receive or obey that letter at that time A. Why so B. Because I was vnder arrest and imprisoned without warrant and against law and therfore now it was too late to bring the letter A. Why may not a Counsellor commit to prison by his bare commandement alledging how the Aldermen of London doe daily B. That is not the question what a counsellor may doe but whither this man may doe it without warrant by the law of the land pointing to the keeper of the Clinke A. Know yow the law of the land B. Very litle yet was I of Grayes Inne some yeares Then his two Doctours and he decided mine vnskilfulnes Let this passe I look for litle help by law against yow I pray yow why haue yow imprisoned me and after this manner sent for me A. That yow shal know vpon yowr oath wil now sweare B. I hold it lawful to sweare so it be done with due order and circumstances A. Reach a book hold it him B. What shal we doe with this A. Lay your hand vpon it man B. To what purpose A. To sweare B. I Vse to sweare by no bookes A. Yow shal not sweare by the book but by God oncly B. So I purpose when I sweare Cus Did yow neuer take an oath at an Assise before the Judges there B. No. Cus But would yow refuse there to lay yowr hand on a book and sweare B. Yea. C. Then would your testimonie not be taken A. Why man the book is no part of the oath it is but a cerimonie B. A needlesse and wicked ceremonie A. Why know yow what yow say know yow what book it is it is the Bible B. I wil sweare by no Bible C. Scismaticks are clamorous alwayes it is a perpetual note to know them by A. M r. D r. Cussins saith true such were the Donatistes alwayes in the counsels and such art thow and al other scismatiks such as thow art B. Say yowr pleasure God forgiue yow I am neither scismatike nor clamourous I answer but yowr demandes if yow wil I wil be
called he Watson the pursuvāt and O. Cussins a part into a windowe where he made a warrant to send me to prison B. ●ow shal not touch one haire of my head without the wil of my heauenly father A. Nay I wil doe this to rectifie yow B. Consider what yow doe yow shal one day answer it A. Yow wil not sweare yow wil not enter bond for your appearance B. I wil put in band for my baile in the prison and for my true imprisonment A. Nay that wil not serue the turne M r. Doctor enter these thinges Then Cussins wrote that I refused to sweare and enter bond ● I wil send some to yow to conferre A. B That were more requisite before my imprisonment So the Arch B. delivered me to the pursuvant to ●arie me to the 〈…〉 where I as yer 〈…〉 neither knowing the cause of my imprisonment neither haue I as yet heard from him I was no sooner out of his howse but I remembred the place in controversie it is written 1. Cor. 6. 12. Al thinges are lawful for me but al thinges are not profitable I may doe al thinges but I wil not be brought vnder the power of any thing The lord knoweth to deliver the god● out of t●ntation and to rese●●e the ●●●ust vnto the day of Judgement vnder punishment THe 27. of November 8. daies after I was commited by Cant. to the Gatehowse I was sent for by one of his servantes to make appearance before the high Commissioners at Lambeth whither he and my keepers man Nitholas caried me There I found a very great traine without but within a goodlie Synode of Bbs. Oeanes Civilians etc. beside such an apparance of wel-fedde silken Preistes as I suppose might wel haue b●seemed the ●aticaue where after to my no smal greif I had heard a scholemaister deny his maister Christ I was called CAnterburie with a grimme and an angrie countenance beholding me made discourse how I refused to sweare on a book etc. as fel out in our first meeting and demannded whither I were now better advised and would sweare I answered that I would not refuse to sweare vpon due occasion and circumstances C. Wil yow then now sweare B. I must first know to what C. So yow shal afterward B. I wil not sweare vnlesse I know before C. Wel I wil thus far satisfie your humour London begā to interrupt but Cant cut him of and produced a paper of obiections against me which he delivered to one Beadle to read It conteyned much matter and many suggestions against me disorderly framed according to the malitious humour of mine accuser as that I denyed God to haue a true church in England and to proue this the 4. principal causes framed in way of argumēt as the worship of God with vs is jdolatrie ergo no true church They haue an Antichristian and jdolatrous ministerie ergo no true church ffurther he saith that the reverend father in God my lords grace of Cant. and al the Bps. of the land are Antichristes ffurther he saith that al the ministers in the land are theeues and m●●therers and secret hypocrites and that al the preachers of the land are hirelinges That Mr. Wiggington and Cartwright straine at a gnat and swollow a camel ●●urther he 〈…〉 a● writers as ●a●vin Beza etc. and saith that al catechismes are idolatrous and not to be vsed The reasons to these were vntrulie and disorderley set downe accordingly in the bil which I cannot rehearse L. How say yow Mr. Deane of Pauls here is for yow yow haue written a catechisme Cant. This fellow dea●es indifferently he makes vs al alike Thus far haue I satisfied yow now yow know what yow shal sweare vnto how say yow wil yow sweare now Lond. My Lordes grace doth not shew this favour to many Can. ffetch a book Bar. It is needles C. Why wil yow not sweare now B. An oath is a matter of great importance and requireth great consideration But I wil answer yow truly Much of the matter of this bil is true but the forme is false C. Goe to sirra answer directlie wil yow sweare reach him a book B. Ther is more cause to sweare mine accuser I wil not sweare C. Where is his keeper yow shalnot prattle here Away with him clap him vp close close let no man come at him I wil make him tel an other tale per I haue done with him Ther was an article against me in the bil for saying that I thought Elders were Bisshops and Philip. 1. 1. produced here by I plainly discouer mine accuser to be Thornelie of Norwich with whom I had communication at Ware as I rode to London and never talked with any other about this matter THe effect and so neere as my fraile memorie could cary away the very wordes of such interrogatories and answers as were demāded of and made by me Henry Barrowe before certeyne Commissioners ther vnto especially appointed by her Maiestie namely the two L. cheef Justices the maister of the Rolles the L. cheef Baron and another Baron of the Exthequor I thinck Baron Gente togither with the Arch B. of Cant the B. of London the B. of Winchester certaine of their Chan●ellors and ●●uil Doctors with their Registers and Scribes The 24. of March I being brought before the Arch B of Cant he made knowne vnto me that they were authorised by her Maiestie to examine me vpon my oath vpon certaine interrogatories and therfore called for a booke ther was brought a great bible in folio faire bound which the Arch B. refused and called for an other which was held to me by 〈…〉 Bar. To what ende Cant. To sweare B. I haue not learned to sweare by any creatures Cant. This is the word of God the Bible B. I began to open the book and meant in deed to haue asked him if the Apocrypha scripture and notes which were in it were the word of God but Cant. belike suspecting some such matter would not suffer me to look into it to whom then I answered that that booke was not the eternal Word of God that eternal God himselfe by whom onely I must sweare and not by any bookes or Bibles Cant. So yow shal sweare by God Bar. To what purpose then is this booke vrged I may sweare by nothing besides him nor by nothing with him Winch. How proue yow that B. It is so commanded in the book of the law Deut. 6. and 10. Chapt. so expounded by sundrie of the prophets by Christ himselfe and his Apostles Cant. Wel wil yow sweare that yow wil answer nothing but the truth and the whole truth to such Interr as we shal demaund of yow B. I haue learned to know the matter before I either sweare or answer Cant. Set downe that he wil not sweare L. E. Justice Yow shal onely sweare to answer the truth if any vnlawful thing be demaunded of yow yow need not answere B. My Lord euery truth requireth