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A49577	Six conferences concerning the Eucharist wherein is shewed, that the doctrine of transubstantiation overthrows the proofs of Christian religion.	La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715.	1687 (1687)	Wing L430; ESTC R5182	76,714	124

SIX CONFERRENCES Concerning The Eucharist Novemb. 5. 1678. MR. A. Pulton Jesuit having in his Remarks published Novemb. 4. declared in efféct in P. 29 30. that the Principles of Philosophy which contradict the Doctrine of Transubstantiation are to be renounc'd and that Christians have the same ground to believe Transubstantiation as the Blessed Trinity and demanding How great the Confusion of Dr. T. will be at the Day of Judgment when he shall find that Te●● true The sid Dr. Tenison the Publisher of THIS BOOK does so far as concerns these Particulars refer Mr. Pulton to IT and for the rest of his Remarks he will in due time give a very just Answer to them Books lately printed for Richard Chiswell A Dissertation concerning the Government of the Ancient Church more particularly of the Encroachments of the Bishops of Rome upon other Sus. By WILLIAM CAVE D. D. Octavo An Answer to Mr. Serjeant's Sure Footing in Christianity concerning the Rule of Faith With some other Discourses By WILLIAM FALKNER D. D. 40. A Vindication of the Ordinations of the Church of England in Answer to a Paper written by one of the Church of Rome to prove the Nullity of our Orders By GILBERT BVRNET D. D. Octavo An Abridgment of the History of the Reformation of the Church of England By GILB BVRNET D. D. Octavo The APOLOGY of the Church of England and an Epistle to one Signior Scipio a Venetian Gentleman concerning the Council of Trent Written both in Latin by the Right Reverend Father in God JOHN JEWEL Lord Bishop of Salisbury Made English by a Person of Quality To which is added The Life of the said Bishop Collected and written by the same Hand Octavo The Life of WILLIAM BEDEL D. D. Bishop of Kilmore in Ireland Together with Certain Letters which passed betwixt him and James Waddesworth a late Pensioner of the Holy Inquisition of Sevil in Matter of Religion concerning the General Motives to the Roman Obedience Octavo The Decree made at ROME the Second of March 1679. condemning some Opinions of the Jesuits and other Casuists Quarto A Discourse concerning the Necessity of Reformation with respect to the Errors and Corruptions of the Church of Rome Quarto First and Second Parts A Discourse concerning the Celebration of Divine Service in an Unknown Tongue Quarto A Papist nor Misrepresented by Protestants Being a Reply to the Reflections upon the Answer to A Papist Misrepresented and Represented Quarto An Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England in the several Articles proposed by the late BISHOP of CONDOM in his Exposition of the Doctrine of the Catholick Church Quarto A Defence of the Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England against the Exceptions of Monsieur de M●a●● late Bishop of Condon and his Vindicator 40. A CATECHISM explaining the Doctrine and Practices of the Church of Rome With an Answer thereunto By a Protestant of the Church of England 80. A Papist Represented and not Misrepresented being an Answer to the First Second Fifth and Sixth Sheets of the Second Part of the Papist Misrepresented and Represented and for a further Vindication of the GATEGHISM truly representing the Doctrines and Practices of the Church of Rome Quarto The Lay-Christian's Obligation to read the Holy Scriptures Quarto The Plain Man's Reply to the Catholick Missionaries 240. An Answer to THREE PAPERS lately printed concerning the Authority of the Catholick Church in Matters of Faith and the Reformation of the Church of England Quarto A Vindication of the Answer to THREE PAPERS concerning the Unity and Authority of the Catholick Church and the Reformation of the Church of England Quarto THE Pillar and Ground of Truth A Treatise shewing that the Roman Church falsly claims to be That Church and the Pillar of That Truth mentioned by S. Paul in his first Epistle to Timothy Chap. 3. Vers 15. 4o. The Peoples Right to read the Holy Scripture Asserted 4o. A Short Summary of the principal Controversies between the Church of England and the Church of Rome being a Vindication of several Protestant Doctrines in Answer to a Late Pamphlet Intituled Protestancy destitute of Scripture Proofs 4o. Two Discourses Of Purgatory and Prayers for the Dead An Answer to a Lato Pamphlet Intituled The Judgment and Doctrine of the Clergy of the Church of England concerning one Special Branch of the King's Prerogative viz. In dispensing with the Penal Laws 4o. The Notes of the Church as laid down by Cardinal Bellarmin examined and confuted 4o. Preparation for Death Being a Letter sent to a young Gentlewoman in France in a dangerous Distemper of which she died The Difference between the Church of England and the Church of Rome in opposition to a late Book Intituled An Agreement between the Church of England and Church of Rome A PRIVATE FRATER to be used in Difficult Times A True Account of a Conference held about Religion at London Sept. 29 1687 between A. Pulton Jesuit and Tho. Tennison D. D. as also of that which led to it and followed after it 4o. The Vindication of A. Cressener Schoolmaster in Long-Acre from the Aspersions of A. Pulton Jesuit Schoolmaster in the Savoy together with some Account of his Discourse with Mr. Meredith A Discourse shewing that Protestants are on the safer Side notwithstanding the uncharitable Judgment of their Adversaries and that Their Religion is the surest Way to Heaven 4o. Six Conferences concerning the Eucharist wherein is shewed that the Doctrine of Transubstantiation overthrows the Proofs of Christian Religion A Discourse concerning the pretended Sacrament of Extreme Vnction with an account of the Occasions and Beginnings of it in the Western Church In Three Parts With a Letter to the Vindicator of the Bishop of Condom SIX CONFERENCES CONCERNING The Eucharist Wherein is shewed That the Doctrine of Transubstantiation overthrows the Proofs of Christian Religion Imprimatur Septemb. 12. 1687. Jo. BATTELY LONDON Printed for Richard Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-yard MDCLXXXVII The CONTENTS Of the Six Conferences concerning the EUCHARIST CONFERENCE I. THe First Proof That Transubstantiation absolutely destroys the certainty of our Senses which is the Foundation of the strongest Proofs of Christianity CONF. II. The Second Proof That Transubstantiation discrediting the Testimony of our Senses does absolutely overthrow the principal Reasons which confirm the Truth of Christian Religion CONF. III. Wherein are confirmed the two Proofs contained in the two preceding Discourses CONF. IV. The Third Proof That Transubstantiation establishes Scepticism in its full perfection and especially destroys the certainty of Demonstration CONF. V. Wherein is finally shew'd That Transubstantiation establishes Scepticism and absolutely destroys the certainty of First Principles CONF. VI. Wherein the Proofs contained in the foregoing Discourses are defended and the impossibility of using them against the Doctrine fo the Trinity is demonstrated SIX CONFERENCES Concerning the EUCHARIST CONFERENCE I. That Transubstantiation absolutely destroys the certainty of

yet I might find in their Writings wherewith to defend my self by what they answer to the direct Testimony of our Senses which your Authors have always objected I have enquired into what they have said on this Subject and found five different Solutions Some of them have absolutely denied without reserve that our Senses have any certainty Others acknowledg that these Faculties do not deceive us in the things comprehended in the order of Nature but they will not suffer us to consult them in Matters of Faith. Some allow them a certainty in Matters of Faith but say 't is a certainty inferior to that of Faith. Most of them assure us That the Senses do not perceive the Substance so that the Error wherein one falls by persuading one's self that the Eucharist is Bread and Wine is not in the Senses but in our Reason Others do in fine acknowledg that our Senses do well perceive the Substance but in an indirect manner and with great incertitude so that their report is not certain but in reference to the accidents I am well assured the two first Answers be false and should I not otherwise know it your second Reason would not permit me to doubt of it For in fine were our Senses without certainty whether in general or in particular in Matters of Faith the Proofs of Christian Religion would be but mere delusions as you sufficiently convinced me Yesterday The third of these Answers supposes a Thing which is false to wit That a Faculty which has certainty may ever have need of being corrected It supposes another which is very doubtful and in which our Divines are not agreed viz. That Faith has more certainty than the Testimony of our Senses Moreover granting all this to be true I know not whether one might make use of it against your Reasons You do not speak of the certainty which a Man that believes already may have of the Truths of Salvation but only of that which one might give an Infidel But the means to perswade an Infidel that the Senses may deceive must be by convincing him of the Divinity of our Religion which accuses the Senses of Infidelity And the way to convince him of the Divinity of this Religion must be by Reasons which suppose that these Faculties do not deceive us I do not then make any great reckoning of these three Answers and therefore I shall not oppose them against you But 't is not the same with the two last for if it be true that our Senses reach not so far as the Substance but perceive only the Accidents all that these Faculties learn us of the Eucharist is That this Sacrament still retains the Accidents of Bread and Wine which is a true Notion and contains nothing contrary to our belief Should we say moreover with those who make the second Answer That our Senses well perceive the Substance but yet in a manner indirect and subject to Error and Deceit one may truly say That Transubstantiation is contrary to the report of our Senses but not to this direct and certain report whence springs this firm perswasion called Experimental Knowledg It will be only contrary to this indirect and uncertain Report which can only establish a tottering Opinion which is almost as often false as true This being granted you cannot reestablish your Proofs unless you distinctly maintain these three things First That the Senses do perceive the very Substance it self either directly or indirectly however with certainty The second That this Certainty which our Senses give us touching the Substances is greater than that of the Facts whence are drawn the Proofs of Christianity The third That this Certainty is the ground of these Proofs and that they cannot subsist if our Senses may be deceived in the discerning of these kind of Objects ' I would be an easy matter for me said I to him to maintain this against all opposition But others (a) See the Treatise of the Authority of the Senses having already done it and this Discussion being likely to engage us into difficult Enquiries and the force of my Arguments not depending thereon I therefore am willing to wave that dispute and betake my self to what is so evident and undeniable as I am sure must satisfy you Will you not grant me Sir That we do every day discern one Substance from another Will you not grant me for Example that I now distinguish whatever is in this Chamber and that I can truly say This is a Table this is a Book this is a Bed this a Chair I do not say there 's certainty in these Judgments I make I do not determine which is the Faculty which makes me do it I only say I do do it Can you deny me this to be true or shall I set about the proving of it No answer'd he A Man must be void of Sense that requires it Will you then in the second place deny me pursued I that I make this judgment by some of the Faculties which God has given me I mean those Faculties purely natural which are common to all Men and perform their Functions without any supernatural assistance internal or external without any external Revelation without any inward illumination of the Spirit I am far from denying it answered he and I am perswaded there 's no Catholick that questions it This said I is enough and I need no more for the subsistence of my Proofs And to convince you of what I say I shall bring them to this Head I shall retrench whatever you dislike in them and instead of the Senses which trouble you I shall only speak of that natural Faculty which makes us distinguish one Substance from another You 'l see they will keep all their strength and be wholly sheltred from your Distinctions I begin with the second There being some necessity for it It consisted of these three Propositions 1. If Transubstantiation has place our Senses deceive us in the report they make of the Eucharist 2. If our Senses deceive us in the report which they make of the Eucharist they may as well deceive us in every thing else 3. If our Senses may deceive us in every thing the Proofs of Christianity are of no solidity This is the sum of my Second Proof which I offered you yesterday Now be pleas'd to observe how I further express it 1. If Transubstantiation has place the natural Faculty which God has given us whereby to distinguish one Substance from another this Faculty deceives us in the notice it gives us of the Eucharist 2. If the natural Faculty whereby we distinguish one Substance from another be mistaken on the Subject of the Eucharist nothing hinders but that it may be the fame on other Substances 3. If the natural Faculty whereby we discern the Substances has no certainty the Proofs for Christian Religion be of no weight You see Sir that forming my Argument in this manner your Distinctions are beside the purpose and